Family Of Slain Leiby Kletzky Continues To Mourn; Accused Killer Pleads Not Guilty

Accused Levi Aron Hears Voices, Hallucinates; Judge Orders Psych Evaluation

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — There were shouts of “murderer” as accused killer Levi Aron was put in a police car and taken to court in Brooklyn Thursday.

Aron, 35, pleaded not guilty to murder and kidnapping charges in connection with Leiby Kletzky’s death.  The boy’s mourning family continued to see an outpouring of emotional support from the area.

PHOTOS: Death Of 8-Year-Old Leiby Kletzky

Eve Emanual came from Flatbush as a stranger, just to be near the boy’s grieving family.

“I felt very, very strongly for the mother and what she’s going through,” she told CBS 2’s Derricke Dennis.

When leaving for his arraignment Thursday, a crowd outside the 67th Precinct in East Flatbush, where Aron has been held since his arrest, screamed “kill the murderer” as he was placed into a police car.

Other inmates reportedly screamed obscenities at Aron as he was taken out from the Brooklyn courthouse holding pens.

At his arraignment hearing, Aron’s lawyer, Pierre Bazile, asked that his client be put into protective custody and placed under a suicide watch. Aron said he hears voices and has hallucinations, 1010 WINS’ Juliet Papa reported.  A judge ordered a psychological evaluation.

1010 WINS’ Juliet Papa Reports That Aron Showed No Emotion In Court Thursday


Police released new details Thursday about the moments leading up to Kletzky’s death, saying the 8-year-old may have fought his alleged attacker.

Police have no evidence at the moment that Kletzky was molested before he was killed, but said there were scratches on Aron’s arms and wrists, leading investigators to believe that the boy fought back.

WCBS 880’s Paul Murnane In Kensington, Brooklyn: Aron Says Kletzky Fought Back

Police said they also think Kletzky may have been restrained in Aron’s home.

Police said part of the boy’s dismembered body was found in a freezer in Aron’s apartment. Other remains were found in a suitcase tossed in a Dumpster a few miles away.

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Levi Aron's defense lawyers Pierre Bazile (L) and Gerald Marrone. (credit: Juliet Papa, 1010 WINS)


Aron had been taken earlier to an area hospital for DNA testing. Police are trying to find out if he is linked to other crimes. They are reportedly looking into a report that Aron may have tried to lure a boy into his car last year.

WCBS 880’s Marla Diamond: Levi Aron Looked Disheveled And Kept His Head Down

Aron told police he took Kletzky to a wedding upstate in Monsey. Aron told police that the wedding ran late and he brought the 8-year-old back to his Borough Park apartment Monday night with intentions of returning him to his distraught parents the next day.

Officials said detectives are reviewing video from a wedding reception and are interviewing guests. Some have confirmed that Aron was there, but didn’t see the boy, according to officials.

The manager of the Ateres Charna catering hall, Izzy Goldstein, confirmed police did come to his business, where that wedding was held.

“I don’t have anything to say about the police, but they were here and they took whatever they had to take,” Goldstein said.

Police said Aron told investigators he killed Kletzky on Tuesday, but WCBS 880’s Paul Murnane reported police think Kletzky was killed on Monday.

Even investigators, who thought they had seen everything, were baffled by the suspect and the crime.

“I’ve been around this business for 40 years…and I think the level of violence is not something I can compare with,” Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes said.

WCBS 880’s Marla Diamond With Comment From Brooklyn D.A. Charles Hynes


There was also an outpouring of sorrow and support for Kletzky’s family Thursday night as they began a week-long mourning period, known as Shiva.

A family friend said the dead boy’s father, Nachman, and his wife, Esther, will likely not leave the apartment until the Shiva period ends next week.

WCBS 880’s Peter Haskell At The Boy’s Funeral And On The Faith Of The Borough Park Jewish Community

There is also word that the family has been spared some of the more gruesome details of what happened to their son. There now is a sign on the front door of the apartment building asking Shiva visitors to be mindful of that.

The sign reads “please be sensitive to the family.  Do not share rumors, stories and information you have heard at all.”

Mourners said that Kletzky’s mother has not been told how her son was killed — the gruesome details would be too much.

Rabbi Steve Ziskind is planning to sit Shiva with boy’s parents in their 6th floor Borough Park apartment.  He said the mother is being kept from television and newspaper reports, but will eventually know how her son was murdered.

“I think the one that should tell her should be professional help,” Ziskind said.


In a news conference Thursday, NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly said Aron told police he went to work on Tuesday as usual, leaving the boy in his apartment.

“He panicked when he saw the fliers and he saw the amount of activity that was being conducted by the community and by the police looking for the boy,” said Kelly.

Police said Aron told them when he came home from work, he killed Kletzky and dismembered him, placing the remains in his refrigerator and in a suitcase, which he then put in a dumpster a few miles away.

Kelly said Thursday a preliminary medical examination showed Kletzky was “smothered or suffocated,” but investigators haven’t yet determined exactly when the boy was killed.

Kelly also said Aron had given a written confession in the gruesome slaying, which ended with, “I’m sorry for the hurt that I caused.” Other than that, Kelly said Aron hasn’t expressed any remorse.

1010 WINS’ Terry Sheridan reports: Kelly Tries To Make Sense Of Kletzky’s Murder

Police said various surveillance videos offer a crystal clear timeline of the tragedy. One of them shows Aron luring the lost little boy off the street and into his car Monday evening, police said.

What are your thoughts on this horrific tragedy? Sound off in our comments section below…

  • brooklyn4ever

    Claude, I agree with you 100%. I am 50 and was also allowed to walk a distance to the store when I was younger, but back then the world was a kindler, gentler place. Animals like the ones we have today were mostly unheard of back then. If only we can go back to that time.

    • p harris

      Your comment is well intended.

      The world was NOT kinder and gentler. There have been horrors since the beginning of time. My mother grew up in NY in the 30’s and she said even then there were stories of children “disappearing”, rape, murder.

      When she was ten, she was approached, in a fine part of Manhattan, by two men. She said she recalls fear, dropped her school books and ran.

      She recalls they told her she was pretty and could be star in a show.

  • concerned

    This happens when you deny reality, and live in a fantasy world.
    They deny reality.

    Why not call the police right away or even a private investigator? Praying does not help.

    It seems that time was a factor, how horrible.

    • Rodin

      “Societies have the criminals they deserve.”
      – Alexandre Lacassagne
      French physician and criminologist
      (1843 – 1924)

  • TT

    Please unsuscribe my comment The notiffications are too much.

  • Glenn Erdmann

    The only voices he will be hearing for the rest of his life are when Big Bubba’s tells him to come over here. :)

  • Lystra Laster

    Look a little child have been killed by a maniac, how he said not guility is beyond me, I am a parent and I don’t care about race. We are human beings but onething the jewish community must teach their children to trust no-one.

  • tryingtostaysane

    What started as a tribute to the sad, tragic loss of an innocent child has dissolved into posts that indicate exactly why such a thing can happen when we don’t look out for each other and love each other. Bottom line is that this is a loss not only of the Jewish community but the entire world. We can either learn something good and positive from this or we are doomed to continue being stuck in excuses and blame and we will be incapable of growing to a higher level of love.

    • CJAFHH

      trying to staysane, you took the words right out of my mouth. I’m so disgusted with some of these negative posts, they’re almost as bad as the killer himself as they’re borderline monstrous. Some have lost sight of this poor family’s tragedy, and insted have used this forum to fester in and post hate. A kid was savagely murdered by a monster, plain and simple. The only blame is on the monster who did it, no one else, let’s all stay logical here, I know it’s easy to veer towards insanity as we try to reconcile this event in our minds and in our hearts, but it’s important to realize that the world has lost a child and that we need to ensure that his death is avenged with the help of the justice system. As an African American woman who previously lived in Crown Heights (a very populous Hasidic enclave) I always hoped to interact with the many folks that walked the parkway, but their lifestyle and the way that they have chosen to live their lives, is cloistered, but none of my business. It works for them, and how dare anyone criticize their close community. The point is, and always will be, Leiby Kletzky was murdered by a monster, and unless anyone can prove his parents had anything to do with putting him in the hands of this monster, as some of you appear to be suggesting, the only one to blame is Levi Aron.

  • IMHO

    Public stoning in the middle of Borough Park by peers would be too good for this monster. Dieing in prison which surely will happen is too good too.

  • Gramercy Girl

    This is such a sad situation. I want to thank all those that helped solve the crime so quickly… for if it weren’t for them linking the evidence together Aron might not have been caught. I go to AA meetings and there is an Orthodox Jew who attends… but they are so afraid to let anyone in the community know their inner demons for fear of judgment. They say it is the only place where they feel they can talk about what they are struggling with. They go to Synagogue regularly but only interact superficially with their community. I am not sure it’s an easy road to be born into a community like that, nor that it has anything to do with why this boy is gone.

    • ayc

      AA meetings are supposed to be confidential. You have no right relaying member information at all, especially in such a public forum. You’ve violated the individual’s trust and the trust of ALL AA members.

      • AA not breach of trust

        AYC…HOW SO? No names were mentioned not even the posters name used…Don’t tell me you are able to identify the individual….

      • STOP CRYING!!!!


  • Bruce

    I cried for the boy, so full of live, joy and innocence as he walked out of the school that afternoon, the video image I won’t be able to forget for the rest of my life. I want to share the excruciating pain the boy’s parents are enduring right now, hopefully by just sitting next to them in quietness. And I also feel so sorrowful for the murderer’s aging parents as they are experiencing the most terrible time in their lives. I pray to God should this suffering ever be happening at all!

    • Rodin

      Face it, cry all you want. this suffering will be “happening” again and again and again. It’s called the “human condition.” You cannot escape.

      • leadfootjen

        Oh that’s real positive. Thanks for the upbeat attitude.

      • Rodin

        @ leadfootjen

        If you compare this to all my other statements in this thread, you’ll quickly realize I did NOT write this. Neither style nor content fit.

        There is, however, some arse who continually takes over others’ monikers to post idiotic remarks like this one.

        Thanks, though, for bringing it to my attention.

  • Catherine

    Leiby was everyones child when he went missing. How many of us prayed for his safe return. I know I did. How many of us felt sick when we heard what happened to him? I cried for him and for his family. My daughter was kidnapped when she was 3 years old. The moment I knew something was wrong I felt like a small speck in this huge city. I felt so helpless. Luckily my daughter was returned safely to me do to a quick response. Leiby’s parents will never get to hold their wonderful son again. It doesn’t matter what religion or race you are, when it involves a child so many people are affected. Leo you are right, We lost a child.

    • Rodin

      “Nothing fails like prayer.” ~ Annie Laurie Gaylor

      • catherine

        Unfortunatly I do have to agree with you. But I had to try something.

    • So hurt...

      You;re so right but heaven gain an angel! God bless his family…

      • Rodin

        The heavens gained moisture. It’s gonna rain.

    • God help you..

      Rodin, your comment is shared by many these days unfortunately but trust me you’re wrong.

      • Rodin

        Show me. Prove me wrong. The onus is on the believer.

        Good without gods.

  • John

    Enough with this liberal nonsense, psychological evaluation, insanity and this entire BS, put a cap in this animal’s head……that’s a real justice.

    • Sha-Ron Kushnir, L.A.

      The tragedy reverberates on many levels. We can’t bring back Leibby, and we can certainly end the life of the irrevocably diseased Aron. But what we can do, and must do is educate and be resilient implementing social changes. Aron’s sick mentality is exacerbated by the violence he experienced as a child. His conditioned worsened by the bully’s on the streets way into adulthood. His crime against this child was an acting out of the violence and hatred he felt inside against those kids in his childhood. Whether you are a child or an adult STOP bullying. It is a very serious crime with very serious repercussions indeed. Teach kids to love one another, and we’ll never see such a crime ever again.


        Bullying, hating one another, discrimination and so on,. all have contributed to creating this monster……,,,,

      • John

        Why don’t you tell this BS to the poor kid’s parents, you so concerned about this animal? If punishment was to fit the crime there would be way less “mentally sick animals” trust me. In certain actions and/or behavior there should not be an excuse. How about we teach our kids to realize and understand if it quack like a duck, if it walks like a duck then it is, and not to lie to ourselves and pretend it is OK to do bad things and be excused from responsibilities.


        John, I don’t think we are promoting the idea that this monster should go free or making excuses for him.. Have you not read that almost all of those who have killed such in the columbian massacre have snapped because they were bullied…come on John you know for a fact that all these people have suffered enormously growing up… Until we fix those injustices in our society guess what you’ll see more and more Levis out there……

        He should NOT be freed, should not be given any special treatments and should be jailed for life with no chance for parole….

        that said lets start to admit our mistakes as a society and lets make a change for the better…Lets all learn from this tragedy….Lets move one, move forward..not backwards….

  • Mike

    How many, any numbers? or you just throw out words like a child.

    By the way, this guy was no paedophiles, there was no signs of abuse. this guy is just sick and evil, terrible combination.

    • Rodin


      No, he’s just the perfect prototype of the pedophile (learn to spell it before you blather) serial killer. May be his first but, then, who knows???

      • RODAN

        “serial killer”, eh?
        Those who lack arguments resort to insults.

        • Rodin

          Do try to be original….

          There is no insult, just case histories.

        • Rodin

          Leiby Kletzky fought for his life against Levi Aron
          New York Post
          July 15, 2011
          Brooklyn DA Charles Hynes … will also investigate whether Aron had previous improper contact with kids here and in Tennessee, where he previously lived.

  • Mike

    This is the 1st murder in the last 100 years, that’s why there “was” a sense of security.

    • Rodin

      @ Mike:

      “1st murder (REPORTED) in the last 100 years.”

      You ever hear ’bout MAZOLTUV BORUKHOVA , the most recent? Kill, baby, KILL!

      • LA LA LAND

        Obviously some choose to live in LA LA LAND!!


      Mike, you’re kidding right? Where have you been all these years? Get out from under that rock my friend….it’ll do you some good….

      • Rodin

        Why? He’d have to face reality!

  • Sweetie

    Aron definitely won’t get out even by pleading insanity, simply because he’s Jewish. The court system won’t let that go past so easily.



  • Leo

    Stop The anti-Semite comments, we LOST a child. Leiby could have been anyone’s child. I am a Catholic man and I am standing with my Jewish friends and Family, And we must all stand together and ” Try ” to avoid this. Enough of the Hate And the finger pointing! WE LOST A CHILD!

    • heather

      very well said

    • liz

      LEO, I totally agree with you. It is all so horrifying – the story itself is so awful and then anti-Semite comments how disgusting! I am not Jewish either and we are talking about a child who lost his life so violently – it’s unthinkable!

  • Ana

    A innocent beautiful child was killed, and what the freaking non-jews are concerned: Rabbinical courts, community affairs, forcing to accept a society that simple hate them for being to openly Jewish, like this is crime.
    When the hate is going stop?

    • Rodin

      Educate yourself, learn to write, THEN comment.

      • Dan

        …dosen’t stop you…

      • Rodin

        @ Dan

        This your only post? Mindless.

  • Miss D

    “Other inmates reportedly screamed obscenities at Aron as he was taken out from the Brooklyn courthouse holding pens . . . ” Oh boy, I can’t wait to see what those nasties in federal prison will be doing to Levi once he’s in there. Hopefully, justice will be served behind bars.

    • sad in nyc

      Truth is if he does get federal prison which is highly unlikely he will be on 24 hour lockdown.It is more likely he will be in a mental hospital.After all how many people in this world can do something like that.Our justice system will fail again.Street justice is always a choice.

      • John

        Love your comment. True fact.

  • J

    No group is immune from mental illness.

    • Very conservative

      Especially liberals of course.

      • Rodin

        …or maybe you.


  • fklsdjkl

    post my comments .libs

  • A humble opinion

    I still cannot understand why the death penalty cannot be reinstated in NYS. This is one of the cases in which it would serve its purpose. Aron should get it. I hope his lawyer does not try to sell the jury one of those “insanity pleas”. There is no acceptable excuse for a lawyer to take a client like Aron.

    • Justice for Leiby

      I agree completely with “a humble opinion.” If anyone deserves the death penalty, it is this subhuman piece of trash.

      • Dmitry

        The odd thing is, if it were handled within the community, a swift death is likely what he will get. Now he will get a comfortable life behind bars. It’s very sad.

    • Jeff Rosen ret NYPD Sgt

      Lethal injection would be too good for him. Better to be sentenced to life imprisonment with DAILY TORTURE starting with a belt with a baseball bat below the belt every morning for the rest of his life!!!

      • keep dreaminmg

        Keep dreaming, the guy will get off easy like OJ, Casry, and many, many other killers…..You just watch……

  • Phyllis Sorrentino

    the antichrist is again among us and his name is Levi Aron.don’t bother with a trial,since there is no capital punishment.put him in the general prison population,and then justice will be carried out.

  • Tabatha

    A better question is if a little black boy were killed in such a manner, by another black, would the blacks give a f? Or would they somehow blame the whites, because 300 years ago……

    It’s not that the child died, but the manner in which he died.

  • notfaiir1

    Who cares. Do non-jews really care so much about this boy? Obviously, people are most concerned about people in their own communities. Also, to lump the jews into one big group is borderline antisemtiic. The jews were involved in the civil rights movement more than any other nonblack group. Liberal jewish groups have been heavily involved in the gay rights movement. Jews historically have cared a lot for all opressed people. This may or may not include the Hasidic community, but don’t lump all jews into one stereotype.

    • IgnoranteElephante

      That speaks volumes.

    • sk

      your’e right! liberal jews sacrificed their lives to helping blacks during the civil right movements! even today there are some jews who help every other minority group except their own! they are certainly not chasidic jews who are involved, but the more liberal jews don’t get more respect anyway! the black community have not given credit to those Jews who helped them. instead they get these labeled nasty comments on line. so maybe the facts that the chasidim look out for their own is not so bad after all. Besides ALL ethnic groups help out their own more than outsiders ( and thats ok too) because its your family!
      and MEDIA COVERAGE? what is BEEbee talking about? Does Sean Bell ring a bell? or the college student who was killed by police? those stories were in the papers for years! so NO! Jews do not get more coverage than other groups. Please just open your heart to this boy and his family! just feel their pain regardless of what ethnic group you are!

    • Catherine

      I care about Leiby and I’m not Jewish. When i first heard he was missing I prayed that he would be returned safely home to his parents. When I heard he was dead I cried and got angry. I wanted to be alone with Levi to beat him with my bare fists until I got to tired to move, and when I regained my strength I would beat him again. How can someone do what he did to an innocent child? Leiby’s murder has caused so much sadness in so many people not just those in the Hasidic community. I pray for Leiby’s parents now. I cannot begin to imagine the pain and loss they are feeling.



  • Beebee

    no way, and there would not be this amount of media coverage, it would be swept under the rug and the parents would be blamed, double standards.
    i say feed him shrimp wrapped in bacon then let him loose in the prison general population

    • feed him shrimp wrapped in bacon?

      “”””i say feed him shrimp wrapped in bacon “””” WHY WAS YOUR POIINT!!!

  • jaypee

    This crime is so horrendous. I am surprised the police did not charge the grieving parents with child endangerment. I think they would have if it was a different group of people.

    The poor baby got lost. A community with a false sense of security.

    God help the poor child, and his family.

    • heather

      you are surprised the parents were not charged!!!! why? are you a perfect parent??they obviously did not think their child will fall prey to an evil monster.

      • jaypee

        No Heather I am not a perfect parent. But I did not years ago nor would I now let a young unattended child walk down a busy Brooklyn, SI, Bronx, or Queens street unattended. No matter what time of day.

        Evil is everywhere.

    • sickofstupidity

      that is the stupidest comment so far. you think if they were a “different group” they would be charged? Funny,as far as I know Casey Anthony was NOT Jewish and was not charged with endangerment.

    • muzik

      Please – if you read all the posts of the psychologists blogging in the press, you will see that NOBODY with any intelligence is blaming the parents. These parents did what any good parent would do – every parent knows his or her child and they had a practice run with the child a couple of days before. This is not a false sense of security – this is called letting a child grow up, have independence and feel good about himself – with appropriate coaching and encouragement. Stop blaming and doing armchair quarterbacking. The parents are feeling enough pain as it is and asking themselves “what if? If only…” without others pointing fingers. How silly of you to call this “child endangerment!”

    • Rodin

      The “poor child” is dead. No help now.

      “He’s not with God, he’s f u c k ing dead. He’s not religious. Thanks for your thoughts, but he’s f u c k ing dead.” ~ Richard Tillman, Youngest brother of Pat Tillman killed by friendly fire in Afghanistan in 2004.

  • mg

    Where was the local Shomrim safety patrol? Aren’t they always on watch in that area?

    • kristinal

      Have you not been watching the news? they worked closely with the nypd and organized a search consisting of over 3,000 volunteers, as reported on this site

  • Phyllis

    May God hold that precious little boy in his hands and bring peace to his mother and father.



      • Dr.Mengl,got twins is a punk

        CAPS LOCK= Idiot

  • Janet Moskowitz

    Wow, this poor boy died so horribly and most of you and your anti semetic garbage is sprewing here.

    • IgnoranteElephante

      God forbid, you evershould question something such as a secret rabbinical court, you are labelled an antisemitic.

      It is this way of thinking that allows these tragedies to occur again and again. No one has the audacity to say “wait a minute, you’re Rabbinical Courts and religious government run afoul with the Constitution and laws of the land/

    • IgnoranteElephante

      God forbid anyone should question Hasidim, and they are immediately labeled an anti Semite. This way of thinking is what allows crimes in this community to be hidden time and time again. No one has the audacity to say, “Wait a minute, your religious run government and Rabbinical courts are in violation of the constitution and numerous state and federal laws.”

      • jm

        No you ignoramus, you being labeled and antisemite has less to do with your questioning, and more to do with your ill-placed and offtopic sentiment.

        A)What does their Rabbinical court have to do with the slaying of this poor boy?

        B)How does it tie in with changing the outcome here?

        An hour or an hour and a half of lead time would have been noncontributory to the outcome. If anything, it could have adversely contributed, since police are suspecting that Levi was panicked by the search efforts.

        Condolences to the family.

      • IgnoranteElephante

        Perhaps, km, if you would have read all of my comments, you would understand this.

        A) Rabbinical Court covers up past criminal acts and prohibits citizens from going to the police without their approval. The “no one from the outside rule” is why a 35 year old can bring an 8 year old Hassidic boy to a wedding, no questions asked. Impropriety is swept under the Persian rug. This rule also accounts for all the Monday morning quarterbacking. Everyone knew the guy was a creep and waited by Yeshivas, but no one took any real action because “no one from the outside must know.”

        B) Had they reported this miscreant’s prior luring, maybe he would not be on the streets.

        Once again, you and your kind prove the point that, when anyone questions your practices, God forbid, they are promptly labeled an anti Semite.

      • IgnoranteElephante

        jm, do you mean to say that earlier intervention by the secular police would have hasten this kid’s death? You truly are an @$$ hole. So, you know, when everyone, experts, the police, former kidnappers, say time is of the essence, that the an hour and a half would have been “noncontributory” and “adversely contributed” to the search. You don’t really believe this guy panicked and killed him. You are propagating the very same accurate stereotype you seem to rally against. Any mother worth her salt would have either went looking for the kid herself or called the police immediately upon learning her son was missing.

        Sounds like you’re sticking up for this guy. You’re the ignoramus. Loosen the tzitzit it is cutting off your circulation.

      • sk

        first i don’t know why you are bringing this up! your feelings about “questioning chasidim” don’t have anything with this horror story! there has been no discussion about “religious courts” during this horrible story? so why are you bringing that up in the first place? second, you don’t seem to know about religious courts. many jew go to religious courts (Bet Din) things that pertain to jewish law, often topics that don’t have to do with civil law. in addition, REligious courts are NOT violations of the constitution, so don’t talk about things you don’t know about b/c it just makes YOU look bad! also, this murderer had no criminal record before, he didn’t even always live in thsi sttae so where did you find a connection between “hidden crimes” in the community an dthis murdered boy? please open your heart to someone who lost A child in such a horrific way no matter what community they are part of!

      • Jeff Rosen ret NYPD Sgt

        Off your meds?

  • Scott

    I am baffled, in this day and age, how the “Perp” could show up at a wedding, with a “minor” boy, who nobody new or ever seen before, and not a single person asked or inquired about it. While indeed the Jewish community pulled together after the fact and that was great to see, how could a blind eyed be turned by so many beforehand? Even if the child was not murdered in the end, and I wish that was not so, the attendance at the wedding (if those facts are accurate) is mind-boggling how the young man could be missed. What grown man brings a strang (meaning: unfamiliar) young boy to a wedding?

    • IgnoranteElephante

      Secret, secret, they got a secret.

      They’d rather risk that something is amiss than go to the secular authority and expose one of their own.

      R.I.P. little guy

      • Scott

        Ah, so true. So true. I didn’t thinkof that. Thank you.

      • Scott

        So true, So true. I did not think of that. Thank you

      • COVER UP.....

        Hey the Catholics protect their own too… look at those thousands of priest who raped all those innocent boys and the Catholic church from the pope all the way down had said nothing and done nothing all to protect those child rapists in their midst….

        Most religions protect their own people no matter what they’ve done….is a fact…

      • kristinal

        the boy was not seen at the wedding as reported by the other guests, as per AP news

      • Mike

        This guy had no record at all, Actully he didnt even abuse this child. So what the heck are you talking about

    • IgnoranteElephante

      At least, they make headlines. Nothing is said about the problems in the Jewish community. It is wiped under the rug.

      • es

        I agree with you that sometimes things can get swept under the rug. But you are just spewing hatred, you haven’t stopped. Bringing up things that have nothing to do with this horrible situation. RIP Leiby, and may God comfort the Kletzky family and bring justice upon this evil evil evil being.

    • muzik

      If you read the news, you will see that he did not bring the boy to the wedding. He says he did, but the police don’t believe him on that. The cameras at the hall do not show the boy. But they do show that he was there. He claims he left the boy in the car with the window rolled down. The cops don’t believe that either. They are suspect that the boy was tied up in the apartment while he went to the wedding. The guy’s a jerk — and let the detectives sort the whole thing out, without picking on details and criticizing the orthodox community’s propriety.

  • KSBP

    Is it true that his mother called a local community group one and a half hours before the NYPD?

    • IgnoranteElephante

      They can’t go to the NYPD unless first clearing it within the community, and this is where their “close knit” community crosses the line. By promulgating rules which prohibit their members from reaching out to the police or prosecutors until the Rabbi gives his blessing is criminal. Aside from the separation of religion and government, you have witness and evidence tampering as well as obstruction.

      • eva

        KSBP it could be you are correct… but the police can’t do anything until 24 hours passed and that is a fact.
        The Shomrim (which I am assuming was first contacted) is a civil patrol unit that actually works very closely with the NYPD as does any other organization of this close nit community.
        Ignorante Elephante you are wrong. People do NOT have to get a clearing from the community before they go the NYPD. WHy in the world would you even assume that!!

    • IgnoranteElephante

      Eva, you are wrong. I have witnessed cases fall apart due to witnesses being told not to come forward and testify. I have seen the good Hasidic people protest outside the DA’s office, decrying the DA’s blind eye to this injustice. I have seen the beloved shomrim refuse to implicate perpetrators of violent crime. Ask any commander of any police precinct in Brooklyn, especially the 70, 66, 90, 79, 77, and the 71 precincts about how closely they work with the shomrim. Of course, the NYPD brass might say they are a good thing because they would never bite the hand the feeds them.

      Don’t speak on matters about which you are not qualified. There is no 24 hour rule with little children missing. That would be disastrous policy. Do you really think a mother crying in the precinct that her little child went missing at the supermarket would be told to go home and come back tomorrow.

      • annlen

        you are completely correct ignorant elephant–there is no 24 hour rule–i have lived amongst and know many members that are from that tight knit community–calling this community tight knit is an understatement–they work very closely together and will protest–most and even non religious jews have no idea how this community works–they do not take an outsider with open hands–they are very strict and observant–Yes, Eva you are wrong they must clear all before going outside. Outsiders are people that do not belong in their religious community and non jews–mind you they will not go to a non jewish doctor who is not in their community either–ignorant elephant I have seen them in action and you are correct


        I have read in the news in the past where families who had reported a kid of their missing were immediately told by the authorities that they could do nothing about the matter until at least 24 hours because many kids run away and then return to their homes!!! Why was there an exception made here….let me guess….

  • Marie Marie

    I will sound harsh to many, but I would PAY to see him swing.

    Set it up in times square- I bet you get a record crowd- and maybe, just maybe, this will teach the next psychopath preditor monster that it might be his own fate.
    I’d bring my lunch, I’d make popcorn.

    Evil monsters cannot have any leniency.

  • NY

    The SOB should be STONED by the Community

    • rebecca


    • SHARIA LAW???

      NY…. I don’t like the sound of that…..sounds too sharia like….

  • Gianni

    I know that there is much to be said, as evidenced by the many comments. But all I can do when I think of what happened to that little boy is weep.

    • sick to my stomach

      me too, I can’t help by cry about this little boy….so sad… I am sick to my stomach…

  • HEY!chatty cathy

    its people like u who really think just becouse this monster/looser/sico killed leiby kletzy is just two blame thin u dont have a clue im sure not even u want this to happen to any child but u would let your 8 year old son walk home alone and something like this happens and not feel you did somthing wrong too thin u most be careless to u trust your children 100% but please stop trusting other people from what i see people who hurt kids always come with a smile. if you dont want this to happen again wait until your child is at lease 13 maybe they will uderstand more not just not to go with strangers but find they way home i agree he did the killing but mom and dad let go the sheep to early rip LK

  • D

    May this man suffer the most brutal violations possible while rotting in prison for the rest of his useless and pathetic life. RIP Leiby

    • he pleads insanity

      He will not be rotting in prison most likely he will never spend a day in prison.If this guy is not insane then who is .How many of us hear voices and do things like this maybe 1 in 10million .this guy needs help but must never be released but more then likely he is out in 20.

    • NO JUSTICE>>>

      I can’t believe that at the advice of his lawyers he is now pleading NOT GUILTY!! How could he be pleading not guilty when in fact he had already confessed to authorities verebally and in writting that he did killed the boy!!!!!!!

      God this whole country and world is so evil, wickeet, and backwards……why do we waste so much tax payers money on our justice system when is obvious it is so darn broken and needs a complete overhaul!!!

  • Vik

    Crime knows no creed, color or class. ‘Nuf said.

    • pathetically gullilble

      Not according to all those saying that no such think can occur in their communities!!! How pathetically gullible these people are…..

  • candacebowie21

    It is not an emotional obscurity to demand that someone answers for lives of inncoent children. Every human being has a right to want their society and those who are unable to defend themselves to be protected. They have alot in common. Both cases involve monsters. A mother murdering her child, and a man cutting up a little boy. I think to throw Anthony and Levi into the same category is the least that can done. Its too bad they dont share a shallow grave together. As far as a judicial system that allows these people back onto the streets, no matter what evidence or more likely excuses are given. It is unacceptable. Bottom line: Both are monsters, both need to be removed from society. One way or another. I could have also made the comparison with Dahmer or Bundy. They are all in the same category. And none of them have endured 1/3rd of the suffering that they have inflicted upon others. I was not planning on getting into a detailed description of the trial, but rather making a generalization that something is very very wrong with a court system that allows baby killers to go free.

    • RIP

      T hank you, I couldn’t agree more with your statement…..

  • Joe C.

    I want to know if the Camp/Yeshivah knew this child was going to walk home by himself. I worked as a head counselor at a camp for almost 10 years. There was 3 way the kids got home.

    1. parent pickup
    2. bus service provided and run by the camp (2 counselor from the camp were assigned to each bus)
    3. Walkers-

    The kids who fell under this “Walkers” category needed to be signed up for this by their parents. They also needed to go home with an older sybling or approved person (this person was given to us by the childs parents). The only way a children walked home by themselfs was if they lived with in 4 blocks of the camp and with 3 or more in a group.

    What I dont undertsand is how did he even get out of the school alone! The Video of Leiby leaving the camp looked odd. there wasnt a sinlge other kid in site- i dont know but when the camp I spoke of was done for the day there were kids leaving in every direction…..

    • ariel

      the parents DID send him with a letter stating that he was going to walk by himself. apparently, leiby begged them to let him walk by himself. it was the first time they gave him permission. it was a 7 block walk and they reviewed the directions with multiple times.

    • JW

      His parents sent a note with Leiby that morning saying he would be walking home that day.



  • chattycathy

    The parents are in NO WAY responsible for this. Stop making excuses for a deranged maniac who did unspeakable things to a child! Any NORMAL person would HELP the child and NOT dismember him. The guy is a freak, Put the blame where it belongs. 100 % on the perpetrator!

    • WAKE UP

      Yes you’re right the perpetrator is the criminal here…but the child should not have been walking all alone for seven blocks….if you think this is ok,,,guess what you’ve learned nothing..and guess what too…it will end up happening again sometime in the future…..WAKE UP! Unfortunately this is 2011 and criminals and evil people live everywhere, anywhere and will kill at any given time no matter what……

      • Claude

        I’m 51 years old. When I was a child, it was pretty common to allow a child of nine to walk to the local grocery store, library or school. Considering that it was a short distance and a close knit neighborhood where everybody knew everybody, it’s hard to imagine that this would happen in the span of only seven blocks. I pity the parents, and agree that they aren’t to blame.

  • Ellen

    A lesson to all of us, never walk alone and if you have to ask for directions then better be a police officer you talk to , and instill that into your children over and over again.


      There is most definitely a lesson to be learned here and it angers me to hear that the mother did nothing wrong in this case……LEARN OF WHAT COULD HAVE BEEN DONE DIFFERENTLY SO AS NOT TO ALLOW IT TO HAPPEN TO YET ANOTHER KID!!!!

  • Micha

    I don’t believe the whole “I panicked” scenario Levi is trying to convince us of. I personally feel that he just doesn’t want to embaress his family any more than he already has. In my eyes, someone who dismembers a body is someone who has at the very least seriously THOUGHT of killing before… I don’t think he ever intended on letting Leiby go.

    • CJAFHH

      So True, Micha, so True!

      • Moe

        He is going for an insanity plea….it’s text book. This Levi guy watches way too much Law & Order.

        One way or another this animal is going to get what he deserves.

        My heart goes outot the family and the entire community he comes from.
        Gd bless them all


      I wouldn’t believe a word he says in his defense ever. The police is so quick to believe all that he is telling them…. All he cares about is getting off easy……

  • Tia

    terrible, the confession makes no sense whatsoever. he panicked? well why the hell did you take the child to your apartment anyway, trust me he had plans to harm this child. if i found a child on the street i would help him and try to get him back to his parents ASAP not take him to a wedding out of state and then home and murder him.

    maybe he panicked because he had abused this child, and he knew if found he would be convicted. he realizes ” he may have done something wrong” oh how many more red flags do you need. just listening to him talk makes me angry. that child had no choice in how he died horrifically and this @#!hole shouldn’t either. no plea bargains, no insanity, just put him out of his misery, send a clear message to others like him

    • Marie

      Tia, I am in total agreement with your comment. I am 100% +++ with you on just putting him out of his misery now, why waist any more time. Once you do this types of unhuman things you automaticallty loose all your human rights and you should not be breathing.

  • TT




  • notfaiir1

    I have an idea for Levi Aaron. He could say that the kid drowned in a neighbors pool and he was just not sure how to deal with it so he was going to keep the body for a little bit and then report it to police. This defense should hold water.

    • candacebowie21

      How true. If casey anthony can get off scott free, Im sure Levi can as well. Its such a shame that crimes such as this happen in the first place. But for our judicial system to let these monsters back into the community, and in turn, allow these types of crimes to reoccur is just ridiculous. It is beyond me. Im a full believer of killing the wolves to protect the sheep. Monsters who can inflict pain on others, especially children, loose their God given right to breathe. Hopefully some vigillante will take him out, since our justice system wont. What I dont understand about this case is his motive. Dahmer, Bundy, Gein… all had clear motives. If there wasnt sexual abuse, and he hadnt planned to kill him (which i dont buy), then what was his ultimate goal here???

      • IgnoranteElephante

        You really can’t compare a case where the body is not found until several months later after decomposition, where there is no cause of death, no motive, and forensic evidence pointing to it being murder, let alone being a murder caused by the defendant with a case where a little boy is found dismembered in the defendant’s refrigerator and freezer with bloody utensils, where there is a confession, and where the cause of death will undoubtedly be from strangulation or puncture wounds.
        This is the proverbial comparison of apples to oranges, and the only thing that they share in common is an unfortunate dead child. Making these comparisons not only demonstrates that reactionary emotion often obscures factual reason, but also shows ignorance to, and perverts, the justice system.

      • notfaiir1

        IgnoreanteElphante, I was being a little bit facitious. Relax. I know they aren’t exactly comparable, but it isn’t completely apples to oranges. Take away the confession, and there would be no actual proof that he was murdered by this man. He could have found the dead body and cut it up so as to dispose of it. This guy had no clear motive as well. Obviously, I don’t believe that but the Casey Anthony case had a mother who didn’t report the motive, had at least a little motive due to her partying ways and clearly lied multiple times. My point was that justice can be perverted by a good defense team even against the evidence.

      • Rodin

        @ notfaiir1

        “Take away the confession, and there would be no actual proof that he was murdered by this man. He could have found the dead body and cut it up so as to dispose of it.”

        Yeah, any time I find a kids body I cut it up and stick it in my refrigerator (for supper?) like roadkill.



  • Terri

    I have a sick feeling this disturbed individual will be found innocent of intention to murder, due to mental illness. If/when convicted, I don’t believe he will the get maximum penalty. If anything, I pray they keep him permanently off the streets! That poor baby, the fear and pain he endured… and those poor parents; what they are going through; no one should ever know from that kind of pain and sorrow! G-D rest Leibby’s soul in everlasting peace!

    • notfaiir1

      Though some of what you are saying is true at times, I think that it is unfair to ut so much blame on the rabbinic courts. Psychopaths live in many communities and often commit multiple crimes before they are caught. Just because the courts are insular doesn’t mean they are blind to justice. The Rabbinic courts are needed because Jewish law is different than American law and the community prefers it. Obviously these courts pervert justice at times, but to harp on them and not any other faulty court system, you do appear to have a bias against orthodox jews.

      • ???

        We live in the United States and are governed under American Law; period! To even suggest that we should adhere or accept that certain members of our community are subject to or should answer to a different set of laws, be it Rabbinical Law, Shar’ia or any other body of “law” you want to call it is tantamount to treason! The Constitution and our Courts are the only laws we are subject to.

        • jtorres

          When you are born into and live your whole life in a cloisetered society, separated from anyone different, only have contact with people living in the same enviorment and not being exposed to anything else, you accept these laws blindly. You know no other way. It’s not treason. It’s being controlled by having blind faith that’s been drilled into you since the day you were born.



      • danny

        You bring up a great point! If you want to live here, follow the laws of the land. One set of laws for all. It’s not fair that the hassidic community has their own justice system. The blacks, hispanics or whites don’t have separate courts. And what about the ambulances? Remember when the hasidic killed the little boy in Crown Heights? Why did the ambulance take the driver and left the black boy dead on the ground? If the hassidc community want to be treated fairly, they can’t live like this in the USA. If they want to live under the jewish law, they should go to Israel.

        • LIVE BY OUR LAWS

          I totally agree with you Danny. Let all those who don’t want to live by the laws of the USA move to their own country of origin!!!!!!!!!

          • Shlomo Farkas

            Israel, here they come. Could you imagine an America without them?

          • Rodin

            And yet we fear sharia…. ????

            • HUGO

              What does sharia have anything to do with this you idiot?

              • Rodin

                Religious law = religious law; Jew, Muslim or Christian, “you idiot.”

                Those who lack arguments resort to insults.

                Good without gods.

        • Mike

          I wonder how many of you smoked cocaine or marijuana. Isn’t that a law as well?

          What laws are we (Hasidim) ignoring? Bring me an example…

    • AgingJewishHipster

      The problem is that Orthodox Jews and non Jews alike are subject to the courts of this state and the federal courts whether or we prefer otherwise. When a consorted effort is made to avoid contact with the established, secular, judicial system this purpose is frustrated. Thus, preaching to the community that they must see “Rabbi So and So” before going to the police and enforcing such a rule prevents the established justice system from functioning.
      Unlike this clandestine system, the American system, for all of its faults, is largely on public display, and the actors within it, i.e., the judges, prosecutors, police, and other decision making authorities are all accountable to the public via elections, appointments, and appeals. Thus, if Charles Hynes, for example, refuses to prosecute an individual or type of crime, he would suffer the consequences at the polls and at the hands of the Attorney General who might appoint someone to so prosecute.
      The same cannot be said about “Rabbi So and So” whose decision is final and secretive. Congregants will not “go over his head” to the authorities out of fear of scorn and retribution. This allows dangerous people to remain in the community and crimes to go unreported. The fact that Levi Aaron was a psychopath is not the fault of the Rabbinical Courts, but, perhaps, if there was not such a stigma about going to the established justice system, this fact could have been brought to light before this poor child was slaughtered.

    • AgingJewishHipster

      By your logic, I guess we should accept Black Courts for blacks, gay courts for gays, and German Courts for those from the Rhine. Maybe, a court for pedophiles should be set up since they probably prefer to be judged by their own too.

      The federal government needs to step in and investigate the extent that religious governments have been set up throughout New York and the extent that they have obstructed and perverted, through intimidation or otherwise, the administration of justice through the official channels that we, the people, have chosen.

      • NOT SO FAIR


  • Tabatha

    An older child probably wouldn’t have gotten lost or disoriented.
    An older child probably would have left the car when he realized this man wasn’t bringing him home.
    An older child probably would have insisted to speak to his mother.
    An older child would have had more maturity to deal with the situation.
    This poor child did everything the way an 8 year old does things…got lost and asked a seemingly good person for help.
    Unfortunately out of 8 million people in NYC…he picked the wrong one.

    I know in this community 8 is old enough for some independence….but is it really?

    • IgnoranteElephante

      What is the point of this comment? What do you mean when you say that 8 is old enough in this community? Is a Hasidic 8 year old more mature than a gentile 8 year old?

      • Micha

        I don’t think she necessarily means that. I think she’s saying that the Hasidic community is closed off from the rest of the city (or is seemingly) and that children SHOULD be more safe in those neighborhoods… I thought the same thing.

      • IgnoranteElephante

        Unless, of course, the predator is from within.

      • Micha

        very true… i was talking about this yesterday that you never know who your neighbors truly are. Ted Bundy and Jeff Dahmer had neighbors too…

      • Tabatha

        Please see my reply 2 posts below


      I still don’t get something though….

      It was reported that the boy had walked past his own building on his way home….how could a child 8 years old not recognize his own home???????

      and also how did he got passed his mother waiting for him and not be noticed unless he went around some other block….

      Why did the mother not wait for him a block away from the day camp but from behind not forward. In other words she should have walked behind him trailing his every move without getting noticed, or walked along side him but on the other side of the street….why allow him to walk all alone for seven blocks….did the kid have to walk seven straight blocks or did he have to make turns anywhere?

      • dachs_dude

        Because an apartment building might look just like all the others in the neighborhood. Last September I saw a little girl about 9 walking up our stree crying her eyes out as she was lost on her way home. I had my dogs with me and my own daughter was at home, I asked if shie knew her mother or father’s cell phone number and we called them and found that she had walked right past her mother after her first day of school and figured she find her own way home in a new neighborhood. Luckily, she was safe.

    • Tabatha

      What I meant is that in the hasidic community….the families have many children.

      Because of this, the children are on their own at an earlier age. Mom and dad don’t have the time to pick up and chauffeur the kids around. They aren’t pampered.

      It would be the same for a kid who came from a large gentile family.

      I’m Jewish…and had one kid, who got my full attention.

      I have hasidic nieces….with lots of kids. One of them almost burned the house down a few months ago. They’re pretty much on their own…with the older ones helping to care for the younger ones (5 year old watching a 3 year old).

      If you go into a hasidic community….it’s no big deal to see little kids walking without adult supervision.

      Sorry if anyone took offense……..

      • why do many kids?

        Why have so many kids if they don’t have the time for them?

      • Rodin

        @ why do many kids?

        Because it is characteristic of religious fanatics of every stripe to multiply and conquer.

      • Rodin

        May I add like rats, roaches, skeeters, West Bank settlements and the plague.

      • Mike

        So all (or most) abductions in the US are children from large family’s… What’s your IQ?

      • Mike

        So all (or most) abductions in the US are children of large family’s… What’s your IQ?

      • Rodin

        @ Mike
        “So all (or most) abductions in the US are children from large family’s… What’s your IQ?”

        What’s yours?

        Those without rational arguments resort to insult. Again, what’s yours?

  • elizabeth

    I hope Leibby’s parents don’t blame themselves – it was not unreasonable to let Leibby walk part of the way home in broad daylight on well-populated streets in a statistically safe neighborhood. This crime is just totally weird.

    I don’t think the issue is whether or not Leibby, at nearly 9 years of age, was allowed out unsupervised too soon; I think the issue is that Levi Aron, at 35, is probably someone who should never be allowed out unsupervised, ever. Either he’s a predatory pervert – we’ll see what the DNA tests and his criminal history turn up – or else he’s an imbecile whose cracked judgments make him a menace to society. (“I took him to a wedding, gave him a sandwich, then killed him so I wouldn’t get in trouble.” DUH.)

    • sad in nyc

      Wow are you crazy it is NYC no child that age should be walking alone peroid.If it was so safe he would of made it home .If he was old enough he would not of got lost.Bottom line he was way to immature to walk ome alone .Parents should not give there little kids the feeling that it is safe to walk the streets of new york because honest truth is there are more dirtbags like levi aron out there.I dont blame his parents but would love for others to learn from this and if you let your child walk try to do it in a group of kids.

      • Mike

        I agree with you.

        I also live in Brooklyn and in a VERY safe area. I got mugged and beat up in my own street corner by 3 thugs. I was 11 years old. They chose me; the same way Levi chose Leiby. Levi was looking for this exact opportunity. He a typical predator, befriend your prey and kill it when they least exapct it.

        This has capital punishment written all over it!!


        People are so naive and gallible to believe that they live in such a place they like to think as SAFE!!!!!!!!!!!!

        LET ME SPELL IT OUT FOR YOU ALL!!!!!!!!!!!!


    • CJAFHH

      Very well said Elizabeth!

      • T



    • Ellen Goldstein

      My heart goes out to that poor family.

      If that murderous excuse for a human being, had just returned the child upon hearing of the search, he’d have gotten a reprimand and this story would have had a happy ending.

      I truly believe in karma. He’ll get what he deserved in prison.

      RIP Leibby

    • NO SENSE

      I love how people twist things around even when it don’t make sense..

      • Rodin


    • jaypee

      I totally disagree with you. It was and is unreasonable to think that any child can be left alone on a NYC street. Sick people come in all shape and sizes they are everywhere

    • tomy

      With all respects i think your liberalness comment and the fact that we should blame the parents shows that this minor should be accompanies by an adult at all times. Parents should be responsible and realistic. No matter what place you live in there is crime..statistics or not…its reality. And if this kid was escorted by a adult or parent this would all have been prevented. IT is a sick world and there are sickos around and the job of a parent is to protect not act like a friend and let their child experinece what he or she wants

      • LA LA LAND

        tomy you got that right… the Jewish people who think they are safe in their communities….

      • Rodin


    • Melissa Maxwell

      Agree with you 100% Well said!

    • Ellen

      I am a mother of 4 young children and also Jewish. It doesn’t matter what state, city, neighborhood, wealth, tight-knit or safe community. What matters is that an 8 year old is not developmentally or physically equipped to handle situations alone. “8” is still a very vulnerable age. You cannot let your children walk alone anywhere – period. Even young teens should have a buddy.
      People are people – and regardless of anything, mental illness is all around us. As a parent you have to assume the worst and error on the safe side.
      That poor mother – my heart breaks for her. Please learn from this so Leiby’s death can bring some good to the world. Do not let your children walk anywhere alone. Not anywhere – period.

    • p harris

      Your comment is on target.

      Aron is a pervert. This is a terrible tragedy. My heart breaks for this family and the sweet little boy.


    “What happens is, very often the pressure increases and increases and increases. And what happens to the boiling water when it increases too much? The lid comes off,” Bahn said. Are you kidding me, pressure, is this the excuse? There was too much pressure? This man is a monster, plain and simple. Make no further excuses for him with regards to pressure, or snapping, or emotional issues. Call him what he is, a monster who deserves to not ever walk free in its life again.

  • John

    Put this monster to sleep.

    • Ellen Povitch

      He needs to be hung by his ba–s !

    • Ellen Goldstein

      To sleep?????That’s too humane. Give him what he gave that poor child



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