N.J. Town To Vote On Middle School Drug Tests

6th, 7th & 8th Graders May Soon Be Treated Like High Schoolers

BELVIDERE, N.J. (CBS 2) —  A proposal to conduct random drug tests of young students in one New Jersey town is raising some eyebrows.

Students at Belvidere Elementary School could be adding drug testing to their list of lessons when they move into middle school.

The Board of Education will vote Wednesday on a plan to randomly test sixth, seventh and eighth graders to see if they are under the influence of drugs. School administrators said they were confident the proposal would pass.

Elementary School Principal Sandra Szabocsik said school officials want to use the testing “as a deterrent.”

“We’re hoping that the students if they’re at say a party or someone’s house or just hanging out somewhere, that they’ll say ‘I don’t want to get involved in drinking or using any drug because tomorrow could be a drug testing day,'” she told CBS 2’s Christine Sloan.

The program is voluntary and both parents and students must consent. School officials said it was important to note that if a student tested positive, they would not be suspended or have the results sent to the police.

Instead, those students would get counseling or even be referred to a rehab facility.

A number of parents and students in the close-knit town said they would be signing up for the testing.

“It takes the pressure off of them that they have an easy out to say ‘no. No I don’t want to do this, I’m afraid I’ll be tested,'” parent and teacher Noelle Kornegay said.

Drug testing is currently mandatory at Belvidere High School for students who park on campus, join clubs or participate in athletics.

“It’s been working well in the sense that parents and students understand the choices they make and are able to make better ones,” high school assistant principal Joe Flynn said.

“I don’t think it’s to really punish kids as much as to let them realize what they’re doing and the effects it has on their life,” sophomore Jim Debenedetto said.

The district said it wants to convey a similar message to its students — that the tests are not about punishment, but about getting help to those who may be experimenting with drugs.


One Comment

  1. Odins Acolyte says:

    This is wrong.

  2. natasha says:

    What a nanny state. Perhaps they should just take the kids so all the parents have to worry about it the first 10-11 years or so. Leave those difficult tween years to the well thought out, union run, bureaucratic system that has served it’s students so well in the past.

  3. Al says:

    What a warped society! A twelve year old kid needs an ‘easy out’ to not feel the ‘pressure’ to take drugs? That’s crazy talk! I guess developmentally stunted parents who grew up feeding on liberal pabulum see nothing abnormal about this gross governmental intrusion into family life.

    Perhaps the parents should be tested for parental responsibility; those who fail the test would have their children yanked from the home and placed in reeducation centers to be raised by government professionals.

    God help this nation!

  4. Ted says:

    They also need to test the teachers and school administrators – something isn’t right

  5. David says:

    Just a process question here. When these children are asked to have this urine test, will they be observed urinating into the cup like adults who are on probation? How do parents and children feel about being forced to expose the children’s pubescent genitals? Does a school board, in any state, have the legal authority to mandate that children expose their genitals to school officials? Does it matter that the school employee is a nurse’s aide or a nurse? Or will it be the principal? What if the school nurse is a male observing female students? So should it be okay for a female nurse to observe a male child peeing into a cup? There was a court case next door in Pennsylvania about forced genital exams for a required school physical, and I think it came out that the school had overstepped its authority, but have times changed? Is it okay to force children to expose their genitals? Or is it just okay for boys? or for girls?

    1. wtvfh says:

      Maybe they can have Catholic priests administer the tests. They are all pure and virtuous and celibate.

      1. Steve says:

        They have a far lower rate of abuse than public school system employees, that’s for sure. But we don’t expect any problems with public school employees because they can be married, which is the universal cure for perversion, right?

    2. Krynn says:

      Actually, from remembering said drug tests in schools myself, they don’t have anyone watch you at all. They just give you the cup, put you in the bathroom one at a time, and wait for you to come out.

  6. Rick Daniels says:

    Parents, pay attention. When my kids were preparing to go to middle school, I checked and 84 middle-schoolers were ‘knocked-up’ the previous year. So middle school is NOT all milk & cookies.

  7. everettknag says:

    PLEASE DO THIS! this way they can stop children from ruining their lives at such a young age! i know that at my school about 25% of the kids do/did drugs in middle school! if they had these tests than they would prob not have done so and would be getting help if they did!

  8. tkonte says:


  9. Chris says:

    Good idea but it won`t work because ultimately black kids will claim they are being singled out.

    1. David says:

      No black kids in that part of NJ

  10. woodchuck says:

    Parents, if you love your children, you will not send them to public school.

    1. Rick Daniels says:

      So they could grow up blind like their tree-hugging, dope smoking parents?

      1. woodchuck says:

        No, so that they might learn things such as how to identify the fallacy of the excluded middle, or a strawman argument.

    2. Rowwdy says:

      Amen to that. My children will NEVER attend a public school.

  11. Bob StrongBear says:

    If you are going to do that, then start at THE VERY TOP, then let’s test all the Senators and Congressman. Heck, we know that they wouldn’t cheat on the test. After all, you can TRUST the Government-JUST ASK ANY AMERICAN INDIAN!

    1. Charles U. Farley says:

      Big 10-4, chief! Not to mention ALL teachers, counsellors, and ADMINISTRATORS.

  12. Janet says:

    When will people wake up? The government public schools/unions/US Dept of Education CAUSE THE PROBLEMS (drug/drop outs/promiscuity) via the Hegelian Dialectic Method of Brainwashing and socio-psycho mind altering elmination of Virtues/Values taught by parents to the point of utter confusion in our childrens’ minds, hearts and souls….driving them to drop out, become promiscuous at such tender ages, and druggies in order to just cope with the mind confusion caused by the Unions’ Change Agent Teachers who are “useful idiiots” to their Socialist dictators. Then they they rush in to supposedly end the manufactured crises with more controls….and stupid parents willingly give the control over to the schools/socialists without realizing what the heck they’re doing. WAKE UP PARENTS….THEY’RE STEALING YOUR KIDS AND OUR COUNTRY AND OUR GOD AND RUINING THEM ALL (except God–He can’t be ruined—but eliminated by sleeping parents). Get your kids out of them one way or another.

  13. Dennis says:

    While we are at it.How bout random polygraph tests also.We can ask them questions like.Do you plan on harming anyone today or harming yourself? That way we can head them off at the pass so to speak.You have got to be freakin kiddin me.This is a terrible idea no matter how good the intentions.Can you say THOUGHT POLICE next.

  14. conservadiva says:

    The school says, it is voluntary, so parents and kids must sign up together. Obviously, it is for parents who do not trust their kids choices. Obviously, it is for parents who have no control over their children and are desperate for some sort of outside control. When the people give up on exercising self control, and cannot teach that to their children, then they will relinquish their freedoms, so that an authoritarian system can take over. It is a friendly police state in disguise. I do not doubt the good intentions of the school, but they are blind to the fact that they are reaching for a deadly cure. Here is a challenge: Start encouraging parents to take their young, elementary aged children to church and attend along with them. Then see if the need for this program suddenly fades away. But you already know that public school administrations are not allowed to encourage the spiritual growth of their students. Parents today live in the dark, never realizing how much the desired character qualities of honesty, integrity, good manners, respect of peers, respect for adults, a work ethic, and responsibility, are all part of a child’s spiritual makeup. When you neglect a child’s soul, a child cannot govern themselves rightly. An authoritarian nanny state must take them over. This is a very good example of that result.

    1. Moment of Clarity says:

      another case of the parents handing the responsibilities of parenting to the schools – no wonder we are progressing towards socialism (or worse!) – no-one wants to be responsible for anything anymore

  15. julia says:

    This is just a way for them to start treating kids like criminals early to prepare them for jobs where drug-testing is mandatory like at walmart, fast food joints, or as an inmate at the state pen.

    Why can’t these brain-dead educators figure out that there’s a direct correlation between stress and the motivation of kids to try drugs & alcohol? A kid that’s happy in their home life, and confident with their school work, isn’t going to turn to contraband for escape. The best deterrent for drugs is giving our kids a safe place to learn without constantly being treated like the under-class or deemed as suspects, just because of their age.

  16. gordonwagner says:

    Drug testing is a direct violation of the 4th Amendment. I appreciate that middle school is all about learning to live with control and repression, but this is an absurd notion.

  17. Dave says:

    New Jersey is broke. whom is going to be conducting the testing?
    Where will the results be stored and for how long. Wwhom will have access to those results and will the police be calle din when a test is positive?

    Big Brother keeps marching on.

  18. Freddyc says:

    The real drug dealers are the teachers who, untrained, are the ones who diagnose a child with ADD or ADHD and the school psychologists who agree with the diagnoses just to keep their jobs. Teachers nowadays, mostly young ones don’t know how to discipline themselves or their own kids, much less have the training or ability to recognize a behavioral disorder. If left to them, 100% of our youth would be on Big Pharma’s drugs.

    1. marbee says:

      ALL TRUE!

  19. Robert says:

    This is ridiculous. I would immediatley remove my child from this school. Everyone should contest this and remove all those on the board that would even consider this. No parent should allow this type of intrusion to occur

  20. Freddyc says:

    Any principal or teacher caught buying cigarettes or alcohol should be fired immediately. After all, those are bad examples for kids.

    1. marbee says:

      Well, they are NOT kids and are allowed to act like adults under the United States Constitution. This demonization of smoking must stop! Anti-tobacco anti-smoking proponents spend obscene amounts of money demonizing smoking like the nazi’s did. This has created hatred against an entire segment of society. The surgeon general based the ideology of toxic smoke on an EPA report that was ruled on as fraudulent by a federal judge. The surgeon generals report is then also fraudulent. The surgeon general did not have to testify under oath to the validity of his claim. If you tell a lie enough, people will eventually fall for it. Pharma pushes their treatments for everything from smoking to being overweight and protects pharmaceutical companies by attacking natural, non-patentable, non-pharmaceutical forms of cancer treatment and spend billions influencing legislators into making laws that benefits pharma. Smoking bans and french fries come to mind? Pharma owns the market on alternative nicotine, Splenda, and bariatric surgery. It’s nothing but a brilliant marketing scam, and people run around in circles thinking they are making a difference. They are, to the pockets of the executives and big government!

    2. KPMc says:

      But…they’re legal. The tests are for ILLEGAL drugs.

  21. HankB says:

    Isn’t it interesting how these proposals for random school drug testing never include faculty and administrators? Why don’t they lead by example? Back when I was in school, THAT would have been EVERY student’s response to this proposal . . . and beyond that, we simply would have refused to comply. And if someone were to be thrown off a team for refusing, the entire team would have sat down on the bench at the next game and refused to take the field. (They did that once when the coach benched two starters for no good reason – caused a BIG stink. Tickets sold. Busses chartered. Money at stake.) We recognized legitimate authority, but we also knew, and practiced, nonviolent noncompliance when school officials overstepped. Kids these days are too docile . . .

  22. illogicbuster says:

    This is a stupid idea considering that 25% of school children are given mind altering drugs by doctors…

  23. Bud says:

    Can you say we live life in fear? As a Christian taught in the ways of the Bible, Jesus states Fear comes from the Devil and not from God. So who really is running this Town the Fearful or those that love to help and teach their children to make the right choices that will tempted in front of them through their lives! Our society will die under the raine of the Devil, so please ppl keep fearing on!

    1. Bud says:

      The word of Saul or as Jesus called him Paul when he changed his ways.
      Philippians 3:18 I have told you those things many times before. Now I say it again with tears in my eyes. Many people live like enemies of Christ. 19 The only thing they have coming to them is death. Their stomach is their god. They brag about what they should be ashamed of. They think only about earthly things.
      (The only thing we recieve from Evil is Death welcome to Gods divine plan and universe where all things in time will be set right)

  24. js says:

    what a joke…these ppl have no clue…give up your constitutional rights and those of your children…i promise they wont tell the cops….(yar har har and a bottle o’rum, eh?)…(its unethical to catch the kids that are doing drugs and NOT turn em over, ask a judge)…a parents mandate is to protect thier children…you do that by educating them…not fostering rebellion….through fear…time and time again…these fear induced behavior modifications fail…its not gonna change tomorrow after its failed over the last 50 years…wake up

  25. rank says:

    I find this amazing. Try doing this to people applying for, or that are on welfare, and the ACLU jumps all over this. It is apparently against the law for welfare persons in many states.

  26. Tony says:

    No offense people, but when I was in 6th, 7th, and 8th grade, we were into sex, drugs and rock and roll. The way the world is today, I think it’s a good idea… as long as they don’t get excessive with it.

    1. marbee says:

      No offense, but we are also no worse for wear because of it! Kids today can’t make mistakes and learn from them. Kids today need protection from the law, they’ll never get a slap on the wrist, they get their lives torn apart from the nanny state. You give the nanny state an inch and they will take a mile because you LET them do it!

  27. Tim says:

    If you treat them like prisoners, don’t be surprised when they act like prisoners.

  28. Lady says:

    “The program is voluntary and both parents and students must consent.”

    Do they expect a lot of students to voluntarily sign up for random drug testing? If not everyone has to test, why would a student subject themselves to it weather or not they are doing drugs? I mean I love to volunteer to pee in a cup while an authority figure stands over me and watches as much as the next guy, but I don’t think the school will have many student volunteers. I know high school would have been so much better if I could have volunteered to be singled out and drug tested, what fun!

  29. Muggsy says:

    And if your child returns a false positive, or was near someone getting high on a bus and it shows up..Imagine. THEN…one day you will all be shocked to find that some computer site with information has been compromised…sent into a government database “in the countries BEST interests” And a 12 year olds life will have been compromised as well. Line up sheep…President Eisenhower was right on the money in his farewell speech. Google Marvin Bush…..the missing Bush brother…see what his company did up till Sept 10, 2001….and THINK about it, you media controlled mindless fools!.. The “terrorists” won…Americans have lost their freedom…and it wasn’t to Muslim extremists. God DID bless America…until the government decided it could do a better job…and even kicked him out of our schools. So sit there and watch your reality TV Shows…they were created to feed a primal urge to watch a train wreck or plane crash in slow motion. You are also watching this country crash the same way…and you wont life a finger to stop it, lest ye wind up on a list…. Control the internet…burn books…its for your own good. You want to drug test someone?? DRUG TEST THE POLICE FOR STEROIDS…and see what you have left….Fools!

    1. greg says:

      YOU ARE SO RIGHT ……… I applaud everything you said .. could not have said it better my self.. thanks for the wonderful comment … this is the truth people…

    2. KPMc says:

      You think standing near someone getting high on a bus will result in a positive test? That alone makes everything you say that follows irrelevant. You are clueless and using a ludicrous argument to begin with.

      1. Rowwdy says:

        Not heard of 2nd hand smoke there KP? There are a number of legal, prescription medications that also give false positives. Me thinks, you are the clueless one.

    3. True Patriot says:

      And what the hell are you doing about it? Badmouthing people on a news discussion? Walk the walk…. typical.

  30. American.Dude61 says:


    McCarthyism taught early must be nipped in the bud and those complicit in this malarkey SHAMED, SUED, AND FIRED.

  31. Martien says:

    Great idea, drug testing should be done nation wide starting at the age of 10, drug and alcohol free should be a condition of employment or access to schools.

    I dont like big brother as much as the next guy how ever drugs and alcohol has proven to be a huge problem in this country costing thousands of lives and billions of dollars each year so in this case big brother is required.

    We cant count on parents to do drug test their own kids most parents are in total denial their kids could be drinking or doing drugs I have been witness to this many times talk to any drug or family consular

    The benefits of doing it at school also teaches children to be responsible humans and also teaches them what to expect when they get into the real world random drug testing in the work place is on the increase and will double in the next 10 years.

    1. Regulas says:

      Please move to Cuba you communist hack.

    2. Burr Williams says:

      Martien, go back to the red planet of Mars. You’re a Commi Pinko Mouron.

    3. Josh Carter says:

      “drugs and alcohol has proven to be a huge problem in this country costing thousands of lives and billions of dollars each year so in this case big brother is required.”

      yes, but only because they are illegal to begin with. there is no evidence to show that substance prohibition works in any form. instead, it simply serves as an excuse for “big brother” initiatives such as this.

      government can’t make people better people, it simply doesn’t work like that.

    4. greg says:

      martien is an idiot………….enough said about his stupid comment..

  32. Randy says:

    just get it over with and make it manditory of every single person in the US to start drug testing at age 10. Make it part of the mandatory government health care system. retional, the more info they have on you the better they can serve.

    1. Regulas says:

      You have to be kidding or a Communist, which is it!

  33. Legal Pot User says:

    Drugs are fun kids.

    Don’t let stupid people blame drugs for the ignorant things they do while on them.

  34. David says:

    Parents parent. Schools teach. Correctional facilities punish and cops police.

    is this formula HAAAAAADDDD 4 u?


    To the liberal progressive democrats, “The ends justifies the means” .
    What the hell happened to the 4th Amendment???
    HUGS are better than DRUGS!
    How bout each teacher give each kid a big hug everyday before class and an admonition to stay drug free?
    Don’t take these kids rights away . . . . in fact, don’t even hint that you can by this evil premise.

  36. Robert Gnarra says:

    Does the teachers’ union allow testing?

  37. OL says:

    Why not mental health tests for 22 year olds?

    1. restore America says:

      king george 2 wanted mental health testing for all Amoricans. If the power hungry fed government claims a person has a mental “disorder”, his or her God given, Constitutionally protected rights can be abrogated by the government. End run to abolish most of our rights. After all, the big gov. politicians believe that we all have mental disorders, when in fact, it is they who suffer from mental illness.

  38. Jon24 says:

    If drugs are soooo bad, then how come Obama admitted taking and selling drugs in collage and still was elected President? DUH!

    1. American.dude61 says:

      It is spelled…………..COLLEGE……..DUH

      1. Jon24 says:

        Ouch, my error! Maybe I should be doing drugs!

  39. KT says:

    All Govert emloyees should be random tested !

    1. JLBS says:


  40. Rishi Oberoi says:

    “We’re hoping that the students if they’re at say a party or someone’s house or just hanging out somewhere, that they’ll say ‘I don’t want to get involved in drinking or using any drug because tomorrow could be a drug testing day,’”

    This is the worst possible reason to not do drugs. i’m not saying that this drug testing policy is necessary but why kind of world do we live in if the only reason not to do something is fear of the consequences. I don’t smoke crack because I know it’s bad for you and will kill you, not because im worried about it showing up in a drug test

    1. David says:

      Dude what are you talking about. That premise has kept teh christian and muslim faiths around for centuries.

      Don’t do this or you’ll go to hell.

  41. Thomas James Sanders says:

    Elementary School Principal Sandra Szabocsik said school officials want to use the testing “as a deterrent.”

    “We’re hoping that the students if they’re at say a party or someone’s house or just hanging out somewhere, that they’ll say ‘I don’t want to get involved in drinking or using any drug because tomorrow could be a drug testing day,’”

    Well under this logic they should start stabbing the ones that don’t do there homework, so the rest well say “I’m going to do my home work so I don’t get stabbed.”

    Does this metaphor for fear mongering work for you or should I dumb it down for your New Jersey learn’in?

  42. D says:

    This is where the attitude “think of the children” has taken our society. This is ridiculous. Middle School should not resemble a George Orwell novel. How about do some parenting? Is it really that hard? I mean seriously? Would it kill you to parent your own kids for once?

  43. Maggy says:

    Parents ……JUST SAY NO TO DRUG TESTING!!!!! They are not doing it to “help” the kids they will ruin thier lives ,label them,watch them, force them to a B.S. drug program where they meet real drug addicts,oh and the school and police legally can work together to prevent i.e. punish and impune them…..Tell the schools NOTHING, what will they do with the info????Most educators in public schools have no real life experience so any little thing they find on your kids is mishandled at the least and usually hurts the kid AND the family…..also did you ever listen to a bunch of teachers talk about a kid???? Its rarely positive and just gossip to them. Say no to any craZy request for them to have more control over YOUR CHILDREN …..only you as the parent know what to do because you love and want to help your kids…..Keep them away ,far away from teachers and other nitwits that DO not care ….SAY NO!!!!

    1. David says:

      Lets not forget who pays for the testing progeram thats right your property and school ltaxes..yeah for finding a new way to spend you tax money! oh what do you mena Mr’ congressman…we didnt have money ear marked for the program ….what you have to raise taxes…

  44. Lalita says:

    NO WAY! Children are not guinea pigs.

  45. svenster says:

    Why don’t they make people living off of gov’t subsistence take random drug tests?

    1. David says:

      Amen.. I’d like to see the jokers using their well fare checks to gamble drug tested.

      Just like if they had a job.

  46. J5 says:

    This is why my kids will go to private school. I will not have them go to one of these police state indoctrination centers where the primary concern of the school board is teaching obedience. There can be no real learning in such an environment.

  47. JohnF says:

    Schools should concentrate on providing the opportunity to learn math, science, English, civics, history, geography, history, and such successfully. They are not responsible for teaching moral behaviors.

    If this was a private school, parents could choose to send them and get the testing. But it’s not.

    Stick to the basics. You are not even getting those right.

  48. hedge says:

    God made the Idiot for practice, and then He made the School Board.
    Mark Twain

  49. RigidPrinciples says:

    How about mandatory breast exams ? These school girls are causing excessive health care costs by not getting their breasts examined regularly. Maybe they can expand the TSA to include school security / breast exams ?

  50. Nemisis says:

    Stupid school board. Drug testing is based on the assumption/suspicion that something illegal is going on.
    These same thought processes are what has driven this country in the ground. It is the same thought process that moves the USA closer to socialism.
    Wether you agree or disagree, drug testing is not a deterent to drug abuse and should never be used in a situation as preventative.
    Idiots in NJ think they know it all.

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