L.I. Lawmaker: Flying Ice Should Be A Crime

NEW YORK (CBS 2 / WCBS 880) — The snow is gone but the after-effects of the storm were still being felt Thursday.

LINKS: Traffic & Transit | Photos: Tri-State Snowstorm Jan. 12

Drivers, especially on Long Island, were being told to beware of slick and dangerous roadways a day after a snowstorm dumped up to a foot of snow across parts of the Tri-State area.

WCBS 880 Long Island Bureau Chief Mike Xirinachs reports from Selden

An SUV is seen next to a snow mound - Selden, NY - Jan 13, 2011 - Photo: Mike Xirinachs / WCBS 880

An SUV is seen next to a snow mound - Selden, NY - Jan 13, 2011 - Photo: Mike Xirinachs / WCBS 880

Salt and plow truck drivers met the first challenge of clearing a path in Suffolk County but now that black top is visible there’s a new concern — black ice.

On the Long Island Expressway, the message is clear: “caution” the “road is icing” over.

The dangerous road conditions prompted delayed school openings in several districts, including Bridgehampton and Quogue, where classes were to begin two hours late Thursday morning.

A lawmaker on Long Island says drivers who leave huge chunks of snow and ice on their vehicles after a snowstorm should be subject to a ticket by the police.

Suffolk County Legislator Jon Cooper has proposed a bill to require drivers clear their vehicles. He says five other states, including Connecticut and New Jersey, have such laws. He hopes enacting the law in Suffolk County will inspire state lawmakers to follow suit.

Fines for those who fail to clear their vehicles would start at $75. They could rise to as much as $1,500 if the flying snow and ice causes an accident that injures people.
Cooper says his priority is not to collect fines, but to keep people safe. The proposal will be taken up by the county legislature next month.

There are still piles of snow everywhere and not just on roadways but also in front of homes. Residents of hard-hit areas of Suffolk County struggled to get their driveways and sidewalks cleared.

The official snow total in Centereach was 17 inches but Karen Lachiana said it looked like more.

“When you say 17 what’s another 7 or 8,” Lachiana said.

Hector Morales, of Centereach, was left with an unwelcome present for his 52nd birthday from road crews — a day’s work to clear his driveway. again.

“I knew they were gonna do that because there was a car here on the road and then the plow came and brought it back,” Morales said.

Suffolk County declined New York City’s offer of snow plows to help the Long Island county dig out from the most recent storm. Spokesman Mark Smith says the county is grateful for the “magnanimous offer.” But he says the city’s assistance won’t be needed because “the county roads are in great shape.”

In New York City, the sanitation department expects to complete snow cleanup today and resume garbage pickup on Friday.

WCBS 880’s Rich Lamb reports

Meanwhile, Connecticut was also digging out of a heavy snowfall Thursday. At least two feet of snow fell in Fairfield County.

WCBS 880’s Paul Murnane reports from Ridgefield

Some cars ended up in ditches, especially during the height of the store in the early hours of Wednesday. Many drivers had trouble getting traction in the deep drifts but by last nights roads were in much better shape. Even so, several schools in Fairfield County will be closed again Thursday.

  • Less_Government

    If Mr. Cooper is so concerned, why hasn’t he already made this a policy for government vehicles? I saw three mail trucks the day after the storm and none of them had cleared the snow off their roofs.

    Aren’t trucks, being higher and holding more snow, more dangerous than cars?

    I don’t understand why we’re being micromanaged by government, but, the rules don’t apply to them.

  • SkipM

    In whatever bill might be suggested, there needs to be a “reasonable effort” clause, otherwise .GOV is going to start fining people for molecules of ice coming off their car as an extra revenue source. I also don’t need to be chipping the paint job on my vehicle just to get ice off that’s going to melt & slide off when the engine gets warm. People, we can’t avoid all hazards. Stop creating petty legislation for each risk…

    • angry

      admit it.. u r just one of those lazy fat ass who just cant clean snow off ur car.. jerk

  • Pi$$ed Off Long Islander

    I love going in front of the lazy a$$ drivers that don’t clear the snow off the roof of their cars and I step on my brakes so that when they stop, the snow slides onto their windshield and hood. What a blast… But beware drivers, I don’t take too kindly when your snow and ice flies off into my windshield if I am behind you. There really is no safe distance unless you’re a half mile behind. The town should also fine the idiots that push their snow back into the street after the plows have come through. This is real good for drivers to hit and send them sliding. Then it freezes into big lumps of ice in the road too. People are just rude, inconsiderate, oblivious and stupid…

  • Clinton

    It’s reasonable to fine a driver who is driving on the road without clearing his cars.

    But it’s ridiculous to write a ticket on a parked car. When is the ‘after a storm’? One minute, one hour, or one day? Everybody might find there is a ticket on his car in the morning after a storm if the ticket guys work really hard. That’s an easy way to resolve budget problems.

  • Abe Benesch

    I remember about 15 years ago in New Jersey, a motorist was killed when a giant sheet of ice flew off the top of a tractor trailer, went thru his windshield, and killed him. This started the move in NJ to get people to clear their cars before driving. To this day, the driver of that truck probably doesn’t know he killed someone.

    It’s a real safety issue. But I still see so many people driving with a good six inches or more of snow on their roof.

  • Dave

    There was an accident reported awhile back in Illinois. Ice few off of a car, hit another car and broke the windshield. Either the ice or the glass hit the driver and he lost an eye because of that. Freak accident but it can happen. I still remember that story every time I see the ice and snow on cars. Point is that accidents like that can be prevented.

  • Zak

    Another way for the Suffolk county to increase revenue.

  • liwingnut

    In addition to fine, they should also be subjected to a smack upside their heads.

  • James C.

    I agree. Leaving snow on your car is extremely dangerous. Especially when it turns to ice. It only takes a few minutes to clear the car of snow. I can’t believe when i see people driving with snow covering all of their windows except for the windshield. What are people thinking when there is snow covering their back windshield? Don’t they understand that it’s foolish to drive and not see your surroundings? The fine should be steep… that is the deterrent. Also, people should be fined when the dig out their car and leave the snow in the street, that creates ice on the roads.

  • Jeffrey Allen Miller NY

    Another fine example of why people actually want bigger gov’t. They aren’t smart enough to make reasonable, rational decisions on their own, so let gov’t tell them what to do. And ‘betcha’ those types support Palin too. Jeffrey Allen Miller NY

  • Steve M.

    “Cooper says his priority is not to collect fines, but to keep people safe.”…OK then drop the fine and issue warnings……Or make the fine a dollar..

    • ycplum

      I’d like to modify your suggestion. Make the driver clean their vehicle, right there on the side of the road. If the driver choses to challenge the charge, the police officer can take a pic of teh car and it can be settle in court. Of course, a court cost can be levied if the court finds against the driver. Most of these drivers are either lazy or in a rush.

      • akhdulha

        Good idea!

  • Joe Sr

    Why clean snow and ice from cars. It’s lots of fun to be hit in the windshield by snow from some lazy person’s car. Oh, for those of you who are always running late and have no time to brush off your vehicles – stay home !

  • Brian

    I think that the flying snow/ice from cars should be illegal in every state.. very dangerous driving down interstate going 70 and have a pile of snow fly off the car in front of you and land on your windshield.. instant zero visibility.

    • Alex

      If you going 70, during snow condition. i would ticket you, instead.

      • Michael H.

        This still applies when it hasn’t snowed in a few days and the roads are clear yet somebody ahead of you neglected to clean the six inches of snow off their roof.

  • hismomma

    DanTe is one of the jerks you need to beware of during these conditions. He obviously is a selfish driver.

  • Ellen

    Sterling Smith. Same here in Boston.

  • Sterling Smith

    Here in Minneosta, not clearing your vehicle is a crime…they charge the slobs with liittering….

  • The Good Samaritan

    Pogo the clown very well said

    The Good Samaritan has spoken

  • pogo the clown

    Come on people – take 10 minutes and clear the snow off your car. it’s not that tough. The flying snow & ice really is a hazard. Don’t be so flippin’ lazy !!

  • DanTe

    What is of “concern” are the stupid T ARDS that drive slowly on the left lane – causing people to spin out or hit each other as they try to drive around the T ARDS.

    (Hey, you fascist libturds in CdaBS figured out that censoring words doesn’t work yet? T ARDS)

    • Captain Obvious

      I agree with Dan. CBS should not be censoring words. It is really pi$$ing me off.

    • DanTe_Is_An_Idiot

      The tdumb ones have not figured out why there are slow left lane drivers in this weather condition and spins out for trying to pass them. Drive slow in this weather genius.

  • nick hooligan

    i call that one silly monkey in hauppage!!!

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