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Mystery Deadline Does Not Deter Mosque Imam

Prez, Giuliani Weigh In As Fla. Pastor Wavers On Koran Burning

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Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf

Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, left, executive director of the Cordoba Initiative, greets an unidentified worshiper inside a Muharraq, Bahrain, mosque after leading midday prayers Friday, Aug. 20, 2010. (AP Photo/Hasan Jamali)

NEW YORK (CBS 2/AP) – On the eve of the ninth anniversary of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, there were renewed calls from President Barack Obama and former Mayor Rudy Giuliani for religious tolerance.

The Florida pastor who planned to burn copies of the Koran was reportedly on a flight to New York on Friday night.

Dr. K.A. Paul, a Christian evangelist who runs a ministry out of Houston, said he bought the ticket for Jones to fly out of Orlando and land around 10:15 p.m. in New York. Paul provided The Associated Press with a copy of the itinerary and flight confirmation number.

Paul said Jones was able to sneak out of his Gainesville church without the media noticing.

He wants to meet with the imam involved in the proposed Islamic cultural center near ground zero, reports CBS 2′s Sean Hennessey.

In addition, more than 2,000 people gathered at a candlelight vigil in New York on Friday night in support of religious freedom and the right to build the mosque.

Many in the crowd filling half of two blocks near the site of the proposed mosque held candles and waved American flags.

The vigil was sponsored by New York Neighbors for American Values, a coalition of 40 civic, religious and civil rights organizations.

Organizers said they held the vigil Friday night to avoid entangling the mosque controversy and the Sept. 11 commemoration, although activists on both sides of the debate have planned rallies.

Earlier Friday, the day before Korans were scheduled to be burned, the president weighed in — again.

“Part of my concern is to make sure we don’t have a whole bunch of folks all over the country thinking this is the best way to get attention,” Obama said.

As the attention-grabbing pastor continued to back away from his threat, the circus-like atmosphere surrounding this tiny church, the Koran, and the link to a controversial mosque planned near ground zero continued.

“Imam Feisal, the challenge is crystal clear,” Dr. Paul said.

On Friday, Dr. Paul joined Pastor Terry Jones of the Dove World Outreach Center and gave the spiritual leader of the mosque, Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf, a two-hour deadline to call and tell them, “If he has agreed to move the mosque from ground zero to another location,” Dr. Paul said.

After the deadline passed there was another news conference.

“We have not heard from the imam but we are very hopeful we will meet with him,” Jones said.

Jones said planned on heading to New York to meet with the mosque’s imam on Saturday, but it appears he left earlier.

“I am right now 100 percent sure the meeting will take place. I have no reason to believe that it will not,” Jones said.

That came as news to Rauf, who Friday said, “I am prepared to consider meeting with anyone who is seriously committed to pursuing peace. We have no such meeting planned at this time.”

Meanwhile, the Florida imam caught up in the deal making on Thursday said Jones had already agreed not to burn the Korans early Thursday, and then dragged the mosque into the mix to milk the attention.

“In his heart of hearts he knows this is very, very bad,” said Imam Muhammad Musri of the Islamic Society of Central Florida. “He knew that this is a good provocation tool so he played with it as far as he could.”

The mayor in the midst of it all nine years ago could only shake his head at what’s happening today.

“He should just act like a Christian minister and not be doing something that is highly offensive to millions and millions of Muslims,” Giuliani said.

Meanwhile, in Afghanistan, the start of the worst fears of General David Petraeus and Defense Secretary Robert Gates came to fruition. A demonstration at a NATO base against the proposed burning of Korans in Florida took place.

In Jalalabad, Afghanistan, demonstrators took to the streets enraged over the pastor’s plan.

The protest was just one of multiple violent protests that broke out in Afghanistan Friday morning — leaving at least 11 people hurt.

Jones’ responded to the reprisals in the Muslim World.

“I understand that it has revealed that there is a violent element of Islam that is much more violent than what we had anticipated,” Jones said.

In a press conference Friday morning, Obama reiterated that the United States was fighting against terrorists factions and not any religion.

“We are not at war against Islam,” Obama said.

The president also said he hopes Jones “prays on it and refrains from doing it,” referring to the pastor as “the individual down in Florida.”

Jones’ daughter, Emma, said in an interview with the German news website Spiegel Online that she begged him in an e-mail, “Papa, don’t do it,” but he didn’t answer. She said she hasn’t had contact him with since 2008, when he was ousted by members of a church he had founded in Cologne, Germany.

Meanwhile, A new poll showed support for an Islamic center near the World Trade Center site has grown slightly among New York City voters in the past month.

The Marist College survey released Friday showed about 41 percent of respondents favor the project, while 51 percent oppose it.

Support for the center is up from 34 percent in a poll released Aug. 10.

The number of those opposed did not change dramatically. It came down two points from 53 percent.

In the August poll, 13 percent of respondents said they were unsure. In Friday’s survey, 8 percent were unsure.

Marist questioned 616 New York City registered voters Sept. 2 through Tuesday. The poll had a plus or minus 4 percentage point margin of error.

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  • andy warhol

    they dont even have the money to build but politicians like bloomberg like to stir it up for his name.

  • crj

    As Americans we must, MUST, take a firm stand in favor of religious tolerance at any time that this concept is threatened; even, and especially, when the resulting freedom makes us uncomfortable. That said, it should be noted that Islam has a long history of building mosques in extremely provocative places: Dome of the Rock, Great Mosque of Cordoba and the Blue Mosque are a few such examples.

    The President should appeal to both the Florida Pastor and the Cordoba Initiative to consider the strong emotions that their desired actions might invoke and urge them to reconsider. He/we cannot/should not take legal action in either case. He/we can and should condemn both plans.

  • BD

    You all are religious freaks! IF there was one true god then why are there so many different religious and why is there never any peace? Most wars in this war over time are a due to religion in some way or the there. You all keep praying and worrying about the “day of reckoning” or whatever you believe and see where it gets you all. Every bible, Koran, book, or whatever else you want to call them is just a simple way to keep control in the world. They in reality are laws written to keep things from chaos! You all keep pumping this religion stuff up and who is right and wrong and it will never end.

    Back on subject, I do not think they should be building a Mosque anywhere near WTC with all the drama, because common sense would tell you the minute it happens the place will be vandalized and people harassed until they shut it down. Just think back to the LA riots and that was only over a police acquittal and not even a religion war.

  • L. Buczynski

    If everyone ignored Terry Jones, he would be forgotten in a day or two. Instead, everyone is giving hime exactly what he wants: attention.

  • pugphan

    God has a funny sense of humore, HE told us to love our enemies, and to pray
    for them that persecute us, then HE gave us loads of them to love. Christians are
    supposed to be known throught out the world for the love we have for our fellow man, even our enemies. Let GOD HIMSELF deal with them, when the time
    comes. Remember our Lords last words, “LOVE one another!”

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  • Sanskar

    If such a movement is carried out it will hurt the sentiments of the Muslims around the world. Protesting anger against Al Qaeda or Taliban would have been more logical.
    The involvement of the Christian Pastor as leader in this act will cause a general hatred among Muslim for Christians. And this religious war may spread from America to the rest of the Christian world.

    With Regards
    Sanskar
    http://enewsreport.blogspot.com

  • Liberal Jew

    Burning the Koran will cause Muslims to hate us and endanger our soldiers abroad? They could not have a deeper hatred for us already. When the World Trade Center fell, hoards of Muslims danced in the streets and on top of cars throughout the Middle East. A few radical extremists, you say. Then, there was the U.S.S. Cole, the U.S. Embassy in Tanzania, the October 31, 1999 Egyptian Airlines crash in Massachusetts, the Khobar Towers, Mogadishu, the first World Trade Center Attack in 1993, the 1995 bombing of Military Headquarters in Saudi Arabia, the plot to blow up N.Y.C. bridges and tunnels by Omar Abdel Rahman, the throwing of a handicapped American Citizen off the Archille Lauro cruise ship, Flight 103 over Lockerbie, the Iran Hostage situation, and a host of other Embassy bombings and Hijackings. Since 911, there have been numerous Muslim on American plots foiled, most recently the Time Square firecracker-propane bomb. Jews are slaughtered in Israel at the very same time as our President holds Arab-Israeli peace talks, and people are stoned on suspicion of practicing Christianity. Our soldiers are slaughtered by “insurgents.” Major Middle Eastern countries refuse to denounce—and often—condone these acts of terror. This is either some radical group, boy, or a total onslaught brought about by a religion perverted by its leaders, who, time and time, again fail to speak out against continued bloodshed. Burning Mosques might cause anti American sentiment? It seems to me there already is plenty of anti American sentiment on the part of the Muslim religion. However, an ill conceived and offensive thing burning Korans may be—and it is—let us not sensationalize it by mongering fear that it will harm our soldiers abroad. God knows, they are already in harm’s way and God knows Islam is apathetic to peacefulness

  • nathan

    I just wish all sides would leave the actual day Sept 11th for the families and their lost loved ones. Its a day of remembrance, not of protest. Oh and Dan Te, youve been reported again.

  • Mari

    @Zippy
    Right on!

  • Zippy

    Why not build an Interfaith Doughnut Shoppe on this site? All the world, every faith, can enjoy this fried treat as one. We can begin to heal our planet over a cup of joe & a sinker or two. Hatreds melt like sugar dissolving in the warmth of the holy brown elixir. A new found brotherhood will rise much like the dough of a fresh-baked roll. We are all but jimmies, festooned upon this great glazed sphere.

  • Slave of ALLAH

    MR. Terry come back to islam. AlLAH WILL FORGIVE YOU

  • Mohamed Zubairu

    Muslims pretend to be peaceful in the western world because they are in the minority but in their own countries, they do not tolerate any other religion at all. How many mosques exist in the so called holy land of Saudi Arabia? In fact, when an Arab decides to become a Christian or join any other religion, “fatwa” is issued against such a person to the effect that he be put to death. The case of Salman Rushdie of the Satanic Verses fame is an example. Many such summary executions have happened over history in Islamic lands and they still happen till date. Most Arab Christians (and there are many of them) have had to go on exile to other lands in order to preserve their lives.
    They have burned thousands of Bibles in Northern Nigeria in parts where they dominate. Once, when the late M.K.O. Abiola was alive, he confiscated a ship load of Bibles and emptied all of it in the sea. No one dares stand publicly to propagate another religion in an Islamic country.
    Talking about the intention to build an Islamic centre near ground zero, I wonder the level of affront that is being contemplated. A group of Islamic jihadists flew planes into the world trade centre and destroyed it along with thousands of lives (mostly American), and then barely nine years down the line another group of Islamic Jihadists want to build a mosque near the empty ground that used to hold the world trade centre. What an affront on democracy and freedom! I am amazed by the fact that America’s president Barak Hussein Obama sees nothing wrong in that but an illustration of freedom in America. Oh yes! Freedom to bomb the magnificent world trade centre and then turn up nine years later to build an Islamic centre near the place. It is not surprising that a growing number of Americans think that Obama is a covert Muslim.
    Jihad is a doctrine of Islam that encourages Muslims to both kill and get killed for Allah. That is the only reason why human beings would accept to strap bombs around themselves and then detonate it to get killed and kill others along – just for Allah.
    The western world is playing along the grand Jihadist intentions of Islam. Unknown to the west is the fact that when Islam gets enough population and influence in the west, they will unleash the venom of jihad and destroy the freedom that was the platform for their infiltration. I wish that the west will wise up to this grand plan.
    Islam is said to mean peace whereas, in history and to the present moment, it is the antithesis of what it claims to be. Islam has costed many American lives and will cost much more for as long as America keeps tolerating the infiltration. Time will tell, but I hope the reverse will happen.

    • S.B. Taylor

      If I choose to burn a bible, the “true” word of God or doubt the existence of Jesus, what happens? Very little! But if I choose to burn a koran or criticize the religion. my life is all of the sudden in danger. Don’t tell me it’s not a violent religion!!

  • MUHAMMAD

    IF WE DO RIGHT CALCULATINS, AND FROM THAT ALL HISTORY BOOKS, WE WILL SEE THAT CHRISTIANS ARE LEADING KILLERS IN THIS WORLD, THEY ARE LEADING IN MANY TIMES THEN ANY OTHER RELIGION. IF ANYONE GOOD IN MATHS PLEASE WELCOME, ANYWAY WE ARE AGAINST ANY RADICALS.

    • A Christian

      Anti-Christian bigotry.

    • Augustus

      never mind math you dunce what about english.

  • Syed

    Lets get togather and build the house of the creator of all creatures including all human being what ever faith they belong to and get slavations from all foolish contriversies,

  • haider

    Lets look back in history to the last book burning anyone remember? WWII by Adolf Hitler…good company your keeping Terry Jones! Terry Jones you are just a radical of a christian as the radical muslims

  • MUHAMMAD

    JESSS
    DO NOT REFLECT SAIDI AIRPORT PEOPLE TO ALL OF MUSLIMS, I WE REFLECT ETA [ CHRISTIANS ] TO ALL CHRISTIAN WILL IT BE RIGHT, OR IRA, HOW MANY PEOPLE HAVE THEY KILLED, EVEN THE TIME OF COLONISATION, WESTERN EUROPIANS KILLER HOW MANY MILLIONS IN ALGERIA, LIBYA, TUNISIA, EGYPT, ETC ETC, DID WE SAY ANY WHERE THAT CHRISTIANITY DID THAT… OPEN YOUR MIND NOW… TRY TO UNDERSTAND WHAT IS POLITICS, ECOMICS, RELIGION, ETC ETC. NB. WE RESPECT JESUS AS A PROPHET OF GOD AND NOT A SON OF GOD.

  • Logic

    @ JESSS

    actually all theologists (people who study the bible and religious contexts having to do with christianity) state the “son of god” could very well be a rough translation as we are all children of god, he created us. But the bible wasn’t written in the life of jesus or by jesus … but by a flawed man named john of his apostles … and we choose to follow this book? think about it

  • Rocky

    PUTTING THE HEART OF RELIGION BACK TO WORK FOR THE PEOPLE !!…………….

    In the city of Seville, Spain, local people found a simple way to STOP the construction of a mosque in their town.

    They buried a pig on the construction site, then made sure it would be noted by the media.

    FYI…… Islamic religious rules forbid the erection of Mosques on “pig soiled ground” !!

    Moslems had to CANCEL the project..The land was originally sold to them by Spanish government officials.

    No protests were staged or needed by the local citizenry…and the idea worked perfectly !!!

    • Syed

      Even if you bury all the pigs of the world earth has all the abilities grand by Allah (s.w.t) to purify itself and the mosque will be built at the same site Inshallah at the same site.

  • MUHAMMAD

    MR. TERRY JONES, I WELCOMING YOU TO ISLAM, PLEASE, WITH COOL MIND READ IT, UNDERSTAND IT THEN COME BACK TO YOUR ORIGINAL RELIGION, IN HISTORY OF ISLAM, WE GOT SO MANY PEOPLE LIKE YOU AND MORE HARD THEN YOU, BUT THEN BECOMES MORE POSITIVE TO ISLAM, I BELIEVE YOU TOO WILL BE MUSLIM. WELCOME BACK.

    • andy warhol

      lol

    • Augustus

      Wise up

  • JESSS

    haider/elabbasa

    HERE IN MIDDDLE EAST SPECIALY HERE IN SAUDI WHEN THEY SEE A BIBLE IN AIRPORT THEY CONFICATE IT…WHER YOU THINK THEY PUT THAT?
    YU THINK THEY WILL BRING THAT HOME?..DURE THEY WILL BURN THAT OR THROW IN TRANCH…AND ABOUT THEY RESPECT OTHER PROPHET?…I THINK NO
    THEY JUST TAKE SOME INFORMATION OF THE PROPHET AND USE THAT FOR THEM…EXAMPLE JESUS THEY SAY THEY RESPECT HIM…SO WHY THEY DONT RESPECT
    THE CHRISTIANS?…WE ARE THE FOLOWERS OF JESUS…IF THEY RESPECT WHAT THE BIBLE TELL SO NO NEED FOR MOHAMAD BECAUSE IT IS VERY CLEAR THAT
    JESUS TELL AFTER HIM THERE WILL BEE NO OTHER PROPHET BEACUSE THE SON OF GOD ALREADY COME…NOW WE WILL JUST WAIT FOR THE SECOND COMMING

    • haider

      To respect Bible is written in Quran- There is a Chapter with Name “Soora-e-Maryam” Maryam whom you called Marry – the mother of Jesus. Did the pastor mentioned to exclude the chapter before burning or did none of the Christians realized that he was going to burn the name of Jesus his holy mother and his God.

    • Syed

      Their is a possiblity that may be Saudis are selling back these books and making some quick bucks who knows are you one of them?

    • lo

      Lay off the booze jesss… Damn

  • Mari

    I thought the bible teaches love thy enemy? Did Jones skip that chapter? Muslims are not the enemy, ignorance is.

    • ileana

      Yes and he is loving his ignorance.

  • susy

    I hope the people planning on burning the Quran have good Insurance to cover the lawsuits that will follow for the damage they create.

    • Syed

      Susy I appreciate your feelings but more than that will be the lawsuite filed on the day of resurrection,The Day of Judgement when every one will be answerable for his own deeds.One should not deceive himself by some preists or pastors foolishness.Take care,

    • Miltary gurl

      SUSY???What lawsuits??? THE PASTOR AND EVERYONE ELSE IN THIS COUNTRY IS COVERED UNDER THE 1ST AND 4 AMENDMENT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
      SO HOW COULD HAJJI LOVERS SUE???

  • haider

    The Books of Christians -Bible and Jews – Miqra are also holy to Muslims thats why u never heard a single comment about burning them , did u? Infact if someone makes a burn bible day you will see muslims standing against it. Quran is from God the same writer of Bible and a writer always wants all his books to be respected.
    Better respect book of God. Islam preaches respect for all the religions that came before it – simple to understand, God sent the religion that’s now called Christianity , God sent the religion that’s now called Jewish- The God sent latest revelation is Islam that naturally have respect for the previous Prophets and their Books – Muslims Respect Jesus- Muslims Respect Moses- Muslims Respect Noah -Muslims Respect Zakria – Muslims Respect Essa -Muslims Respect Abrahim – Muslims Respect Yehya. Respecting Last prophet and quran is written there in Bible.
    Religion brings the fact of Holiness. Do u have any thing holy in your house?
    It typically can be a religious book. Only religion brings the concept of holiness in humans mind and this concept develops his sense in a positive constructive way.
    Burning a book of God is unholistic an act that takes human mind away from respect, holiness, honor and sacrifice. Takes one more near to materialism. Someone said “One who has respect; gives respect to others” – Islam Gives respect to Prophets and books of Christians and Jews; do u?

    • mg

      The Books of Christians -Bible and Jews – Miqra are also holy to Muslims . read your book and ask your imam

    • manju

      If Muslims respect other religions, then how come Taliban blasted the Bamiyan statues of Buddha with dynamite when they ruled Afghanistan and, Pakistani terrorists shot bullets into Jewish holy scrolls in Bombay in November 2008? How come Muslims built mosques over other religion’s places of worship wherever they became victorious – Dome of the Rock in Jerusalem over The second Jewish temple, Al-Aqsa mosque in Jerusalem over Byzantine church, The Grand Mosque of Cordoba in Spain over Byzantine church, Babri Masjid in India over a Hindu temple and so on, on an endless list?

    • S.B. Taylor

      God is not schizophrenic, which is how you make Him out to be. There is only one God, who sent His son Jesus Christ into the world to die for our sins.
      Muslims believe Jesus was not the one and only son of God, Christians do….both views cannot be correct. Respect is admirable, but the truth is much more valuable, and the truth is this…Jesus or nothing!!

  • elabbasa

    I do understand Terry’s openion. He wants to express his anger and BURN not LEARN. He has no Idea about the tolerance of Islam and don’t differenciate between Islam itself and some radicals like him with Islamic names and IDs. The openion saying that Quran teaches violence and cruility is completely wrong, because the Holly Books are from same source (ONE GOD), message to humanity in different languges to different nations on different times and situations!!!!!!!! The message is to beleive in God the creator. So Islam is the same religion carried by all Messangers and Prophets, to human beings.Unfortunately Terry says Jesus is GOD !!!!

    Allah says in Holly Quran:

    “How can you disbelieve in Allah when you were lifeless and He brought you to life; then He will cause you to die, then He will bring you [back] to life, and then to Him you will be returned.”

    “Mix not truth with falsehood, nor conceal the truth written in your Scriptures, the Taurat (Torah) and the Injeel (Gospel)] while you know (the truth) “.

    “Abraham instructed his sons [to do the same] and [so did] Jacob, [saying], “O my sons, indeed Allah has chosen for you this religion, so do not die except while you are Muslims.”

    “When death appeared before Jacob? Behold, he said to his sons: “What will ye worship after me?” They said: “We shall worship Thy god and the god of thy fathers, of Abraham, Isma’il and Isaac,- the one (True) Allah: To Him we bow (in Islam).”

    “Remember when the angels said: “O Maryam (Mary)! Verily, Allah gives you the glad tidings i.e. ‘Iesa (Jesus) the son of Maryam from Him, his name will be the Messiah ‘Iesa (Jesus), the son of Maryam , held in honour in this world and lifeafter.”

    Such praising and honor expressed to Mary the Virgin and and her son Jesus not to be burnt.Burning few copies of Quran Kareem will not harm Islam but hurting the doer himself.

    “Do not be grieved, [O Muhammad], by those who hasten into disbelief. Indeed, they will never harm Allah at all. Allah intends that He should give them no share in the Hereafter, and for them is a great punishment.”

    “Everyone is going to taste death, and We shall make a trial of you with evil and with good, and to Us you will be returned “Allah says.

    God Bless beleivers who planned to build Community Cultural Center for all American citizens with prayer to worship God and ask forgiveness for the victims of Ground Zero of different nations and ages. Also to pave the way for doubtful disbeleivers to LEARN not BURN the Holly Books (Godspell).

    • samuel

      u a rigt. the killing of innocent pple of iraq in the night in the name of capturing sadam. the crusade another sht.the uncheched atrocities in palestine acknowledge by the world many more

    • J Dean

      Imbecile try this, an Amerikan war crimes list: Hiroshima, Vietnam, Cuba, cambodia, Nicaragua, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Chile, Iran (1953), Iraq (ongoing), Afghanistan (ongoing), haiti. You can look it up.

    • A Christian

      As a christian, I am offended by your comment, specifically “Unfortunately Terry says Jesus is God!!!!” You have just denigrated the name of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. I will check back for your apology.

    • militaryfemalepilot

      The pastor in Fl should have burnt the damn book… who gives a crab its a book with pages who cares how would burning the Koran be any different than flag or bible burning? it is not.
      And Elabbassa… Obviously your not a natural born citizen of this country otherwise you would know the PROPER SPELLING OF OPINION OR AT least use spell check on your computer k..

      • Aareago

        @militaryfemalepilot: Are you really sure you know how to spell? I don’t think so. You are obviously not an authority to condemn Islam; otherwise, you would know the PROPER SPELLING OF QURAN or at least spy on pages that correctly spelt it.

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