Who Is The Man Behind The Ground Zero Mosque?

Developer Of Community Center Has Lengthy Record, With Numerous Arrests Dating Back To 1990

NEW YORK (CBS 2) — As the Ground Zero mosque controversy continues to simmer, questions continue about the background of the man who wants to build the $100 million Islamic cultural and religious center.

Mosque developer Sharif El-Gamal has often been reluctant to answer questions.

After he won the right to tear down the 152-year-old building blocks from the site of the 9/11 attacks, El-Gamal got defensive when asked about the mosque by CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.

“It’s a community center, if you call it a community center, we would talk,” El-Gamal said.

Kramer reports the developer’s reluctance to talk may have been related to his prior run-ins with the law.

His most recent arrest was in 2005 for assault on a man he met while working as a waiter at Serafina Restaurant, who sublet an apartment from his brother. He reportedly punched the man, breaking his nose and cheekbone and spit on him.

El-Gamal first said he didn’t hit the man, but arrest documents obtained by CBS 2 showed he later conceded “his face could have run into my hand.”

Records showed El-Gamal also had trouble coming up with the $15,000 settlement reached in 2008, and had to pay interest . El-Gamal also has a number of other arrests on his record:

-In 1990, he was arrested in Nassau County and pled guilty to disorderly conduct.

-In 1992, he pled guilty in Nassau to DWI and paid a $350 fine.

-In 1993, he pled guilty in Nassau to attempted petit larceny and paid a $100 fine.

-In 1994, arrested for disorderly conduct in Manhattan.

-In 1998, there was another Manhattan disorderly conduct arrest.

-In 1999, yet another Manhattan disorderly conduct arrest.

A potential problem for the mosque developer is a deposition he gave in the assault case in October 2007. When asked if he was ever convicted or pled guilty to a crime, El-Gamal replied “no.”

Lately, he has been trying to resurrect his image, sitting down for a lengthy 60 Minutes interview with Scott Pelley.

When Pelley asked if it occurred to him that putting a project so close to Ground Zero would heighten tensions, El-Gamal replied “not at all.”

“I did not hold myself or my faith accountable for the tragedy,” El-Gamal said.

El-Gamal also owes over $227,000 in unpaid real estate taxes and a spokesman for the Department of Finance said interest will be added for each and every day its unpaid.

Another question surrounding the debate is whether the Muslim cleric of the mosque — Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf — knew about El-Gamal’s criminal background and unpaid taxes before partnering with him.

El-Gamal refused repeated requests from CBS 2 Monday to comment on the story.

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  • TxWrstmkr

    The guy borrowed the money from Ken JP Polak. What the guy doesn’t understand is that Ken is smart and put a triple net lease on him. So when he defaults Ken will get the place back and make a beer joint out of it so all can enjoy ! By the way I am of Czech decent.

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  • Rob

    “I did not hold myself or my faith accountable for the tragedy,” El-Gamal said.

    In other words, he thought only about himself.

  • Baracka

    Funny how CBS leaves out the fact that the “GOODWILL” tour (MONEY RAISING) is being paid for by US TAXPAYERS. This allahsucks mosque will never be built. No American steelworker will participate in it’s construction, and any foriegn non-union workers will never get close enough to work. That leaves the terrorists, and they only no how to destroy a building!

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  • Jim B.

    You have got to be s – – – ing me. Is this real? Where am I living, is this the USA?

    • Damon F.

      It’s a sad state of affairs my friend. From freedom to fascism, it’s not just a catchy book title. And you’ve got to have a fascist population to pull it off. Amazing, just a couple decades ago this was a freedom loving nation and now look where we are. A great many of the population have turned into a mass of squealing pigs and rabid dogs foaming at the mouth, willing to suppress the rights of those who don’t or won’t fit into their little box and slosh around in the mud with them.

  • Damon F.

    Historic landmark? This property, which has sat vacant the last nine years along with many other properties in this area, used to house a Burlington Coat Factory for crying out loud. It’s not even visible from ground zero. People have private property rights and religious freedom in what is supposed to be a free society. You people are suffering from a sickness, it’s called delusional fascist psychosis. Also known as useful idiocy. Get a grip and come back to humanity.

  • Matadir527

    BY ALL MEANS the mosque should be built, as tall and garish as the immams wish…and as soon as possible! In the proposed location, it will serve as an obvious and perpetual reminder of the “religion” whose tenets demanded the murder of thousands of innocent American “infidels”. No one visiting the area would be able to miss the reminder, and would be able to pause to contemplate the savagery and barbarity of the “peace-loving” muslims.
    And while they’re at it, let them also construct, just across the street from the mosque, a quaint little park, called, perhaps, “Sharì’a Plaza”, done not in pleasant green grass, fountains, and trees, but in sand and rocks, to remind the users of the mosque of the homeland desserts from which they came. And the plaza could include, at one end, a nice little “stoning pit”, for loving, tolerant men to use for ridding themselves of those pesky adulterous wives, and, at the other end, a stout pole embedded in the ground, for securing wives, daughters, sisters, etc. so that they may be more easily dispatched in “honor” killings, should they be accused of smiling, talking to, or otherwise “misbehaving” with men (who, of course, do NOT share in their guilt).
    To complete the area, I’d suggest a BBQ pork restaurant next door to the mosque, where diners could be served tasty dishes by waitresses in Hooters T-shirts, or less.

    • Mike Cope

      Beautifully said. You would think that those who stand to lose the most– women, gays, agnostics and non-believers, jews and civil libertarians of all stripes would not be so quick to defend this “Religion of Peace.” We ought to at least have sense enough to look to how Britain is losing it’s culture, as is the rest of Europe. I will not apologize for thinking that Western Culture is important, unique and inherently valuable. It is worth preserving. It is worth defending.

      • Mally Strong

        Google: Two canadiian moslem moderates speak out on ground zero mosque if you want t know what the moderate moslems of north america think but don’t say. And don’t fault the community too much. Moderates have had their throaats cut quietly on street corners for the last 25 year. Speaking out doesn’t go hand in hand with living a long and healthy life.

        What Mike Cope said, nail it. So: what Mike Cope said.

  • ronjamin

    Kill all these pricks.

  • Damon F.

    This is story continues it’s route of irresponsible reporting. This is not a mosque and the property, which is PRIVATE PROPERTY, is not part of ground zero. People should be ashamed.

    • Bryan Abbott

      It’s a Mosque Damon,
      The issue has nothing to do with Private Property. It is about common sense, respect and a concerted effort by Muslims to use the United States Constitution and our good will to strangle us with.

      Make no mistake about it, this is Islam, Islam is aggressive and your gut instincts are correct.

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  • Va Mom

    To Daniel Twelve, go back and finish 3rd grade.

  • Bayside Bas

    Considering his pedigree, he must be in line for the next Obama Czar vacancy

  • ANON

    Individuals, not religions, carry out inhuman acts!

    Islam is a religion of peace, accepted and practiced by more than 1.25 billion people worldwide. It is the fastest-growing religion in the world, and if it was what some critics claim, why should the people from all walks of life from around the world keep embracing Islam? Where is the sword now?

    In Islam, a person has the right to defend himself, his family, his country or his neighbor(s), which justifies the resistance being offered by the people of Afghanistan , Bosnia , Chechnya , Iraq , Kashmir and Palestine , to attacks on their soils by the so-called liberators, who are actually the occupiers.

    The Holy Qur’an clearly states that if a person saves one life, it’s as if he saved humanity, and if a person kills one human being, it’s as if he killed humanity.

    What is happening in the enslaved Muslim countries is a natural reaction to occupation, bombings, killing and terrorizing of innocent civilians (children, old men and women), rapes, in addition to looting of resources, national antiques and artifacts, above all destruction of property by the occupiers.

    Terror breeds terror!

    We assure those who bash Islam that if there was no occupation in this world by foreign invaders, there would be no resistance – the so-called terror.

    We would like those who criticize Islam to explain the following acts committed by the Christians on Jews, other Christians and Muslims alike, throughout history:

    – Hundreds of thousands of Muslim men, women and children killed by the crusaders, who were Christians.
    – Inquisition of Jews and Muslims from Spain by Queen Isabella, a Christian.
    – Millions of people killed by the European and American Christians during the two world wars.
    – Atrocities committed on millions of Jews and Christians by Adolph Hitler, a professed Christian.
    – Hundreds of thousands of Christians killed every year by the Irish Christians, including the British and the IRA, both Catholics and Protestants, during the past few centuries. Why are they not blamed to be “Christian Terrorists?”
    Both of them believe in Jesus Christ, who told them to turn the other cheek, and both of them believe in the same Lord, Who commanded that “Thou shall not kill.” Period.
    – Timothy McVeigh, who bombed the Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City , was a Catholic. Are all Catholics terrorists?

    Last but not least, the bombings, killings, rapings and lynchings of both American Indians and black slaves (Afro-Americans) during the past 200 years in the United States.

    What about them?

    Will those filled with hate for Islam blame Christianity for the above inhuman acts by Christians in various parts of the world since its inception?

    If not, then why are they blaming the religion of Islam for what is a natural reaction to occupation of Muslim countries by foreign invaders?

    Most importantly, these folks should know that the three great Abrahamic religions – Judaism, Christianity and Islam – have one common basis, and that is the unity of one God Almighty.

    “All men (and women) are created equal, and we all are one nation under Almighty God,” is a statement according to the Holy Qur’an and is very well elucidated in the U.S. Constitution.

    Lastly, yet importantly, as brothers in humanity, we recommend those filled with hate get an education in the history of Islam and Muslims, before they dare to write nasty letters full of personal, ingrain hate and vendetta.

    • Mike


    • Mike Cope

      I’m amazed by people who can’t tell the difference between something that happened 700 years ago and something that happened last Tuesday.

  • Mike

    Guy looks like a camel.

  • Ned Schnittt

    Why is the religion of peace always represented by people with anger issues?

  • Tavit

    Why not just declare the 152 year old building a historical landmark? No mosque at ground zero. Are there peaceful Muslims? Yes. Is Islam a religion of peace? NO. There are far too many crazies in the so-called religion of peace. Why are people on the left so quick to defend such an anti-woman, anti-human rights religion like Islam? They will bash Christians non-stop (I’m an agnostic) but militant Islam gets a pass from too many on the left.

    • Rowdy Boots

      Because the left, who are anti-war and anti-violence are the most violent and mean spirited creeps when they do not get their way.

      works for me.

      Rowdy Boots

  • Tony L

    So they need to get another developer to build this project. Is there a law on the books that a American citizen with this kind of record cannot be a developer? Or is this just another fishing expedition for things to stop the project by the crazy right wing nuts. Now they are actually checking the records of people working on this project. Will they also require the construction workers to have a clean record to work on building this project?

  • Robert

    Yes Fox News (News Corp) is in bed with this just like the Bush family is in bed with Bin Laden’s and the fact that the CIA trained Osama. All true. I can’t believe the morons here who gobble up the lies that mainstream media pushes on them, thinking that republicans are actually different than democrats… what a joke! They’re all the same criminals laughing to the bank while you become poorer. Don’t you understand that these box-cutter carrying cave-dwelling terrorists is just another boogeyman? You’re so brainwashed that you can’t go to any blogs anymore without seeing 85% of the material full of racist comments posts.

  • Amazing!

    It’s rare that you see such a collection of stupid all in the same place at the same time. You are all incredibly blessed.

  • Jim B.

    Well the mosque certainly fits this guys pattern of behavior. He has four convictions for disorderly conduct, an assault and attempted petty larceny. By forcing a mosque at ground zero he’s continuing his behavior of disorderly conduct and assault against New Yorkers. His history shows he doesn’t care about other people. The mosque is just the latest example.

  • JAILexchange

    This developer clearly has issues. Arrests for theft, DUI, assault, disorderly conduct. Not just one…but an entire rap sheet. We reward him by allowing him to build a mosque in the shadow of the WTC, even agreeing to give him land that belongs to taxpayers and subsidizing his efforts? Meanwhile, we barely have any rehab money for those who leave Riker’s Island Jail.

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  • 'muriken

    What is wrong with you people. This America. We have freedom of religion here, do we not? That is the beginning and end of this story. The fact that its evidently not is shameful.

    Dear constitution, apparently nobody cares about you anymore. Sheesh!

    I saw definitions earlier in this thread. Here’s one more.

    Irony: When you get attacked on 9/11 for being a free country and try to get the attackers back by no longer being free.

    Seriously, take a deep breath, read the constitution and stop being so crazy America.

    • 'muriken

      Typos-caught-and-fixed edit:

      What is wrong with you people? This is America. We have freedom of religion here, do we not? That should be the beginning and end of this story. The fact that its evidently not is shameful.

      Dear constitution, apparently nobody cares about you anymore. Sheesh!

      I saw definitions earlier in this thread. Here’s one more.

      Irony: When you get attacked on 9/11 for being a free country and try to get the attackers back by no longer being free.

      Seriously, take a deep breath, read the constitution and stop being so crazy America.

  • Just Tex

    El-Gamal looks to be nothing more than a hot headed violent thug, who has no respect for anyone or anything, including for our laws. His criminal past should have disqualified him from doing anything so near what most Americans consider to be the hallowed ground of the 9-11 attacks.

    Also, someone called “Daniel Twelve” stated (above):

    “Prince Al-Waleed of the Saudi Royal Family is both a major contributor to the Cordoba Project and the second largest shareholder of News Corp (parent company of NY Post, Fox News, and the Wall Street Journal) outside of the Murdoch family.”

    Well Daniel Twelve, I honestly don’t know if “Prince Al-Waleed of the Saudi Royal Family is” – “a major contributor to the Cordoba Project”.

    However, I do know that even if he is “the second largest shareholder of News Corp (parent company of NY Post, Fox News, and the Wall Street Journal)” there is no way to prevent anyone from buying stock, even a major share, in any publicly traded company.

    So Daniel Twelve, your attempts to smear Rupert Murdoch, the NY Post, Fox News, and the Wall Street Journal by an implied but distant association, is completely silly & utterly unfounded.

  • sharebear

    The little boy was walking down a path and he came across a rattlesnake. The rattlesnake was getting old. He asked, “Please little boy, can you take me to the top of the mountain? I hope to see the sunset one last time before I die.” The little boy answered “No Mr. Rattlesnake. If I pick you up, you’ll bite me and I’ll die.” The rattlesnake said, “No, I promise. I won’t bite you. Just please take me up to the mountain.” The little boy thought about it and finally picked up that rattlesnake and took it close to his chest and carried it up to the top of the mountain.

    They sat there and watched the sunset together. It was so beautiful. Then after sunset the rattlesnake turned to the little boy and asked, “Can I go home now? I am tired, and I am old.” The little boy picked up the rattlesnake and again took it to his chest and held it tightly and safely. He came all the way down the mountain holding the snake carefully and took it to his home to give him some food and a place to sleep. The next day the rattlesnake turned to the boy and asked, “Please little boy, will you take me back to my home now? It is time for me to leave this world, and I would like to be at my home now.” The little boy felt he had been safe all this time and the snake had kept his word, so he would take it home as asked.
    He carefully picked up the snake, took it close to his chest, and carried him back to the woods, to his home to die. Just before he laid the rattlesnake down, the rattlesnake turned and bit him in the chest. The little boy cried out and threw the snake upon the ground. “Mr. Snake, why did you do that? Now I will surely die!” The rattlesnake looked up at him and grinned, “You knew what I was when you picked me up.”

    • Tony L

      Why don’t you write a book? You sound like a good story writer. You may be able to make a living by writing fiction.

  • cbinflux

    In-your-face taqqiya, but I’m sure that it would be non-PC to call this thug a liar.

  • willyr

    I have known some Muslims, going back to my student days. I can honestly say that honesty and ethics are not strong points of their belief system.

    • cbinflux

      Indeed! One of the founders of the Cordoba project in Memphis’ Cordova area routinely talks about teabagging, etc. at work.

  • Patriot

    People, you are targeting the wrong man. The developer can be anybody. It’s the county planning commission you need to focus on. They issue the building permits etc. You fight the system by using the system. Organize a group, get an attorney, file injunctions, tie it up in court. It doesn’t take much funding to do that and it’s the legal way to get things done. Channel your aggression and use your American rights and civic duties to act legally. Besides, what American building contractor will actually take the contract? If they bring in foreigners, they must have passports and work visa’s.

    • Tony L

      Well then Muslims can do the same to tie up construction of Churchs and synagogues by filing injunctions all over Newyork. You think that’s the American way.

      • Patriot

        Using the law for ones advantage or disadvantage is still the legal way to pursue issues. It may not always be right but it’s better than killing each other.

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  • NancyP

    This bears repeating…”they are using our democracy against us!”

  • lbjack

    So, the Muslim who wants to build his Muslim center next to the site of Muslim ultra-violence has a record of violence. Should I be surprised?

  • BingoBango

    No Mosque, and no votes for any self serving politician that allows this victory mosque. I cal on all real American construction workers to not work on the victory mosque.

  • Bob

    tI was not enough for his religion to tear down the World Trade Center, now they want to tear down another building.

  • Mike Bloomberg

    Why don’t all of you people shut up? You don’t matter, get it?

  • john doe

    sultan……….a la weed………………..LOL

  • joe

    It’s a community center like the 92nd St Y and the YMCA? Fine, then let them hold gay conferences and have Rushdie speak there like the Y’s do.

  • Josh

    Could be worse…. he could be a priest for the big c.

  • BeenThere

    Stuczynski – I am starting to see a real logic problem in your brain. Most posts don’t subscribe to any kind of Al Qadeda type kill-people, burn it, blow-it-up, beliefs. Yet you make this ridiculous analogy. Most I have read, are just against it in moral correctness – not legal prohibition. In an Al Qaeda controlled society the promoter of such an idea for a church would be already beheaded in all probability. Your arguement is terribly weak and I hope your wife beats you.

    • Ken JP Stuczynski

      I have grave moral objections to many things in the Islamic World as well as the rest of the world. I certainly do not condone how Sharia is applied in Saudi Arabia. Do you know how it is applied in Britian?

      Knowledge is your friend … I know it’s mine.

      • JPsdaddy

        What broken logic is this? Sharia law is Sharia law. It doesnt matter how its currently being applied. It is a caste system where women and children are exploited. BOTTOM LINE. (See I can use fancy trolling tricks too). Eventually, as more and more people in a society subscribe to it, the more likely it will be fully implemented. Disagree? Look at the middle east. Just becuase a majority agrees doest make it right. Sharia law does NOT conform to the constitution. I will never figure out why apologists like yourself cannot see that no matter how accepting you are, they will never accept you. So dont think there is peace at the end of appeasement road. That is a mistake all the enemies of Islam and Sharia law have made. Yes, I have been there (middle east) many times. You have very little idea what you are speaking about. Eventually, without our ‘bigoted’ systems, your women (wife, daughter, mother) will become like cattle. Used to suit the purpose of men. You are a fool and I will waste no more time on you.

    • KJS

      ROFL @ wife beating his @$$

  • God

    For my ignorant son Ken Stuczynski, please read carefully,

    May I be with you my son. There is only one way in which you can win. This is the only time i will provide this answer, so read carefully and think.

    To win you must do one thing, indict those who are fraudulent in the court of opinion. NOT THE MEDIA.

    Here is how to do it my son, create a website. It’s goal is to indict the frauds in gov, media, business, and public sphere, then allow the public sphere to boil the indictment like a thermometer to a point, at that point the indictment forms a result; like PRISON SENTENCES for crimes against America (320 Million Residents, excluding the criminals from the count).

    Then after a certain amount of time the website indictment turns into a grand jury.

    It is time my son.

    My son the mosque man is an evil man be weary, be warned.

  • Ken JP Stuczynski

    “Burn it down” … “monument of evil” … “dirty Muslims”

    I have no problem with opposing the center. My wife opposes it. But she’s not a bigot. People have feelings about it and see it as insensitive, which is a legitimate viewpoint.

    But you can’t go around equating terrorism with a whole world faith or give the war cry for a culture war — which ironically is exactly what Al Qaeda intends and we trusting Osama more than Rauf by subscribing to their hateful world view. You can’t hide behind anecdotal personal experience or what the news feeds you on either side.

    Such things are bigotry. Period. That makes “us” as bad as the real “them” (those who subscribe to extreme Islamism, not Islam, and if you don’t know the difference, you should.

  • BeenThere

    Stuczynski – My opinion was not anti-arabic – It is anti muslim. If the fundamental doctrine, as laid out in the Koran, Hadiths, and Sunnahs, supports male dominance, eye-for-an-eye, death for adultery, as it does, it has a strong potential to reslult in terrible social consequences. Just look at the countries in which the government is run by Islamic power – there is no tolerance for other relilgions or beliefs – even non-belief. I happen to be agnostic, with strong tolerance for any religion or culture that is not based on dangerous doctrine. Yes, Muslims in the U.S. and many other countries are fairly peaceful, but only because they are not in control and have no choice. Let them get the upper hand with government/police power and you and I are in big, big trouble. Unless, of course, you are a practicing Muslim and happen to be male.

    • Ken JP Stuczynski

      My point was that the same sorts of arguments are being used against religion in general, Christianity in particular. It’s a concerning path, IMO.

    • Genghiz

      All that is said on Quran is also said on the Bible. But most Christians do not really follow the Bible now do they?
      In Bible;
      Adultery and having sexual conduct before marriage is forbidden — Ask yourself if you are an adulterer and if you had sex before you got married.
      Pork is also forbidden. But for some reason the Bible thumpers are extremely good pork eaters (see Joel Osteen’s video about pork on youtube)
      In Bible it talks specifically about eye for an eye.

      Strange huh?

      The so called goody goody Christians who are anti-Muslim, actually do not follow anything about their own religion, but know how to criticize others very well.

      Is that ignorance?
      Or hypocrisy
      Or both?

      I think it is both, but hypocrisy being the heavier side.

  • Rowwdy

    The Muslims are spreading out across this country like an invasion of locust. They want to put a mosques in Temecula, CA which is out in the middle of no where basically. NE San Diego County. Trust me, the ONLY Muslims there are transplants who have been sent there. They are fanning out across America strategically placing this so called mosques. In reality, they are only going to serve as hiding places and staging areas for Muslims. If people think different….they are d*mn fools.

  • notamuslim

    No mosque at ground zero. Don’t allow foreign money to buy this monument to evil on this important ground.

  • MayGodBeWithYou

    The next Sexcretary of State under Obama. Perfect record.

  • Racial Victim

    If I was this guy I would propose to build an unwanted building until I got the proper amount of money to move this proposed building to another site. The right amount of money will make this go away.


    The Cordoba house, as they are calling it, is symbolic of muslim conquest. That’s what they are saying, they have conquered us. They blew a space open and built a mosque on it. Only muslims can visit Mecca, so when they become tolerant, so will we. No churches or synagogues in their land!!!!!! WAKE UP PEOPLE.

    • Ken JP Stuczynski

      Cordoba, under Arabic control, was the center of learning in Europe for centuries, and a pluralistic scoiety where different faiths coexisted peacefully.

      But people will repeat anything that gets them stirred up …

      • Rafael

        You are a MORON!!!!

      • Loser

        As you are proving over and over…

      • Bill Terrence

        The cordoba mosque was builto on top of a Christian Church. of St Vincent.

    • Rowwdy

      You are exactly right KPIST. Cordoba is THEIR definition of “conquer”.

  • BeenThere

    I have lived and worked in Saudi for three different stretches over last 20 years. NO churches there and no open worship other than Islam. It is done in compounds or private residences, and then only in secret. I despise Islam – there now you can officially call me a bigot. However, I will continue to despise in belief that degrades women and other beliefs as does Islam. I strongly suggest that those of you that think otherwise, read the Koran – but also read and study the Hadiths and Sunnahs that expand on its philosophy. I have read them all twice and have discussed with Saudi friends, and they are Dangerous! Yes, I made Saudi friends that I will always remember fondly in many ways, until it came to religion. Then I was just another infidel. The Islamic beliefs in the middle east, and their acquisition of Nukes, is the most dangerous threat to mankind’s survival, not global warming.

    • Ken JP Stuczynski

      So … you know SAUDI culture and how THEY interpret their faith as a Quasi-Theocratic Monatchy. Fair enough. And you speak of Middle Eastern politics — which you should.

      So why are you supposing your experience represents the 78% of Muslims NOT Arabic? What about the other schools of Sharia NOT used in Saudi Arabia?

      Sorry, but what you are putting forth is like saying because you’re a Baptist, you have some idea that Christianity is more of the same, including the largest denomination, Roman Catholic (by itself demographically diverse in terms of political persuasion, scriptural interpretation, ethnic expression, etc.).

    • Tony L

      United States is not Saudi Arabia. You may be living under a different constitution then the rest of this nation.

  • fred paul

    burn it down, no more terror centers in America,, Islam is at war with America, burn it down,

  • WOE

    This is just Obama being OBAMA (Obama Being A Muslim Advocate).

  • Layba

    I am sorry, but he does NOT have the right to build on this site. We have reached the point when 10 percent of the population are demanding to run the rest of the country.

    This is offensive to the families and to most Americans. Build your “community center” a few blocks away from this site.

    • Ken JP Stuczynski

      LOL. It IS being built a few blocks away. Are you still stuck on “Ground Zero Mosque”? We’ve moved past “Victory Mosque” and are now into “Islamic Supremacy Mosque”. What’s next? “Baby-Eating Mosque”?

      BTW, many 9-11 victims and families support the project, as does the majority of people in Manhattan. Do the research, please.

      • Spinner

        And many 9/11 families oppose it. There. Research done. Now what? Doesn’t sway either way. Majority of Manhattanites support? The Quinnipiac University poll, released Thursday morning, found that 46 percent of Manhattanites support the 13-story mosque and community center, called Cordoba House. Thirty-six percent of Manhattan voters oppose the proposal and 18 percent are undecided. Not overwhelimng support if you ask me.

        New Yorkers as a whole weighed in against the mosque, with 52 percent opposing the plans and just 31 percent supporting the project. So, now where does your argument go? To the US as a whole?

      • Ken JP Stuczynski

        Spinner: You’re repeating what I already knew. I am not arguing against there being opposition. I am proving against the notion that 9-11 victims and the community oppose it wholesale.

      • Patriot

        Ken, you are a jerk. You cannot assume what others might have said especially the victims and families of 9/11. You are just stirring the pot you moron!

      • Bry Guy

        Upon doing the research Ken, and noting that the building they are using for this “Community Center” was struck by landing gear from one of the plnes that hit the WTC…I must refute your reassurance that it is being built a few blocks away from ground zero.

        Destruction and damage = GROUND ZERO

        Please study less political science and more math,


      • Bry Guy

        Also to rebuke your statement “BTW, many 9-11 victims and families support the project, as does the majority of people in Manhattan. Do the research, please.”……

        Those Americans are patriots who support the Constitution. Supporting the Constitution hardly proves that they support the actual center.

        You like to use these dumb analogies all the time…so hear ya go. I hate cigarettes. So since my mother smokes…I must hate her too.

        You logic sucks.


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