Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47

Says Many Gang Members Were Coming After His Family

UNIONDALE, N.Y. (CBS 2) — He was arrested for protecting his property and family.

But it’s how the Long Island man did it that police say crossed the line.

He got an AK-47 assault rifle, pulled the trigger and he ended up in jail, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.

George Grier said he had to use his rifle on Sunday night to stop what he thought was going to be an invasion of his Uniondale home by a gang he thought might have been the vicious “MS-13.” He said the whole deal happened as he was about to drive his cousin home.

“I went around and went into the house, ran upstairs and told my wife to call the police. I get the gun and I go outside and I come into the doorway and now, by this time, they are in the driveway, back here near the house. I tell them, you know, ‘Can you please leave?’ Grier said.

Grier said the five men dared him to use the gun; and that their shouts brought another larger group of gang members in front of his house.

“He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’ So when he says that, 20 others guys come rushing around the corner. And so I fired four warning shots into the grass,” Grier said.

Grier was later arrested. John Lewis is Grier’s attorney.

“What he’s initially charged with – A D felony reckless endangerment — requires a depraved indifference to human life, creating a risk that someone’s going to die. Shooting into a lawn doesn’t create a risk of anybody dying,” Lewis said.

Grier said he knew Nassau County Police employ the hi-tech “ShotSpotter” technology in his area and that the shooting would bring police in minutes. Cops told Guzman he was very cooperative.

Grier also said he was afraid the gang outside his house was the dreaded MS-13. And Nassau County Police Lt. Andrew Mulraine, head of the gang unit, said MS-13 has 2,000 members in the county.

“They’re probably the most organized. They almost have a military hierarchy within the gang, so they are the most organized gang we encounter on a daily basis,” Mulraine said.

You may think a person has the right to defend their home. But the law says you can only use physical force to deter physical force. Grier said he never saw anyone pull out a gun, so a court would have to decide on firing the gun.

Police determined Grier had the gun legally. He has no criminal record. And so he was not charged for the weapon.

That ShotSpotter technology pinpoints where a gun has been fired within 35 feet. Police said it also detected two other shootings in nearby Roosevelt that night.

  • Chisago Dan

    To the Nassau County Attorney – DROP THE CHARGES ON GEORGE GRIER – you have arrested the wrong man you idiots. You should be thanking George for not leaving you a bunch of bodies to deal with.. And George, remember, it’s better to be judged by 12, than carried by 6.

  • John

    Knowing the ignorance of the media, it probably wasn’t an AK-47. A semi-auto clone is more likely (yes they are very different). A WASR or Century maybe. Anyway, the Uniondale police should be ashamed of themselves. The man defended his life, the lives of his family, and his home. At the very least he deserves to be left in peace, not prosecuted.

    • http://wittywifesmarriageproject.wordpress.com wittywife

      Couldn’t agree more.

  • freedom

    NY is a failed state, can we give it back to England ?

  • bobby

    this dude is friekin awesome :D should leveled like all of dem wanna be’s



    • S. Gordon

      All it take for evil to flourish is for good men to do nothing. Many of you would have had Mr. Grier barricade himself unarmed inside his home. I imagine he was scared, but he was most definitely not a coward.

  • John

    “Stand Your Ground” , modeled after Fla’s own law, needs to be THE national standard.

  • Frank

    “Cap & Trade”

    Cap as many as the clip holds and trade it for another full clip.

  • john

    Why didn’t they arrest tha …holes on his property??—Also, when you call the cops–the call gets rerouted to New Mexico where they take the 911 call and unless you say someone has a gun and life is in danger–forget about any quick response. I think the guy was right–unless he invited those people to his home.

  • sbenard

    The man deserves a medal, not an arrest warrant!

  • Relocate him to Texas so he can be my neighbor


  • AVeteran

    The Police and Prosecutor need to be tried for malicious prosecution. What was the man supposed to do, tell them “please don’t try to kill me until the Police get here to see it”?
    If this goes to court the Prosecutor needs his/her license to practice law revoked and the Police need to be sued for violation of his rights.

  • Ian20

    The people decide how to defend themselves, not he cops. Police would prefer that this man wait until the killing of his family has begun before handling the situation. The system is broken when a hero is prosecuted instead of the guilty. This is what we’re talking about when you hear people complaining that we’re losing our freedoms.

  • Ross compton

    The homeowner should be given a civic award and the officer who arrested him ought be fired.



  • Some Guy

    The funny part is that none of you New York nancy boys will realize that one of the main reason street gangs exist is because the law-abiding have been stripped of their God given right to self-defense.

    But you can’t scare the housewives with HIGH POWERED ASSAULT RIFLES (not to be confused with low powered hug rifles)!

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  • Lee Reynolds

    The laws in NY need to change.

    This man is not criminal. He did nothing wrong. He did everything right. He is a hero and should be praised for taking personal responsibility for the safety of himself and his family.

  • Heath

    Thank God I live in the Republic of Texas where I could shoot them for just stepping onto my property which is why we do not have these issues.

  • Jimmy Ray

    So far, at the time of this writing, I agree with the sentiments expressed by every posting I see. If this man is imprisoned, then I want to see every cop who ever fired a ‘warning shot’ within the same jurisdiction in the very next cell, for this is clearly what Mr. Grier was doing. He didn’t even fire into the air, like some idiot movie star, heedless of where the projectiles may go; in my opinion he showed considerable restraint.

    Gun owners, realize this: your constitutionally promised freedom is effectively gone. Nevertheless, you may someday face a similar moment of truth. Determine your resolve now. If you refuse to cower like a good little slave, your criminal government WILL punish YOU, and your attackers WILL go free. Should your family be left to face them all ALONE when they return? Or will you bury as many as you can before you are clicking on empty chambers?

    Remember: Don’t fire until you see the whites of their eyes.



    • Erik

      Police should have exercised discretion and not arrested him. The same goes for prosecutors who would put this man in jail and deny his family their father just for defending his family from a gang attack. No one was hurt because this hero handled the situation effectively. Cops were simply wrong, and btw where were the cops when this gang was roaming the streets?

  • Snod

    This guy should have had the right to kill all that were threatening him and his family while they were on his property. L.A. and Chicago would be much better places if we actually hunted down and killed these violent gangs instead of letting them run the show. Yes for Texas where I can shoot your ass if you are on my property and posing a threat!

  • Mike

    His mistake was leaving his home. Had he stayed inside, armed, while calling the police, he may not have needed to fire the rifle, and he would not be going to jail.

    Staying INSIDE your home in the event of potential violent confrontation is the best course of action for two reasons: 1. You are safer inside the home with doors locked and in a secure room. 2. If attackers intrude into the home, you are more justified in using a firearm for self-defense, especially in the eyes of a jury.

    Don’t be a hero. Arm yourself, STAY INSIDE, lock your doors, and call the police. Let the professionals do the work.

    • ken

      OMG…that is just sad! hide in the house with the family while the thugs surround your house and come in from all sides. Where I live, it took the sheriff 47 minutes to respond to a distress call. He arrived lights, sirens and gun drawn. So, I guess you’re best to hide in your safe room and wet yourself for 47 minutes? No….you just shoot the thugs.

  • Gordon Brown

    The hispanics , blacks and muslims are well on their way to turning America into a third world toilet.

  • jess

    Holy fuk can CBS stop with the auto refresh?

    • kBK

      +1 LOL doofuses that never eat their own dogfood.

  • AJ

    When seconds count, cops are only minues away

  • burpin

    Always remember 1 in the head 2 in the chest. Make sure they are in the house….finish them off….there will never be a trial.

  • potvin

    Who are the police protecting and serving? The Gangs? There must be more to this story, this sounds to asinine to be real.

  • C.Cunningham

    First, Home owner should of shot as many gang bangers as possible. Second, I’d rather be judged by 12 than carried by 6. Third, don’t blame the police it is the way it is. They arrested and will let the jury decide.

  • Greg

    This is beyond absurd. The cops admit that there are 2,000 ruthless gang members in just that one county and that they’re so well organized they’re “military style”? If they know all that why weren’t these gang members stopped early on? How lax is law enforcement there that criminals felt comfortable nurturing a manned force that huge? Yet one man decides to defend himself by firing a few warning shots and he gets pinched? This is a matter of negligence, cowardice and indifference on the part of leadership in that county. It doesn’t get anymore complicated than that. If terrorists arrived with 2,000 members there’d be war. How come these gang members can rally an army that big?

  • vigilant jarhead

    When seconds count, the police will be there in minutes.

  • sbenard

    The same thing happened to my next-door neighbor while I was living in California. They arrested him and confiscated his guns. The drug dealer next door sent some goons to shoot at him on his own property. When he fired back, they arrested HIM! It cost him $15,000 in legal fees to get his guns back!

    What has happened to America that we no longer have the right to protect ourselves and our families? This is just a sickly, surreal nightmare!

    • Alfred Newman

      Let that be a lesson to you
      stay out of CA

  • RJD

    If he would have killed one, the rest would have split. Then he could drag the dead body into his house and put a knife in his hand. The law is then on his side.

  • steve

    How is the gang not leaving his property an act of agression. Didn’t he show extreme self-control in this matter? Now these thugs will loot his home while he is in jail. Somebody comes on my peoperty that wont leave and looks like ganbanger is shot on the spot.

  • NoPrisoners

    To effectively clean this up you’ve got to start by eliminating those who created the mess, then you can focus on those who have taken advantage of it…

    Progressives are an internal parasite that must be dealt with. They are the real danger here.

  • Raul G. Roman M.ed

    Long Live Terrorism in America..let all be initmidated and all out here warned that crime pays….by POLICE themselves…

  • P.O. Dcitizen

    I love how the news always gets it wrong. First off from the headline you would think it was illegal to have an AK-47 so that is why they specifically mention the gun, but no, you read the article and you realize the man legally owned the gun. Then you see the picture of 7 AK-47s and you think, gosh this guy must be some militia member, but yet the article again says he legally owns the gun so it was not confiscated so what is the reason to show a picture that doesn’t have anything to do with the story other than the type of gun used. Then to go on with this guy being arrested, the law says he is only allowed to use physical force to deter physical force so therefore he was unjustified in firing 4 warning shots into his lawn. I would have to say, I’d be firing shots also if 20 gang members were in my front yard threatening the lives of myself and my family, and for the record those shots wouldn’t have been in the lawn.

    • P.O. Dcitizen

      so I guess this guy should have gone to a fist fight with all 20 of these dirtbags. As a Police Officer I can only imagine someone higher up then the cop on the beat made this decision to have these charges filed. I have the option of firing a warning shot and I am justified in firing my firearm on duty for three reasons, to protect my life, the life of another, and to stop a fleeing felon if no other means of apprehension is available. If I fire in the defense of myself or another I have to be in fear for my life or the life of another, the person I am firing at has to have the intent and the ability to carry out the act. Based on what we have read, Mr. Grier was in fear for his life and the life of his family and these dirtbags had the intent and the means to carry out their threats. Why should Mr. Grier be punished for doing what any police officer would have done? This Police Department should be ashamed of themselves. What an embarrassment.

      • 12jc

        What did you expect from the police and news reporter? We are talking about New York here aren’t we?

  • Dan

    RELEASE THIS MAN NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! He is prtected y the 2nd Amendment AND he has the right to prtect his property and his family! RELEASE HIM NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • John Adams

    Wow this is ridiculous!!!!

    what is happening to this country that someone cant even protect their family without facing jailtime ?!

  • lkb

    “Disparity of force” applies. If there are twenty of them, that is a threat of death or “great bodily harm”, and in my state, that justifies use of deadly force. Perhaps he would have been legally better off shooting one of them?
    It’s an outrage that he is charged with anything, with a gang on his lawn threatening his family.

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  • AZ

    what happend to the gang that was at his house? did they shake the cops hands and say arrest that criminal? what a joke! come to AZ i will show you what a high powered AK47 will do to 20 people.

  • rondawg

    You are missing the big picture – the MS-13 gang members are most, if not all illegal aliens? Did the police arrest any of them? Check their immigration status? The police estimate 2,000 MS-13 members? Why are the still in the country? The police are cowards – that is why they don’t enforce immigration laws. The always arrest the individual with the least resistance. Gang member says he is going to kill my family I shoot to kill – right then and there.

  • dave

    Welcome to NY.
    if you have money, you can carry. if not,,,,,,Nassau county takes your NY State CCW and restricts it to a To and from range only. Funny that my florida non res. CCW lets me carry in 30 states, but not the one i live in.

    • Alfred Newman

      oooh! I want one!
      Same thing in Suffolk county

  • k

    You may think a person has the right to defend their home. But the law says you can only use physical force to deter physical force. Grier said he never saw anyone pull out a gun, so a court would have to decide on firing the gun.

    last i checked being outnumbered 20-1 is just as threatening as having a gun pulled on you and i think shooting the ground would count as a “deterrent”.. not to get in a ballistic debate but a 30 caliber round (7.62×39) moving at 2300 ft per second is not a weak round..

    • Robert

      here in florida, in addition to guns at home, we can get a license to carry sidearms in public, and if the perps are in your yard, or your home, and you are in fear for you, or your family’s life, a citizen is allowed to shoot to kill BY STATE LAW…

  • Josh

    So, if you’re going to fire a shot… make sure it is aimed at the gang members.

  • carl

    If he had the gun legally then it was’nt an ak47 probably a SKS 7.62×39. I hate media hype

    • bruzz

      semi-automatic ak style rifles are perfectly legal even in the people’s repbulic of ny. go into any gun shop on long island and they have at least one for sale.

  • Bob White

    as a texasan if they head toward your family the police might actually join the good guy in this deal. 2nd amendent is above the politicians pay grade

  • Who cares

    Remember when seconds count the police are only minuets away! Like the gang news conference in Chi town complaining about police harassment for there illegal actives.

  • amplitude jones

    a GANG of foreign criminals in the yard IS NEED TO USE FORCE. They are not girls scouts you know. Hang the people who arrested him.

  • Jack

    New York, New Jersey and Illinois – all bastions of left leaning liberal democrats. I’m glad I’m and Ohio buckeye. Tha castle doctrine is alive and well here as is CCW. Who would want to live in palces like those 3 states anyhow. I’m with the Texans and Wyomans – keep the riff reff out.

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