Muslim Summit Planned Over Ground Zero Mosque

NEW YORK (CBS 2 / WCBS 880/1010 WINS/ AP) — A summit of Muslim organizations is planned for the weekend in New York City to address the rise of anti-Muslim sentiment linked to a proposed Islamic center near ground zero.

It isn’t clear whether the group will emerge with a firm endorsement of the proposed center. The meeting’s primary purpose is to talk about ways to combat religious bigotry.

But Shaik Ubaid of the Islamic Leadership Council of Metropolitan New York says he has a growing sense the that project is being embraced as a cause.

He says some American Muslims who initially reacted cautiously or with indifference to the center are now rallying around the plan because they feel their faith is under attack.

The meeting will take place as some supporters of the center are encouraging its backers to add prayer space for other religious groups.

It was clear from the speech he gave at the Council on Foreign Relations on Monday that Imam Feisal Abdul Rauf intended to cast himself as a moderate Muslim and a proud New Yorker.

“I vote in elections, I pay taxes. I pledge allegiance to the flag. And I am a Giants fan,” Rauf said.

But, as CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer reports, he lost the support of many New Yorkers when he said the spot near ground zero where he wants to put his mosque and cultural center is not hallowed ground.

“It is absolutely disingenuous as many have said that that block is hallowed ground, with strip joints around the corner with betting parlors. Let’s clarify that misperception,” Rauf said.

But there are some who say it is the imam who has the “misperception.”

“I think that may be where he differs with the American people and the people of New York City. It is indeed hallowed ground as much as Gettysburg or Pearl Harbor or Auschwitz,” state GOP leader and member of the Council on Foreign Relations Edward Cox.

Construction worker Andy Sullivan helped pull bodies out of the pit and lost many friends on 9/11.

“To me it is a cemetery. I would never think of building something on top of a cemetery,” Sullivan said.

The imam tried to make it seem like he was open to changes.

“We are exploring all options. Everything is on the table,” Rauf said.

The imam’s wife, Daisy Khan, had the same message.

“Give us some time to make the right decision. We are New Yorkers. We are Muslims. We want to be part of rebuilding lower Manhattan and we just need some time to make the right decision,” Khan said.

But it didn’t seem like the imam was about to fold his tents and not build his mosque.

“This is an opportunity that we must capitalize on so that those who preach moderation will have a mega-horn to preach and to teach,” Rauf said.

Some say the imam won’t announce any new decisions until after the November elections. 

LISTEN:
CBS News’ Pamela Falk analyzes Monday’s remarks
1010 WINS’ John Montone reports from the Council On Foreign Relations
WCBS 880’s John Metaxas on the emotional level of this post-9/11 debate 
WCBS 880’s Ginny Kosola on the Imam’s weekend comments

The proposed Islamic center has become a flashpoint for worldwide debate about Islam’s place in America nine years after the Sept. 11 attacks. Controversy has colored the fall campaign season and cast a a shadow on this past weekend’s commemoration of the attacks, with supporters and opponents of the mosque project both holding rallies nearby.
   
Rauf says a project meant to foster understanding has become unduly mired in conflict and what he describes as misconceptions of a fundamental clash between Islamic and American values. The Kuwait-born imam used his own life story as an example, saying that his own faith had been shaped by the sense of choosing one’s identity that American society provided, compared with the predominantly Muslim society from which he emigrated in 1965.
   
He said Monday that the Islamic center’s organizers were surprised by the uproar and might not have pursued it had they known what was coming.
   
“The events of these past few weeks have really saddened me to my very core,” he said, lamenting that the project had been misunderstood, clouded by stereotypes, and “exploited” by some to push personal or political agendas.

Meanwhile, a new Quinnipiac University poll says 70 percent of American voters believe Muslims have the right to build a mosque and cultural center near ground zero in Manhattan, but 63 percent say doing so would be wrong.
   
The poll released Monday also says only 38 percent of registered voters surveyed said they have a favorable opinion of Islam, while 40 percent have an unfavorable opinion.
   
Half of those surveyed say mainstream Islam is a peaceful religion, not one that encourages violence against non-Muslims.
   
Voters also disapprove of how President Barack Obama is handling the New York mosque controversy, 44 to 31 percent.
   
The poll surveyed about 1,900 registered voters nationwide from Aug. 31 to Sept. 7 and has a sampling margin of error of plus or minus 2.3 percentage points.

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  1. slowthinker says:

    Why Did Cordoba Project Change It’s Name To Park 51, When It’s Address is 45 47 Park?

    Posted on 15 September 2010 03:19:50 by CharlesMartelsGhost

    Good question, huh? I’ve wondered about this for awhile.

    Cordoba House changed its name to Park 51 which is odd since the address of the location is 45 47 Park Place.

    Look to the Koran-the book of islamic conquest Qur’an CHAPTER 51, Verses 45-47 explains all:

    51:45 And they were unable to arise, nor could they defend themselves. 51:46 And [We destroyed] the people of Noah before; indeed, they were a people defiantly disobedient. 51:47 And the heaven We constructed with strength, and indeed, We are [its] expander.

    The numbered Qur’an verses celebrating the Muslim conquests match up to the Park 51: 45-46-47 address.

    Also consider this Sept. 10th NYPost article, by Amir Taheri:

    Islam center’s eerie echo of ancient terror Should there be a mosque near Ground Zero? In fact, what is pro posed is not a mosque — nor even an “Islamic cultural center.”

    In Islam, every structure linked to the faith and its rituals has a precise function and character. A mosque is a one-story gallery built around an atrium with a mihrab (a niche pointing to Mecca) and one, or in the case of Shiites two, minarets.

    Other Islamic structures, such as harams, zawiyyahs, husseinyiahs and takiyahs, also obey strict architectural rules. Yet the building used for spreading the faith is known as Dar al-Tabligh, or House of Proselytizing.

    The Ground Zero project doesn’t fit the traditional minaret. This 13-story [fifteen story if you include subgrade levels] multifunctional structure couldn’t be any of the above.

    The groups fighting for the project know this; this is why they sometimes call it an Islamic cultural center. But there is no such thing as an Islamic culture. Islam is a religion, not a culture. Each of the 57 Muslim-majority nations has its own distinct culture — and the Bengali culture has little in common with the Nigerian. Then, too, most of those countries have their own cultural offices in the US, especially in New York. Islam is an ingredient in dozens of cultures, not a culture on its own.

    In theory, at least, the culture of American Muslims should be American. Of course, this being America, each ethnic community has its distinct cultural memories — the Iranians in Los Angeles are different from the Arabs in Dearborn.

    In fact, the proposed structure is known in Islamic history as a rabat — literally a connector. The first rabat appeared at the time of the Prophet.

    The Prophet imposed his rule on parts of Arabia through a series of ghazvas, or razzias (the origin of the English word “raid”). The ghazva was designed to terrorize the infidels, convince them that their civilization was doomed and force them to submit to Islamic rule. Those who participated in the ghazva were known as the ghazis, or raiders. After each ghazva, the Prophet ordered the creation of a rabat — or a point of contact at the heart of the infidel territory raided.

    The rabat consisted of an area for prayer, a section for the raiders to eat and rest and facilities to train and prepare for future razzias. Later Muslim rulers used the tactic of ghazva to conquer territory in the Persian and Byzantine empires. After each raid, they built a rabat to prepare for the next razzia.

    It is no coincidence that Islamists routinely use the term ghazva to describe the 9/11 attacks against New York and Washington. The terrorists who carried out the attack are referred to as ghazis or shahids (martyrs). Thus, building a rabat close to Ground Zero would be in accordance with a tradition started by the Prophet. To all those who believe and hope that the 9/11 ghazva would lead to the destruction of the American “Great Satan,” this would be of great symbolic value.

    Faced with the anger of New Yorkers, the promoters of the project have started calling it the Cordoba House, echoing President Obama’s assertion that it would be used to propagate “moderate” Islam.

    The argument is that Cordoba, in southern Spain, was a city where followers of Islam, Christianity and Judaism lived together in peace and produced literature and philosophy.

    In fact, Cordoba’s history is full of stories of oppression and massacre, prompted by religious fanaticism. It is true that the Muslim rulers of Cordoba didn’t force their Christian and Jewish subjects to accept Islam. However, non-Muslims could keep their faith and enjoy state protection only as dhimmis (bonded ones) by paying a poll tax in a system of religious apartheid.

    If whatever peace and harmony that is supposed to have existed in Cordoba were the fruit of “Muslim rule,” the subtext is that the United States would enjoy similar peace and harmony under Islamic rule.

    A rabat in the heart of Manhattan would be of great symbolic value to those who want a high-profile, “in your face” projection of Islam in the infidel West. This thirst for visibility is translated into increasingly provocative forms of hijab, notably the niqab (mask) and the burqa. The same quest mobilized hundreds of Muslims in Paris the other day to close a whole street so that they could have a Ramadan prayer in the middle of the rush hour.

    One of those taking part in the demonstration told French radio that the aim was to “show we are here.” “You used to be in our capitals for centuries,” he said. “Now, it is our turn to be in the heart of your cities.”

    Before deciding whether to support or oppose the “Cordoba” project, New Yorkers should consider what it is that they would be buying.

  2. slowthinker says:

    Imam Faisal Abdul Rauf Tells Jordanian Newspaper he is for Sharia Law
    September 14, 2010
    By admin
    I continually see the media calling the Imam of the proposed Ground Zero Mosque a “moderate”. But the truth is that no Muslim who supports Sharia is a moderate, because Sharia calls for the domination of non-Muslims. Here is what the Imam had to say about Sharia to the Jordanian newspaper al-Ghad.

    Hat tip to Ryan, with some help from the Desert Queen.

    Here it is in Arabic.

    عندما يكون لأحد ما شكوى في الشرق الأوسط، ويقول “أنه يجب أن يكون هناك قانون”، فهو يعرف أن هذا القانون موجود. القانون الوحيد الذي يحتاجه المسلم موجود في القرآن الكريم والحديث الشريف. لقد سألني الناس مباشرة بعد هجمة الحادي عشر من أيلول/سبتمبر لماذا تتخذ الحركات العديدة ذات الأجندات السياسية أسماء دينية؟ لماذا تسمى “الأخوان المسلمين” أو “حزب الله” أو “حماس” أو حركة المقاومة الإسلامية؟ أجيبهم أن التوجه الإسلامي نحو القانون والعدالة يبدأ باللغة الدينية لأن الحركات العلمانية قد فشلت في إيصال ما يريده المسلمون، وهو الحياة والحرية والسعي وراء السعادة.

    Here is the paragraph translated to English.

    “People asked me right after the 9/11 attacks as to why do movements with political agendas carry [Islamic] religious names? Why call it ‘Muslim Brotherhood’ or ‘Hezbollah (Party of Allah)’ or ‘Hamas’ or ‘Islamic Resistance Movement’? I answer them this — that the trend towards Islamic law and justice begins in religious movements, because secularism has failed to deliver what the Muslim wants, which is life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. . . .The only law that the Muslim needs exists already in the Koran and the Hadith.” A state based on the Koran and Hadith could only be called a theocracy

  3. lulu says:

    $3.3 billion dollar Ground Zero building in which the tax payer will have to pick up the slack. Why not just a memorial?

  4. Mohamed was a pedo says:

    It’s time we stop pandering to these savage killers. Draw a line in the sand (no pun intended) and when they cross it destroy them. Starting right here in the US

  5. evil says:

    Dante, you made cnn very proud.

    1. DanTe says:

      Sigh. How the mu-slimes bites that hands that coddles them. Get your sound bites right, it’s Fox you want to refer to. Not CNN who thinks you mu-slimes are a “religion of peace”. HA! Thanks for proving mu-slimes are born stupid. Nobody could possibly be working that hard at being that stupid. Just too much work. Especially for you lazy camel turds.

  6. evil says:

    nana before u say anything about packing up bags ask ur soldiers to pack up their bags from Iraq. we know exactly why u are there. Those oils are not for u.

    1. DanTe says:

      You’re right “evil”. We should remove all our soldiers. That’s why the Iraqis are so scared of losing their freedom now that we’re pulling out, right? The mu-slimes there knows what mu-slimes are like. That’s why they asked for the US to extend some “advisors” for a longer period.

    2. American says:

      Your right, our soldiers should have never stepped foot in Iraq. We should have nuked the damn place!!!

  7. jalil says:

    nana you are wrong most of muslim countries have churches and cordoba house will have a church and synaguogue and a center for interfaith dialogue,plus i’m american i have the same rights as you and plz don’t speak on my behalf cause i don’t share the same beliefs with you.i advize you to do some readings cause you sound just like the people who enslaved the africans and killed most of the native american people.

  8. evil says:

    nana before u say anything about packing up bags ask ur soldiers to pack up their bags from Iraq.

  9. jalil says:

    few examples 1 million and half algerians killed by the french occupation 1 million killed in irak by the american occupation 100 thousands killed in afghanistan by u.s and allied forces
    palestine is occupied by israel remember just 30 years ago most of the muslim countries were occupied by england france and spain (christian countries).what about the crusades the wiping out of the native american race slavery two nuclear bombs hitler stalin etc.now should i blame the bible or christians of course not cause i have a brain.plz ask your government why norad was grounded on 9/11 why there is no picture or video of the pentagon attack why silverstein included a terrorist attack insurance policy on the towers right before 9/11 etc.

  10. nana says:

    listen, you need to pack up your F!!!!! bags and leave our country you are hiding behind false words you know exactly what your Cordoba House means, you have not conquer us, you think you have or will but God won’t let you, now some how you have gotten the so called good muslims to change their minds from thinking the mosque should not be built near ground zero, it was never about religion and you know that, it is about respect, regards, for our loss due to your country men cowardly ACT, we can’t build a church or a home in your country Why? oh yes, we are not muslims,and we do not share your beliefs, so there goes our heads, and put in prison for being a spy,take your baggage and leave you are an evil, lying devil. This Is America The Land That We Love That Is Free To All That Will Not Destroy It.

  11. UZAIR says:

    WHEN OSAMA BIN LADEN WAS FI8NG AGAINST RUSSIA HE WAS A “HERO” FOR AMERICAN GOVT… BUT NOW HE IS A “TERRORIST”…. HAHA.. I DON HV WORDS TO DESCRIBE U PPL… “EVIL’ …

  12. evil says:

    Did bush took revenge on the terrorist killing 1 million people where babies with blown out hands or legs scattered around street of Iraq…?

    1. DanTe says:

      Shrug. Mu-slimes killing mu-slimes. It’s a Good Thing.

      FACT: Everywhere where there are mu-Slimes, sh-!t happens.

      China — sh-!t happens
      (suicide bombers that kill little children and run amok with metal pipes in the streets)

      India — sh-!t happens
      (mu-slimes burned 100s of hindus alive in packed trains and burned villagers alive while they slept)

      Middle East — sh-!t happens
      (suicide bombers that kill little children)

      Russia — sh-!t happens
      (suicide bombers that kill women and children in crowded theaters)

      South East Asia — sh-!t happens
      (mu-slime thugs who kidnap teachers, school children, nurses, priests for ransom, than murder them all)

      Europe — sh-!t happens
      (suicide bombers that kill little children)

      USA — 9/11 happened

      Goes to reason, no mu-slimes, no sh-!t.
      All these camel turds understand is violence and lies anyway. I say we oblige them by killing them all and than lie about how sorry we are.

      Islam. It’s a disease. And like any other infestations of boils, pox and pestilence, it should be eradicated. You don’t talk to diseases. You eradicate them like you did polio.

      And some bleeding heart imbecile here will post that it’s just a few individuals that are murderous, just like any other society. But than conveniently forgetting about the Fact that it happens worldwide and by a LOT MORE than just a few individuals. And they also continues to blank out of their empty heads the worldwide mu-slime jubilee celebrations as people burned on 9/11.

      1. peace says:

        it is funny how u put 911 at the end where it should be the first on the list, where conflict started along with papa bush in gulf war and Israeli conflict. Dumb @$$ like u need to understand from where the real conflict started.

      2. DanTe says:

        Hey “peace”, check your history on the chronology. But Facts and Truth never were a mu-slime’s strong suit, is it?

        Allah’s Ma Licks ‘Em

  13. evil says:

    Some terrorist group killed 3000 people.
    American government killed 1 million people including women and children.

    hmm… lets see who is more evil…

  14. UZAIR says:

    i agree with jalil .. osama bin laden was a cia agent … u non-sene people… just think n search before u bark….just look at ur past….

  15. UZAIR says:

    @DBAG …
    ITS GOOD THAT U R CONCERNED ABOUT THE 3,000 INNOCENT PEOPLE KILLED ON 9/11…. AND I CONDEMN THAT INCIDENT…..BUT WHAT ABOUT THE 650,000 INNOCENT PEOPLE KILLED IN IRAQ FOR NO REASON?? PLZ JUSTIFY .. !!

  16. jalil says:

    44 out of 45 muslim countries have churches and synaguoguesas a muslim i have no problem with christians and jews and i don’t blame the american people for their murderous evil government

  17. jalil says:

    well your country killed 1 million muslims in irak and 100.000 in afghanistan and support a terrorist state called israel so enough of the crying 9/11 was a tragic event and i feel sorry for the victims and their families but i think that the u.s government had something to do with it come on no pictures or video of a plane hitting the pentagon plz do your research people.as a muslim i will never curse the bible or torah because they are books of god and to be a muslim we have to believe in jesus moses and all the prophets peace be upon them.and that’s why islam is the fastest growing religion in the world.and plz keep in mind that bin laden was a CIA operative under the name tim osman and the operation he was recruited for was called operation false flag just google it and you will find the truth.keep in mind that the first country to recognize U.S.A is morocco a muslim country.when hitler asked the king of morocco to hand him the jews living there he told him they are not jews they are moroccans.peace to all my true christian and jewish brothers and sisters and for biggots and ignorants plz educate yourself befor posting hateful comments

  18. mike says:

    I agree he should build a Mosque. In Iran.

  19. SeaBee says:

    I see a fundamental problem for the Muslims. They cannot, within Islam, insure the building because whatever happens is “inshallah” (the will of God). Those who oppose the building will, given the opportunity, destroy it. The Muslims will, eventually, run out of money.

  20. Rich says:

    Mr. Obama tells Muslims has the right to build Mosque, but he never reminds Muslims that you need to give other religion the same right, If you really want to help Muslim, pls teach them to give

  21. Luz Vega-Hidalgo says:

    S what are the protestors protesting. There has been a mosque, in the same place where a new one is being planned for the last 23 years. We Christians in the U.S. have had our share of wacko terrorist, and Christian churches go up all the time.

  22. MIke_88 says:

    Let’s say they build the mosque. Saddened American’s will no doubt march down to the mosque every 9/11 filled with emotion to protest.

    This will lead to muslim protesting to defend their religion. Clashing in the streets will begin and it will never end. There will be violence, there will be death, all in the name of a peaceful, caring religion called Islam.

    The same peaceful religion that hijacked three planes and crashed them into the hearts of the American people saying we will always kill more of you.

    With the government and corporate greed sinking American way of life at an alarming rate, there will soon be enough American’s ready to give their lives at home fighting muslims for their country as a muslim friended president allowed the door to be opened for their agenda to prosper.

    Muslim’s will deny this, but if you look around it has happened everywhere else. If a muslim claims they are peaceful and loving, after reading the koran you will find they are a failed muslim.

    1. jp says:

      You act as if there aren’t any Christian terrorist groups, Jewish terrorist groups, White terrorist groups, etc. What about the mosques being protested around the country, thousands of miles away from Ground Zero? If this was completely about ground zero then it would be understandable, but it’s not.

  23. Lets build says:

    This mosque was built in 1970 and it is not exactly on ground zero. Mosque has been there way before 911. As a new yorker and a Muslim all i will say is both Muslim and non Muslim have lost their lives during 911 and I’m not going to let some dumb haters and some radical group completely distort the view point of my religion.

  24. jp says:

    Here are a couple of things that I hope will clarify a few things.
    1. If the media didn’t blow this way out of proportion, the only people that would know about this mosque would be those who live in the local community.
    2. For those of you like Kim who believe this is a “victory mosque”, this place is going to have a 9/11 memorial room, a restaurant, culinary school, gym, pool, and basketball courts. All of these are open to the community. “Yeah, that’s the way we’ll stick it to the Americans. Let’s give them a recreational center.”
    3. In the 9 years after 9/11, no one has wanted to purchase that old building or many other buildings near it. Would you rather it sit there unoccupied forever?

  25. James says:

    Some Islamic countries dont allows Christians or other religions to build their worship places. But it is so funny that they want to send their money to build a mosque in NY city. My dear Muslim brothers and sisters, pls do first and then you tell others. You need to stop just receiving pls learn to give as well.

  26. observer says:

    meaning of secularism in islam:
    i asked a muslim why he needs secularism when almost all muslim majority countries are islamic. he explained that only islam can guarantee true secularism. . he sincerely believed islam and sharia brings true freedom and human rights superior to all present religions /philosophies and jurisprudence. so it is good for all when islamic rule is established and it is the foremost duty of muslims to engage in JIHAD to establish that islamic rule.

  27. Mohammed Abdul Aziz says:

    “It is absolutely disingenuous as many have said that that block is hallowed ground, with strip joints around the corner with betting parlors. Let’s clarify that misperception,” Rauf said. Adding, “a terrorist indoctrination mosque will not detract from the mix.”

  28. BS Meter says:

    So? what happened with the Slumlord-angle in Union, NJ today? is our media going to pretend that aspect of this person (along with the non-rent paying developer as reported earlier this week in NY papers)? are we now subject to misdirection, because that doesn’t meld nicely with what we’re supposed to believe about this 13-story mega-mosque supposedly being planned for some sort of harmony?..

  29. KARL LAGERFELD says:

    where’s the money? let them have a floor in the freedon tower

  30. Ella says:

    Building a mosque in a place where Muslim fundamentalists killed people is the height of insensitivity. It’s equivalent to building a pro-Nazi monument in Jerusalem. Some things should just not be done.

  31. Yusaf says:

    Thank you all Haters

    Its because of you that Islam is the fastest growing religion in USA and Europe.

    Really, its not a taunting comment. I really am thank full

    Many of the people i know entered Islam just because of hearing all of the haters when they say bad stuff about Islam .

    Keep up the good work

    1. DanTe says:

      And a

      Allah’s Ma Licks ‘Em

      to you too, Yusaf.

  32. Dbag says:

    The fact that the Imam does not consider the site to be “hallowed’ because strip clubs and betting parlors are in the vicinity speaks volumes. Muslims feel that their religion is under attack because people are expressing their opinions? Nine years ago, our country was attacked. I watched people jumping to their deaths rather than burn to death. Innocent people who wanted nothing more than to go to their jobs and earn a living. That day I learned everything I needed to know about the peaceful religion of Islam. Build it someplace else. This country was built on American, not Muslim values. Think Islam is a peaceful religion? Think it’s sad ’cause most Americans don’t want the Mosque built near Ground Zero? Find someone whose loved one never came home 9 years ago. Ask them what they think is sad.

  33. FCKISLAM says:

    @Ahmed
    ===YOUR KORAN BOOK IS A DEVIL BOOK!!!…YOU USE THE WORD OF GOD TO KILL PEOPLE !,GIVE PAIN TO THE FAMILY OF THE MUSLIM VICTIMS EVERY WHERE IN THE WORLD….ISLAM ARE TERORIZE BECAUSE ALLAH IN YOUR BOOK IS DEMON !!!DO NOT EVER SAY SALAMAYKOM AGAIN ..THERE IS NO PEACE IN YOUR RELEGION !!!

    1. Atak Al Hajam says:

      U SAID FCK MUSLIM, MAY BE U NEVER READ QOR’AN BEFORE (THN U LIE TO MAKE PROVOCATION FOR YOUR CONCERN ONLY); OR U READ ON TH NEGATIVE THINKKING ?? IF U READ QUR’AN (ARABIC LITERATE I AM SURE YOU’RE NOT CAPABILITY). IF U READ QU’AN TRANSLATED ON YOUR NATIVE LANGUAGE, U WILL FOUND THAT TH QUR’AN EXPAINED TO MANKINDS, THT TH ONLY DEVIL & HIS FOLLOWER REJECTED ALLAH ORDER (i.e Al Qur’an too)…SAME WITH YOUR NONSENSE ARGUMENT. NAUDZUBILLAH MIN DZALIK.

  34. Anti-allah says:

    There are a plethora of mosX in manhattan. This is clearly an attempt to draw media attention, stir up some trouble and pour some salt in our wounds. The people behind this are using OUR freedoms and laws against us.
    Now they are organizing a rally to defend their beliefs? We were attacked on the very same ground that they plan to march and build on for our beliefs and laws. The people who want to see this go through have absolutely no regard for OUR beliefs and laws. “Peace loving muslims?” This project and debate are not exactly promoting peace and goodwill. I witnessed the celebrations outside the mosX of NYC on 9/11/01 and the weeks following. These “peace loving muslims” were out in the streets revering in the despicable actions of their “brothers.”
    If you are so peace loving then go celebrate your peace in any of the multitude of mosX scattered throughout Manhattan and the rest of the boroughs for there are PLENTY of them. Peace loving my ass!!!!!

  35. peace be upon you says:

    Stop misrepresenting Islam over terrorism.

    1. DanTe says:

      Yes “peace”. Stop lying about mu-slimes. Here’s some FACTS.

      FACT: Everywhere where there are mu-Slimes, sh-!t happens.

      China — sh-!t happens
      (suicide bombers that kill little children and run amok with metal pipes in the streets)

      India — sh-!t happens
      (mu-slimes burned 100s of hindus alive in packed trains and burned villagers alive while they slept)

      Middle East — sh-!t happens
      (suicide bombers that kill little children)

      Russia — sh-!t happens
      (suicide bombers that kill women and children in crowded theaters)

      South East Asia — sh-!t happens
      (mu-slime thugs who kidnap teachers, school children, nurses, priests for ransom, than murder them all)

      Europe — sh-!t happens
      (suicide bombers that kill little children)

      USA — 9/11 happened

      Goes to reason, no mu-slimes, no sh-!t.
      All these camel turds understand is violence and lies anyway. I say we oblige them by killing them all and than lie about how sorry we are.

      Islam. It’s a disease. And like any other infestations of boils, pox and pestilence, it should be eradicated. You don’t talk to diseases. You eradicate them like you did polio.

      And some bleeding heart imbecile here will post that it’s just a few individuals that are murderous, just like any other society. But than conveniently forgetting about the Fact that it happens worldwide and by a LOT MORE than just a few individuals. And they also continues to blank out of their empty heads the worldwide mu-slime jubilee celebrations as people burned on 9/11.

  36. John says:

    a summit to address the fact that there may be anti muslim feelings..

    not to discuss the possibility that you may have chosen the wrong location.

    poor muslim victims.

  37. KIM says:

    It’s really a sad day when people who have openly attacked this country causing thousands of casualties are permitted to build on what we consider to be sacred ground.
    Mind you, they are permitted to build and do build basically everywhere that they want to- they are not denied freedom of religion.
    But they insist on this spot because of the very factthat is causes us great pain.
    any questions?

  38. Madelyn says:

    Enough with this already. Why not consider allowing this buildingto be considered officeally part of ground zero.

    A piece from one of the planes crashed through the roof of this site.

    isn’t that enough to see it’s hallowed ground to us?

    It’s like talking to a wall.

    move the mosque to somewhere else.

  39. proud agnostic says:

    The mooslims are savages.Always were.Always will be.How many churches and synogouges in there country?

    1. nul_01 says:

      There are numerous churches in my town… in fact my neighbours both at right and left side of my house are christians and roman catholics… there is only one synagog here
      Nul – Indonesia

      1. DanTe says:

        Here’s a hint “nul_01”: If you have to lie to make your point. Then you have no point.

        Allah’s Ma Licks ‘Em

  40. Ahmed says:

    Protest against bigotry tomorrow. Build the mosque! Allah Akbar

    1. DanTe says:

      Can we fly a plane into it? In the proud mu-slime tradition?

    2. MIke says:

      Build it and after the next terroist attack it will be destroyed like all other mosques in this country.

  41. C. Allison says:

    If the people who want to build the mosque are genuine in their feeling towards America than surely the decent think to do would be not to cause America any more upset, and to just drop the project.

    1. Nissiam says:

      How can you say that? actually there is a lot and this is a proud moroccan jew, born and raised here, studied undergrad in europe, grad in US and back to my country so i can tell you that u wrong, this is not a religious war, this what some people want to believe in, we need to stop this whole thing, and americans as the first economic and military power can help in that. stop this whole racial religious thing, the fight is just political and economical and strategic (middle east conflict) and as a jew i am not sure israel did good in this 60 year conflict. Please read history and travel a bit before saying stuff like this otherwise the world will end up in a huge war.

      1. Nissiam says:

        This message was meant for proud agnostic. Sorry and have a nice day

  42. Jane says:

    Daisy Khan is asked for a response in the piece below. Her repsonse will be telling.

    Urgent: Feminist Icons Needed (That means you, Ms. Steinem) (http://open.salon.com//blog/nyframed/2010/09/17/urgent_feminist_icons_needed_that_means_you_ms_steinem)

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