Long Island Man Arrested For Defending Home With AK-47

Says Many Gang Members Were Coming After His Family

UNIONDALE, N.Y. (CBS 2) — He was arrested for protecting his property and family.

But it’s how the Long Island man did it that police say crossed the line.

He got an AK-47 assault rifle, pulled the trigger and he ended up in jail, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.

George Grier said he had to use his rifle on Sunday night to stop what he thought was going to be an invasion of his Uniondale home by a gang he thought might have been the vicious “MS-13.” He said the whole deal happened as he was about to drive his cousin home.

“I went around and went into the house, ran upstairs and told my wife to call the police. I get the gun and I go outside and I come into the doorway and now, by this time, they are in the driveway, back here near the house. I tell them, you know, ‘Can you please leave?’ Grier said.

Grier said the five men dared him to use the gun; and that their shouts brought another larger group of gang members in front of his house.

“He starts threatening my family, my life. ‘Oh you’re dead. I’m gonna kill your family and your babies. You’re dead.’ So when he says that, 20 others guys come rushing around the corner. And so I fired four warning shots into the grass,” Grier said.

Grier was later arrested. John Lewis is Grier’s attorney.

“What he’s initially charged with – A D felony reckless endangerment — requires a depraved indifference to human life, creating a risk that someone’s going to die. Shooting into a lawn doesn’t create a risk of anybody dying,” Lewis said.

Grier said he knew Nassau County Police employ the hi-tech “ShotSpotter” technology in his area and that the shooting would bring police in minutes. Cops told Guzman he was very cooperative.

Grier also said he was afraid the gang outside his house was the dreaded MS-13. And Nassau County Police Lt. Andrew Mulraine, head of the gang unit, said MS-13 has 2,000 members in the county.

“They’re probably the most organized. They almost have a military hierarchy within the gang, so they are the most organized gang we encounter on a daily basis,” Mulraine said.

You may think a person has the right to defend their home. But the law says you can only use physical force to deter physical force. Grier said he never saw anyone pull out a gun, so a court would have to decide on firing the gun.

Police determined Grier had the gun legally. He has no criminal record. And so he was not charged for the weapon.

That ShotSpotter technology pinpoints where a gun has been fired within 35 feet. Police said it also detected two other shootings in nearby Roosevelt that night.

  • Pkpost

    This guy absolutely did the right thing. If some group of animals threatened my family (including my baby) – it would be their lives. This man deserves a good attorney, if someone from the NRA is reading this – now would be a good time to offer your assistance.

  • JS

    I just hope that the dumb cops that arrested this poor guy are parked out front of his house. The gang memebers got away with threating him. Now they know he is unarmed and they will kill him and his family. Mayor Bloomberg should be so proud of this.

  • Crockett

    Wait until all the Latino Gangs see the anti-white hate mongering racist movie Machete. That will fire them up and there will be riots and wars.

  • http://americaswatchtower.com/2010/09/07/man-arrested-for-defending-his-family-with-an-ak-47/ Man arrested for defending his family with an AK-47 « America's Watchtower

    […] All the details of this story are not yet known, but if George Grier’s account of the story is accurate, I just don’t see where he wasn’t justified in using this […]

  • robert

    Out numberd by a thretening group. He used the right ROE

  • Doug

    Start taking pictures of these gang bangers.These are violent creatures that need to be identified .

  • David

    Would those cops have waited for someone to pull a gun out of a group of 20 thugs saying they are going to kill you? The cops are acting like jerks and I use to be one.

  • Crockett

    Uncle Davey would have been proud of this man and even the Indians won’t take NY back so forget about England.

  • manwaring

    If George Grier had been stopped for speeding, beaten bloody by the cops, and charged with carrying his gun in the trunk . . . the same morons who call him a hero would be cheering the cops and calling him a savage.

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  • marinelj

    I would rather be judged by 12 than Carried by 6

  • Your Mama

    Shoot to kill next time. No more wasting ammo. Eric Holder will say it’s about race and what people might think, because it’s alway race and race is what it’s about.

  • Will

    I would have done the same,laws or no laws.

  • welovetheUSA

    Whatever it takes to defend your family…a fancy gun or a cannon…….period.

  • max666

    Typical government reaction. Prosecute those who are being victimized by gangs and are brave enough to stand up to them. After all the government is just another bunch of thugs at this point, and I’m sure their main concern is that any resistance on the part of a citizen is crushed, rather than making any real effort to protect their herd of “cash cows” from depredation from other gangs. They probably secretly regret that MS-13 didn’t take care of the problem for them.

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  • doc

    I don’t care what color you are, if you want the right to own a gun and defend yourself and family, NEVER EVER VOTE FOR A DEMOCRAT.!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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  • Larry Anderson

    This man is a hero. He even held back and did not shoot them. A dozen plus gang bangers shouting threats in your yard is no small matter. The pigs seem to be the danger here. We need our guns to protect against criminals but also to withstand a government gone berserk.

    I think it’s time the blood of both patriots and government officials soils the ground red.

    The right to bare arms is not ab

  • Sad that NY Used to be a nice place

    What about “decession”? A tainted, lawless area should be ejected out of the union as a sovereign entity and becomes an occupied territory, i.e., no evil congressmen, only to be readmitted on several conditions, i.e., 99% of all occupants are legal citizens, the murders drop below 1 in 100,000; property rights are restored; etc.

  • Jim

    NY sucks!!!! you all need a few more liberal politicians. Your all sheep BAAAAAA. This would be a good campaign ad for Schumer haha you idiots will vote him right back in anyhow.

  • Pau

    Is Rice the DA? Where can I contribute to his defense?

  • Miguel

    For every innocent American murdered by criminal gangs who the liberals seem to love, there must be a liberal city, county, state or Congressional arrested or worse to their help to criminal gangs.

    Liberals must begin to pay for their harm to America!!

  • Chuck

    Due to MS-13 gang concentration, U.S. citizens in that area must prepare for civil war. This man should have defended his family from inside the structure; even then, one must have secure walls/barriers and fire escape airway devices / masks. Me, I’d get my family out of there until area sanitized of this disease. This is war, as I said before. MS-13 is an organized crime plague and a local count of 2000 soldiers constitutes an invasion (witness Mexico’s cancer). We readers need an address of a Church or other group providing help to this family.

  • JoeCollins

    He should be getting a civic award for being a local hero. He is a hero, to me.

  • adopt1

    His mistake was the warning shots – just shoot and reload until there is no movement! “Trespassers will be shot – Survivors will be riddled!” He’s a hero – now get your ass out of that stupid Blue state and move to Maine!

  • danpa

    and where is that STUPID COLLECTIONS OF IDIOTS, who call themselves the NATIONAL RIFLE ASSOCIATION…..????? if these idiots had half a freak’n brain, they’d be standing along side this guy with bodies, money and lawyers……. but that’ll NEVER HAPPEN, all they can think of is supporting HARRY REID and collecting money from their “Piped Piper Members”……


    This man is a true hero. He showed remarkable restraint in not smoking a full clip load into the gang members and if he had less than 20 reloading and getting the rest.

    If the rest of us would do this in our homes the gangs would get the message “DON’T MESS WITH US”

  • lilsongbird

    better to ask forgiveness than permission……

  • Ray

    To my fellow NRA and conservatives out there: If you really want to do something (besides vote) then don’t evade jury duty if you are called, and if you get a case like this, protect the good guy with “jury nullification.” DON’T DODGE JURY DUTY–get in there and protect common sense.

  • Atlas

    The savages are taking over and the police have their hands tied by the radical socialist liberal loons. Time to arm up and take our country back.

  • matthew

    A gang of dozens IS physical force. Use of a gun would be equivalent physical force when it is ONE man versus a gang. So the law is now used to hammer those who would stand against the gangs. This country is falling apart.

  • Black Sabbath

    This is what happens when Progressive Liberalism runs unchecked for sixty years.

  • JoeB

    A gun is needed to be seen before a gun is used in self defense? Silly! I guess a knife, sword, chainsaw or club wouldn’t apply? Perhaps the reporter would care to look up the legal principle of “disparity of force”, especially as it applies to a gang of 25 people attacking a single person? Or “furtive gesture”.

    Typical NYS legal decadence. This is why you have these gang problems in the first place.

  • gene

    It sounds to me like Mr. Grier needs to move his family to a state where he’s allowed to protect them. It’s sad that lawyers and politicians have made it impossible for New Yorkers to do so with their stupid little legal word games for determining when someone is allowed to use deadly force to defend themselves.

  • brad

    There is a simple solution to this man’s legal trouble and it involves each person reading this article: JURY NULLIFICATION. Each juror has the right to find the defendant not guilty of any charge to which they have a moral objection. You will not be told this by the judge. Take a look at: http://www.fija.org.

  • mauren

    What a farce to arrest a man for defending his wife,family and home!

  • JWnTX

    In Texas, the man would have been within his rights to kill all of them if they were on his property and threatening not just his family, but even his property. Of course, we don’t have a big problem with MS-13 down here. Just sayin’…

  • Jack

    Police normally will not do anything untill after a crime has been committed. He said/they said untill that happens. By then it is too late for the crime victim.

  • Dave

    I only regret that Mr. Grier didnt dump a couple of 30 rnd mags of 7.62mm FMJ into those animals.
    I envy you fellas in Texas and Arizona. Down there, folks still have common sense , and you would have had 20 dead gang members and Mr. Grier would have had the appreciation of the community. NYC is NOT America. Its a complete disgrace.

  • Jessica

    So this man was not in imminent danger because the gang didn’t have “weapons”. That makes resisting arrest legal right? There is no chance of danger…so I demand that anyone who has EVER been arrested for resisting arrest be let free and compensated.

  • Peter in Tampa, FL

    He had all the right to defend himself. The police are morons. But he should have known the consequences of stupid New York State laws and planned accordingly. I would have waited until one of them crossed the threshold of my door. Then fired :in fear for my life”. One to the head, one to the chest and one to the gut. The others would have fled in complete panic. They are not trained assault troops. They are punks waiting for the biggest dog among them to lead the way.

  • BikerBen

    The solution is simple. He can’t be convicted if one person on the jury finds him not guilty. It’s jury nullification. Judges increasingly disregard the law, why shouldn’t citizens. The U.S. Justice Department has, in effect, declared an end to the social compact. We all need to protect ourselves and our families and refuse to convict anyone who is doing so.

    • bren

      That is so right we can pay taxes but can’t defend our homes and family

  • TGood

    We had many cases in Texas where the gangs would enter the home, armed but if the homeowner wounded one of them, the perp, often illegal aliens ,would then sue them for bodily injury and be awarded millions. Texans got tired of the craziness ,demanded and got the Castle Law passed. Now, if a perp enters a home , he can and is often shot down . No more ambulance chasing lawyers to enrich the felon through lawsuits. If a homeowner feels threatened and in fear for their life, they can legally take action. Finally. One less problem.

  • Charles Clever

    What an impossible situation for one man to attempt what the entire police force can’t do. Let us say he killed a few creeps. The harassment by survivor gang members and their friends would not end and his entire family would have been snipered. Sometimes it’s better to turn the other cheek–no! both cheeks as you re-locate to a civilized area.

    • Vince

      Not an impossible situation at all. Why didn’t he just call the police and wait for them to arrive? Why did he have to go outside to confront them? Nothing complicated.

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  • Davd

    @XJRacerik: Texas did join the union willingly in 1845 because we were in massive debt from our war of Independence, and Mexico would have likely invaded Texas again, and won. Some of the conditions was that we could split into separate states, we could fly our flag as high as the united states flag (all other states must be below the Union Jack), and we could leave the union. However after the civil war it’s unlikely that would be allowed. Had Texas left the union and not joined the confederacy it might have stood a better shot.

  • Vince

    He should have stayed in his home with his weapon, called the police and WAITED until they arrived to clear out the gang. Very dumb to go outside and threaten them. Now he’s a marked man. If he would have stayed inside then he would have had every right to blow any one of them away if they tried to enter.

    • TomRoberts

      He was already ‘marked’. They came looking for him, didn’t you read the article?

  • M. Fernades

    This is Long Island, the place were black gunman Colin Ferguson went to kill unarmed whites. They elected a gun control nutjob as a result of that massacre.

    Long Islanders chose to remain unarmed and to be the victims of gangs. Of course this man was arrested. He chose to live there.

  • progressoverpeace

    “You may think a person has the right to defend their home. But the law says you can only use physical force to deter physical force. Grier said he never saw anyone pull out a gun, so a court would have to decide on firing the gun.”

    Er … when it’s one guy against a bunch of people – let alone 20! – who are threatening to kill him and his family, he is certainly within his rights of self-defense in firing the gun. Any judge who doesn’t understand that simple fact should be thrown off the bench.

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