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Victims’ Names Won’t Be Listed Alphabetically At 9/11 Memorial

NEW YORK (AP / CBSNewYork) – Victor Wald and Harry Ramos did not know each other until Sept. 11, but they died together trying to flee down a stairwell of the World Trade Center.

Their names will be next to each other’s on the national memorial at Ground Zero, one of hundreds of arrangements that emphasize victims’ connections, not in alphabetical order.

The National September 11 Memorial & Museum on Wednesday announced the final arrangement of the nearly 3,000 names around the waterfall-filled pools formed in the footprints of where the original World Trade Center towers stood.

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Michael Arad, the memorial architect, said that stories of the individuals’ lives will inevitably emerge from the names’ arrangement. “I think those individual stories will communicate very powerfully to generations to come,” he said.

LINK: Official Website of the 9/11 Memorial

The announcement did not satisfy all survivors, especially given the complexity of the arrangement of the names. The memorial planners said they had mailed letters to more than 3,500 next-of-kin to tell them the location of victims’ names. They also announced a web application to locate them.

The application will be running on handheld devices, tablet computers and electronic kiosks on the plaza of the memorial when it opens in September, the tenth anniversary of the attacks.

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Listed on the memorial will be the names of the 2,976 people killed in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks in New York, Washington, D.C., and Pennsylvania; and the six people who died in the Feb. 26, 1993, bombing of the World Trade Center. The 9/11 victims are grouped on the memorial according to which flight they were on, whether they were first responders, worked at the Pentagon or were in one of the trade center towers.

“The arrangement falls short of what the families always wanted,” said Edie Lutnick, who lost her brother, Gary Lutnick, 36, a senior partner at Cantor Fitzgerald, in the attacks. “We have always felt that it should have had the affiliations with the civilians, just as there are affiliations for the uniformed services.”

She said the web application would be helpful. “I think that it’s wonderful you will be able to see the faces of the people who died,” she added. “It doesn’t take the place of the memorial telling the story.”

It is not only the exclusion of companies’ names that angers some survivors; many also are upset that victims’ ages won’t be listed.

Kurt Horning, of Scotch Plains, N.J., lost his 26-year-old son Matthew when the trade center collapsed. “I can’t believe they won’t identify ages,” he said. “It’s going to be a list of names, meaningless to anyone who looks at it.”

But Denise Kelly, of Syracuse, N.Y., said she was happy with the arrangement. Her brother Daniel R. Brandhorst and his partner, Ronald L. Gamboa, are listed adjacent to their 3-year-old son, David Reed Gamboa Brandhorst. They were aboard United Flight 175 when it struck the World Trade Center.

“I think it’s wonderful they can be kept together on the memorial,” she said. “That’s the way they would have wanted it.”

Family, co-workers at companies located inside the trade center and first responders had asked that certain victims’ names be placed together, and the memorial’s designers worked to accommodate them.

For instance, Donald James McIntyre, a 38-year-old Port Authority police officer who died as he tried to make his way to the 84th floor of the south tower, where his 35-year-old cousin John Anthony Sherry worked, are listed side by side.

Arad said he was trying to balance the need to make the memorial significant both for the victims’ families and for the rest of the world.

“I wanted to find a way to reach out to the families who lost loved ones and find a way for their voices to be part of the memorial,” he said. “It’s a memorial about individual loss and collective grief.”

One of the most contentious debates around the “Reflecting Absence” memorial has centered on how the names would be listed. Initially, the names were to be listed below ground, but survivors objected. After much debate, it was decided that the names would appear not in alphabetical order, but where the victims had died.

Brigitte Sion, a professor of religion at New York University who has studied memorials worldwide, said listing names is essential to the 9/11 memorial, because of the nature of the terror attacks.

“The need to create a memorial that has names is a surrogate for a cemetery,” Sion said, adding that many bodies of 9/11 victims have yet to be found for proper burial. “There’s no other place to mourn, there’s no other place to have a connection with the victims except there.”

More than 40 percent of the victims in New York have no identifiable remains, but authorities hope to identify thousands more with DNA technology.

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One Comment

  1. Vegas_Bob says:

    Why all this complication? Wouldn’t it have been easier just to list the names Alphabetically, so that family members and friends could easily locate each name? Was anything done to make sure that the names of the terrorists were not included (I saw an article that the Pennsylvania memorial had included the terrorists. . which makes a mockery of the memorial).
    Another thing upsetting about this “Memorial” is that there will be no titles. . .if the person who died was a fireman or policeman or clergy. . those titles should be a part of this memorial.

  2. Michael Burke says:

    You have the story all wrong. The names were never going to be listed alphabetically. They were to be listed randomly, with no further identification beyond name. To reflect, Arad said, the “randomness of the attacks.” Except,of course, the attacks were not random, nor the deaths. The target was carefully chosen, the attacks methodically planned and ruthlessly carried out. They came to kill any and all Americans and anybody associated w/ them. There was nothing random about it. If you were in the planes or above the fires you were dead. Also, ages will not be given. Denise Kelly may be pleased that her brother’s family will be listed together; since the child’s name will not be given no one will know that or that they were a family. It may be nice for her; however, the true meaning and impact of their deaths will be lost on everyone else and generations to come. The memorial will not include the acronyms FDNY, NYPD or PAPD. It will not include the words “firefighter” or “police officer.”
    What Arad says here is exactly and all the memorial is about: individual loss and collective grief with no acknowledgment as to the cause of this loss and grief. That is, it eliminates the meaning of their deaths.

    This site may be for many, including my brother, a final resting place. It is not a cemetary and it should NOT be remade so as to eradicate all its past and meaning solely into a place of mourning. We have a greater obligation here than to mourn. Someday all of us will be as dust as those of 9/11. Our first task here is to humbly preserve and faithfully convey the history of Sept. 11. Not give us a place to experience of personal loss and collective grief. Once Arad asked me why is it important that my brother, Capt. Billy Burke, Eng. Co. 21 be identified by his rank, “Captain.” After all, he was first my brother. News flash, Mike: it’s not about me; it’s about who they were and how and why they died. It’s about 9/11. W/o that the memorial has no integrity. And the memorial will not recognize the attacks. See petition online; Save the Sphere; savethesphere@gmail.com

  3. kendra says:

    i don,t think its nessary that everything has to be done in alphabetical order as long as they are mentioned as part of the momerial celebration…its all goodcause they are going to be remembered during there i time celebration tribute to the lost citizens.

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