Long Island Among America’s Most Segregated Metro Areas

HAUPPAUGE, NY (WCBS 880) – Long Island continues to be one of the most segregated metropolitan areas in the United States, according to a new study.

Experts blame the problem on long-standing restrictive housing patterns.

A new study ranks the island the seventh most segregated among 50 major metro regions analyzed.

Researchers from Brown University and Florida State point out that it is really a black and white divide.

The study shows less segregation between Whites and Asians and between whites and Hispanics.

Government officials say they’re trying to address the problem through fair housing laws.

Since 2000, there has been little change in the diversity (or lack thereof) of Long Island. “You can hardly measure the change,” John R. Logan of Brown University (formerly of Stony Brook University) told Newsday.

The study was authored by Logan and Brian Stults of Florida State University.

Do you agree with the study? Let us know below

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  • Zachary Stephen

    Egh, this report doesn’t shock me, growing up in Levittown, I pretty much saw nothing but racist/redneck behavior. When I saw this, I was like, tell me something I don’t know…

  • King Tutti

    Here are the facts:

    Education/Motivation/Hard Work = Opportunity = $$
    Dropout/Laziness/Gang Banging/Thugging = Jail/Broke/Dead

    Knowledge doesn’t know color. Education doesn’t know color. Money doesn’t know color.

    In poor countries everyone knows the only way out of poverty is through education. Why after hundreds of years have American Blacks not figured this out? Stop worrying about whites/Jews and Asians and start worrying about improving your lives through hard work. Go to school. Get an education. That’s how demographics change. Don’t expect the Government to build housing in Manhasset for poor people. Set a goal and reach it. You’ll be proud of yourselves once you do.

    Last but not least, crime costs everyone more money to live. Wealthier people will pay more to live further away. Home prices are driven by demographics and school statistics. There would be no reason to pay far more in one neighborhood than another if there weren’t such stark differences.

  • Richard T.

    I grew up in Cypress Hills in Brooklyn. The neighborhood started to ‘change’ in the 1960’s and before we knew it, most of the buildings that I grew up with had been burned down. Next, we moved to Glendale in Queens, and things started to change there as well. Finally, I moved to Long Island, where, for the most part, I feel much safer. Take a look at the article on this website about the two holdups in the movie threater in Valley Stream. This was once a high class nieghborhood, which has now turned to trash. I am glad to pay my high taxes on my house to ensure that the ‘riff-raff’ cannot move in and turn my area to garbage. Sorry if you disagree, but it’s happened to me once too many times.

    • no-mo-mos-please

      valley stream is actually still a decent neighborhood- the criminals are usually blacks that take the bus to that mall from far rockaway or rosedale- that theatre had the infamous godfather shooting where the monkeys decided to shoot each other while the movie was playing

      • mo-mos-stink

        they also flood that mall with shoplifting and stolen credit cards, its christmas everyday- they run in, stuff items in their crotches, down their shirts, etc

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  • johnny

    I hope they build HUD housing in all of Long Island.

  • David Goldstein

    I can leave my windows opened and doors unlocked. I can leave my Mercedes in my driveway unlocked. I do not have to build a fence around my house. I do not need a guard dog. LET’S LEAVE IT THIS WAY!

  • Berlet98

    A New Look at Segregation

    “Segregation” is one of those buzzwords employed by social engineers and meant to stir up agita in white people who are led to believe they are complicit in some sort of crime and angst in blacks who are convinced they have been victims of discrimination. The term amounts to a shibboleth comparable to “McCarthyism” which is tossed around whenever some disloyal individual or group is caught acting disloyally.

    In fact, as used today, “segregation” is less a crime of discrimination as it is a societal and geographical anomoly misused to suggest racial inequities. Those inequities exist, but not because of racism.

    Thanks to the Civil Rights Movement and Dr. Martin Luther King Jr., the days of Selma and Bull Connor and George Wallace are long gone and in its stead are de facto racially imbalanced schools and communities which have as little in common with the cause of earlier civil rights struggles as Rosa Parks has with Condi Rice.

    It may seem simplistic to say, “It is what it is” but, in truth it is what it is and always will be as it is until blacks adopt Bill Cosby’s rejected philosophy that blacks should take full responsibility for their lives instead of blaming whites and segregation for who and what they are, for where they live, and for where they work and where their kids go to school.

    A scathing study on a Census Bureau American Community survey shows that Long Island ranks as the nation’s seventh most segregated of 50 major metropolitan areas, a situation which “experts” blame on “long-standing restrictive housing patterns” which “government officials say they’re trying to address . . . through fair housing laws.”

    I say, Bully for them, even if they are ignoring segregation realities, namely the lack of education, the lack of stability in black families, and the resultant lack of sufficient financial resources to enable blacks to rise above their current statuses. Add to those Bill Cosby’s view . . .
    (Read more at http://www.genelalor.com/blog1/?p=3730)

  • J

    Robert Moses must be laughing in his grave, because his plan worked- 4 now!

  • Tzorbana Ghnozransk

    someone put a curse on my turnips and my cat refuses to do backflips :(

    • Frodo Baggins

      :( i feel you homie

  • Yolanda Washington

    I’m a single dark chocolate woman with 3 young kids. Where can I get an application for affordable housing in Long Island?

    • faye adams

      I agree i can use a change of scenery. some place where the air is clear, the grass is green and trash can not only be found in the gutters, but high tax houses! when you find out share the knowledge i have many friends also looking.

    • Frodo Baggins

      you are chocolate?!?!?!?!?

  • David

    The solution is simple. If the Blacks and Hispanics want to live with in the White suburbs of Long Island let them pay for the houses and the real estate taxes like we do. Let them graduate college get a well paying job and buy a house. Why should the White people pay for their houses and others get it for free.

    • johnny

      College Grads? haha. The only reason half of them live there is due to the overpaid union jobs they hold whihc is why the taxes are through the roof.

    • Brian

      You’re funny!!! You actually think that the whites that live in Long Island are collegue grads… hahahaha… don’t make me laugh… you’re probably talking about the nice towns in LI, which are very few, the rest is packed with white trash that don’t even know what a college is… pay attention and you’ll see that actually the new immigrants buying houses in LI are actually the college grads.

      • momotogo

        your right brian, I would rather live in the hood anyday with the educated mo- mos over Great Neck, Roslyn Heights, Hewlett Harbor, Upper Brookville, Southampton etc. anyday. you’re well informed

      • momotogoplease

        your right brian, i would rather live in the hood with the educated mo moes any day than live in Great Neck, Roslyn, Southampthon, Brookville, Old Westbury etc. anyday- you inner city mo moes with the baby mommas are so cultured. very well informed

  • Southern Smartass

    Damn Yankees!! You made this bed in America…congratulations, job well done.

  • NY

    Stop demonizing people, they didn’t destroy those neighborhoods. It was all the drugs that where brought in by Irish, Italians, and Jewish gangsters in New York. Everybody had a part in destroying New York’s neighborhoods including blacks but they aren’t to blame. It wasn’t until Giuliani help to bring down the power of the mob over New York that we saw any change in these streets. Yeah there’s a lot of youthful blacks that act reckless but that is a case of lack of education by his surroundings or being from a broken family. You have a right to live with who you want and where you want but don’t make hurtful comments that have no basis.

  • MB

    Why were 1930’s LI parkway bridges built so that city buses could not pass under them?????

  • Eric M. Deadwiley

    I guess “Intelligent” people like yourself go around “Stigmatizing” an entire ethnic group! Do you really think God loves your people after all that you all have done to blacks? I don’t think you have a clue on what damage whites have done to blacks in the last 400 years. Your world is about to come to an end! Spell check that you idiot!

  • mb

    good thing this place is not censored. :(

  • Alessandro Simone

    Whether or not American citizens have a chance to earn membership in nice neighborhoods, through hard work _and_ confidence in their ability to surpass themselves (confidence which an unfair upbringing could easily destroy,) segregation – with respect to both race and social status – is still the reality. It is a systemic problem; in other words, our society’s capitalist meritocracy, operating in a world marred by inequality of opportunity and a nonchalant attitude to one’s fellow human – is propagating it. People living in minority neighborhoods still feel left out and undesired. Members of these communities who pay their own rent and bills work very hard, but in professions that don’t pay very well. Many minority parents are either too overbearing or too laid back with their kids, or a combination of being unkind and laid back – in part because they have to deal with their own issues.
    These issues stem from the unfavorable historical plight of minorities, fed in no small manner by the American establishment’s hostile or indifferent stance towards them. “Just come here and work”. It’s like they’re commodities. Doesn’t anyone realize the difference in stability of family background between culturally entrenched, American whites and minority immigrants just arriving here – or their children? They’ve had a lot more tumultous times to struggle through than happy, well-raised white anglo-saxon protestants or their imitators. As a result, directly or indirectly, minority (excluding asian) children, on average, fare worse in school than white and asian children. Schools, with their outdated methodologies, curry favor with students who are already motivated to achieve, unburdened by distractions from family life (including emotional abuse;) they leave out the maladjusted students by dishing them low grades, instead of giving these students personal support. (understanding what’s going on in these students’ lives, sessions with a good school psychologist, for example. Do urban educational districts have the money to hire therapists?) Consequently, minority students more often than not get a substandard education, and they have to get lower paying, less-interesting work upon graduation. Is the inequality in opportunity obvious by now?

    • John Wimberly

      Hey Alessandro, go cry me a river. If these people really want their children to get ahead, maybe they should start putting more effort into parenting.

      • DB

        You hit the nail on the head, very easy to be a mother and father, harder to be a parent. Parents actually think teachers are there to discipline and raise their kids.

    • Dmitry Donskoy

      You contradict yourself: you just made a notion of “Many minority parents (that) are either too overbearing or too laid back with their kids, or a combination of being unkind and laid back – in part because they have to deal with their own issues”. So my question is: who denied those parent an opprtunity to be different and take better care of their kids? Who denied them an opportunity to spend time with their kids and teach them reading and math? You blame schools “with their outdated methodologies”, “historical plight of minorities” and anything else. But you were still able to notice that children of asian decsent could fare better in schools. Have you asked yourself why? Most of those kids also have immigrant parents who came here with little money and even less English skills. I myself came here from Russia in 1995 with $2000 and one suitcase. I live now on that same Long Island (in Nassau county) in a nice house and employ 7 people in my business. I never got a penny from US Government and pay my taxes. What advantage from your point of view did I have over “minorities” who were born here in the USA? The only my advantage from your point of view would be that I am white and therefore not a “minority”. Isn’t it a racisim in its pure form?

      • Brian

        Dmitry, you bring up a very good point and I’m sure you are proud of your accomplishments and that you were able to get ahead with any help from the government, and to be honest, I feel the same way about my accomplishments as a I am a college grad living in a nice house in Long Island and making good money, but I’m going to have to agree with Alessandro on this one. I think the one thing people don’t realize is that many of these immigrants come from very undeveloped areas where education is not a priority, only work is. Therefore, the parents themselves haven’t even finished elementary school. Now, they have kids of their own and these kids go to school like everyone else, but, the disadvantage is that they have to work in low paying jobs because they don’t have the skills, therefore they need to work longer hours and many times even two jobs to support their families. For us that have been more fortunate, it is pretty easy to pay a mortgage or rent in LI, because we make good money, and therefore, we have more time to spend with our kids and to educate them well. For them, being home at a decent time to be with their kids is not an option, they need to work, work, and work. Now, people, think back at the time when your ancesters came to this country. They had nothing and thru hard work, they were able to move up in the economic lader. These new immigrants are doing the same, working hard so their kids can have a better future, and believe me, they do, I know a lot of kids of immigrants like myself who have made it in this country thanks to the hard work of their parents.

    • craig

      If the asians can do it, so can everyone. Some cultures are just more successful in general (mostly due to pushy mothers…jews and asians figured this out long ago), life isn’t fair, I realize that, but you have to make some sort of effort anyway.

      There is no reason you have to be black and live with a bunch of poor black people. It is more expensive to live in NYC than say iowa, or nebraska, where poor white people live. MOVE. If you can afford NYC you are already middle class in some poorer states.

      Luckily I live in Canada and we don’t have all this guilt or problem, because we all just hate rich people independent of race. :)

  • John Wimberly

    Most inner urban areas and inner cities are primarily populated by black people. Clearly they must be racists for segragating themselves this way.

  • Eric M. Deadwiley

    Your comment is totally idiotic and “Nasty.” It’s people like you that put a bad face on descent whites.

  • John Smith

    This is the truth! And this has happened to middle class and even affluent neighborhoods all over the USA!

  • member

    WHat do you know of fort greene? Please stay out. Don’t return.

  • joe romano

    I’d like to ask the author of this study, Mr Logan, “Do you live in an intergrated neighborhood?” I like to bet you don’t.

    • Rich

      I couldn’t agree more…. Mr. Logan probably lives in a gated community somewhere in Florida far away and insulated from any neighborhood[s] he doesn’t deem safe himself …. These people are such hypocrites….

  • member

    You want to pray for something from this article? Pray that my Member get Bigger. It’s funny.

  • Dmitry Donskoy

    I live on Long Island in Oceanside. Everything seems to be fine here. I don’t really understand what problem Government Officials will try to address?

  • A. Bomb

    Let’s nuke LI and get it over with. Then everyone there will be the same color: charred.

  • Wow

    I am amazed that in this day and age there are still so many ignorant individuals. I will pray for you, your way of thinking will back fire on you. Grown up people, grow up!

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