Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47

Says Many Gang Members Were Coming After His Family

UNIONDALE, N.Y. (CBS 2) — He was arrested for protecting his property and family.

But it’s how the Long Island man did it that police say crossed the line.

He got an AK-47 assault rifle, pulled the trigger and he ended up in jail, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.

George Grier said he had to use his rifle on Sunday night to stop what he thought was going to be an invasion of his Uniondale home by a gang he thought might have been the vicious “MS-13.” He said the whole deal happened as he was about to drive his cousin home.

“I went around and went into the house, ran upstairs and told my wife to call the police. I get the gun and I go outside and I come into the doorway and now, by this time, they are in the driveway, back here near the house. I tell them, you know, ‘Can you please leave?’ Grier said.

Grier said the five men dared him to use the gun; and that their shouts brought another larger group of gang members in front of his house.

“He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’ So when he says that, 20 others guys come rushing around the corner. And so I fired four warning shots into the grass,” Grier said.

Grier was later arrested. John Lewis is Grier’s attorney.

“What he’s initially charged with – A D felony reckless endangerment — requires a depraved indifference to human life, creating a risk that someone’s going to die. Shooting into a lawn doesn’t create a risk of anybody dying,” Lewis said.

Grier said he knew Nassau County Police employ the hi-tech “ShotSpotter” technology in his area and that the shooting would bring police in minutes. Cops told Guzman he was very cooperative.

Grier also said he was afraid the gang outside his house was the dreaded MS-13. And Nassau County Police Lt. Andrew Mulraine, head of the gang unit, said MS-13 has 2,000 members in the county.

“They’re probably the most organized. They almost have a military hierarchy within the gang, so they are the most organized gang we encounter on a daily basis,” Mulraine said.

You may think a person has the right to defend their home. But the law says you can only use physical force to deter physical force. Grier said he never saw anyone pull out a gun, so a court would have to decide on firing the gun.

Police determined Grier had the gun legally. He has no criminal record. And so he was not charged for the weapon.

That ShotSpotter technology pinpoints where a gun has been fired within 35 feet. Police said it also detected two other shootings in nearby Roosevelt that night.

  • Glad I'm a Texan

    Only in NY! The place is a turd hole! Bravo to the man taking care of his family!

  • lkj lk

    This is where the lawmakers who pass this sort of drivel need to be summarily rounded up and deported to Cuba.

    • FugginMorons

      Pass what drivel? The not everyone should own an illegal assault rifle?

      • CJ in FL

        Wow, Fuggin. I honestly don’t know where to begin. You, however, should begin by reading the article.

  • Dave

    Bravo Mr. Grier. It’s a disgrace how emasculated the northeast has become. I was
    stationed In Georgia. I can assure you Mr. Grier would have never been arrested down there.
    What other threat has to be there in addition to 20 latin gang bangers standing on your lawn yelling threats. I suppose that according to the NYC liberals, he should have waited until they killed his kids and raped his wife, and then used his animal-friendly mace.
    Its a shame there are not more Mr. Griers in our society.
    The American Man has become a rare species indeed.

  • Mandy

    Another violent tea-bagger shooting a gun at innocent democratic voters, amirite?

  • W Peters

    BTW the AK does not use the NATO 7.62×51 as a commenter mistakenly said. The M14 and M60 do use that round. The AK47 uses the 7.62×39. It is still a high powered round with lots of knockdown.

    And the AK47 is still manufactured.

    Factories where foreign AK47s (and ammo) are / were Manufactured
    US AK47 Manufacturers & Builders – Click Here

    * Poland
    State Armory in Radom
    Lucznik in Radom
    * East Germany/DDR
    Suhl factory
    Ernst Thaelmann VEB
    * RPC/China
    Norinco / North China Industries
    * Bulgaria
    * Romania
    Cugir Arsenal
    Sadu Arsenal
    * Russia
    Izhevsk factory
    Tula arsenal
    Polyany arsenal
    * Russian ammunition manufacturers
    Vympel Enterprise profile. = Golden Tiger
    The Tula Cartridge Works = Wolf
    Barnaul = Barnaul-RAM-Monarch – Bear
    Ulyanovsk =Ulyanovsk-Sapsan – Bear
    Novosibirsk LVE Plant Plc

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  • Dave

    Had this been Texas you would have quite a number of dead gang bangers on the lawn right now, and a bunch of grateful neighbors.

  • St Mike

    too bad this wasn’t in Texas…

  • Joule

    The purpose of the justice system is to provide (can anyone guess?) JUSTICE (how many of you got that right?) The purpose of the law is to provide a frame work for … (guess what?) JUSTICE. Within the legal system we have people who are given the title of “Judge” (not “Lawyer”). Their proper role is to use the law as a tool to provide …. JUSTICE. They are given the responsibility, trust and authority to judge the application of the law to administer justice. Justice does not serve the law rather the law serves Justice. The judges are not there to serve the law. They are there to serve Justice. When justice serves the law the legal system has become corrupted and serves only the lawyers and judges. An honorable judge would appologize to the victim and run the DA, lawyers and cops out of the court room. A brave one would fine them for contempt of court. Watch the news and see if if there are any honorable or brave judges in NY.

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  • Sick of gangsters

    I hate gangsters. I hope he got every one of them.

  • Fred D.

    Kev, that’s pretty damn funny…

    … and I’m Canadian.

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  • JW

    Exactly why I left LI all those years ago and moved to the one place in the country where its the LAW every HOH over 18 MUST have a GUN!!!!!!!

  • Robert

    here in florida, in addition to guns at home, we can get a license to carry sidearms in public, and if the perps are in your yard, or your home, and you are in fear for you, or your family’s life, a citizen is allowed to shoot to kill BY STATE LAW…

  • Nathan Lee

    It wasn’t an AK47. It was, more accurately, and AK-pattern semi-automatic rifle.

    The problem is the police. THEY KNOW MS-13 has 2000 members that they haven’t seem to been able to take down.

    They let the criminals run wild, yet go after a man who’s protecting his FAMILY and his LIFE.

    As this man sits in jail, his house and family are now vulnerable and defenseless.

    It doesn’t matter than the attackers didn’t officially pull a gun for all to see. There was a large group of them, and they were going to attack this family had he not fired some well placed warning shots.

  • Dutra

    Time for a beer summit.

  • Bob Lee

    The &*$(#&# cops are the ones that should be arrested for obstructing justice and providing aid and comfort to common criminals that should be shot on site. End of story.

  • JD

    I’d rather be tried by 12 then carried by 6!!!!

    • Bec


  • Geezer

    And people wonder why there is a movement to overthrow this government.

  • Sam Adams

    When seconds count, the police are just minutes away.

    If you don’t want to own a gun and don’t think that other homeowners should own guns. Take the first step. Put a sign in your yard that says “This home is unarmed”. Let me know how that works out for you.

  • Keith


    Thank God for the stand your ground law here

    Why would they charge him with reckless endangerment when he controlled the muzzle and fired into the ground when 20 men are coming at him threatening him and his family he told his wife to call 911 he also knew that by firing into the ground that would set off sensors in the area and bring the police even quicker because shots had been fired/ so the real question here is who was recklessly endangered? Could it have been the police who had to scramble out of their coffee shop with a hot cup of coffee and could have spilled on them selves and been burned. His mistake was firing warning shot when I was trained on the use of deadly force in the US Navy we were told never fire a warning shot, if you are going to use deadly force you shoot center body mass on as many targets as you have to stop the threat.

  • matt2717

    As long as New York keeps myopically electing liberals, you’re going to keep getting this kind of lunacy and stupidity from your government.

  • Max

    After the press goes away, watch what then happens to him and his family. It’s not a one-time event, it goes bad.

  • Osama Pajamas

    If some scxmbag has the right to threaten my life, then I have the right to believe him and to kill him. You stinking Democrats are poisoning America with your rotten ideas and your rotten pals — to find you defending gangsters is no surprise whatever.

  • Dano

    Years of democrat control have lead to stupidity in the laws.

  • Steve

    Better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6.

    Hopefully someone teaches his jury about their ability to nullify laws they find unjust. (Assuming this goes before a jury, he’ll likely take a plea deal)

  • the welder

    the pic shows a bunch of semi-autos…this guy had one…visual spin.

  • G. C. Scott

    Man, I wish I had me one of them AK-47s.

  • Gary

    Deprived of the most basic right, the right of self defense.

    They claim it is by law… if that is the law, then the law is an ass!

  • brinksmom

    We don’t waste bullets in Texas either. Why do people live in states that prosecute them for defending themselves and their family members? I would rather be judged by 12 than carried by six!

  • s from afton

    If you can read this and you don’t have an “assualt” weapon or a shotgun (depending on what’s legal in your jurisdiction) then you might be crazy. You don’t need to carry a gun around, but one of these days there will be no police around to stop the people who can’t read this post when they come rioting. Then what? Is your Obama sticker going to save you?

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  • Kevin

    Two words, Jury Trial and he’s off and in the clear.

  • steve

    Not to mention the sky spy / big brother cam in the air how fing unconstitutional is that thing?

  • Albee Darned

    The money quote, ““They’re probably the most organized. They almost have a military hierarchy within the gang, so they are the most organized gang we encounter on a daily basis,” Mulraine said.”. Great, they arrest Grier. Who is at the home protecting the family from the gang the police ‘encounter on a daily basis’?

  • Frank

    He should have shot the gang members!!!!!!

  • Honkeyman

    Why are those monkeys even IN this country?

  • ddsad

    He had to wait before they shot him or stabbed him a few times in one of his major arteries, THEN he could defend himself.

  • steve

    Of course the headline is never AK-47 save lives of innocent family.

  • Jerry

    He’s a HERO – set him free and buy him a box of ammo

  • Greg Steele

    This is why the rest of the states need to follow behind AZ and get these spics out of here 1 by 1. Call it the MS-13 vs. America…lets see who wins that battle.

    • s from afton

      Just because it seems like most hispanics are criminals, doesn’t mean that they are. Lost of hispanics have fought for your country. You might want to take back that slur, since a lot of hispanics would also like to see the M13 dead and are against illegal aliens too. Stick to the issue.


    Steve … You are an imposter…there are no conceal carry permits in Ca. for the average citizen and there are ppppplenty of bangers and the like in both OC and VETURA…..FOOL IMPOSTER !!!!!!

  • JohnnyBravo

    Why didn’t the cops arrest the thugs that were threatening Grier and his family? What did they want Grier to do, fight all 20 of them one by one? This isn’t a movie or a video game. This is real life. The cops should do their damn jobs and get these guys.

    One more thing, this has been going on BEFORE Obama got in. So look at your “buddies” Reagan, Bush and Bush. And stop blaming EVERYTHING on the guy who’s been in office for 1.75 years! Grow up.

  • Gottcha

    Keep a gun handy. If someone breaks in, He belongs to you. No Brainer.

  • bobby

    Like the PIGS say, “You can beat the rap, but you can’t beat the ride.” Odds are this poor guy who had the guts to defend himself (instead of hiding and waiting for the government thugs) will have to enter a guilty plea in order to avoid going broke defending himself in court.

  • S. Eriously

    Oh look, they changed the content of the article. The formerly “high-powered AK-47” has now become the dreaded “AK-47 assault rifle”. Just look at how that evil rifle assaulted those poor innocent gang members!

    Tell us, o intrepid CBS journalists, was it actually a select-fire automatic “assault” rifle, or a perfectly legal semi-auto AK-style rifle? Gee, you won’t tell us will you?

    “Spin”, lies… what’s the difference? (Hint: America is tired of your leftist B.S.)

  • greg

    Honey, gett the shotgun, better bring tne H and K, looks like theres a few of them this time.

  • Nancy

    Sure hope his family members know how to use whatever other guns he has in the house…’cause the gang members will be back, especially if he is still in jail. They will consider his home, family, etc. “easy pickings” without him.

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