Feminist Groups Among Protestors Speaking Out Against Verdict In NYPD Rape Trial

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Demonstrators rallied Friday to protest the not guilty verdict of two New York City police officers who were accused of raping a woman in 2008.

Officers Kenneth Moreno and Franklin Mata were acquitted Thursday of raping a drunken woman they had been called to help in 2008.

A small group of New Yorkers, including several feminist groups, gathered Friday evening in front of the Manhattan Criminal Court building to protest the not guilty verdict, reports CBS 2’s Pablo Guzman.

The protesters called for better training in the police academy for new officers on issues of rape, sexual assault and proper police conduct.

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“I want to send a message to all individuals who would prey on vulnerable women: it is unacceptable – unacceptable – to take advantage of a woman in that state,” City Councilwoman Letitia James said. “A ‘no’ is a ‘no’, even if you’re intoxicated.”

Jurors said the two officers were acquitted because they determined there was not enough evidence to support a rape conviction based solely on the word of the woman, who was admittedly very drunk and passing out.

Even as the word spread outside the courthouse after Thursday’s verdict, the reaction against the officers and the decision was immediate.

“There are certain things that are just obvious to the people,” Carl Tyler said. “People are outraged about this verdict. That is unbelievable.”

Officer Moreno’s lawyer said the woman made her story up.

“Whether she’s confused, lying, began to embellish the story after she, you know, filed a lawsuit – I don’t know,” defense attorney Joseph Tacopina said.

Many people said that the prosecutors messed up, that they blew the case. Noted criminal defense attorney Gerald Lefcourt explained why the prosecution had their hands tied.

“DNA, you know – people expect proof beyond a reasonable doubt,” Lefcourt said. “In addition to not having any science, and real scientific evidence, they also had a victim who couldn’t remember significant things. That combination is devastating.”

“If it looks like a duck, and it walks like a duck, and it quacks like a duck, I think it’s a duck,” one protestor said.

Moreno and Mata were at the courthouse Friday briefly to pick up some papers from the probation department.

What do you think about the verdict? Sound off below in our comments section.

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  1. CLEMDANE says:

    Just remember women, if you LEAVE YOUR RAPIST DEAD there will be no need for a trial where you are placed on trial as the criminal! You will not be cross examined, accused, told you are a liar and told you identified the wrong man or made the whole thing up. JUST KILL HIM ON THE SPOT and the let the morgue sort it out.

  2. The Facts says:

    How many of the protesters would have no problem killing a baby in the womb if the pregnancy was inconvenient? So much for rights!

  3. Jeff Rosen ret NYPD says:

    I guess the feminist groups don’t believe in the American court system. Maybe they should all move to a dictatorship where convictions are railroaded through without any evidence.

    1. Kai says:

      Why are you defending men who went in and out of a woman’s apartment three times, oh after taking her keys to do so, when she was so intoxicated she could not get from the cab to her apartment on her own? What do you think they were doing in there exactly? Why falsify calls to 911? And No Man would admit to having raped someone if they were fully innocent, even over the phone. No way would a man say yes to this sort of accusation if he was innocent, and he definitely would not say, “I wore a condom.” So again, why are you attacking these women and by default supporting two men who even the NYPD believes are so vile they have fired them – why act as thought the system has never made a mistake before? That suits no one and does no one any favors.

      1. Jeff Rosen ret NYPD Sgt says:

        Who’s defending anyone? Read my post again. There was very little evidence and the woman admitted she was so drunk she couldn’t remember much, therefore there was an acquiittal. So these feminist groups are protesting a verdict that couldn’t go any other way.

  4. Dale Auburn says:

    There are 7 Lithuanians who live in Queens. Would you exempt them from all laws just because there are no Lithuanian-American cops to arrest them?

    The problem with your idea is that having cops of EVERY ethnic group means that the NYPD might have to hire actual CITY RESIDENTS, which the police unions currently prohibit except on Staten Island.

  5. nyc says:

    The Cop was lying in bed with her while he was on duty, with his partner taking a nap in her apt. ? What the hell ? Another OJ trial. Hope she wins her civil suit !

    1. M.A.D says:

      hope NOT!!! I not paying her..

  6. Z says:

    I believe something malicious happened to this woman. The unreported visits and the fake 911 call is all i need to presume guilt. Moreno is crafty; of course he’ll “admit” he spooned her in bed in case any of his DNA [hair, skin] was found.

    And the lawsuit against the city. How can the city be held accountable for the actions of two free [twisted] willed individuals? I would be totally in her corner if not for this.

  7. BPF says:

    99% of ALL NEW YORKERS, KNOW THEY ARE GUILTY SOMETHING NEEDS
    TO BE DONE ABOUT THE NYPD, THEY SHOULD BE MONITORED AT ALL
    TIMES…..THE MOST CORRUPT VILE CRIMINAL SOCIOPATHIC POLICE FORCE IN THE NATION……….EVERYONE HEARTS GOE OUT TO THE VICTIM
    SHE WAS RAPED, AND SHE TOLD THE TRUTH 100%………..!!!!!
    WE WILL ALL SUPPORT HER IN HER CIVIL SUIT AND I BET YOU SHE WILL
    WIN……………………!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  8. This verdict is a humiliation for all women says:

    I was at the rally and it was a success. I am very glad that I saw many people, including some men, who are not indifferent to a pervasive and routine humiliation and subjugation of women that happens daily.
    Moreno and Mata — guilt will eat you alive.

  9. A humiliation for all women says:

    I was at the rally and it was a success. I am very glad that I saw many people, including some men, who are not indifferent to a pervasive and routing humiliation and subjugation of women that happens daily.
    Moreno and Mata — guilt will eat you alive.

  10. Trishe says:

    The jury found them innocent. Its time to move on!

    1. KPMc says:

      No… the jury didn’t find them guilty. There’s a big difference. Those two meatbags are anything but innocent.

  11. carlrosen says:

    Evidence schmevidence. We all know that all men are rapist swine dogs! They should have convicted them because so may men have made women feel bad for centuries. Evidence schmevidence!

  12. true NYC says:

    The jury had weekend plans come on people.

  13. Mr.Bipp says:

    Shave your pubic hair ,use a condom ,then rape all you want no evidence
    no jail,this is what this juries verdict sounds like.
    In any event if I am drunk and a cabdriver calls the police for me
    I hope a nice female NYPD officer will come visit me 3 times “off the
    clock” that night and lie in bed with me ,no sex needed ( I am 80+ years old)
    just tell me jokes and read to me.and don’t forget to turn off mine TV when you
    leave.

  14. Nate says:

    I was on a jury several years ago for a drug trafficking case. I, and ultimately only one other juror, thought that the prosecution’s evidence did not support a guilty verdict. The jury was actually divided over this on the first day, but as time passed, several jurors who initially found the prosecution’s evidence weak, began to voice their opinion that they were tired of debating the issue. The majority of the jury insisted that I and another hold-out just go along with the guilty verdict so we could all go home. At least the jury on this rape case employed reason and weighed the evidence rather than being manipulated by emotions.

    1. BPF says:

      NYPD OFFICERS ARE GUILTY AND THEY KNOW ITAND SO DOES NYPD
      BRASS….OFF WITH THEIR HEADS AND ON TO………….!!!!

      don”t believe it, a jury recently in another case, kept sending notes to the judge that they wanted to go home, the 2 jurors who wanted to go home convinced all the others that no guilt took place here, CAUSE THEY WANTED TO GO HOME
      that is why we NEED A MANDATORY PROFESSIONAL JURY SYSTEM WITH
      PROFESSIONAL JURORS TRAINED TO BE ON A JURY

      NY JURORS ARE DUMB AND LAZY AND THIS JURY WAS NO DIFFERENT
      they DO NOT HAVE THE SKILL SET TO ADOPT CLEAR CONCISE ANALYTICAL CRITICAL OBJECTIVE THINKING & REASONING

      THEY ARE DUMB THAT IS WHY THE OFFICERS GOT AWAY WITH IT

  15. Dale Auburn says:

    “A ‘no’ is a ‘no’, even if you’re intoxicated.”

    In this case, the jury ruled that the “No” came LONG AFTER (not before or during) the fact. Is there a precedent for “retroactive rape”?

    1. Kai says:

      the thing is, you cannot consent to sex if you are so intoxicated you are incoherent, unconscious, or have the police called by your cabdriver because he believes you cannot make it into your apartment alone. that means, if someone has sex with an intoxicated person, that is rape.

  16. Lynn says:

    It says alot for our jury system.

    1. Dale Auburn says:

      Yes, it says that the jury stuck to the ACTUAL EVIDENCE and TESTIMONY presented at the trial rather than “public opinion”.

  17. Linda says:

    It sucks…

  18. Sad Day says:

    I feel bad the verdict was not in favor of the young woman, I believe they are guilty as sin and I am sorry for the woman but I thank her for her strength for going forward with this case. We need to thank her and the NYPD for releasing these terrible men from duty who claimed they were officers of the law. These men give real police officers who actually do their jobs a bad name. I am sorry they got off so easy but I do believe in God and I know their day will come! So they better get to repenting…..

    1. Dale Auburn says:

      “I believe they are guilty as sin”

      Believing something does not constitute physical evidence. The jury was allowed to consider only the ACTUAL EVIDENCE and TESTIMONY presented at the trial and not public opinion. It’s not the jury’s fault that the prosecution failed to prove its case.

      1. Kai says:

        What is your purpose here, responding to everyone’s comments in the opposite and claiming there was no evidence? Why did the men go in and out of her apartment so many times? Why did they have her keys? Besides, an innocent man would never have been swayed to admit to rape if he had not done it – the fact that he admitted to using a condom on the phone with her means that he did it. He admitted it. So again, what is your purpose here?

  19. Justice Not Served! says:

    So it’s ok that they were in and out of the apt. It’s ok that they made a bogus phone call of their whereabouts, it’s ok that one cuddled w/ her and the other napped????? What police officer does that??? Of course there was no DNA. That’s why he admitted he used a condom. The system is corrupt. All I can say is what goes around comes around!

    1. karlson says:

      They’re both getting fired by NYPD if it’s any consolation and will never again work for any police or law enforcement agency.

  20. Ant928 says:

    Well Guilty let me teach you something about FACTS!!

    You weren’t on they jury…they heard evidence and testimony…YOU didn’t.

    Also it was not a hung jury…the jury voted to ACQUIT! Which means you and the feminist groups are…FACT…WRONG!!! So go whine somewhere else.

    1. pc bullbuster says:

      Ant928 is correct. The problem we have with the judicial system is too many idiots want to vote guilty instead of voting whether the proecution proved “beyond a reasonable doubt” that the person commited the crime. I hope ppl like Guilty, Sad Day and others who believe that a guilty verdict should have been given are faced in a trial with the same people who just vote guilty.

    2. KPMc says:

      I just don’t understand how anyone defends these pieces of garbage. Do any of you have a decent bone in your body? Does anyone have a mother, sister, wife, daughter? All these excuses… she was drunk… there’s no evidence… these two pieces of garbage are the lowest of the low and somehow you animals are able to defend them. You all need to have a deep look into your own dark souls.

  21. Guilty says:

    Definition of INJUSTICE

    1: absence of justice : violation of right or of the rights of another : unfairness
    2: an unjust act : wrong

    And that is exactly what this was. This girl was violated. And more than once. Everyone except the jury knows they are guilty.

    1. Dale Auburn says:

      “Everyone except the jury knows they are guilty.”

      So the EVIDENCE that the jury saw and the TESTIMONY that the jury heard are totally irrelevant to the case? If “everybody” had absolute proof of these guys’ guilt, then “everybody” should have presented such proof early on (and “everybody” should now be prosecuted for aiding and abetting a crime).

      1. Michael Chernecky says:

        When the systen requires “absolute proof” and forces you (a juror) to vote against your conscience due to a very remote possibility of innocence, there’s something wrong with the system.

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