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NEW YORK (WFAN) - Former Giants running back Tiki Barber and his agent Mark Lepselter joined Mike Francesa for a contentious interview on Wednesday.

The New York Giants’ career leading rusher has spent the past four months working out in an attempt to make a comeback, although his chances rest on a new collective bargaining agreement.

Listen: Tiki Barber with Mike Francesa

The interview became heated at times, especially when the topic turned to Barber’s broadcasting career.

Barber: “I think you’re throwing a little bit of hyperbole out there, Mike, because I didn’t have a ‘big failure’ in broadcasting. I think if you laid the stage as you and Chris at the time tried to, that I was (to) be the next Matt Lauer, yeah, you could say it was a failure. But I had a lot of fulfillment at NBC. I did a lot of great stories that I think had impact over the three years that I was there.”

Barber: “You’re putting it in simple terms. And if that’s how you need to do it, Michael, fine, you put it in simple terms. But I don’t consider my time at NBC a failure.”

Francesa: “The guys at NBC, and I know all of them, they felt that you did a bad job and they said that they thought you were entitled. I mean, they were not complimentary about your work. Let’s not run away from that, this is part of the story.”

Barber: “If you tell me who it was and you get that person on air, I will have a debate with them. I think that’s cowardly of someone to talk behind someone’s back and not tell them, because the truth of the matter is, I don’t know what I could have done better at NBC.”

“I respect you because I think you have a great knowledge about sports and about the game of football. Do you always do it the correct way? I’m not sure. Do you interview people the correct way, because we’re talking about my life here. I’m not so sure.”

“Mike, I understand what you’re saying. You’re not wrong but you’re also not right. Because to characterize the three years that I had at NBC as abject failure is just wrong. It’s just not correct.”

Extra: Sneaky-Tiki-Tawdry

Barber talked about his popularity in New York:

“You know, I grew up in Virginia, where people are cordial about everything that they do. I came and lived in New York for ten years, played in New York for ten years and realized that every single person here has an opinion. I can’t chance people’s opinions about me based on, honestly I don’t even know what.

“And so, does it hurt me? Yeah, it does, because I think in some ways people are not appreciating who I was as a player. But does it hurt me that they have an opinion that’s negative against me? Not necessarily, because they’re all entitled to it, just like I’m entitled to my own opinions about you or Joe Schmo down the street.”

And why some Giants fans dislike him:

“I’m sure it probably has to do with the fact that I criticized Tom Coughlin and he goes and wins a Super Bowl. Or the conversations that I had about Eli Manning (that) got blown out of proportion. Things like that (where) people felt like I, as someone with knowledge, was attacking somebody that I just left, when it really wasn’t. It was just giving my opinion about things, and I’ve always been opinionated. You’ve known that, Mike.”

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What did you think of the interview? Did Barber’s ‘failure’ as a broadcaster spur him to unretire? Leave a comment below.

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  • dan

    Francesa is an expert on inside information all right, data and opinions that he plagiarizes from the inside of newspapers!!! Odd, only when he’s proven to be wrong does he credit his sources; otherwise, it’s his info all the way. And he thinks we’re too stupid to figure that out. News flash, we’re on to you!! I’d rather listen to my dentist drilling cavities in my mouth.

  • Bob Fowler

    Francesa is a blow hole who for years has claimed superior ‘inside’ knowledge of many subjects, only to be proven totally wrong. I would rather listen to a busy signal on the phone.

    Tiki though has an arrogance about him that seems to really turn people off. I know that superior athletes need superior egos in order to achieve their goals, but Tiki seems to have missed the humble pie at dinner. He appears disingenuous.

    Once again though, I ask the question…why is this news worthy? More shiny things to keep us in the dark about the real issues of our day?

    • heidi

      If you’re interested in the real issues of the day then why are you wasting your time on this site and listening/reading about sports?

  • macthorough

    Tiki is a pathetic analyst, football player, team mate, son and brother. He belittled Eli Manning, the Coach, the GIANTS team, and GIANTS fans. Then the GIANTS won arguably the best superbowl ever. The only thing he is known for in football is FUMBLING. Tiki’s whole career is a how-to of what NOT to do. As an analyst I never listened to him, he was always wrong or reported on stories or topics no one cared about. I always laughed and changed the channel when he was on. Tiki defines what you do NOT want in a team mate, and I can’t imagine how embarrassing Ronde Barber must feel having him a twin brother; always having to respond to questions about how Tiki is a quitter. I wonder how his mother feels knowing that she gave birth to a quitter. As an analyst Tiki is a poor mans Dhani Jones (very poor).

  • Jerry Lomis

    Tiki showed class on this interview, Mike was trying to trap him in to insulting fans.

  • Jim Hellman

    whats wrong with a guy changing course? life goes on. you are going to badger tiki about being a failure, compared to what? your listeners sitting on the couch watching the world go by?

  • GL

    hey tiki women are football fans and u got boo’d because you left ur wife that was pregnant with twins @ 8 months. SOUND FAMILIAR? YOU ARE SLIME THAT SLIME DOESNT WANT TO BE ASSOCIATED WITH!!!

  • flea

    Great Listen…..That is why Francesa is the best.

    • scott

      You have to be on some kind of medication if you really think that.

      • flea

        Who would you like…one of the ESPN CLONES who never ask a tough question? You know, one of the ESPN marionettes from the ESPN comedy store.

      • Metsux

        Spoken like a true Mutts fan who has thin skin. You sound like you would have preferred that jerkoff Carton who would have turned the interview into a circus like the Stern wanna be he is. But since Cartoon is a mut fan, you would have liked that.

  • Ace

    The biggest mystery of all time is how this blowhard has top-rated shows and comfortably stays on the air when he’s such a “big failure” at treating callers and listeners with the respect they deserve, especially when they disagree with the King. Oh, and he knows all the people at NBC because he’s a big shot and you’re not!! Look who he knows and you’ll have zero chance to ever know, you peons!! Too bad that Russo wasn’t the one who stayed at FAN. At least he had a personality.

  • Rick

    Funny that his show is called “Mike’d Up” because all he does is “talk down”.

  • steve

    Mike, seems like the type that we all pick on ,when we were young. Now he thinks he hit the big times! I just turn the channel when he is on.

  • OfficerJoe Bolton

    Two worthless egomaniacs who should shut up

  • scott

    I can’t wait to see Mikey when the Jets are again the hottest team in town, the talk of the town, and he again is not permitted have anyone associated with the team on his overrated program. That’ll be priceless. And to think that he calls Rex Ryan “classless”!!

  • Z Brimstead

    Francesca is the worst. I cannot listen to him. Tiki was not fired because he was a bad broadcaster–he was pushed out because NBC did not want to have a public face, an employee who cheated on his wife when she was pregnant with twins. To say anything else is to ignore the elephant in the room.

  • tmw

    Well, I seriously doubt you’ll be hearing Mikey talking to any ex-Jet anytime soon, if you know what I mean. Every time you think this man can’t come across any more egocentric, he breaks new ground. It’s a gift, I guess. People need to start boycotting him and tuning him out. Then maybe FAN management will start to get the message that we’re tired of his act, and he’ll be humbled.

  • gary mcnaughton

    tiki is an ego-tripping clown that is too ignorant and full of himself to realize that the only credibility he had came from carrying a football for the new york giants. as far as the criticism if mike goes, he has essentially been ruling the roost in the toughest media market in the world for well over 20 years. and the fact that people perceive him to be “talking down” to some listeners, if you ever heard some of the brain dead bozos that call in it is a wonder that he even engages them at all.

    • scott

      You must be one of those brain-dead bozo sycophants who keep calling in to suck up and tell his ego-tripping Highness, “Hey Mike, love the show, great show!” You have it completely backwards regarding who involved in that “interview” is the one “full of himself”.

      • Lou

        You’re both right and you’re both wrong. There’s no question Francessa’s full of himself. But Tiki is just as ridiculously arrogant. Make no mistake, Tiki has no doubt he’s the smartest guy in the room at all times as well.

        That’s why this interview had to be over the phone. Their egos couldn’t fit in the same room.

      • gary mcnaughton

        evidently you are a listener as well

  • Parker

    Clearly badgering. Tacky to pummel a person who considers himself in a depressed state. “Quarter century”? Wo.

  • scott

    Phil Mushnick is 1000% on the money every time he rightfully exposes Fran-say-so for the blowhard and fraud that he is. The only reason his ratings are where they are is because of FAN’s stronger local signal and brand compared to ESPN-1050. It has absolutely nothing to do with the content and quality of Fran-say-so’s show, which is unbearable post-Mad Dog and STILL without a partner/sidekick. You could put anyone in that time period on FAN and he/she would get decent ratings. It’s long past the time for this rude, smug windbag to be taken down about ten notches and eat some humble pie.

    • flea

      All of these negative comments about Francesa, just proves my point….he’s a great listen.

      • scott

        You need your head examined if you think that Fran-say-so is a “great listen”. I’d much rather listen to fingernails on a chalkboard. I guess if you like a boorish, bombastic blowhard with self-absorbed knowledge who thinks he’s superior to the serfs and peons in the real world, then you’ll be entertained in the afternoon.

  • David Izzo

    MIke told Tiki he was a bad broadcaster. Wow, this from a guy who stumbles over his words, repeats phrases over and over, especially “you know.” and would never, ever have a regular gig on national TV. Tiki may not have lasted on NBC but Mike wouldn’t even be considered. I am also Italian and originally from NYC and Long Island. I am an English professor (but born very poor in Corona Queens so ivory tower cannot be applied) who has published 21 books and to hear Mike speak is like hearing repetitive thuds from a dull branch on hard ground. I don’t mean the NYC accent but the monotone boring speech that would fail a high school speech class. Without FAN he would not have a job; he is a habit, not a talent. He has none. I am not defending Tiki but to hear Mike talk about his fabulously successful broadcast career on local radio–albeit NYC metro–is absurd. There are countless people that would do better once they learn which buttons to push. Mike is just a jealous petty fat man because he could never be on network TV and Tiki was. As somebody once said: I’d rather be a has been than a never was. As far as Network TV Mike is the never was.
    David Garrett Izzo

    • Randy Spears

      Mike works for NBC, and has for years. This simple point just ruins your entire rant.

      • Albert

        Francesa works locally for WNBC-Ch. 4, not the national NBC network.

      • Dtri

        Yes, he works for NBC–but only seen/heard in NYC–non even upstate, really… His Sunday NFL Show used to run down here in DC, but hasn’t for years… He is knowledgeable, and talented, obviously, cannot deny that, but there’s clearly a reason he’s not on a wider range–ratings, as most of you have pointed out…

    • IgnoranteElephante

      “There are countless people that would do better once they learn which buttons to push.”

      You would think such an accomplished English professor like yourself would have a better grasp of the language. In the sentence above, people being human people take the pronoun “who” instead of “that” which is reserved for inanimate objects. Thus it should read as follows:

      “There are countless people WHO would do better once they learn which buttons to push.”

      Your punctuation is also deplorable. You should grab a grammar book off of your library’s shelf and study comma usage, so that your sentence structure does not seem so rambling.

      Let me know the college at which you teach, so I know where not to send my kid.

      • David Izzo

        You’re funny!
        21 books and 60 essays later which one iof us is the expert? Look it up at http://www.davidgarrettizzo.com. Let me know when your book comes out.
        You are wrong about who vs. that and what punctuation are you talking about?
        What I have written is technically correct’;perhaps (note the semicolon–do you know what that is) complex sentences are beyond you. I wouldn’t want to teach your kid if he is as stupid as his father. And as was noted in another comment, you are incorrect about Mike’s TV work which is not network, but local.

      • David Izzo

        Oops– I made a typo–that is what I get for typing too fast– I bet you’re in hog heaven now, thinking you are right.

        The best response to criticism is accomplishment. Like I said 21 books, 60 essays.

    • JS

      Good statement by Izzo
      I barely know F’s work, but it was chicken-s#it to say those things to Barber.

    • Tom

      YES! Absolutely right! I go crazy listening to Mike’s inability to pronounce words that begin with “h” properly. “Huge”, “Houston” – the “h” is constantly dropped. And if he says “Wait a second!” one more time, I’m gonna slit my throat. Get this moron off the air!

  • Ace

    Right on, Tiki! I can’t believe that people still listen to this overbearing blowhard, who’s nothing without Mad Dog. Yes, no one denies that Fran-say-so has a wide knowledge of sports. But the fact that he constantly comes across like an all-knowing, self-serving, name-dropping braggart who is rude to callers and interrupts/shouts over them when they disagree with his Majesty is downright shameful and nauseating. His pompous attitude has turned off many, many people. And during “interviews”, it would be nice to near the other person speak once in a while, instead of merely bowing to the King.

  • howard gage

    A good part of the excellence of Mike Franseca’s show went out the window when Chris Russo left it. The two of them had a wonderful chemistry together as when they argued, bounced various ideas and opinions off each other, etc. As a one man act, Mike leaves a lot to be desired,. He is very opinionated, i.e., thinks he knows everything and is very unappreciative of other people’s views, especially when they don’t agree with his. He makes predictions which often turn out to be wrong and rather than than admitting his mistakes, he finds all kinds of excuses as to why these predictions did not come true. In these situations, a little bit of humble pie would go a long way for him.

    • Steve

      The last thing Francesa needs is Pie sir.

  • Art Thompson

    Barber wasn’t smart enough to keep his hands off an NBC intern which is enough to get fired in any business. He bit the hand that fed him by running his mouth about Manning and Coughlin. An article in “Variety” dated today reports that NBC dumped him because he could not get along with coworkers and his life had become a circus. Barber is a clown who can play football. Francesa called him on it.

  • scorp980

    Tiki should have told Mike you are a failure Mike because you haven’t made as much money as I have.

  • Rick

    Fran-say-so is such a pompous, egocentric jerk. So, his Highness believes that someone like Tiki who didn’t have as long a run as him in broadcasting and was let go by his employer should be flat-out labeled a “failure”? Gee, I’m sorry that everyone can’t (inexplicably) last as long as Mr. Insider/Big Shot, the all-knowing Fran-say-so.

    • Lou

      How can you possibly not consider Tiki’s career at NBC a failure?

      You don’t have to like Francessa (he’s not for everyone), but give him credit when he’s right. Tiki sucked. That’s why he was fired.

  • Tom Holehan

    Mike was typical Mike in this interview: a pompous blowhard! We’re used to him murdering the English language and sucking up to sports celebrities, but it still doesn’t make him any easier to take.

  • Mitch Eisenman

    I have to agree with Tiki. Mike thinks he’s infallible. And does indeed talk down to the very callers that listen to him. Mike is by no means the luminary he thinks he is.
    And when he tries to discuss subjects outside the sports spectrum, frankly he’s sounds amateurish.

    • Earl

      I think this may be what Tiki needs to understand that loyalty has it’s place. He got a dose of his own medicine. I hope he has learned from it and is the better for it.

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