Imam: Mosque Site Not Sacred Ground

Feisal Abdul Rauf Stresses How Much Of A New Yorker He Is

NEW YORK (CBS 2 / WCBS 880/1010 WINS/ AP) — It was clear from the speech he gave at the Council on Foreign Relations on Monday that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf intended to cast himself as a moderate Muslim and a proud New Yorker.

“I vote in elections, I pay taxes. I pledge allegiance to the flag. And I am a Giants fan,” Rauf said.

But, as CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer reports, he lost the support of many New Yorkers when he said the spot near ground zero where he wants to put his mosque and cultural center is not hallowed ground.

“It is absolutely disingenuous as many have said that that block is hallowed ground, with strip joints around the corner with betting parlors. Let’s clarify that misperception,” Rauf said.

But there are some who say it is the imam who has the “misperception.”

“I think that may be where he differs with the American people and the people of New York City. It is indeed hallowed ground as much as Gettysburg or Pearl Harbor or Auschwitz,” state GOP leader and member of the Council on Foreign Relations Edward Cox.

Construction worker Andy Sullivan helped pull bodies out of the pit and lost many friends on 9/11.

“To me it is a cemetery. I would never think of building something on top of a cemetery,” Sullivan said.

The imam tried to make it seem like he was open to changes.

“We are exploring all options. Everything is on the table,” Rauf said.

The imam’s wife, Daisy Khan, had the same message.

“Give us some time to make the right decision. We are New Yorkers. We are Muslims. We want to be part of rebuilding lower Manhattan and we just need some time to make the right decision,” Khan said.

But it didn’t seem like the imam was about to fold his tents and not build his mosque.

“This is an opportunity that we must capitalize on so that those who preach moderation will have a mega-horn to preach and to teach,” Rauf said.

Some say the imam won’t announce any new decisions until after the November elections. 

CBS News’ Pamela Falk analyzes Monday’s remarks
1010 WINS’ John Montone reports from the Council On Foreign Relations
WCBS 880’s John Metaxas on the emotional level of this post-9/11 debate 
WCBS 880’s Ginny Kosola on the Imam’s weekend comments

The proposed Islamic center has become a flashpoint for worldwide debate about Islam’s place in America nine years after the Sept. 11 attacks. Controversy has colored the fall campaign season and cast a a shadow on this past weekend’s commemoration of the attacks, with supporters and opponents of the mosque project both holding rallies nearby.
Rauf says a project meant to foster understanding has become unduly mired in conflict and what he describes as misconceptions of a fundamental clash between Islamic and American values. The Kuwait-born imam used his own life story as an example, saying that his own faith had been shaped by the sense of choosing one’s identity that American society provided, compared with the predominantly Muslim society from which he emigrated in 1965.
He said Monday that the Islamic center’s organizers were surprised by the uproar and might not have pursued it had they known what was coming.
“The events of these past few weeks have really saddened me to my very core,” he said, lamenting that the project had been misunderstood, clouded by stereotypes, and “exploited” by some to push personal or political agendas.

Meanwhile, a new Quinnipiac University poll says 70 percent of American voters believe Muslims have the right to build a mosque and cultural center near ground zero in Manhattan, but 63 percent say doing so would be wrong.
The poll released Monday also says only 38 percent of registered voters surveyed said they have a favorable opinion of Islam, while 40 percent have an unfavorable opinion.
Half of those surveyed say mainstream Islam is a peaceful religion, not one that encourages violence against non-Muslims.
Voters also disapprove of how President Barack Obama is handling the New York mosque controversy, 44 to 31 percent.
The poll surveyed about 1,900 registered voters nationwide from Aug. 31 to Sept. 7 and has a sampling margin of error of plus or minus 2.3 percentage points.

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  • marie

    knowing how much this mosque hurts americans, why would you build it? where is the compassion? would you build a shrine ti HITLER near aushwitz?

  • George Meyersick


  • nathan

    How do you decide the geographical boundaries for what is considered sacred ground? How far away would be ok with everyone?

  • Fidel Biez

    The USA should do as they did in WW II. When the USA was at war with the Axis powers they expelled all people that were not citizens and were either German , Japanese or Italian . The ones who decided to stay were put in interment camps.

    This country needs to go back to its roots.

  • Samuel

    Many body parts all over more than 3 blocks away. This is Sacred Ground.

  • Tom

    after 9/11 , attacks on Muslims were perpetrated out of anger and frustration. Then-President Bush urged the country to recognize that the war was against extremists, not Islam, and certainly not Muslims. And his speeches (one of the few times I agreed with Mr. Bush) seemed to help quell the tension.

    But I guess because the same rhetoric is coming from a Democratic President, who happens to not be white or from the South and a number of crazy people believe isn’t even an American, those valuable words have little or no meaning.

    I wonder if Mr. Bush were to be interviewed and repeat his words would he now be mocked or would suddenly everyone would regain their composure?

  • pete

    cool I like the pig idea

  • Roy

    Learn English…………….whytruth………

  • Daniel

    There was a Muslim prayer room in the twin towers and about 30 New York Muslims died in those attacks. We have Muslims serving in our military. Al Qaeda has killed more moderate Muslims than non-Muslims. When polled, Muslim countries have an even lower opinion and support for radical Islam (not even Al Qaeda but any sort of radical Islam) than people in this country who think Obama is a Muslim (below 20%.) Sufi Muslims (like the Imam here) are actually persecuted in other very conservative Muslim countries for being too moderate. There are only a few hundred, not a few thousand, and few hundred Al Qaeda members. That’s not even enough people to fill a single subway train. Why are saying that these terrorists represent all Muslims? It’s like me saying all right-wingers are government-hating anarchists like Timothy McVey or the guy that flew the plane into the IRS building in Austin, TX, or all catholic priest are child molesters. We could not be helping the terrorists more. This is EXACTLY their goal to drive a wedge between moderate Muslims and the rest of the world. Bin Laden never intended to bomb the US into submission, he wanted to make us terrorize ourselves by overreacting and making moderate Muslims believe that we are at war with them. By not allowing this center, and burning Quarans, we couldn’t be more part of Bin Laden’s plan than if he was controlling the outcome himself.

  • morris wise

    Erotic minded men, fear not Sharia Law, it will let you experiences the limits of the imagination. No longer will you spend hard earned money on pornography or greedy prostitutes, your concubines will fulfill countless sexual fantasies in the privacy of your home. Mosque attendance is not mandatory, but support of the Imam is necessary, he is a friend who is there to protect you from the evils of Satan.

  • sumera

    let this imam introduce his American version of Islam, that could help built a stronger and more diversified America ever…

  • Rodin

    “Religion is insanity by consensus.”


  • whytruthhurts

    In fact I read most of the comment on this thread and I can reply to all intelligently and logically but there is no point because the Qur’an says that:

    As for the Disbelievers, whether thou warn them or thou warn them not it is all one for them; they believe not. Allah hath sealed their hearing and their hearts, and on their eyes there is a covering. Theirs will be an awful doom (2:6)

    At the same time I thank CBS New Yoke for giving me the opportunity to at least clear or reply and refute some of the hate comments the ignorant people make. I would like to invite them for a debate with their misconception and hatred view on Islam.

  • uudeem

    If this proposal to build a mosque were made on September 12, 2001, this discussion would not be taking place.

  • whytruthhurts

    Gert Wilder is an Israeli Zionist pawn, what else could he possibly say? Well, we Muslims are taught to ignore the ignorant people because they are misguided by Satan and God doesn’t help them because they are heedless and arrogant but they will find their place in hell for preventing and distorting the truth.

  • JME

    murder of 3,000 people – if that’s not sacred what is – MECCA

  • A Muslim

    I am a muslim, before being a muslim, i am a human being. I acknowledge that this Imam’s idea is the worst ever. Had i been in my fellow American’s shoes, I would have rebelled as well, without a doubt.

    Like in every religion, you have the 2 extremities and the moderates. Our religion calls for moderation, us Moderate muslims cannot be held accountable for what extremists do as they are not part of what we believe in. If we did, then it will be holding all the Germans accountable until now for what Hitler did, holding McVeigh, whatever religion he was responsible for 168 killings… I mean does that make sense?

    For those who do not know – Islam has same roots and beliefs as Christians and Jews. We believe in only one God. We believe that doing good gets you to heaven and doing bad gets you to hell. If you see women wearing the veil, it is the same as nuns in christianity, as a sigh of respect, this does not mean that they stop using their brain, it just means that as some of us like wearing bikinis or walking nude on the beach, others prefer to wear more clothes. it is an individual choice. If some of the “extremists” roll their wives in black sheets, I don’t agree with that, but also it is their culture. Living in the desert is not easy and those people from the background and thousands of years of civilization, how they dress and cover themselves is a mean to survival. Try walking nude in the burning sun and let me know how it feels.

    So before you speak hatred and assume you understand why – read and learn and ask us. I pray to God that all the Devils in Islam go to hell, they are not worth being called muslims if they take lives of innocents in the name of islam.

    Thank you.

  • rhiggs72

    I find it unbelievable that so many Americans believe it is the right of Islam to build the mosque on this site despite the pain it would inflict on thousands of Americans – citing the US is based on freedom of speech and religious freedoms. Yet these same people so strongly oppose the pastor in Florida who wanted to burn the Quran…saying it would be offensive to Muslims. Regardless of where you stand with your beliefs, at least lets be consistent for all.

  • Brian

    The problem not addressed is, not whether or not the present imam or his congregation, or even the next five or six generations of their descendants, may find cause to contest this place as sacred. The problem not addressed, is whether or not 500 years from now others may use it as a cause to contest it as a sacred place, for which they may shed blood.

  • Ade

    They can build the mosque on one condition: On the site, There should also be a church, a synagogue, a bhuddist temple, a shinto shrine, an hindu shrine ……… ok, Im exhausted. However, thats the condition, y’all.

  • joe

    a proud muslim then I guess everyone the same Why we all killing each other for where is the love remember the finger you point your own people do the same you must be realy proud being like everyone i know this for sure and is very true all have sin not one is without sin and the only way to be forgivin is by repenting having your sin washed away with the blood of jesus we all killed him he came to offer himself up to die for the whole world that whosoever believes in the son of God will have life everlasting. we are all siners jesus is the only way call out to him he is there waiting for us all it what he came here for

  • Carrieanne


  • Tom

    Question to the group because I honestly don’t recall…

    Wasn’t at one point there a plan to incorporate retail / commercial space and offices in the rebuild of the site? Is that still the case?

    If so, may I ask…why are people not upset by that? Considering the claims that Ground Zero is a “burial site” and “hallowed ground”, why allow anything there other than a memorial?

    Frankly, I would have liked to have seen the towers rebuilt to say “Guess what world…business as usual. We’re not afraid.” But we know that’s not going to happen.

  • Tom

    Dan Te,

    Have you nothing original to say? You’ve posted that same diatribe in almost ever single discussion. At least come up with something new. You’re like a stand up comedian who uses the same material over and over again.

  • KIM


  • Alvin

    Of course the site isn’t ‘hallowed ground’… to Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf! He doesn’t care one bit for those killed on 9-11 by crazed islamists. But once a Mosque is built there( may God forbid ), Raul will immediatey recognize it as ‘sacred’ becoz a mosque symbolizes ‘islamic conquest’. Look at Israel. Jews can’t build a temple on the Templemount becoz there is this mosque called the Dome of the Rock.

  • Mohammed

    I think Muslims have every right to build the Mosque. HAhahaha

  • morris wise

    Most middle-eastern men have very few material possessions to help get them through a harsh life. Sharia law makes a man a king in his castle and a woman a slave to his sexual demands. Westerners that attempt to implant rebellion in the minds of his concubines and deprive a man of his erotic pleasures should expect the wrath of Allah.

  • Seriously

    RE: ron smith. Why don’t you hold muslims to same standard you expect the rest of us to abide by? Why do they not have to be tolerant and move the mosque? It would be like Pat Robertson trying to build a church in Mecca. How well would that go over?

  • Ravi Darmadasa

    American pussey men..cannot you put a stop to this mosque?
    Isnt there one American with balls?

    Let your muslim president be damned. At least send him home soon.

    American pussey men, do you get carried away by the imams talk? Foolish men.
    These fanatics killed 3000 men and you want to forget it?

    Your president says that Islam did not attack the twin towers. Wat a foolish man.

    • wgytruthhurts

      Ravi Dharmadasa seems to be born again cult who want to stop building mosque while he doesn’t mind putting a church for crusaders. It looks like he has the balls and nobody else in the US has so why not let him in the White House to fulfill his ignorant belief that the American president don’t have a ball. At least he will have a chance to feel if Obama has one or two.

  • A Proud Muslim

    how come nobody talks about Christians killing Christians in Ireland or Christans killing Jews in Germany or Jews crucifying Jesus Christ, or Christians wiping out the whole cities of Hiroshima and Nagasaki with nuclear bombs (where people are still affected with the radiations)… ohh…. I know why??? Two choices: either everybody is so ignorant and dumb that they don’t know the history and believe everything that bigot FOX news and CNN tell them.. or they live their double standard lives just like their dirty politicians..
    Choice is yours.. :)

    • Bj

      @ A Proud Muslim: It is because it was not just Christians, Jews, Muslims who bombed or fought in the name of their religion. There is a difference between holly wars and social war and what you are making reference towards what was based on social empowerment.

      Time has blurred the line between social and religious righteousness.

      As a Human I understand the unjust, as an American I pity those who can not accept what our country was founded on. America was build on war, looting, on the backs of slaves (Native Americans, white, black, Irish, German, Middle Eastern, South American) American ancestors raped, murdered, infected the Native Indians, robbed them of their culture to only toss them in camps to only forget about them, all in the name of WHAT CHRISTIANITY!! What makes this right?

      Ask yourself how much of this religious propaganda will you believe? My god is better because…… My religion is better….. Religion is used to fuel bigotry, hate, intolerance! We as a whole have lost our internal light, we have forgotten how to love our neighbor and to respect the natural boundaries. This Mosque is not about religion, the 9/11 attacks or radical Islamic. It is about nature and history repeating itself.

      Americans: Take a few minutes and see how many people have died in the name of A GOD! Think about how many people are denied their basic rights because of a religion. Still to this day we are denied rights because its “un-Godly” Christians are no different than Muslims – It makes my stomach turn to see so many people against something that their self proclaimed religion is guilty of!!

      This Imam is no different than the Billy Grahams of the Christan sec. An Islam is no different that Christianity. They are both fueled by hatred, bigotry, ignorance, intolerance, and misguidance in the name of success.

    • whytruthhurts

      Finally before I sum up, let me ask all the vociferous and hate filled American people a question that when will you be satisfied, the thirst for Muslim blood? I mean how many million Muslim you intent to kill for the 3000 innocent Americans died and how many women you want to make them widows and children orphans, men dead or crippled and property destroyed, you have done enough yet you want to kill more in the name of 9/11. What is the hard evidence you have to prove to the world the crime really committed by those 19 amateurs? Why did Bush and Cheney invaded Iraq if they were Saudis and Egyptians? In fact all these political dramas that you stage in order to cover up the crimes you are committing in the name of Democracy and freedom. Finally tell me what are my crime as a Muslim?

      • h

        What a whiner you are. I’ll bet you’re in this country living comfortably. What is your crime as a muslim? The lies you tell yourself and us about the true focus of islam. You count on the ignorance of many Americans who have not studies the inception of and growth of islam.

    • whytruthhurts

      That bomb is dropped by the so called civilized country called America and they can always cover any crime by their powerful media but if a third world country does that then it is a war crime and the leaders would be arrested and hanged or thrown behind bars.

  • Ron Smith

    Backing the constitution and not being a bigot is not being a “bleeding heart” it’s standing up for what’s right

    It’as easier to be a bigot and full of hate for everyone that isn’t like you than it is to see how wrong that is.. How foolish it is!

    One day the white Christians will not be the majority.. what then? You want a country that doesn’t protect minorities? Well one day you will be one. Thank god for the wisdom of our constitution.

    Bigotry is ugly and that is exactly what this whole thing is about.. intolerance and hatred… it’s ugly and an embarrassment to this country. We have people building Iraq .. thousands of out troops fought.. supposedly for the people or Iraq.. Muslims… people who pray to the same God as we do! Some of our troops are muslims.. these people are not the enemy.

    Our country is full of intolerance, hatred, and flat out ignorance.. it’s truly sad..

    Again…It’s weakness.. not strength to be full of hate and intolerance

  • slick willie jihad

    rmemember everyone must be tolerant to muslims. muslims dont have to be tolerant to anyone. any questions.

  • New Yorker

    Those of us that had the chance dealing with Muslims know that all of them are hypocrites. It’s in their blood. There is something inherent in that religion that affects their upbringing and causes their deceptive behavior. They smile shyly making you feel content, while planning the worse against you. How do we call it … “a snake in the grass”. In plan English, do not believe a word they say, just stay on the alert.

    • Will Free

      I second the motion…!

      • KIm

        I second your second.

  • droid barker

    How can the media that smeared every opponent of the mosque (Islamic center, are you kidding?) as “bigots” and “islamophobes” turn around and lecture people on intolerance? You hyprocites blow on the fire and then claim you were trying to put it out.

  • roaming idiot

    what if a stripper wandered out in the street & muslim men saw her? don’t they have to commit suicide?

  • Frank

    The prayer room in one of the towers, didn’t make that a mosque no more than prayer room in a hospital makes it a church. A prayer room in the community center does not make it a mosque.

    • Gladys - no pips

      when you call it the cordoba initative, it sure as hell sounds like one to me.

  • Mr. Brochacho

    No victory mosque near Ground Zero.

  • penny

    I have no problem with Mosques being built but NOT in or around the Ground Zero area. Someone should bury a pig on the site and that will end this discussion because they can’t build a mosque on dirty grounds. Then they can move to a more suitable location to build the new mosque. Nobody talks about the church that was destroyed in that area on 9/11 and was not allowed to rebuild!

  • John

    The truth is Islam would not accept its own failure to defend the people of America against terrorism. Why should the mosque be built on a site that causes the people’s sentiments to rise against Islam?

  • Scottm

    Muslims behave like children that need to be spanked. We should give them a good thrashing and send them home to the middle east!

  • A.L. Lusebrink

    Has EVERYONE forgotten basic English…? Look:

    “…we play into the terrorist’s hands.”
    S/B: terrorists’.

    “Rauf addressed the family’s who lost loved ones in the attacks.”
    S/B: Families.

    Why is punctuation so hard?!

    • Sheik Iman Wali Abduhl

      It’s ironic that you say “why is punctuation so hard” and mispunctuate the sentence with both exclaimation and question marks.

  • Nunya

    All faiths can visit?? Not sacred ground?? Well I have a couple of q’s then. Why do most mosques have gates around their entirety so they can screen their guests? Secondly, If it’s not sacred then why do you want to build a mosque there? Usually mosques are built only on sacred hallowed ground.

    • aaaa

      Am sorry my friend the comment that you posted about the place where Mesjid (next time stop using the word mosque that is not the right way to say it) is not a sacred ground. with this i can tell u that you have no idea about Islam what u know of Islam is just what you heard from the media. so if you are saying that Islam is wrong can you answer why Islam is the fastest growing religion in the world including USA? one more thing this does not mean that i am with the people who are using Islam as their reason to kill people. Islam has clearly stated that those who kill innocent people are going to be counted as if they have killed the whole of the human race.

      • Mark



    • Madelyn

      All faiths indeed. The koran says that christians and jews are pigs and monkeys.
      Am I really supposed to belive this nonsense, and it’s only multi cultural center since it came into great opposition.
      I am tired of having to defend what I consider to be an offensive front to fallen innocent victims murdered on that day.
      This man may not be responsible, but he gives me no conficence that he truly denouces them at all.
      It is sacred ground to many-I dont care if it is not sacred ground to him.
      Where is the respect and good will now?

  • edshaw
  • joe

    Please show me how Muslims are for peace they kill christians and just as those words you call people white trash, redneck Christian churches. The only ones who are fighting , killing and destorying chistians are Muslims islam We welcome everyone to worship what they believe but they want to destory our faith just look up
    The oldest son of Sheikh Hassan Yousef, a charismatic founding member of Hamas, Mosab Yousef makes his newfound faith public and risks everything to expose the secrets of the extremist Islamic organization and reveals the amazing double life he lived trying to prevent the killing of innocents by working with Hamas’ enemies.
    You can watch videos of the truth search son of hamas and lots of videos of the real truth of muslims of what they stand for.

    • Rodin


      Oh Lord our God,

      help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells;

      help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead;

      help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain;

      help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire;

      help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief;

      help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of
      their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it.

      For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimmage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, strain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!

      We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts.


      ~ MARK TWAIN

  • Citizen

    Unfortunately, too many people have lost the ability to discriminate – to see the differences between various options and to judge wisely among them. There is a fine line between bigotry and self-preservation, and tolerance and oppression. Our children and the future of this country are too important to allow those who stand on the wrong side of the lines to dominate.

  • Joe

    Prayer of Salvation ( The Sinners Prayer )

    Romans: Chapter 10 verse 9-10-13
    That if thou shalt confess with thy mouth the Lord Jesus, and shalt believe in thine heart that God hath raised him from the dead, thou shalt be Saved. For with the heart man believeth unto righteousness; and with the mouth confession is made unto Salvation. For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be Saved.

    (Confess with your mouth the following prayer )

    Heavenly Father:
    I come to you in prayer asking for the forgiveness of my Sins. I confess with my mouth and believe with my heart that Jesus is your Son, and that he died on the cross at Calvary that I might be forgiven and have Eternal Life in the Kingdom of Heaven. Father, I believe that Jesus rose from the dead and I ask you right now to come in to my life and be my personal Lord and Savior. I repent of my Sins and will Worship you all the days of my Life! Because your word is truth, I confess with my mouth that I am Born Again and Cleansed by the Blood of Jesus!
    In Jesus Name, Amen.

    Would you like to receive this power? Pray this prayer to receive the Holy Spirit. The Word of God Promises that if you ask you shall receive. Just humble yourself before God; be open and ready to receive. Give him your mind, your body, and your spirit.

    Do NOT go by your feelings. The Holy Spirit is received the by FAITH and not feelings.

    Now it is important to begin to speak after you pray the prayer. You can just begin to thank God and Praise. When I prayed and received the Holy Spirt I began to just say over and over “I plead the Blood Of Jesus” and the next thing you the Spirit of God just exploded in me. I have never felt anything so wonderful.

    If you are ready pray the prayer below.

    Heavenly Father, I am a believer. I am your child and you are my Father, Jesus is my Lord. I believe with all my heart your word is true.

    Your Word says that if I will ask I will receive the Holy Spirit. In the name of Jesus Christ, my Lord, I am asking you to fill me to overflowing with your precious Holy Spirit. Jesus Baptize me in the Holy Spirit. Because of Your Word, I believe that I now receive it and I thank you for it. I believe that the Holy Spirit is within me and by Faith I accept it.

    Now Holy Spirit, rise up within me as I praise my God. I fully expect to speak with other tongues as You give me the utterance. In Jesus Name I pray. Amen

    • Rodin


      Oh Lord our God,

      help us tear their soldiers to bloody shreds with our shells;

      help us to cover their smiling fields with the pale forms of their patriot dead;

      help us to drown the thunder of the guns with the shrieks of their wounded, writhing in pain;

      help us to lay waste their humble homes with a hurricane of fire;

      help us to wring the hearts of their unoffending widows with unavailing grief;

      help us to turn them out roofless with their little children to wander unfriended in the wastes of
      their desolated land in rags and hunger and thirst, sports of the sun flames in summer and the icy winds of winter, broken in spirit, worn with travail, imploring thee for the refuge of the grave and denied it.

      For our sakes who adore Thee, Lord, blast their hopes, blight their lives, protract their bitter pilgrimmage, make heavy their steps, water their way with their tears, strain the white snow with the blood of their wounded feet!

      We ask it, in the spirit of love, of Him Who is the Source of Love, and Who is the ever-faithful refuge and friend of all that are sore beset and seek His aid with humble and contrite hearts.



  • A Christian

    Imam, I think that putting up a victory mosque to the Jihadi’s that attacked us will only encourage the recruitment of more Jihadi’s to attack us. You better move the mosque since you are concerned about our safety. Do you mean that you taxpayer trip to preach tolerance to the muslim world wasn’t a success. Can we get our money back?

    • Philippines

      The proposed Islamic Center is backed by peace loving Muslims especilally American Muslims and not by terrorists. Cmon dont be bias with Muslims..

      • A Christian

        The Imam state that if the mosque was moved “anger will explode in the Muslim world,” That can be taken as a threat – do it my way or else there will be violence. What would be next – move the gambling OTB that he has complained about or else. Did you read about his associate Faiz Khan in the NY Post? He blames our govt for the 9/11 attacks and has preached at the mosque site. To me that is raising anger in the Muslim world and threatens our National Security. That kind of talk could lead to the recruitment of terrorists. I have nothing against peace loving Muslims. My comments were not biased but to the point of the Imam’s comments.

  • Jimmie3

    Iman one more thing could you please condemn those horrible non peace loving muslims in Indonesia that were beating up those christians and shutting down their churches. I would ask obama but I know he would not do anything or he might even condemn the Christians for being there.

    • Abdul


      We are talking about US,not Indonesia. You seem to mix apples with pears.
      This is America and we are supposed to respect all faiths and religions. What difference would it make where a Mosque or a Sinagogue is built. It has nothing to do with 911. You should know better than that.

    • Will Free

      I wouldn’t think that’s necessary, as they are cowards n a$$h0l3s anyways…

  • Tony West

    I watched this Iman at Larry King live.He tried to project himself as a sincere Moslem and tried to show his love for America but behind his outward appearance and soft talk lies a deep hidden agenda which is to gradually Islamise America. Now if he is a bridge builder as he claimed, why can’t he agree to move the mosque to another site since his very action of erecting a mosque on this very location has divided the America people and created more disunity, anger and hatred among Americans. May be this one of his aims.

    • kazor

      Very well said. This is was is called Taqiyya in Arabic.

      • Dan Te

        Ah yes. The typical confuse the issues gambit. Point out a few individuals in other cultures who are wantonly violent and than say “see see, it’s not only Islam”. Conveniently forgetting that the rampage is done by More than a Few mu-slimes and that it’s Global in scale. In fact, entire Islamic countries goes into rabid rages (see the latest in Pakistan and Afghanistan?) It’s the teachings of Islam – it has a tendency to draw the dumbest rampaging psychopaths to its folds.

        FACT: Everywhere where there are mu-Slimes, sh-!t happens.

        China — sh-!t happens
        (suicide bombers that kill little children and run amok with metal pipes in the streets)

        India — sh-!t happens
        (mu-slimes burned 100s of hindus alive in packed trains and burned villagers alive while they slept)

        Middle East — sh-!t happens
        (suicide bombers that kill little children)

        Russia — sh-!t happens
        (suicide bombers that kill women and children in crowded theaters)

        South East Asia — sh-!t happens
        (mu-slime thugs who kidnap teachers, school children, nurses, priests for ransom, than murder them all)

        Europe — sh-!t happens
        (suicide bombers that kill little children)

        USA — 9/11 happened

        Goes to reason, no mu-slimes, no sh-!t. All these camel turds understand is violence and lies.

        Islam. It’s a disease. And like any other infestations of boils, pox and pestilence, it should be eradicated. You don’t talk to diseases. You eradicate them like you did polio.

        And the bleeding heart imbecile here will always continue to blank out of their empty heads the worldwide mu-slime jubilee celebrations as people burned on 9/11.

    • Abdul

      Mr. West.

      Let’s say, you are a Christian living among Jews in predominantly jewish neighbordhood in the US, and you are asked to move away from the neighborhood because you are a Christian. What would you do?

      • KPMc

        Madelyn… his point is YOU didn’t do any harm.. but other ‘Christians’ did… What do you do?

      • Surbrised by American's Intolerance

        @ Madelyn and Dan Te

        This Imam has never killed anyone. Neither has the VAST majority of the Muslim population of America. Islam is not a violent religion in its pure form, but terrorists have a splinter variety of Islam they follow which is different. Like all Christians who murder and rape, they too are not following the true nature of their religion and are therefore not representative of the common, moderate worshiper. To say otherwise is not only false and bigoted, but reflects an unfortunate lack of genuine information from sources which aren’t trying to vilify and objectify these fellow Americans as “the enemy”. Please, please don’t continue to spread fear-mongering and hatred towards other religions. These people are just like you and me, and their religion is closer to both Christianity and Judaism than most other religions in the world. To blame our problems on one group of people like some of you are doing is reminiscent of the Nazi’s dehumanization of Jews. By making them the faceless, dark, and evil nemesis, you now find yourself justified to say or do whatever you want to them.

        Don’t wallow in ignorance. Recognize that Muslims are barely different from any of the rest of us.

      • Dan Te

        You a missing the point, Madelyn. Murdering people is part of Islamic worship. They have a “right” to worship the way they see fit. You’re just being intolerant. You should be more understanding of the murderous disease called Islam.

      • Ed

        There is an obvious difference between Jews, Christians and Muslims Abdul.
        By simple observation of this weekend’s events around the world that Christians and Jews do not share the same combative, ignorant, belligerent, murderous, non-tolerant, convert or die fanaticism that Muslims around the world display.
        People did not violently protest when Muslims broke into a Catholic church in Pakistan, desecrated the sanctity of a Holy place of worship and burned the churches Bible and left a note that said convert or die. And yet just the simple statement that someone was planning to burn the Koran was enough to ignite extremely violent protests by Muslims around the world.
        I am a Christian and an American and I believe that they could build anything within governing laws at the site and I personally have no objection to a mosque being built there however, many people do, for whatever the reason. It is obvious that the feelings of many people will be hurt and a further divide be created between our faiths if this project would continue. And I do believe that the issue is an issue because of politicians trying to polarize a voting public to win favor. But I feel that this Imam will be considered arrogant if he did not listen to the voice of the people, the local people, the people who feel a connection with the area because of the tragedy committed by fanatic cowards in the name of Islam.
        I imagine if the tables were turned, and it was my Pastor and my parish that wished to build a church in a neighborhood that did not want it, we would not build it, right or wrong.

      • EWagner635

        You are talking about someone moving from a neighborhood when his residence is already established. This mosque is NOT already established and it is NOT a single residence. You are comparing apples and oranges. No soup for you, NEXT!!

      • Dana

        Abdul, USA is predominantly Christian country. You are guests here and have to respect our values. If you don’t like it then GO HOME!

      • Nora077

        Move respect

      • Iman Sheik Wali Abduhl

        Why would any Christian live in a predominantly Jewish neighborhood. You’d be out of your mind.

      • Madelyn

        As long as I didn’t previously attack the Jews resulting in massive casualties, I would never be asked to leave.

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