Parents Of Murder Victim Leiby Kletzky Break Their Silence After Shiva

Meanwhile, Cops Probe Possible Link Between Levi Aron, Other Missing Kids

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — The parents of the murder victim Leiby Kletzky broke their silence on Thursday night.  The heartbroken family spoke for the first time since beginning shiva, the traditional Jewish period of mourning.

“The ache in our hearts will remain forever,” Nachman and Itta Kletzky wrote in a statement. “We are certain that Leiby is now looking down from heaven and blessing us all.”

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Kletsky’s parents ended their statement saying “If any tragedy is to ever befall any of you, G-d forbid, you should be blessed with a community and public as supportive as ours. We feel that through Leiby we’ve become family with you all.”

On Thursday, more than a week after Kletzky was found murdered, police were still processing the crime scene and were expected to begin digging again in the suspect’s backyard.

Earlier in the day, two more bags of evidence were brought from the home where Levi Aron has an attic apartment and on the eighth day of evidence collection crime scene investigators said they plan to probe further.

CBS 2’s Tony Aiello has learned cops found items of children’s clothing in Aron’s apartment — clothing that did not belong to 8-year-old Kletzky.

Criminal behavior expert Dr. Charles Heller said he finds that significant.

“That means he may have had other victims or he might have been using the clothing in the possibility of having victims. A grown man doesn’t collect children’s clothing,” Dr. Heller said.

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The entire situation is making neighbors nervous and leaving them with many questions.

“I’m curious because the police and the crime units are still here, so I’m just wondering what they’re looking for,” Rakisha White said.

They are looking for additional evidence in the horrific death of the 8-year-old boy, whose remains were found in two different spots within the borough last week. They are also looking for evidence linking Aron to other possible crimes.

It’s standard — and smart — police work according to Dr. Heller.

“I think there’s a strong possibility that he has done something like this before. Usually someone doesn’t start doing this when they are 35 years old. There are other incidents and it seems like he was a predator,” he said.

Police said Aron has confessed to snatching Kletzky off the street on July 11, feeding him drugs, killing him the next day and then dismembering and disposing of the body.

Heller said police in other jurisdictions will also be interested in Aron.

“It’s a mobile society. He also lived in Tennessee, and he had a vehicle. It’s possible that he had victims in other places,” Dr. Heller said.

Gerard Marrone, one of two lawyers representing Aron, has withdrawn from the case. Sources told Aiello he found the crimes Aron is accused of to be too horrific.

The maximum penalty for Aron, if convicted is life in prison without parole. What’s your reaction to that? Sound off in our comments section below…


One Comment

  1. Grenada Doris says:

    Doesn’t NY State have the death penalty? Is anyone analyzing HOW Aron got the Seroquel (quetiapine)? Isn’t it usually prescribed by psychiatrists to schizophrenic patients? Was he off his medication and suffering from confused thinking and paranoia? Lots of questions to be answered. C’mon media, ask the right questions!!

  2. Rodin says:


    At 12:50:21 AM on 22-07-11

    I. B. Curious said (and was censored):


    “Xmas” is a common abbreviation of the word “Christmas”. It is sometimes pronounced /ˈɛksməs/, but it, and variants such as “Xtemass”, originated as handwriting abbreviations for the typical pronunciation /ˈkrɪsməs/. The “-mas” part is from the Latin-derived Old English word for “Mass”,[1] while the “X” comes from the Greek letter Chi, which is the first letter of the Greek word Χριστός, translated as “Christ”.[2]


    Note to CBS: censorship only protects these idiots from being shown the fool they are. Much better solution to the problem postings.

    1. Rodin says:

      At 12:50:21 AM on 22-07-11
      Ronni said said (and was censored) In response to I. B. Curious’ ALERT’:

      “Seriously, can you ask a question before showing the world your ignorance? It’s a sign of reverance, of not using G-d’s name in vain.”

      The Spanish claim that to curse shows belief in god.

      Of course, I NEVER use it. Why would I? I believe in Dogs and that there is no god.

  3. BILLY GARLAND says:


    1. Rodin says:

      Were I a believer, I’d say he doesn’t need your prayers for an innocent child needs no redemption.

      Since I’m NOT, I say that Leiby Kletzky is at peace in death and YOU are in a living hell.

  4. Concerned Mother and Grandma says:

    I wonder why when we talk about God or Jesus, we leave these blank spaces, they say God forbid but put a space between His name. God is still God and we can’t get around it. We need to recognize that in this sinful, sex driven society, we need to pray to God more for answers instead of trying to figure them out ourselves. Somebody had to recognize that this man had a problem, but like any other time, nothing is ever done until someone is hurt of loose their life. this is so unfair to families and individuals. And this child deserve to live a full life. I pray that this predator and others get off the streets. People have no problem just taking lives like they gave life. God is the giver of life and we must recognize it and pray that we find peace in these evil times. Shalom

    1. BB says:

      Amen to that… i totally agree… because when we cry out to Him … we do not leave a space between His name… we say His whole name ! God!!!

      1. Rodin says:

        Well you’re as ill-informed as Grandma Moses here. Do help yourself to my response to her.

    2. Rodin says:

      Geez! Jews are not allowed to write or speak the name of god. Ignorance of the others is endemic to all religions. You’re too busy with your own and afraid of contagion.

      That’s why Atheists trump believers every time. We’re necessarily NOT smarter. We inform ourselves, we doubt, we question, we delve, we study, we THINK. That’s how we’ve reached our “rapture.” I know no Atheist who hasn’t traveled this road.


      Basic Religion Test Stumps Many Americans
      Published: September 28, 2010

  5. Carol Harris says:

    “LIFE” in prision? Wow, he should still have a life? Why? This is called punishment? We live in a pathetic country. If we had severe punishments, these things would not occur as often as they do!

  6. jj30 says:

    God bless this child’s soul.
    I do not like that the word “God” was not spelled out in this article
    I don’t like the word murder and i don’t agree with child abuse but those words are always spelled out and i accept them. What is this world coming to.

    1. jj30 says:

      I read below that the Jewish religion does not spell out God’s name. I did not know that, i stand corrected

    2. KPMc says:

      The word God was not written in the statement prepared by the parents therefor that is how it was re-printed at CBS. It is the parents right, get over it… move on with your life. It doesn’t affect you in any way whatsoever and certainly not in a negative way.

      1. Rodin says:

        Why? Remember….

        Ultra-Orthodox Paper Erases Hillary Clinton From Iconic Situation Room Photo

        CBSNewYork: May 9, 2011

        NEW YORK – Something’s a bit different about Brooklyn-based Ultra-orthodox Jewish newspaper Der Tzitung’s coverage of the death of Osama bin Laden.

        The paper, whose name means “The Time” in English, ran the iconic image of President Barack Obama and key members of his administration sitting in the situation room as they monitored the raid on bin Laden’s compound. In the shot, Clinton’s hand is covering her mouth.

        In the paper’s version of the shot, though, Clinton is entirely absent, having been edited out. Counter-terrorism analyst Audrey Tomasen was also apparently Photoshopped out.

        IF DER TZITUNG CAN ALTER, CBS CAN … but then, ultra-Orthodox Der Tzitung is soooooo ‘special’ it’s allowed to be sexist and flout (secular) copyright laws..

  7. Elmer says:

    TO CHUCK S…You are sooooo ignorant and insensitive. If that’s what it takes to get them through their grief, so be it. And you would know?! Have you ever been dead? Maybe you should be. One less as^hole on the planet. Say hi to Satan.

    1. Sarah says:

      Elmer – If they kill the guy who did this horrible deed, does that make us any better as human beings ? He has problems, put him away until they are resolved then let him try to deal with society again in a few years.

      1. elmer says:

        Sarah…learn to read. I was referring to CHUCK S’s comment. And while we are on the subject, yea, let’s kill Levi Aron and let’s include Casey Anthony. Maybe it will send a message. Eye for an eye. Oh sorry…you are probably one of those people who don’t believe in any of the Freedoms.

      2. Anne says:

        Sarah, your comment is immoral. You’re not revealing yourself as a compassionate person, but as a narcissist. They don’t fix problems like this killer has. This guy forfeited his right to live in society. They won’t let him out, but if they do, they should move him next to whoever you know who has kids.

      3. Rodin says:

        @ Anne

        I would LOVE to read your definition of “morality.” Please barf.

        “Immorality: the morality of those who are having a better time.” – H. L. Mencken

        Not to mention your definition of “narcissism….”

        “I loathe narcissism, but I approve of vanity.” – Diana Vreeland

        How about IGNORANCE?

        “There is no darkness but ignorance.” – William Shakespeare

    2. Rodin says:

      And you would know?! Have you ever been dead? Couldn’t have said it better myself.

      Those without arguments must resort to insults. IGNORANT are those who cling desperately to myth, superstition, fantasy and denial.

      It is not up to us to prove a negative. The onus is on you, the believers to show your proof. Start when you’re ready.

      “Go to Heaven for the climate, Hell for the company.” – Mark Twain

  8. Stacy Smith says:

    is this a joke? Please explain your comment, i.e. why should “brother Aron” be set free and what healing would result from it? Thanks.

  9. teetotaler says:

    Why is this not a federal crime where the maximum penalty is death?

    1. Chuck S says:

      It was an accident. That’s not Murder 1.

    2. Elmer says:

      You are sooooo ignorant and insensitive. If that’s what it takes to get them through their grief, so be it. And you would know?! Have you ever been dead? Maybe you should be. One less as^hole on the planet. Say hi to Satan.

    3. Elmer supporter says:

      I think Elmer is right. If someone wants to believe in those fairy tales to help them get through this terrible time, so be it. Who are we to judge.

    4. jmellis says:

      Because this is an entirely local crime. He didn’t cross state lines or kill someone on an army base. So the feds have no power over him. ‘

      Besides, good luck getting a death sentence in federal court these days…

      1. brooke says:

        He did cross state lines…they have footage of him with the child at a gas station in Jersey on the Monday night the child disappeared. So far the Feds have not shown an interest in taking over the case. Should evidence show that Aron has done this before in other states, who knows.

    5. Rodin says:

      Beats me.

      Murder isn’t necessarily a Federal offense, only in very specific cases, but KIDNAPPING IS, punishable by death.

      Don’t ask me why the Feds aren’t in this?

  10. Richard says:

    Criminal behavior expert Dr. Charles Heller said he finds that significant.

    “That means he may have had other victims or he might have been using the clothing in the possibility of having victims. A grown man doesn’t collect children’s clothing,” Dr. Heller said.

    Do we really need an “expert” to tell us this? Do we really need an expert to tell us looking for other child victims is “smart” and that a 35 year old man who killed one child may have killed others? Soon an “expert” will be telling us that a child molester preys on children.

  11. Ronni says:

    Seriously, can you ask a question before showing the world your ignorance? It’s a sign of reverance, of not using G-d’s name in vain.

  12. John Rotante says:

    Death Of 8-Year-Old Leiby Kletzky | A Community In Mourning

    Kletsky’s parents ended their statement saying “If any tragedy is to ever befall any of you, G-d forbid, you should be blessed with a community and public as supportive as ours. We feel that through Leiby we’ve become family with you all.”

    1. RJ says:

      The Jewish people do not say, pronounce, NOR WRITE OUT the name of God. It was in all likelihood out of respect for the boy and his mourning family…

    2. KPMc says:

      It was a written statement. That is how it is written. Get over your indignity for a minute and read the message, maybe you’ll learn something

    3. Elmer says:

      I guess we no longer have Freedom of Speech or Religion lest we insult someone with our beliefs and/or comments. I am white and I feel like a monority in my own country with all this political correctness.

      1. elmer says:

        CORRECTION…I guess we no longer have Freedom of Speech or Religion lest we insult someone with our beliefs and/or comments. I am white and I feel like a minority in my own country with all this political correctness.

        *I initially spelled “minority” incorrectly. Did not need any backlash from all the perfect people that come here.

      2. elmer says:

        I know I spelled minority wrong.

      3. Rodin says:

        What we need is freedom FROM religion … and … ignorance … AND … superstition!

        Correcting your spelling is only a distraction from your main error. CORRECTing your flawed BELIEF SYSTEM would get you a lot further.

      4. Rodin says:

        You meant to say you feel like a “MORONity….” Well, that’s OK, Mr. Fudd. YOU ARE.

        “I’m a wed-hot sportsman after wild game.” – Elmer Fudd

  13. michelle says:

    My prayers go out to leiby’s parents and to everyone who knew and loved him. Being a mother of 2 small children the same age this hit home and i can not understand how the world can have so much evil in it.. a precious innocent child. I hope justice is served and aaron gets the death penalty as he deserves it!

    1. Rodin says:

      Prayer leads to disprayer. NYS has no death penalty. Pray again and see what you get.

      “The idea that He would take his attention away from the universe in order to give me a bicycle with three speeds is just so unlikely I can’t go along with it.”

      English writer and raconteur
      (1908 – 1999)

  14. justice for all says:

    ‘YOU’ are almost depraved as Levi Aron

  15. alyssa says:

    if you had practiced that simple route, and you lived in this VERY UNIQUE area, your opinion may be diff. SHAME ON YOU for taking blame of Levi and putting it on distraught parents.LENORE SEZANSKY let her 9year old ride home, unattended on the subway, with a metrocard and a handful of quaters. He was fine.

  16. rochelle leffler says:

    the biblical concept of an eye for an eye–is not that you poke out my eye –then ill poke out yours—it is the value of the eye itself—if he gets the death penalty—if we string him up in times square—it doesnt really matter—there is nothing about this man that is of any value to equal the value of this innocent child—his punishment is not in this world—in that i am comforted

    1. Rodin says:

      William Shakespeare
      The Merchant of Venice

      The title page of the first quarto:
      “The moſt excellent Hiſtorie of the Merchant of Venice. With the extreame crueltie of Shylock the Iewe towards the ſayd Merchant, in cutting a iuſt pound of his fleſh: and the obtayning of Portia by the choyſe of three cheſts.”

      “The pound of flesh which I demand of him Is deerely bought, ’tis mine, and I will haue it.”

  17. grandestgrandma says:

    It boggles one’s mind to see how many narrow minded or hateful souls there are out there when it comes to giving advice about rearing children. How about abducted adults any comments ideas observations about who’s at fault and any dumb idea’s thoughts and comment to what should have, could have, whatever other brilliant commentary you may have on your aching souls, my idea is to set strict penalty on all these INSANE people believe me the percentage of insanity will drop dramatically. We were not bought to this world to act like animals but to make this a better safer place for human race.

    1. Rodin says:

      “We were not bought to this world to act like animals but to make this a better safer place for human race.”

      BUT WE ARE ANIMALS and without any purpose other than what you choose to do with your life and reproduce.

      “Beware the beast Man, for he is the Devil’s pawn. Alone among god’s primates, he kills for sport or lust or greed. Yea, he will murder his brother to possess his brother’s land. Let him not breed in great numbers, for he will make a desert of his home and yours. Shun him; drive him back into his jungle lair, for he is the harbinger of death.”


  18. Marie Spiridigliozzi says:

    That is strange, my son goes to camp, at 4PM I am already there to sign him out, and he is driven home.

  19. Bell Toller says:

    Also I blame Mayor Bloomberg for cutting the Police force….less police = more crime.

  20. lisa says:

    he cannot be rehabilitated, he probably thinks he did nothing wrong. He should get the death penalty.

    1. Mel says:

      I am so sad about this precious little boy. We adults mess up or make mistakes every day and we are given another chance or do-over.This baby got lost and he never got a second chance. Life just isn’t fair.

  21. Sue says:

    Sounds great – just don’t let him have the Anthoy jury!

  22. Robert says:

    this stupid, idiot and killer have to b dad ASAP. this kind people not allowed to b on sreet’s!!!! his not sick at all

  23. Sal says:

    I hope the police are looking at the area in Monsey where this POS brought this kid and attended a wedding. This isn’t the first time this POS killed.

    1. Marie Spiridigliozzi says:

      From yesterdays report, Levi, attended the wedding, Leiby was in the car, probably his hands were tied. I don’t know if he was given drugs there, or when he went to his apt.

  24. No Mercy says:

    He is not “mentally unfit”, he is just a crazy lunatic, who knew what he was doing. By the way the voices he hears are from the demons who are coming to get him, scraching his cell doors.

  25. Mel says:

    I would like to hear what his family and co-workers have to say. Obviously, this guy had family and or friends, he was invited to the wedding that he attended with the victim in the car. Did they have any indication that he was so unbalanced ? It seems very clear to me that he is “not right”. ( I’m in Texas)

    1. Marie Spiridigliozzi says:

      There was a friend who grew up with him, I think his name is Moscowitz, they played board games together, and softball. He said that when Levi was a child he was normal, when he got older, he changed, not the same person. I don’t think we are going to hear anything from his father. Hs name was never given, he is probably embarassed.

  26. Patrick Marsh says:

    I am a very knowledgeable WWII buff who doesn’t need Google to make an argument so make no mistake I can back up my thoughts with historical fact. I can rationally compartmentalize Goebbel’s crazy people killer policy and the disgusting jewish genocide policy. I personally find them both equally reprehensible. In fact, my comment was directed at Zev’s opinion we should throw him in general population and let him be killed.

    1. Caroline says:

      Why is throwing him in with the general population a bad idea?

      Does he deserve mercy and understanding? Protective custody? cabe tv and carpeting under his feet?

      What’s to be gained by keeping him alive?

      He deserves to go straight to hell.

    2. IgnoranteElephante says:

      Pat, I don’t need google either and I don’t need to self purport to be a “knowledgeable WWII buff” which is code name for loser. I can debate you for hours.

      1. Rodin says:

        He didn’t answer and I was so ready to join the brawl….

      2. Patrick Marsh says:

        Mistake personal attacks for logic much? I’m sure you could debate me for hours. By the way, you failed to mention how a trial does the evaluation to see if he’s insane. The reason that last sentence didn’t make sense is because DOCTORS make that call. Just like the ones back in 1940 Germany.

      3. Rodin says:

        Glad to get into the fray!

        The “attack” is on your arrogant claims, the arrogance of piety, religious or political. “Buff,” your own self-discriptive term, reeks of inferiority. Covering your butt, just in case?

        The truth here is that YOU have no arguments and are out of topic. Arrogance must suffice.

        Mind you, I.E. (got it right this time) and I are philosophical arch-rivals!

      4. Patrick Marsh says:

        Robin, you have yet again violated the laws of logic. It’s called begging the question. I will only address this once for you since you think it’s that important rather than addressing my argument.

        I am not a historian. I do not have any kind of history degree. This has been a particular interest of mine for many years. A common term for someone who has studied this for a long time is – WWII Buff. You can call it what you will. It was simply to let whoever engaged me know that I will debate the facts. At least IgnoranteElephante addressed my argument. You have not. Try addressing my argument next time please.

      5. Rodin says:

        1 – What argument? You posed none. You have none. You jump from one thing to the next without making any sense.

        2 – “Buff” implies amateurish, lacking legitimacy and authority. Serve yourself. Agrred, “historian” you are NOT, perhaps “hysteric.”

        3 – Still lacking arguments, you will NOT succeed in your childish game of trying to play IE and I against each other. We are loving arch-rivals.

        4 – It’s RoDin like the French sculptor, not RoBin as in Batman. It’s really my first-born Schnauzer’s name. He lets me use it cuz his paws don’t let him type.

        Beauty without Vanity,
        Strength without Insolence,
        Courage without Ferocity,
        And all the Virtues of Man without his Vices.
        This Praise, which would be unmeaning Flattery
        If inscribed over human ashes,
        Is but a just tribute to the Memory of
        BOATSWAIN, a DOG.

        – George Gordon, Lord Byron

      6. Rodin says:

        Before you pounce, “agree.” Finger in wrong key beats foot in mouth anytime.

      7. Patrick Marsh says:

        RODIN… I read your response, and it’s quite astounding. I guess spouting witty phrases make you think you’ve said something of substance. Have fun quoting quotes and turning phrases. They are fun read. If you feel the need to ever construct a real argument, you are certainly free to so. By the way, many a raconteur have unknowingly crossed the fine line between witty and witless.

    3. IgnoranteElephante says:

      Mistake pompous self righteous claims for logic much? 1930s Germany, a doctor made the call based on an “examination” which merely consisted of his unchecked, subjective belief driven by Hitler and Goebbels.

      In a criminal trial in modern America, his insanity would save him from death, not condemn him to it, as was the case in Nazi Germany. Thus, it is the opposite. (The Supreme Court has roundly rejected executing the mentally ill.)

      A doctor would not alone determine the mental condition. He would express an opinion, subject to cross examination, and the opinion of the defendant’s doctor. Because of the cross examination and adverse medical opinions, the doctors would.have to reveal objective facts supporting their conclusions. The.accused can pick of his choosing and, if he cannot afford one, the state would appoint one, much like an attorney.

      At the end, a jury, not the judge or the physicians, would have the final say as to the accused’s capacity.

      Thus, your comparisons are unfounded and based on fallacy. I would think a WWII “buff” would know how to differiante Hitler’s “Euthanasia” with modern day capital punishment.

      Thank you, Rodin for putting him in check in my absence.

      1. Patrick Marsh says:

        If my comparison is unfounded and based on fallacy, then why does your new and improved argument include the doctors roles? The original trajectory of the argument was directed at the notion we should “throw him to his death.” You then stated my comparison to 1939 euthanasia policy held no merit.

        Of course, there are big differences in how the U.S. system works today versus how it was done in 1939 (in Germany and the U.S.) It would be silly of me to even try and argue against this. Unfortunately, you have erected a very cohesive and solid false comparison. Obviously you could go on for days pointing out the differences. How about addressing the similarities which was the original trajectory. In addition, how much do you think the Nazis would’ve cared if a Jewish crazy person killed an innocent young Jewish boy? They wouldn’t have. They would have “thrown him to his death” (I think we’ve heard that here already) or sent him to a Doctor who would’ve done the same. You can obviously point out the differences in how we handle it today through the trial system. That is an unmovable position. What you cannot do is argue the end result which was what I originally attacked (Zen’s comment.)

        I applaude your cohesive analysis of the differences in today’s trial system. Unfortunately, I can rightly adjudge this as a solidly crafted red herring which steers the discussion away from the original trajectory and comparison. Obviously, there are differences. The end result, however, is the similarity of throwing a crazy person to their death. In short, I think both arguments have merit. I have acknowledged yours. If you cannot acknowledge mine, then we can agree to disagree.

        Lastly, by your own words you are admitting you built a straw man. Your last comment summarized this by stating, “…differentiate Hitler’s Euthanasia with modern day capital punishment.” I guess one way to win an argument is to make mine up for me then attack it. I never compared these two concepts. I compared the policy with Zen’s comment. Surely, someone who crafted such a solid argument would not have missed this.

      2. IgnoranteElephante says:

        You absolutely compared it to the death penalty. You said “That’s right Zev. Just kill the crazy person. Where have we heard this ideology in the past?”

        Doctors are used to refute a claim of insanity. The only relation insanity has to death is that if proven insane, you cannot be put to death. This is the opposite of 1930s Germany where any perceived genetic defect, physical or mental, got you the “special treatment.” Thus, a convicted murder is put to death unless he is insane. The mental defect here, again, saves him unlike in Germany.

        Doctors are used to help jurors reach a conclusion, but the jury is free to reject their conclusions with the caveat that, if the judge feels, they ignored evidence that conclusively and uncontrovertibly demonstrated insanity, the judge can overrule the jury and spare the defendant from death. The converse is not true. The judge could not overrule a verdict of insane and proceed with death. Again, the insanity is a defense that is often the last saving grace of an accused facing a death sentence.

    4. Bubbys says:

      I agree with you Patrick. The last thing we want to do in response to a murder is to descend to the animal level of the murderer. We are lucky to live in a democracy where people have the right to a trial by jury. If justice will not be served, I depend on G-d to bring him to justice. However, there is too much evidence in this case, so I am not worried about Aron being let back out in the society. We don’t need revenge, we need justice and safety.
      Incidentally, since Leiby and Aron are Jews, according to Jewish law, detailed in the Talmud, the court’s ability to apply the death penalty was extremely difficult. Nowadays, since we are in exile, we certainly may not wish for violence, nor mete it out.

      1. IgnoranteElephante says:

        You have got to be kidding me! First, you post that anti Semitism is a crime when, as I hope you’re aware, non threatening speech is constitutionally protected no matter how much any one group is offended by it.
        Now, you cite the Talmud as lthe applicable aw because both the perpetrator and victim are Jews. You single handedly have proven all of my comments about special laws and treatment for special people true.

        I’m glad you’re up on the Talmud, but get this through your head, the Talmud has no bearing on what goes on in a New York court. The Jewishness of any party in this bizarre saga will be irrelevant to the outcome of a trial unlike it did in the events leading up to this tragedy.

        The fact that you feel the need to chime in that it does is telling. Those who called me an anti Semite should read this.

      2. IgnoranteElephante says:

        Your comment also raises the following concern. Since the Talmud says that the death penalty is extremely difficult in Jew on Jew crime, is it easier when a non Jew kills a Jew? In other words, I take what you say to mean that a Jew’s life is valued more than a gentile.

        What about Gentile on Jew crime, does that Talmud make death mandatory without a trial?

        There is nobdeath penalty in New York, but that you think that if it were around, a court should have special rules for Jews is down right scary. It seems you acquiesce in the separate Jewish court concept while, at the same time, you deny they exist or have any power in Borough Park.

  27. IgnoranteElephante says:

    Pat, comparing killing a murderer who you claims crazy to Hitler’s Euthanasia program is uncalled for an disgusting. If he is found guilty, I would say he deserves to be executed based on the facts as I have heard them. Doctor Goebbels, via Hitler’s policy, executed those that they subjectively thought were racially impure based on physical or mental illness. There was no trial, and there certainly was no evidence to suggest that the victims killed anyone.

    I note that these victim’s of the “special treatment” were of all German creeds.

    1. Patrick Marsh says:

      Do you really think a formal trial makes a distinction here? Hitler gave doctor’s free license to kill back in 1939. If we put a crazy person in a mental institution, doctors don’t euthanize them.

      1. IgnoranteElephante says:

        He’d have to prove his craziness first. The trial means everything here.

    2. Rodin says:

      Go to :

      Leiby Kletzky’s Family Creates Website To Raise Money For Needy Children And Families

      latest comment:
      Is this fund only for Jewish recipients?

      This is gonna be a winner!

    3. Patrick Marsh says:

      It’s a little hard to follow a debate here. You’ve obviously got skills. I rather like your style. I normally debate people regarding current events at Dr. Casey Jordan’s FB page. It’s a well moderated page with plenty of fresh topics. If you are on FB, you can go to She’s a criminologist/attorney/professor who appears regularly on HLN, ABC, CNN, and In Session. She also moderates the page herself. I will be happy to continue a debate with you there anytime. FYI, I don’t work for her. I just stumbled across her page during the Casey Anthony trial.

  28. Patrick Marsh says:

    That’s right Zev. Just kill the crazy person. Where have we heard this ideology in the past? Mein Kampf. perhaps.. I heard about through @CaseyJordan. I wonder what a real criminologist thinks…

    1. M says:

      If this maniac had killed your son, would you still feel the way you do?

      Some people are able to be rehabilitated.

      Violent sociopath/ psychopath maniac child killers are not.

      We can send him to live with you if you feel so strongly about his welfare.

      1. Patrick Marsh says:

        If a maniac killed my son, I would drive to his house with my own crime scene tape. 🙂

  29. Zev says:

    Upon conviction, just shove him in with the general population. The taxpayers will soon be relieved of the burden of his room and board.

    1. rina says:

      great idea!!!!!!!!! I second it

    2. AlwaysActions Buff says:

      *Donate* To The Leiby Kletzky Memorial Fund. Coping With Grief by Doing Good. http://bit­.ly/nPAdy5

      1. Rodin says:

        … stay on welfare and pay no taxes….

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