Whooping Cough Alert On Long Island

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WEST ISLIP, NY (WCBS 880) - An alert has been issued after a nurse at Good Samaritan Hospital in West Islip was diagnosed with whooping cough.

LISTEN: WCBS 880′s Sophia Hall reports

Hospital officials say the nurse works in the maternity ward and has completed antibiotic treatment.

The hospital notified patients, families, and employees that may have come in contact with the nurse.

The New York State Health Department’s Pete Constantakes says getting the vaccine is the best way to prevent the disease.

“Young infants, lots of times they haven’t receive the full series of vaccinations or any… if they’re newborn,” Constantakes tells WCBS 880 reporter Sophia Hall. “In this case, we’re still looking to see what happened, whether it was a big risk. And, again, we will take any sanctions we need to, to make sure this doesn’t happen in the future.”

Whooping cough, also known as purtussis, causes violent and uncontrollable coughing.

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ConcernedParent

And here’s another excellent link. Vaccines DID save us, people. Washing our hands and taking poop out of our water didn’t.

http://www.hhs.gov/nvpo/concepts/intro6.htm
ConcernedParent

For all who think that “vaccines didn’t save us” and infection rates were already lowering prior to development of vaccines, please read this excellent article:

http://scienceblogs.com/insolence/2010/03/the_intellectual_dishonesty_of_the_vacci.php
http://thedailyconservative.net/2010/10/06/whooping-cough-alert-issued-on-long-island/ Whooping Cough Alert Issued On Long Island… | The Daily Conservative

[...] (First column, 18th story, link) [...]
djbwain

http://wholefoodusa.wordpress.com/2009/10/16/robert-kennedy-jr-cdc-and-pharma-fraudulently-covers-up-vaccineautism-connection/

Take all the shots you want. If they work… then it’ll only be us tinfoil hatters dying. Leave us alone.

ConcernedParent

Now THERE’S a responsible member of society! Way to be a team player, dude. Bet you’re a libertarian. And that you don’t help your wife clean the dishes after dinner either – “leave me alone!”

Problem is, when you don’t join in, you erode everyone’s herd immunity. And THAT’S when even vaccinated people get diseases we should have eradicated a long time ago.

And you’re gonna cite Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to me? Really? I don’t know what’s worse – that hoarse fruitcake (why is he always hoarse, by the way? Vaccines?) or his Playboy Bunny sidekick, Jenny McCarthy.

Vaccines are Useless

Jump… do you really think they’re after a “cure”? If Big Pharma introduced “cures” they would put themselves out of business. Come on. That’s pretty logical. It’s like finding an alternate source of energy – do you think BP or Exxon will come up with it? Makes no sense.

We’re not conspirists… we simply look beyond what we’re told to believe. That’s called critical thinking…something public education has tried its best to limit (and yes, I am a public school teacher).

In 2006, pediatric and adolescent vaccines in the seven major markets were worth approximately $4.3 billion, but thanks to new high-price vaccines promising significant health benefits, Datamonitor expects this figure to increase substantially, hitting over $16 billion by 2016.

drugresearcher.com – 2007 Kids Vaccine Market Set to Quadruple.

Look it up. And they make next to nothing? And as for the tuna sandwich theory…please research the difference between ethyl mercury and methyl mercury. BIG difference, and studies have been done.

I haven’t seen one post that asserts vaccines cause autism. We are simply raising the possibility that there are ingredients in these vaccines that are not good for us. If you’re willing to DRINK a concoction of formaldehyde, MSG, aluminum, mercury, and bovine serum (blood), let me know. Any takers on that? IF your doctor said, “bottoms up”, would you do it?

And why is Johnson and Johnson about to buy a vaccine company if there’s so few “clams” to be had??? Yeah, $15.5 billion sale. Happening now.

We’re not tin-foil wearing people. We simply choose to do our own research and think for ourselves. Why is that so threatening to you kool-aid drinking folks?

ConcernedParent

“If you’re willing to DRINK a concoction of formaldehyde, MSG, aluminum, mercury, and bovine serum (blood), let me know. Any takers on that? IF your doctor said, “bottoms up”, would you do it?”

Come on, Useless! Considering that all these ingredients in a shot add up to about a 1/8th teaspoon/1 drop, YES I WOULD.

Again, you proceed without medical authority for your assumptions or true critical thought on the issue…’it SOUNDS bad so I won’t do it.’ When your child contracts a fatal preventable disease because you won’t take off your tinfoil and listen to reason, I will not be so heartless as to say “I told you so”, for the true heartlessness is yours and has already been committed. You have an obligation to protect your child and society from Vaccine-Preventable Diseases.

JumpSwimSnipe

Sigh. This will be my only response because, sadly, Fangbeer you are one of those beyond hope, who will likely listen only to your own voice as you know everything:

You wrote: “They do have a very thin profit margin on vaccine production. It’s one of the reasons why there is such a push to make sure everyone in the country buys a shot. These reasons are two fold. One, it makes the production of the vaccine viable, and two it helps to reduce the cost the consumer must fork over for a dose…” Blah blah…

1. First premise: WRONG. Prove it. The “push” is to cure disease. Everyone who “buys a shot” improves the success rate. But OH NO! It must be an evil plot. Well even if true, it doesn’t work. These firms are barely afloat.
2. Second premise: Your pal, the GOVERNMENT is more than happy to spend money on disease control and buy a round for everyone. Some want to help people, some want to be reelected. Either way. It’s spit over Niagara Falls compared to other health care budget items.

Your entire $ argument: baseless, wrong. You are making sh-_ up. Again.

Next: You wrote: “Also, are you insinuating that you “pay 100 clams a month” to treat a VPD? Otherwise it has zero bearing on the discussion, does it?”

Wow. This nicely encapsulates your fallacious thinking. Most readers would pick up on the fact that I was arguing against the group psychosis that “Big Pharma” is to blame for all the world’s ills. In fact, by adding in the comment on the military industrial complex, I was further comparing the Big Pharma Vaccine Conspiracy with other common conspiracy theories spouting off by the same folks who believe that 911 was an inside job and we never landed on the moon. Anyone whose keyboard allows “Big Pharma” to come out of their keyboard already has a problem.

You should have just stuck to your first line there when you wrote: “You’re absolutely right.” That’s not true of course; not absolutely. But allowing reality to sink into my education has helped me get closer(to being “right”) than you. You really should try it. Get out some and experience the world outside. You come across as quite the isolated troglodyte.

Good luck

Fangbeer

Jumpswimsnipe:

My first premise is not wrong. It’s basic economics. Regardless, your response certainly doesn’t support your singular premise that the only motivation is the elimination of disease. For the purposes of the production of a seasonal vaccine, it’s not at all necessary that anyone receive the shot. All that is necessary is that someone pays for the shot.

Your response to my second premise only underscores the problems of regulator capture. If the government is willing to fork over 3 billion dollars to build a vaccine stockpile, you had better be damned sure that their motives go beyond getting elected next year, and that their interest is a little more involved than just wanting to help people.

You also said that you were arguing against a group psychosis that someone is to blame for all the worlds ills. On what planet does this group psychosis exist? Do you live there?

ConcernedParent

Fangbeer:

Fine. For the purposes of discussion, I concede that I went too far and overstated your position.

The onus of proof is still on you and your ilk: where is the influence? Where is the “regulatory capture”? Which Big Pharma Cronies are part of the AAP/CDC/FDA and are steering our vaccination policy in the US? And in what way is it being steered negatively? How are pharmaceutical companies influencing the AAP/CDC to put unnecessary vaccines into our kids?

If you’re going to even imply such, you’d better have facts to prove it. Not bare allegations and musings devoid of substance. Let’s have the proof…

Fangbeer

The proof is not on my “ilk” to show that vaccines aren’t always the appropriate method of infectious disease management. That’s not how science works. The proof is on those who develop a new vaccine to show its efficacy, safety, and appropriateness.

Your argument thus far has been “vaccines work, stupid.” It’s hardly been a very compelling argument that all vaccines and vaccination schedules work, are appropriate, and are safe. It’s hardly been a compelling argument that medical science has suddenly become devoid of flaw in the area of public safety. It’s hardly been a compelling argument that anyone should refrain from skepticism for the sake of the “herd.”

After all, every medical catastrophe in history came from a place of wanting to help people.

Also: You asked me to prove regulatory capture. This is not something that can be specifically proven without a public investigation. What I can do is show you a study that found during the period 2001 – 2004 28% of the 3000 FDA advisory committee members disclosed financial ties within the previous year to pharmaceutical companies whose products were under consideration or to competitors of those companies. That means more then a quarter of them have a direct financial interest in the success or failure of any given product.

Are you okay with that?

ConcernedParent

“Am I Ok with that” you ask? Without more info, I can’t say. How much $ did these folks actually make from their financial ties? What are the nature of the ties – direct stock in PharmaCo or a generic HC fund in a 401k? More to the point, how many of the financial ties in question are directly linked to vaccine manufacture & approval? (And what of your concession in this debate that PharmaCo’s actually make very little from vaccines – thus, these FDA members with financial stakes make very little if any from the ties, and less of a reason to lie?)

You have an obligation to think through your implications to their logical conclusions, otherwise it’s just irresponsible argument. If what you are saying is true, I have to believe everyone involved has malfeasance and malevolence in their hearts – from the MD who creates the vaccine, to the PharmaCo and its employees who make it, to the Ped who injects it. Put simply, you just can’t lob a generic “Collusion! Corruption!” argument without offering specific facts of the who, what, when, where, why – doing so just breeds mistrust and fans the flames of irrational fear. For me, I choose to err on the side of trust – trust in the MD who wants to stop an infant suffering and finds a cure for the disease, trust in the PharmaCo who wants to make the cure available for all, trust in my Ped who has likely seen what happens when children remain unvaccinated and get critically ill. I commend to you Cynthia Cristofani’s interview on PBS. http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/vaccines/interviews/cristofani.html

JumpSwimSnipe

Oh yes- Whooping Cough vaccines – it is all a big conspiracy by Big Pharma. That’s right, those companies that make ALMOST NOTHING on vaccine production! Trust me, they’d rather be making the next Viagara. No wonder so many have gone out of business and so few are still producers of vaccines And yes, this is the same “Big Pharma” that spends billions researching cures for diseases and that has lengthened the life expectancy of us all. If it wasn’t for Big Pharma I’d be dead right now. I pay 100 clams a month for one of my medicines. It’s hard for me to afford it, but SH…I would pay for it if it was $500. Or more. (BTW, washin my hands isn’t going to cure me, moonbats.)

You people who know a lot of facts, but miss the big picture scare me. You are what is wrong with this country. Maybe you should go to medical school and learn the history of disease control and study Epidemiology (and 5 or 6 THOUSAND studies) before you go spouting off like you know everything. You see two studies and you know it all. You probably think that Autism is caused by vaccines and that the “Military Industrial Complex” is what runs the world. (I think it saved my a– in Afghanistan thank-you-very-much.)

Very few vaccines still have mercury in them them and the ones that do have less than a tuna fish sandwich. BFD man.

Know what. Trust no one. That way you will always know what’s best.

ConcernedParent

Amen brother. Finally someone on here who’s not wearing a tinfoil hat!!!
Fangbeer

You’re absolutely right. They do have a very thin profit margin on vaccine production. It’s one of the reasons why there is such a push to make sure everyone in the country buys a shot. These reasons are two fold. One, it makes the production of the vaccine viable, and two it helps to reduce the cost the consumer must fork over for a dose. Of course, the profit margin of the product has nothing to do with the efficacy of the product, or the model that we currently employ to protect our children from infectious disease.

Also, are you insinuating that you “pay 100 clams a month” to treat a VPD? Otherwise it has zero bearing on the discussion, does it?
Vaccines are Useless

Jump,

In 2006, pediatric and adolescent vaccines in the seven major markets were worth approximately $4.3 billion, but thanks to new high-price vaccines promising significant health benefits, Datamonitor expects this figure to increase substantially, hitting over $16 billion by 2016.

drugresearcher.com – 2007 Kids Vaccine Market Set to Quadruple.

Look it up. And they make next to nothing? And as for the tuna sandwich theory…please research the difference between ethyl mercury and methyl mercury. BIG difference, and studies have been done.

I haven’t seen one post that asserts vaccines cause autism. We are simply raising the possibility that there are ingredients in these vaccines that are not good for us. If you’re willing to DRINK a concoction of formaldehyde, MSG, aluminum, mercury, and bovine serum (blood), let me know. Any takers on that? IF your doctor said, “bottoms up”, would you do it?

And why is Johnson and Johnson about to buy a vaccine company if there’s so few “clams” to be had??? Yeah, $15.5 billion sale. Happening now.

We’re not tin-foil wearing people. We simply choose to do our own research and think for ourselves. Why is that so threatening to you kool-aid drinking folks?

Jane

Martha: Sounds like you’re a real health nut. Are you on the birth control pill? Do you know of the connection between bc pills and blood clots in the lungs? They are a serious problem for young women in their twenties. I’m sure that you’ll want to jump right on that deadly epidemic, especially since doctors routinely misinform patients about risks of the pill. Not a chic cause though so maybe you only want to get your knickers in a twist about vaccines. There’s a lot of hypocrites out there who are hostile to medical professionals, but only in certain areas. If they put you on the pill or want to sterilize you, they’re great.
Vaccines are Useless

http://www.fourteenstudies.org/HG_8_details.html

The denmark study author embezzled millions of dollars from the CDC and ran 2 studies simulatneously – unethical. This data is also bogus, because the author basically tried to compare autism rates in Sunnyvale, CA to autism rates in ALL of CA. Not percentages, raw numbers. If you read the study, you’ll see what I mean. He broadened the scope of the study after it was already underway.

I do not have a societal responsibility to inject my children with known toxins, be it formaldehyde, mercury, aluminum, polysorbate 80, MSG, porcine viruses, bovine DNA, or anything else. It is my job to protect my children from people like you who want to sacrifice some for the good of all. Not my child. Not EVER.

Also, check out the graph Jason posted. Most diseases were irradicated simply through improved hygeine, long before vaccines were introduced.

ConcernedParent

We can do this all day.

1. Fourteen Studies is part of “Generation Rescue” – Jenny McCarthy’s pet project. She used to say “vaccines cause autism” now since there’s no evidence to support that, she now says “vaccines cause something – I don’t know what, I don’t know how, but they cause something.” Keep moving the goal posts, Jenny – you’ll find something, someday. As a former Playboy Bunny, she prob even had a few romps with Perv Hugh Hefner back in the day – a credible source?? Hardly.

2. Remove mercury from your list. It’s been out since 1992.

3. When you are sick of hearing stories like these, let me know. http://www.vaccineinformation.org/pertuss/cases.asp
http://www.vaccineinformation.org/diphther/cases.asp
http://www.vaccineinformation.org/hib/cases.asp

4. You say known toxins like “formaldehyde, … aluminum, polysorbate 80, MSG, porcine viruses, bovine DNA, or anything else.” You get more aluminum in the turkey sandwich you had for lunch, more MSG in that Cashew Chicken you’ll eat for dinner, than what’s in 10 shots. Even Dr. Sears says these ingredients are not harmful!

5. When are people going to give other people the benefit of the doubt, and not think that “Everyone’s out to get me, my money, and my child”. Yes, it’s all a HUGE conspiracy, everyone’s a thief and liar, Big Pharma and your Ped really need your $25 copay, they’ll starve without it! Are you listening to yourself?

6. Watch the Vaccine War – the 50 yr old bioethics prof contracted polio right before the vaccine came out, and suffered NEEDLESSLY in the hospital for a month. Tell him “Vaccines are Useless” why don’t you. I dare you in fact. See what he says.

Vaccines are Useless

If you’re unwilling to discount studies conducted by docs paid by the pharmaceutical companies, then you cannot discount Fourteen Studies for being part of McCarthy’s. That’s a double standard.

2. You are misinformed on mercury. Go to the CDC’s website, the “pink book” and it will list the vaccines that still have mercury in them, either as an actual ingredient or in trace amounts through processing.

3. Listen, it doesn’t matter if 100% of people are vaccinated, unhealthy people who live on GMO’s, aspartame, and other unhealthy foods are going to die of illness. Our health begins with the shopping cart, not with the needle.

4. I do not eat MSG. I read labels and eat organically and locally. My family does not eat processed foods, including lunch meat. Sorry… you didn’t get me there. And again, if you TRULY understood what each of these ingredients represented, you’d stay as far away as possible. Polysorbate 80 is linked heavily to infertility.

5. Give the benefit of the doubt to WHOM, exactly? The Danish study’s author that has embezzled US tax money? $2M? The doctors that say they’re looking out for you while getting paid to represent drugs from Merck, etc.? Isn’t that an inherent conflict of interest?

6. For the 3rd time, I’ve seen it. Their propoganda doesn’t scare me. You have yet to address the graphic charts showing that all diseases were on the decline before vaccines ever arrived. You haven’t addressed the profit motive, which I have clearly proven through previous links. You haven’t addressed the ULTIMATE issue, which is… no one, not one person on this earth can force me to inject something into my or my child’s body without my consent. That is called individual liberty and it’s what makes America what it is. I will never wilt in the face of such blatant social pressure to “follow the herd”…even if it’s right off a cliff.

As for polio, do your own research, read books. There is a great one out about the polio vaccine and its contamination with SV40. The gov’t did not recall the vaccines, even after they knew about it. That virus has now been found in the brains and bones of people who died from cancer. The Rotovirus vaccine was pulled RECENTLY for the same issue. So I am supposed to give these people – who want to shoot stuff into my kid, wait 30 years and THEN say… OOPS. Our bad, and by the way, you can’t sue the drug maker or the gov’t for your problems because you can’t prove it.

By all means, take every vaccine I’m passing up. I will enjoy good health and not become a chronic, lifetime customer of Big Pharma. I do not think any less of you for your views. The problem is, you can’t return the same courtesy.

Fangbeer

It’s nice that you didn’t let not being able to understand what I wrote stop you from commenting.

ConcernedParent

No, I I think I got it actually, unfortunately it takes me several readings to cut through sheer crud, but let’s recap your position:

1. Vaccines don’t work.
2. Vaccines poison our kids, must cause autism, must cause ______ (fill in blank with desired disease here).
3. Vaccine makers care only about profits, even if babies die.
4. Vaccine inventors (like the EVIL head of Pediatrics at UPenn’s Med Ctr who co-developed the Rotavirus infant vaccine) are only in it for the money and in fact hate infants.
5. The AAP and CDC (who came up with the schedule and which are NOT regulatory agencies by the way; one is a voluntary prof. association of Ped’s! Do you know which one?) are just “stacked” with EVIL Big Pharma cronies.
6. Herd immunity is a myth propagated by EVIL Big Pharma.

That about sum it up, Fangbeer? Did I miss any? Let me know…

Fangbeer

Are these comments currently being moderated, or are my posts just being eaten by the wordpress engine?
Fangbeer

ConcernedParent:

A strawman is a device that people use in an argument when they cannot rebut the things that their opponents actually say.

If you dispute that you created a massive strawman, could you please quote the part of my posts that said anything about evil rich corporate fatcats? I’d also like a citation about “going back to the 1800′s” and anything that I’ve said about “Big Pharma.”

Your entire list of things you think I have said is culled from some fantasy person that you invented in your head. I didn’t say that vaccines don’t work. I said they aren’t 100% effective. Ironically, I was responding to someone claiming to be an MD who said exactly the same thing. I didn’t say they are poisoning our kids or that they cause autism. I said that some people feel the risks are overshadowed by the benefits. I didn’t say that vaccine makers only care about profits. I said that regulators can be influenced by the industries that they regulate.
Fangbeer

I’m not going to go through each one. I’ll just sum up. You’ve obviously pictured some big monster in your head that has all these extreme positions that it takes and you’ve cast me in the monster suit. Saying that regulators can be influenced by industry does not equate to saying that vaccine makers want to kill kids or that they only care about profits. In fact, it’s completely illogical and irrational to leap to such a conclusion. It is completely logical to be concerned when the supposition is that the health of our nation hinges on the quality and efficacy of a product of a single supplier.

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