Possible Showdown Looms Between City, Protesters Ahead Of Zuccotti Park Cleaning

'Occupy Wall Street' To Fight 'Eviction Notice,' But Apparently Has Backup Plan

October 13, 2011 11:59 PM

Demonstrators with ‘Occupy Wall Street’ protest at Zuccotti Park start cleaning up their belongings October 13, 2011 . (credit: TIMOTHY A. CLARY/AFP/Getty Images)

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NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – Friday morning could be the beginning of the end of the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstration.

On Thursday, Brookfield Office Management employees were passing out notices to protesters, who have been camped out for 26 days, saying that tarps, sleeping bags and tents are all prohibited in the park, as is lying on the ground and on benches when it becomes an interference for others.

CBS 2 learned late Thursday night the protestors are preparing in case they cannot base their operations out of Zuccotti Park anymore. They are now encouraging people to occupy Tompkins Square Park in the East Village.

“They might as well as just said ‘You’re done,’” one protester told CBS 2′s Ann Mercogliano earlier Thursday.

“This is an eviction notice,” said another.

In relentless solidarity, members of Occupy Wall Street marched to City Hall delivering thousands of petitions to stop Mayor Michael Bloomberg from plowing through Zuccotti with the NYPD and a clean-up crew Friday morning.

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In response to the new regulations, Occupy Wall Street called for supporters to come to Zuccotti Park at 6 a.m. on Friday to “defend the occupation from eviction.” In a statement on their website, the group also encouraged supporters to call 311 and demand that the mayor “support our right to assemble and to not interfere with #OWS.”

That statement also went on to say that if Mayor Bloomberg really cared about sanitation at the park, “he should support the installation of portopans and dumpsters.”

ows notice Possible Showdown Looms Between City, Protesters Ahead Of Zuccotti Park Cleaning

This is the flyer being distributed to protesters on Oct. 13, 2011. (credit: CBS 2)

The notification followed Wednesday night’s announcement by the mayor’s office that protesters need to leave the park on Friday so it can get cleaned up.

“The last three weeks have created unsanitary conditions and considerable wear and tear on the park,” said the mayor’s office.

Protestors have been diligently cleaning up the park with soapy brooms, and piling up trash on the curb. Nevertheless, Bloomberg outlined a 12-hour plan to scrub down the park starting at 7 a.m.

The cleaning operation is set to take place in three stages, each lasting about four hours. Protesters will have to move from portions of the park that are being cleaned. Although the protesters can return to the cleaned areas of the park, they have to abide by the rules. And those strict rules distributed Thursday seem to suggest a showdown with the NYPD may be imminent.

Legal experts said the city will be breaking the law if they bring in the cops to clear the park without a court order.

“They would be breaching the law. They would be violating those folks who they would seek to remove and possibly arrest, their fundamental rights to utilize the park and to express their opinions and exercise their First Amendment rights,” Yetta Kurland, with the National Lawyers Guild, told CBS 2′s Hazel Sanchez.

Thursday night, several city leaders also spoke out in support of the occupation.

“It’s up to the mayor and everybody at City Hall to change course. To sit down with the people of Occupy Wall Street and find a peaceful way forward,” said Public Advocate Bill DeBlasio.

“This is the beginning of a movement and you know what, you may not want to hear this, but this is how revolutions start,” said Councilman Charles Barron.

Bloomberg visited the park Wednesday night. He was greeted by a mix of cheers and jeers. His office says that after the park is sanitized, the protesters are welcome to return.

Some folks opposed to the Occupy Wall Street movement have taken to calling them the “Flea Party,” mocking their makeshift camp and ad-hoc cleanup crews.

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Some protesters say they’ve gone to great lengths to keep the park clean.

“I think the mayor and some of his ‘clonies’ are trying to use tactics to get us to move out of the park,” one demonstrator told 1010 WINS’ John Montone.

“There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty,” said demonstrator Gene Wagner. “If you would’ve given us a Port-A-Potty 30 days ago, we would’ve maintained it ourselves.”

“Every day, all day, we clean up the park,” Max Hodes told CBS 2′s Dave Carlin.

1010 WINS’ John Montone reports some protesters don’t trust the mayor

“This is a protest; it’s not a camping area. People aren’t camping here, they’re protesting and we have the right to have sleeping bags. Where are they gonna sleep? How are they gonna protest? Without sleeping bags, they can’t protest,” one demonstrator told 1010 WINS’ Stan Brooks.

1010 WINS’ Stan Brooks Hears From Protesters

(credit: John Montone/1010 WINS)

Some protesters who found themselves caught in rain squalls Thursday morning took shelter in a Bank of America ATM kiosk to stay dry.

WINS’ John Montone asked a protester if there was anything ironic about that.

“We’re using them like they use us,” was the reply he got.

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They also got a boost from musician Tom Morello of Rage Against The Machine. Morello put on a performance at Zuccotti Park on Thursday.

While the mayor has said the park will be cleaned Friday, the protesters don’t seem to be making any plans on going anywhere. They’ve planned a “Family Sleep Over” in the park, set to start at 4 p.m. Friday.

What’s more, the weekend looks as though it may be a busy one for the demonstrators. According to their website, they’re planning a “Mass March on the Banks” followed by a plan to “Occupy Times Square” at 5 p.m. Saturday.

According to the site, the function in Times Square will be a party “in the festive sense of the word.” At 6:30 p.m. Saturday, there’s an event planned called “Occupy the Subway,” but no details on that have been made available.

All of those planned events meant little to some nearby businesses. Mike Keane, owner of nearby O’Hara’s Pub, told CBS 2′s Carlin demonstrators use his bathrooms and disrupt his business.

“I really hope this circus moves on. I’ve had my fill of these people,” Keane said.

He said the clean-up plan is not enough.

“Somebody’s going to wind up getting killed and maybe then someone will say let’s get them out of here. Hopefully it doesn’t take that,” Keane said.

Tell us your thoughts about the Occupy Wall Street movement in our comments section below.

Possible Showdown Looms Between City, Protesters Ahead Of Zuccotti Park Cleaning

Stinky Leg

These people are a drain on society. Go out and contribute in a meaningful way. Always wanting a hand out or complaining incessantly is unproductive.

If your objective is socialism, then say so. If your objective is to elect a specific political party, then say so. If your end objective is violence, then say so. Your ambiguity is dangerous in itself.
Scott Glasel

Who’s behind all of this? The “Working Families Party” which is run by Obama’s “Karl Rove type of guy” (White House political director Patrick Gaspard). This is a white House operation people!  Obama political advisor Patrick Gaspard holds the same White House position his Bush-era predecessor, Karl Rove, did. But before he was the White House political czar he worked in several far left organizations as activist and agitator.

One of the more disturbing aspects of the Obama-ACORN connection is that the White House political affairs director is one Patrick Gaspard. 

http://www.workingfamiliesparty.org/

New York’s Working Families Party was first organized in 1998 by a coalition of labor unions, ACORN and other community organizations, members of the now-inactive national New Party, and a variety of public interest groups such as Citizen Action of New York.

Regulas

In simple terms of who is behind this, Communists.
Bumbaclaat

This sounds like one of Glenn Beck’s crazy chalkboard conspiracy theories and you have the facts wrong.

The original calls for the protest came from an organization called “Adbusters” which is not connected to Obama in any way (look them up – they are based in Vancouver), and also from the hacker group “Anonymous” – not from the Working Families Party

amabO kcuF

Like Regulas said …. communists.
51 Phantom

Adbusters is connected with George Soros however. Soros is behind a lot of crap going on in this country.
whodat1

So what the hell is a Canadian group doing, trying to tell us in the US how to live???
typical white woman

The name isn’t important but the fact that George Soros is funding these nincompoops is.
Albert MacMeda

Why are Canadians interfering with American economic progress?

Anti-semitic Canadians, in fact.

Canadians funded by, despite your pathetic attempt to ignore, belittle or deny it, the Tides Foundation, funded in other words by GEORGE SOROS!

and look! Soros funded moveon.org is also supporting OWS!

But wait, there’s more.

You can dismiss them in your own mind as “crazy chalkboard theories” if you wish, but they’re also facts you’d be a fool to deny. You do know they’re all true, don’t you?

The OWS protest, the one that started it all, is being held where? Zuccoti Park. Owned by? Brookfield. .

Heather Podesta is the wife of lobbyist, Tony Podesta, who is the brother of President Obama’s White House Transition Director John Podesta. Brookfield Management is represented by the lobby firm of Heather Podesta and Partners, LLC. Heather is also a top financial bundler for Democrat Politicians. John Podesta is the director for Center for American Progress, which is funded by George Soros. Van Jones also sits on the board at Center for American Progress.

Sound familiar? From what you said you apparently were, at least at one time, dedicated to Glenn Beck and his ideas, in some capacity.

Obama has his stinking dirty fingerprints all over this in those and other ways. Democrats are already calling to suspend elections – you down with that, too?

These tools don’t realize they’re the typical cannon fodder the left uses to ignite the flames of revolution that leads to marxist takeover then slow, painful death of any society it controls.

And tools like you are to blame.

One can only hope when the thing turns violent you’re close by and see firsthand what idiots like you have imposed on us with your uninformed nonsense voting.

Bumbaclaat

Twice as many Americans view Occupy Wall Street favorably than view Tea Party favorably – http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-morning-plum/2011/10/13/gIQAULRHhL_blog.html

Steve Roberts

Unfortunately, that is probably true and is a sad reflection of our dumbed-down entitlement minded citizenry so well characterized by the OWS crowd. Good news is Tea Party people will vote in greater numbers while the Fleabaggers will sit around and whine and demand somebody to fix their lives.

bear knucklez

It’s also a reflection of the liberal media who choose what light with which to show the two movements. And by movements, I mean the tea party movement or the bowel movement. Oh how I hope someone does not use this as a “get out the vote” registration campaign.

Raistlin4

Yeah, and the Wash Po is well known for their backing of conservative causes. I would trust a poll in that rag about as far as I could throw their building. And, believe me, for every avowed Tea Party member there are 20 who feel just a strongly but will say they aren’t part of the Tea Party. Why? Because if a Wall Street Fleabagger told a TP member who they were, the TP member would pity them and say they should get educated and try to help explain things to them. If a TP member admits who they are to a Fleabagger, you end up with a lunatic screaming in your face, calling you a racist/misogynist/homophobe/warmonger, protesting on your front lawn and threatening the lives of your family. FB’s take pride in their violence and the fact that they can scare you into submission. So why would somebody claim to be a TP member and take all that violence? The silent 20 stay silent, then come out in force on election day. Then the Wash Po poll will be shown to be useful for nothing more than wiping the butts of these Wall Street occupiers.
Albert MacMeda

Lies and propaganda. The 53% are tired of carrying the 47% and wish they’d quit their whining. The lunatic liberals at various media outlets are desperate to do anything, including starting an armed insurrection, to enable Obama and the doomed Democrats to survive another term in office but it’s not happening.

Wake up

“There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty,” said demonstrator Gene Wagner.
So now it is a right to have the government provide you with a place to take a dump? I say $hit in your hat, pull it over your ears and call it curles.

Dan in Twin Cities

“There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty,” said demonstrator Gene Wagner. “If you would’ve given us a Port-A-Potty 30 days ago, we would’ve maintained it ourselves.”

This is such a great quote because so beautifully it demonstrates the mindset and goals of this mob: Gimme-gimme-gimme. Take care of me ‘cuz I’m too stupid and or lazy to take care of myself.

And listen to what he says, “If you have given us a port-a-potty 30 days ago, we would’ve maintained it ourselves.”

No you wouldn’t! You would be waiting for “them”, for the government to pay to service them!
This should tell you something too about the organizers and high-profile supporters. If they were really serious about anything other than creating chaos, they, meaning the George Soroses, Van Jones, Al Gore, Nancy Pelosi, the unions and whoever whatever other leftist progressive radicals instigated it, would be shelling out the bucks to provide for basic sanitation needs rather than leaving the cities to foot the bill.

Nothing but a bunch of selfish spoiled brats.
Busia

That is the best thing I ever heard. Thanks for making me laugh. You are soooo right!
Bumbaclaat

NYC does provide public toilets in most city parks, in the subways, and other public places.. Why do you think that’s such a bad thing ?

Raistlin4

BECAUSE IT’S NOT A PUBLIC PARK!!! It’s private property and the owner shouldn’t have to pay for the sanitation of a herd of lunatics who decided to invade his property. And even if it was public land, why should the taxpayers of NYC pay for sanitation for your protest? NYC provides sanitation in public places as a courtesy to be utilized under an expected, manageable level of daily use. Not to provide for a riot!! I swear to God, this boils down their mentality and ideology to its pure essence: “I’m alive. I’m here. Therefore, as of my right, YOU must provide for my every need, cradle to grave, regardless of whether my predicament is of my own choosing and making.”

Craig Brockman

ACLU is already lining up at civil court ready to sue the NYPD and the City.

Regulas

ACLU, founded by a known communist and still is.

Archy Cary

I thought Bloomey said they could stay as long as they want!

Yogi Bear

He did, but they are sleeping in their own feces like animals. This is a public health hazard. I’m sure they can come back once it’s cleaned.

Babylonian

that’s false. they are using toilets at mcdonalds and other places nearby

Pweets

He clearly misspoke. It’s private property.

Richard Tattersall

If they decide to stay, good luck trying to arrest hundreds of people. Not a chance. All it will do is motivate MORE people world-wide, to join the protest’s . 1st Amendment. “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or “THE RIGHT OF THE PEOPLE TO PEACEABLY
ASSEMBLE.”,and to “PETITION THE GOVERNMENT FOR A REDRESS OF GRIEVANCES”
Welcome to The United States.

Michael H.

THIS. The people who are ridiculing these protesters are ignoring the first and foremost quality that makes America the great nation it is.

RuRu

What about when the Tea Party was ridiculed, did you say something then??

Michael H.

Actually, yes. I argued against their message, not them personally. Most of the comments here are personal attacks against the #OWS protesters.

Craig Brockman

Because the message of lower taxes and smaller government by the Tea Party is something that needs to be argued – PLEASE!

Michael H.

I was all for it until it was co-opted by the GOP and social issues came to the forefront. Show me a candidate who is fiscally conservative and socially liberal and I’ll throw my full support behind them.

Gary Johnson is one of those candidates, but has been sidelined by the Tea Party and GOP establishment.

Regulas

The Tea Party is made up of patriots and many are Christians and having good moral values is a good thing. I guess you are one of these Sodomite lovers and believe it is a woman’s right to murder her unborn child, if so you are anti-Christ.
Dan in Twin Cities

“I was all for it until it was co-opted by the GOP and social issues came to the forefront.”

I don’t know what Tea Party you are referring to. Surely you have not forgotten last year’s election? If anything, the G.O.P. establishment wishes it COULD co-opt the Tea Parties. What was John McCain’s disparaging remark he made about them? My guess is, if you went to a Tea Party rally and asked for three cheers for John Boehner you’d get a very tepid response if not stoney silence. The Tea Parties are the only thing keeping the establishment “Repubics” ( as Mark Levin calls them) in line.
As for social issues, those have been a part of Republican platforms for at least the last 30 years because the Democrats have yet to find a sin they won’t support.

Me in MN

I live in the TC too. I love you Dan, great comments!

Regulas

Exactly right and if you do not believe are government is out of control you are either an idiot or a communist.

Dan in Twin Cities

So you are against the Federal government operating within the parameters of the Constitution of the United States, against the government not spending more than it takes in, letting people keep more of what they earn and curtailing intrusion into our daily lives and onerous over-regulation which inhibits economic growth?

Michael H.

That’s not what the Tea Party stands for now that it has been co-opted by the GOP. When it was a grassroots force raising money for Ron Paul I was all for it.

patmurphy1965

When there’s a TEA party rally; we meet to advance our values and then move on!
liz

The same people who ridiculed the Tea Party praise the Occupy Wall Steet people and are the protestors. Who is surprised, they are all hippacrates. Hate big corporations who contribute to politicians…but the Occupy crowd are being funded and helped by unions…who contribute to politicians. Hate the rich, unless they are the stars that visit them in the park. Hate the corporations, unless they have provided them their iphones, ipads and the park in which they have claimed…if you want to be taken seriously, start looking in the mirror….protest during the day, then go home. You have taken the park away from ordinary people using it..you have no right to do that.

Rob F

You seem to be missing a crucial point. Imagine that! Zuccotti Park is PRIVATE PROPERTY! Your First Amendment Rights end at the curb. I love how you hypocrite Liberals quote the Constitution, as a shield, when it conveniently supports your cause. Do you feel as strongly about the 2nd Amendment? Look it up! It’s on Wikipedia too.

Michael H.

Private property that is mandated for public use. Read up on the history of Zuccotti Park. it’s on Wikipedia too.

Rob F

It’s still PRIVATE PROPERTY. Your point???

Michael H.

Brookfield cannot restrict who has access to the park, that’s my point.

bear knucklez

But the people are restricting access to the park and are destroying this private party. Brookfield can put restrictions on the rules… and who gets the bill for the clean up? I’m certain it will be passed along to the city so the taxpayers there can cover the cost.

Michael H.

Nobody is being prevented from using the park. It is still open to the public and you can still enter the park. No private property is being destroyed. Volunteer clean up crews are working day and night to keep the park clean.

William

It’s a privately owned public space, which definitely works in OWS’ favor in terms of 24-hour access. But the owner is allowed to apply rules to the use of the space, which they have, and OWS clearly violates them. I’m far from an expert, though, so I have no idea how the owner enforces the rules if they decide to – can the NYPD come in? Do they have to provide their own people to enforce the rules?

Naima Green

The congress isn’t making any laws.
The police are going to arrest people.

Richard Tattersall

The law exists. THAT’S what the constitution is. Go back to school are how this country was founded. “Any” law that violates the Constitutional rights of the citizens of this counter is illegal.

patmurphy1965

However, if your actions interfere with my freedom and liberties, then you have broken the law. You and your “cause” don’t have more right than others. If you think you do; you’re 100% wrong and 99% a fool.
1st Lt USMC

Sorry but that park is PRIVATE PROPERTY. I can tell you to get off my lawn all I want, you have no RIGHT to be there at all. This is not a city-owned park, do some fact checking before you start pulling out constitutional rights…

Richard Tattersall

Look up the agreement with the city regarding access to the park. Public access 24/7.
patmurphy1965

It’s for public use; not just your private use. and that’s why the park owner is having them removed.

Bumbaclaat

the protesters ARE the public.. the park is still open to the public, it has not been taken for private use

littleleers

It has been taken for private use as there is no camping allowed! I live in Washington State and our city parks, public and private clearly state NO overnight camping.

Not obeying the rules IS taking away the liberties of the public to enjoy the park AS a park, not a private campground!

Craig Brockman

Obviously you have never seen the NYPD Task Force at work in Tompkins Sq, Million Youth March, and Crown Heights. Just more overtime BABY – KA-CHING!
Pay_Your_Fair_Share

What part of “private park” don’t you get? The first amendment does not give one the right to assemble on private property. Its very nice of Brookfield Office Properties to let them stay there and protest on their property. What a great and malevolent corporation…

Flea baggers, too stupid to “get it”.

Want people to pay their “fair share”? Ask the unions to start paying taxes. You realize they don’t, right? Think about this, the stimulus gave money directly to the unions (tax free) who then donated it directly back to the politicians to the tune of millions of dollars. Think about that. The government confiscated money via taxes and laundered/redistributed it to the politicians’ war chests. Which politicians? Check it out:

http://www.opensecrets.org/orgs/list.php

Once the unions pay their fair share, we can start working on the tax code to eliminate the “loopholes” in the tax law benefiting corporations. There’s way more revenue to be found (and corruption to be cleaned) in the unions.

Richard Tattersall

I have absolutely no idea what “union” you could possibly be referring to. I’m a member of Local #1 IATSE. The International Alliance of Theatrical Stage Employees. WE PAY TAXES.. It’s in our constitution and bye laws that no money from any fund managed, or belonging to the union, can be donated to any political fund.. The books are available to all the members on the website. They’re printed in our monthly news letters. You can set-up on-line, or by mail. The are no TWO sets of books. The problem is, that’s extremely rare. The Supreme Court sold us out. Any law that limits the amount of money that can be donated by any union or corporation violates the 1st amendment. I’ve been trying to figure out what they were taking when they ruled that Corporations, and Unions are “people”.

Evil Corporations

This is all about FREE FREE FREE WE WANT STUFF. They even want a free porta potty. bunch of mooooochers. WE dont want to work but we want free. I even read another artical that people are quiting their jobs to join this thing. I say gievm what they want. NO MORE CORPORATIONS. Which means. No cell phones no video cameras no cars no life saving drugs or life saving medical equipment or tvs or radios no airplanes NO Ntohing! OH and no jobs. All that would be left are the corrupted public unions except they wouldnt last cause there would be nobody to pay for it. Stop whining about not being rich and get off your ass and WORK to get rich. Stop begging for other peoples money you losers!
Speaknup

Only problem is, they’re assembling on somebody else’s property. The “peaceable assembly” clause was put in to protect people from being arrested for getting together in homes, churches, and assembly halls for the purpose of bad-mouthing or discussing actions against the government. It wasn’t meant to allow one group of citizens to park on somebody else’s private property so they can protest a completely different bunch of private entities (banks, rich people, etc.) If you want to understand the Constitution, you should read the Founding Fathers.
Don R

II have to laugh when libs quote the Constitution, which they hate, when they think it protects their rights. This is PRIVATE PROPERTY Richard. Does the Constitution give me the right to camp out in your house because I want to protest? Additionally, where in the Constitution does it say successful, working people must support people who choose not to work?
Albert MacMeda

I hope they do try to stay. I hope they stay ALL WINTER. I hope you’re OK with paying for the removal of their frozen corpses before they start stinking with the spring thaw.

Government lackeys may not be willing to re-impose the rule of law on these idiots – but that’s OK. Nature soon will.

Global warming won’t save them, because it, too, was a big leftist lie.

william

I just don’t understand what it is they hope to accomplish by this tactic. There’s no clear message. There’s no endgame strategy. The heart is in the right place…just not the head. It just comes across as burning man nyc. Sorry but that’s just how it looks.

Michael H.

Whatever it is, it’s working, because these style protests are popping up all over the country and have spread to the UK. They don’t need a clear agenda to affect change. They just need to continue to express their dissatisfaction with the current system. The main goal is to put the power back into the hands of the flesh and blood people, and take the power away from the corporations that have bought our government.

JohnF

They aren’t protests .. they are a bunch of disorganized people hanging out with conflicting or meaningless signs. Such as ‘End corporate greed’. What the heck does that mean?? And who is going to define the difference between ‘greed’ and ‘profit’. Or is all profit just greed. If it is, then they are asking for the removal of capitalism. Otherwise, they just want to dictate ‘how much is enough’, and we all know that has never worked in the history of the world. They seem to forget the concept of ‘supply’ and ‘demand’, or how setting blanket taxes across business just means their prices will go up and the 99% they claim to be a part of will just end up paying more.

When these numb-nuts come up with some real ideas, I’ll pay attention. Until then, they should go home until they can learn to wipe their bottoms instead of asking mommy government to do it for them.

Michael H.

You must have missed all the marches and organized protests that have occurred all over the city. Zuccotti Park is just the home base for #OWS.

http://www.dynamicsalesgrowth.com Paul McCord

I am pleased that these are simply a bunch of professional protesters, homeless looking for meal, kids with nothing to do looking to party, and leftwing nut jobs of every stripe hoping for their 15 minutes of fame. They’re just a wisp of meaningless smoke that will clear and go away in no time. When Hugo, Iran, SEIU, the communist party, the socialist organizations, teacher’s union, and Democrat party all screaming “you owe me free stuff” “you owe me free stuff” “you owe me free stuff” in unison, I know it is nothing more than a passing amusement–but it is very, very amusing. If I weren’t distracted by the far more serious and important playoffs; I’d have more time to watch the freak show. Hopefully the Rangers can put the series away quickly and these freaks will still be making fools of themselves so I’ll really have time to watch before it fades away.

Albert MacMeda

Good – then that will mean no more big bucks donations to Obama and the Democrats and we can finally sweep them out of office once and for all and get down to work fixing all the messes they’ve made over several decades.

It’s about time!

Bumbaclaat

What is the “clear message” and “endgame strategy” of the tea party ? there is none.

liz

lol…..don’t you read? the clear message:
Obey the Constitution
Lower Taxes (on those of us that pay them…51% of people pay NO income taxes)
Smaller government……the government is not here to take care of us cradle to grave and manage every little part of our lives
BALANCE the budget….don’t spend more than you take in
ENDGAME…..Elect people that promise to do the above
How about getting the 51% of the people who pay NO Income taxes to pay therir fair share
Albert MacMeda

Are you retarded or just stupid.

Start with the name:

TAXED ENOUGH ALREADY.

Next, to the government – LIVE WITHIN YOUR MEANS. WE’RE NOT PIGGY BANKS YOU CAN BREAK EACH TIME YOUR CHILDISH WHIMS MAKE YOU WANT TO SPEND OUR MONEY FOOLISHLY!

The rest? You figure it out, unless you’re as ignorant as your posts suggest, in which case I’m wasting my time as you don’t have the comprehension necessary to get it anyway.

whodat1

These are practice runs for next year. The prequel if you will. They will try to grow these in size over the next 12 months when it will erupt in violence, thus giving the WH reason to suspend the elections.

NYGirl

These people should be protesting in Washington in front of the White House, not in a park infringing on other people’s rights. Go where the problem lies and that’s in the White House and Washington. See what starts to come about when you do that.

Michael H.

Whose rights are they infringing and what specific rights are being infringed?

Tbone

The park is privately owned. Therefore they are infringing upon the rights of the property owner, Brookfield Office. In addition, the protester’s occupancy is preventing the public from using the park. Sleeping in the park, among other infractions including drug use and lewd behavior, is against the agreement reached between the private property owner and the city.

Adhere to the rules governing the private park or go to a truly public park.
cwt

Mine. I would like to sit in the park and enjoy it.

Michael H.

You can go sit in the park. Nobody is going to stop you. What you would “like” and what are your “rights” are two different things.

Don R

Michael, you just defined the why this whole “Occupy” movement is stupid. What you would “like” and what are your “rights” are two different things. I’d like to be wealthy too, but I know sitting on my ass in some park isn’t going to get me there.

Albert MacMeda

All the people who would be using that park for sensible things if these nasty, idiotic morons weren’t making an open sewer of the place.

liz

They can’t do that because the whole idea here is to cause chaos and class warfare…which our dear President started Besides, they are backed by the unions, who love Obama. Most of these people are libs, they can’t look like they are protesting against Obama! But you are right, the protest belongs in DC because that is where the problem is and that is where the solution is.

Abraham Lincoln

I have seen these protesters having homo sex in their sleeping bags in the park.

KFCindaHouse

There is a new study out today that states 25-33 % of gay NY men have HIV.
Rush

No surprise there…

Oh and, hippies smell…
Albert MacMeda

Good thing there is low cost HIV medication that keeps them alive and spreading it indefinitely, paid for at your & my tax expense, of course, eh?

michaelfury

“Freedom’s untidy”

- Donald Rumsfeld

http://michaelfury.wordpress.com/2011/08/09/testify/
E Drews

=> “There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty,” said demonstrator Gene Wagner. “If you would’ve given us a Port-A-Potty 30 days ago, we would’ve maintained it ourselves.” <=

Ah yes, an group protesting government actions wants government money to support their protest. More attempts to waste US taxpayer dollars.

Whay is that protester using an American Flag as a blanket? What a disgrace!! Hundreds of thousands, if not millions, of people fought and died for that flag, and for YOUR right to protest, and now one of them shows extreme disrespect for the flag.

Michael H.

Take a look at a Tea Party rally and you’ll see the flag being used in ways it was not meant to be and would be considered disrespectful. The flag doesn’t mean much when it no longer represents a government of the people, by the people and for the people. Now it is a government sold to the highest bidder.

SandlesTOSandlesIN3

Look up flag rules on the Internet.
You’ll have a new found respect for what it means when a flag touches the ground.

Michael H.

I know the United States Flag Code. I also know that the SCOTUS has ruled that punitive action against those who violate the flag code would violate the First Amendment.
Prophetic Profiteer

Ahh yes, the flag! The most genious form of propaganda ever invented. Commit autorocities, violate religious code and morals by following the flag. Cheer for your team and forget that we are all humans. P H U C K the flag, it stands for nothing. The flag of the USA is nothing more than a tool to rally the sheep. The USA political system has been bought. The illusion of freedom is a real, two party system that are actually on the same team divide and conquer the people they rule. Wake up sheeple – politicians=puppets ~ banking dynasties and the wall street cartel = puppet master. Which politicians go against banks? JFK – he got shot, Ron Paul? the bank owned media practically blacks him out so he can never actually have the opportunity to go after them. There is something really wrong with our system. It will have to be destroyed and a new ushered in, stock up on the food, water, guns, and ammo; its going to be a really rough ride. A revolution may be the only way to bring our troops home from occupying other countries, problem is they will be patroling our streets and pointing the guns at us, because our military is controlled by the banks (rothschild warburg etc) google the banking dynasties, the CFR, George Soros, the conspiracies are real and has never been more evident than right now. History will look back on us, our form of government and our monetary policy as the the most elaborate form of slavery the world ever say “the slaves, don’t even know they’re slaves” and that’s real talk right there. What are you going to do about it when the violence starts? Comply with the powers that be? Or, will you be a true patriot and defend your country from its government? I’m prepared and have made my decision. GOD BLESS AMERICA AND MY COUNTRYMAN WHO WILL SUFFER IN THIS STRUGGLE. IT IS A PRICE I AND MANY OTHERS WILL PAY TO LEAVE A BETTER COUNTRY TO MY KIDS AND GRANDKIDS – Mount up and roll tide, its starting NOW!

DEUS VULT

you ARE an @sshole!!!

Sam J.

It’s easy to complain, bitch and moan – what are your solutions to fix things Michael? Do you really think this is “working?” You’re fairly naive if so – the majority of America sees these demonstrations as a bunch of whiny, lazy kids who have no real drive or ambition and want everything handed to them on a platter.

Very, very few people in this country see the protesters as victims – we see them as a waste to be honest with you. The victims are the people who want to use that park without stepping in feces or being badgered by protesters with not a clue in the world. Grow up please.

Michael H.

Actually, recent polls show that the majority of America is in agreement with the #OWS protesters that things need to change. Sorry, but you’re not in the majority according to the most recent polls.

ReachRenee

No, the majority of Americans are not in agreement with the Flea Baggers. They are disorganized and have no clear message other then Gimme Free Stuff. You must be getting your info from MSNBC.

Michael H.

It was a Wall Street Journal poll, actually. Don’t let the facts get in your way, though. Nobody is asking for “Free Stuff”. They are asking for their political power back. Fake people (Corporations) currently control this country, not flesh and blood human beings like you and me.

patmurphy1965

It that’s truly the case, you and your buddies should clean up and and come to a TEA rally. We know how to make thins move and are advancing some oF the things you mentioned. PLEAS NO DRUGS!

Michael H.

Pat, the Tea Party has been co-opted by the GOP and no longer stands for what it once did. It is part of the political establishment now and can no longer affect the changes that need to be made.

ReachRenee

You’re quoting one poll! I believe you said “polls”. Stop making up your own facts. If you want your political power back, stop making poor choices when you vote. If you voted for Obama, you got what you deserved. Stop blaming Corporate America & the rich because you are a failure. These so called Fake people (Corporations), employ Americans. You’re biting the hand that feeds you. You need to smarten up dude.

Bumbaclaat

The bank bailouts that the Occupy Wall st protesters ( and the Tea Party ) are upset with happened under Bush

Dan in Twin Cities

Then the way Americans reclaim their political power is by getting interested, getting educated, getting involved, getting in contact with your elected representatives and holding them accountable. (See my reply to your next comment.) When your representative holds a town hall and tells you the Federal government can do whatever it wants to do [ Fortney "Pete" Stark ] you tell him, “Not according to MY U.S. Constitution” and read him the 10th amendment; when you ask him what part of the Constitution authorizes them take a proposed action or legislation he answers, “Oh, I don’t know, several places” [John Conyers] or “Your kidding?” [Nancy Pelosi] then I think it is time to get a new representative.

Bumbaclaat

the protests aren’t saying “you owe me free stuff”

Twice as many Americans view Occupy Wall Street favorably than view Tea Party favorably – http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/plum-line/post/the-morning-plum/2011/10/13/gIQAULRHhL_blog.html

Dan F

what poll bro? what is it that is agreed upon doofus? In my travels across the country I’ve met nobody blue collar or not who sides with OWS.

The collective opinion is that this is ensuring indepenents vote GOP and lead to a GOP presidency over Obama. That’s the legacy that OWS will leave.

You, If you weren’t a dumb azz

You should quit believing the mainstream/lamestream media and what they report. They find the crazy ones and televise them as a representation of all of those who are in protest. FACT: the media is owned by the same people who own the politicians. In fact, the plan of attack was to own the media so it would be easier to eventually own the politicians. Two party system divides and conquers the people. A democracy will not survive unless there is free press and an unbiased media to report facts, and the money has been removed from the political process. Very naive to think that a country diverse as ours could only be represented by two parties. The fact of the matter is the majority of this country is fiscally conservative and socially liberal which no party represents. If you look at countries that are successfully growing their middle class, they have many many political parties and invest more on education. We spend our money on pointless wars and interest. We do not educate our kids or teach them skills that would create economic growth. This was all by design when the government took over education. All public services have an agenda; education was to infect the minds of the population one generation at a time so that the elite could corrupt and take over, all the others were to make the people dependent on the elite and solidify their power. WE ARE SLAVES, and we don’t realize it! Rise up brothers and sisters but you can only rise up once you have woken up. Sheep in peoples clothing, sad but true! Time for self realization! Conservatives and Liberals know the government and political process has been hijacked, the media will label the protests in an effort to prevent the protests from going mainstream. I forsee widespread mayhem on Nov 5th as a run on the banks begin and this will eventually lead to violence. Or maybe the sheep will fall back into line and we will go back to talking about angelina and brad pitt and revel in our ignorance and squander our opportunity to take our country back, what say the people?

bear knucklez

“fact of the matter is the majority of this country is fiscally conservative and socially liberal which no party represents”… I think that you are only about half right. We are a socially conservative country by majority or near majority who are against abortion, against gay marriage, etc.. Its a minority view from gov’t that allows those things to go on. And nearly half think this is a fiscally liberal country which is why the 47% of people who don’t pay taxes, want all of the extra social services that they are using, to be paid for by the 53% who are alredy paying. (unless I’ve misunderstood your statement.)

Michael J.

The Tea party has NOTHING to do with this jackass disrespecting the flag.
Dan in Twin Cities

“Take a look at a Tea Party rally and you’ll see the flag being used in ways it was not meant to be and would be considered disrespectful.”

[citiation needed]
Albert MacMeda

OH so that is why Obama and the Democrats get more $$$ from corporations, the rich and corporate/bank upper management than Republicans do!

Thanks for clearing that up and VOTE REPUBLICAN, THROW THE DEMOCRAT BUMS OUT, NOBAMA 2012!

patmurphy1965

I’m definitely not in the 1%; however. please don’t lump me in with the so call 99%. I’m with the Percent (%) whose core principals include:
Limited federal government, Individual freedoms, Personal responsibility and self-reliance, Free Markets and Returning political power to the states and the PEOPLE!

Michael J.

I agree.

BrooklynCyclone

Reasons the Fleabaggers don’t have corporate jobs with good pay and benefits:

13. Fleabaggers have the same reaction to the sunrise that vampires do.
12. Fleabaggers abhor merit based rewards.
11. Fleabaggers think workplace rules are facist.
10. Fleabaggers don’t accept responsibility for their own actions.
9. Fleabaggers don’t know who the Secretary of State is, but can easily tell you who lives in a pineapple under the sea.
8. Fleabaggers can’t articulate a sentence that doesn’t have the word “like” in it.
7. Recruiters deduct points for dingy teeth, bloodshot eyes, matted hair, and week old facial stubble.
6. Instead of briefcases, Fleabaggers appear at interviews with canvas shoulder bags covered in Grateful Dead and anarchist patches.
5. Fleabaggers can’t hide their neck, hand, and finger tattoos from interviewers.
4. Fleabaggers wasted their own time and somebody elses money on useless liberal arts degrees.
3. Flip-flops, sneakers, sandals, t-shirts, and wool hats are not proper business attire.
2. Fleabaggers can’t pass a drug screen.
1. Fleabaggers would rather roil in their own stinking filth in Zuccotti Park than look for work.

Michael H.

“Fleabaggers”…that’s clever! How much sleep did you lose trying to think that one up?

BrooklynCyclone

None at all, young lady.

Michael H.

Ooo, you’ve gone and insulted my masculinity. I’m hurt, really.

PublicHousingInMontana

THIS. Step up, get smacked down.
DoublDown

No your not, you knew you were a lady before this comment.

Sam J.

LOL
Don Shappelle

cuz she stole it from Ann Coulter.

Harold

Actually Fleabaggers began in reference to the idiot Democrats who ran away like little crying kids in Wisconsin when a grown man was put into office by the voters of the state. This post is very funny. Love the pineapple under the sea part.

Michael H.

Then it would be spelled “Flee-baggers” as in they would “flee” the state to avoid legislation being rammed through against the will of the public.

Deedee

Oh Michael, where to start with you? For now, the Wisconsin fleebaggers were wrong to leave the positions they were elected to serve. And the legislation was the will of the people. The fleebaggers knew that it would pass with a majority vote by again, elected representatives. They fled to postpone the vote to try and convince other representatives to change their votes. It didn’t work. So no, it wasn’t going to be “rammed through against the will of the people,” it was going to be passed by elected representaives, elected by their constituents. That’s how things work in a republic.

patmurphy1965

Where you been the past 28 days? It’s all over the Internet. Can’t find a blog that does not use the term to bring attention to the quality and character of persons gathering at these “protests.”
ReachRenee

Recent polls show that the majority of Americans believe the OWS protesters are Fleabaggers.
Albert MacMeda

He didn’t… it’s been going around for a while. What rock were you under that you hadn’t heard?

Vik

Love it! Best post all day. Michael H — go hump a Fleabagger Friend in the Park,while smoking a joint and your friend is defecating on the sidewalk. That seems to be all they know to do.
patmurphy1965

I think you scored on every point. Well done!
Wall St. Protester

I do computer support for a giant Wall St. corporation, and make roughly $20/hr with no benefits, I’m a consultant, and my all-time favorite experience is when the CEO of my company [who makes in the neighborhood of $5-25/million a year] calls me up and I have to tell him to reboot his computer if his mouse or keyboard is frozen. I also haven’t had a raise in 4 years.

patmurphy1965

And who’s fault is that?? Why do liberals always blame someone. why can’t they take responsibility?? If you’re not appreciated where you work, go somewhere else. This is how we do it in this country.
Richard Henkle

So yes, most CEOs don’t know squat about computers, I had one that couldn’t figure out why his printer didn’t work…until I put paper in it. However, and this is important, it’s not the CEOs job to know about computer. That’s your job and why he pays you to do it. sure, he can’t do your job, but you can’t do his, and his job is what makes the company money to pay your job. I know, that whole cause and effect thing can be tough to understand.
Early Kuyler

You might want to tell him to try Ctrl Alt Delete next time his computer freezes. Ending the process is much faster than rebooting but what do I know I’m just a dumb hillbilly.
Ichneumon

Silly him — he thought you’d be competent enough to know a method for him to unfreeze his keyboard without having to interrupt all of his apps and reboot the whole computer. Instead all you can do is give him advice a five-year-old knows and then insult him to make yourself feel superior.

If that’s your “favorite experience”, it’s no wonder you’re a “Wall St. Protester”; you’re a jerk.
Albert MacMeda

And obviously if what you say is true the only person you have to blame for your situation is yourself because either your skillset is so pathetic that’s the best you can do OR you’re unwilling to go somewhere that will pay you more/what you think you’re worth OR you’re a complete liar, like most people who post in support of this nonsense.

Seriously, anyone with IT skills who isn’t making at minimum $100K plus is some sort of idiot anyway. Unless the best you can do is “help desk” and the best advice you can give is “reboot”, which about sums you up, by your own admission.

Liberals Are Evil

When is this garbage…I mean, the prostestors, going to be done!

Vik

D.O.S. — do your stuff!!!!!!

Bernard Elias

What needs to cleaned up is our corporate run governments at all levels!

de la Torre

i cant agree with you more. i understand the mayors concern. however cleaning up the park should not be such a focus at this point. what about the wear and tear corporate America has put into each of our lives. something has to give and the time is now. if you want to clean something up clean up these large banks and companies who have been allowed to run wild with the American economy. why are we trying to divert attention from the real problem. sure there is an unclear message being portrayed by the protestors. but i thinks its because everything has gotten too far. so now we must stand up for everything all at once.

Albert MacMeda

Wear and tear, huh? You talking about the corporation that gave you a cell phone or the one that provides you with cell service? The corporation that ensures you have safe water to drink or safe food to eat? The corporation that provides your clothes? The corporation that provides your transportation? The corporation that provided the materials used to build your home?

Which exact corporation do you want to abolish, again? And what will you do to survive once you get your way? Fetch your own water? Burn your own feces? Grow your own food? Make your own clothes?

Or die whining pathetically like these OWS marxist tools are about to do once the temperature dives and snow beings to fall, unless they actually grow a pair, answer the calls to start getting violent then die when Obama calls out the national guard, declares an emergency and suspends elections.

You really don’t get how close to that we are now? All that’s preventing it is these idiots don’t have the balls to actually stand up for what they have been spoon fed to believe they believe in.

Summer Bun

I couldn’t agree more!

I would like to see a LOG of when the “privately owned” Zuccotti Park was cleaned last and if Mayor Bloomberg is SO concerned with how clean “parts” of the city has been, he can start in CENTRAL PARK with all the horse manure and smell, or the GROWING MASS PROBLEM OF RATS EVERYWHERE… He is an idiot, a thief, and so far out of touch.

Lastly, for anyone else condemning the Occupiers, I implore you to go down and see what’s going on for yourself and stop making up these ridiculous and non factual scenarios in your head. These people are trying to help YOU and I. How insane are you to support YOUR tax dollars going to bonus’ to Executive Level Staff, and in return they purchase private jets, vacation homes, and other luxurious items with YOUR TAX BAILOUT MONEY!

OCCUPY WALL STREET!!!

LongLiveCabriniGreen

I’ve been down there. The reports of intelligent life are way overrated.
Come on, bro. Kanye West was there yesterday. You don’t want that silly twit Ignoramus Africanus speaking for you if you want to be taken seriously.
Vik

GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO HOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOME!! You and dirty stinking drugged out hoars of friends.
Albert MacMeda

Have you been down there yet? If you had, you would know, like me, that you cannot really stay due to the stench. It’s unhealthy. I’m all for just putting up some fences and letting the “occupiers” rot. Toss food and stuff to them if you wish, but don’t let them spread their nonsense anywhere else – they’ve already fouled enough public (privately owned, but by agreement allowed to be used by the public) places.

Your post is full of lies. None of MY taxes went to support any execs until OBAMA gave it to them based on his agreement to help them after they donated to his and other Democrats elections.

But my taxes did go to SOLYNDRA and, from there, right into the pockets of Obama campaign bundlers and donors.

I did talk to the protesters. I asked them what they were there for. Some said “free food”. Some said “drugs”. Most said “I don’t know.” You see, they hadn’t been told yet what it was all about, they were just told to get there and so they did. WE call that a rent-a-crowd but really, since only SOME of the organizers are getting paid, the more honest name is either SHEEP or LEMMINGS.

The other answers I got I posted in another post, if you care. They were pretty funny. You should look for them.

LaughingAtYou

Like Obama in his cronies involvement in the Solyndra scam/fraud/theft?

Yeah good job dummy

jjdean

Dupe of the corporations. Must be interesting being white trash when all of this is going on. You are not expected to understand.
kat

To the protestors: many people making low salaries, including me, are sick of seeing that park with you in it. You have taken it away from us – not the fat cats – they don’t go there. There is a stench you don’t smell because you are there 24/7. I spoke to several of you and a few sound strange or I agree with certain points – but taking over a park will not resolve issues. You need to deal with politicians, travel to their offices, sue fat cats, etc. And all those celebrities showing up are RICH. They only want publicity.

Dude

Spoiled Brats! Get a freaking JOB. Dont like the policies in Congress….VOTE…. Dont like the president…VOTE….STOP asking everyone else to bail you out…. Generation ME is so sickening… Take some Personal Responsibility! Dont have a job…find one….dont like your situation…..change it…. I dont want to pay to do it for you…. All you are doing is Showing the World how immature and disconnected a small fraction of our population is….

Oh and by the way… You do not represent 99% of the population. Quit making crap up!

patmurphy1965

I think the correct term is Generation P (PARASITE). However, not a fleebaggers are Generation P. Some are just confused or never grew up.
Chris Cole

‘Spoiled brats’ ‘generation me’ ‘…… these kids self organized, self teach themselves political theory and constantly work towards developing a movement dedicated to trying to make a difference in the structure of this country, sacrificing time and effort.. guy, i just don’t see the lazy picture you paint. They’re not asking for a bailout, take the time to hear what they’re saying. When the private company that owns that park tries to pass on the bill to the city government, if any of that is passed on to the public, that will be an infinitely small percentage of money compared to the trillions of dollars of YOUR money that goes to failed businesses, lobby and special interest groups, funding plans that none of the public said they wanted.. .. then try to vote between 2 candidates in any given election, and you’ll see that neither of them want to end that. What would you do then? Maybe you might think differently about what they’re out saying, that this is our country and world, and the few should answer to the many, not the other way around.

Rob F

Kat, you can’t deal rationally with irrational people. Maybe some Fabreze would help?
man from old ways

amen good post get out of the park lowlives filty losers you people are doing nothing no one cares nothing will change

Chris Cole

well that’s pretty optimistic, ‘nothing will change’, isn’t it?

Island Flash

Sorry I am not sick of seeing them in the park!!!! and I too past there 2x a day to and from work. Taking over a park does work and you are right about the other ways to resolve their issues. However, you are only yesterdays news if you aren’t on the front page of a newspaper or early coverage on the TV. The park allows the protesters free advertising and that is the most important function in order to be noticed. There is an old adage about opening a business location location location. It holds true here also. Be proud of these fellow Americans
Pauli Gela

Reminds me of the People’s Park in Berkeley years ago, with the same hypnotized kids.
MHopkins

The Occupy Wall Street protesters are being maligned unfairly and should be allowed to stay in Zuccotti Park. I visited the park on Sunday, October 9 to support them (and, by the way, I am sixty-two-years old).The claims that the protesters are creating unsanitary conditions are bogus, calculated to silence their voices and stifle their criticism of the control exerted by the wealthy and powerful. During the time I was there, I observed protesters continually sweeping the walks. They had taped the edges of the walks to ensure that the walkways were kept clear for pedestrians and a protester was patrolling to make sure that this was observed. They had labeled receptacles for the different types of trash. I saw no garbage or debris on the ground. The protesters were a mellow group and were polite to visitors. Even the floral plantings were undisturbed, which I think is quite remarkable given the number of people in the park. I certainly neither smelled nor saw evidence of drug use– or witnessed any lewd behavior, as has been alleged by some. I compared notes with an acquaintance who visited the park the following day, on Monday, and her observations were the same as mine. The 99 per cent of us, who have no voice in the system, should be grateful for what the protesters are doing—not condemning them.

Chris Cole

Thank you for taking the time to actually see for yourself what is going on in the park.. too many are basing their opinions on what is reported in sensationalized and opinionated news with an agenda, when it’s merely people trying to get a voice that most of the country needs right now.

bubba

Right on! Perfect!
dog

It’s true. I can’t use the park anymore and I’m not rich. It’s like a blind robin hood that complains to the rich and takes from the poor.

http://www.leadfootedrabbit.com
paula

notice how Bloomberg has enable by having SOMEONE ELSE CLEAN UP THEIR FILTH – what a bunch of low-lifes.but, what would you expect of a bunch of communists.

Chris Cole

They are cleaning up the park after themselves, they could do it more effectively if they have dumpsters and porta a potties provided, which is pretty standard support given to any outside event as part of public works budget. Ultimately it’s the responsibility of the privately owned company who is the landlord of the park to determine what to do, not Bloomberg.

Mike Steiner

I feel very happy to hear your comments. I am conservative about how we pay for the Fed Gov, but I am very liberal about how we choose to live our lives. I really like the original plan that the USA has separate states and each St Gov has the right to express and legitimize the direction of their state. We actually have 50 little countries that share a Grand military, a common language and defined borders. then within these confines,
we can vote in and out the FEDS and our STATES and COUNTIES. When we have the GOV that we want and the economy that we support, we buy a house in that State, move there and call it home.
They call it, State Hood.
Paula Riese

You f’ing morons deserve Obama and his entitlement class – that’s right the very rich and the poor lazy bums who want a hand out, oh, and that includes the SEIU – the govt. workers who with some exception are the laziest bunch of freeloaders I know – the exceptions are those with a work ethic if the govt. system hasn’t squeezed that out of them and of course, ACORN, the charity that keeps on giving – you give to it and Obama’s administration looks the other way….,.guess what you have, America, the Bananna Republic with and Obama the ignorent leading the way = you voted for him not to be racist now, vote against him not to be stupid!
Alice Polarbear

To the protestors: and your favorite politicians, including Nancy Pelosi and Obama, are rich. VERY rich, as are your favorite left-wing celebrities. You poor useful idiots! Michelle Obama takes lavish foreignvacations with her kids and 50 of her best friends and lackeys …vacations you and I pay for… and you are whining about WALL street. The stock market does not just support the rich. It funds the retirements of many middle-class people as well.

Chris Cole

Try not to watch too much Fox News and assume that anyone out at the park supports any specific political party; that’s not what the protest is about.

Barack Obama Sucks It

WELL SAID! They are nothing but useful idiots.
Endecott

I love seeing and hearing what the park occupiers have to say. I am interested in what my fellow New Yorkers and Americans think and feel. .It’s nice and refreshing to see such passionate and committed Americans go out of their way to speak out in the face of hostility and threats. They are heroes putting themselves at risk and inconvenience for something they believe in that they think will make the country and all our lives better. Now one doesn’t have to agree with them but their courage and determination should be acknowledged and admired and supported.
BigCorporationsNeedNamesOfOWSforFutureHires!

Are you political puppets much?
It is over yet?
Hugo Chavez loves you!
Is It Over Yet?

Hello? This is the era of Financial Fittest! I highly recommend people learn to create and make something of themselves instead of learning to manipulate and take from others! Now go home or where ever you’re from and make yourself useful! If you never actually had to escape from a socialist or communist countries for freedom in America, please don’t ask for one and ruin my American Dreams!
Tdog

The total ignorance of the people is astounding. They all bash the banks……as if they have anything to bank with??? If they did have assets and don’t like Bank of America, just don’t bank there. Con-gressman Durbin calling for a “run” on Bank of America should be considered a criminal act. No one is forcing anyone to use a bank. Thousands have been laid off from work at BOA after being bailed out by the taxpayers. Perhaps the socialist, marxist, communist protestors shoud go to their “representatives” or the whitehouse?

The media is not biased, they are PAID OFF, OWNED by the dimocrats. If oned does a search for Eric Holder subpoena, you will see almost NO coverage of what is a huge scandal. The Attorey General lying under oath to Con_gress about Fast and Furious, PROOF the main stream media is complict in the fall of America. The real 99% need to start flexing their financial muscle by not supporting those that would bring our Great Country down. 2012 the political trash needs taken out.
so_done

hear hear.
Vote Loud

I’m gonna sue me somebodys!!!

LOLOL Clowns!
TheTrue Pooka

Yes, because everything you’ve listed as what w should do is working so fabulously now that corporations can spend 1,000 dollars to every one dollar we can put forward.

Nancy

Hey Flynn, get your facts straight, maybe go to the park and see what they are doing. This is a privately owned park and the owner should grow a pair of balls and make these morons leave. I guess people having sex in the park is ok and going to the bathroom in a bucket in a tent is ok, ohh and I guess posting police officers personal info on their equally moronic websites is ok too. Pull your head out of you behind flynn. There may be 20 to 30 people who know the purpose the rest are just causing trouble and need to go home, or go fill out job applications. annotation is hiring. And Michael H if you want to camp out go to a CAMPSITE moron!!!!

kat

Nancy, agree wth you 100% !!!!!
Michael H.

Ah yes, call me a moron for pointing out facts. Personal attacks sure do help your argument and make you seem quite intelligent. Tone down your attacks, take a deep breath and try to have a civil discussion. Calling people “moron” is only going to cause people to dismiss you and your statements.

By the way, I do enjoy camping and frequently utilize the NY State Park system’s available facilities with my wife and dog. The #OWS is not kids out camping. This is a major political and social movement that unfortunately requires a constant presence in lower Manhattan and other major cities to remain in the public eye. The fact that you are here talking about it means that they are accomplishing their goal to an extent. You’d be surprised, if you actually listened to some of the messages they are sending, at how much you’ll agree with what they have to say. Open your mind and stop attacking people you know nothing about.

Vik

Go Get your Stinking Lazy A$$ Friends and get the hell out of NYC! WE ARE SICK OF SEEING THEM!!!!! I guess you’re ignoring their blatant violation of how many public nuisancy laws?! Tell your friends to go f themselves and their friends in daddy’s basement and not in view where people quite frankly are turned off by them, their words, their public lewdness, public urination, defecation and drug taking. Get out and stay out!!!!

Michael H.

Such vulgarity. It’s not necessary. Stop frothing at the mouth, calm down and have a civil discussion. Stop attacking people and start talking to them.

Dude

This is not a “major political and social movement”. It is a bunch of spoiled Brats that think they have some kind of mandate to ask for everything in exchange for nothing. Its the hip and trendy thing to do at the moment. This happens every ten years or so when someone thinks they have re-invented Marxism. Who wouldn’t want something for nothing. Thats got pretty good marketing….. If the iPhone 5 had come out, those same dirty kids would have been standing in line at the Apple Store, shelling all their money out instead of smoking pot, having sex in a private park shouting down with Capitalism…..

RuRu

They say they should be supplied with a Porta Potty, when don’t they take up a collection and rent one for themselves, No…They want the taxpayer to give them porta potties!!

Jeffb

Hey, CBS, why not link to the letter from the owners of the park? They have some very valid concerns.

http://www.capitalnewyork.com/article/culture/2011/10/3722467/bloomberg-tells-occupy-wall-street-protesters-clear-zuccotti-park-fr

Covering His Butt

This is just Richard Clark’s way of covering his ass so he doesn’t get sued for anything. If anything happens, he can say he sent this letter to Commissioner Kelly asking for his assistance and pointed out all the issues and concerns. Mr Clark is walking a fine line and trying to be neutral. He doesn’t want to upset the protestors otherwise he will be their next target. Therefor he’s asked the police to help so it’s THEIR problem and the police will look bad forcing them out of the park. Clever indeed.

Jeffb

If you were the park owner wouldn’t you want to be able to gain access to the park? Not only is it their right, it is their responsibility.

I bet you dollar to donuts though, that they will try to get the agreement to 24 hour access changed after this protest is over … whenever that may be. Who could have foreseen this?

adolph

THE ONLY ONE THAT SHOULD BE CLEANED UP IS BLOOMBERG…..IN FACT I HAVE A NICE HOT SHOWER READY FOR HIM

Richard Henkle

Is this a threat? That’s really not going to help your cause.

BO STINKS!

Why bother cleaning the park, let the flea party lay around in their own filth until the winter freezes them or disease breaks out.
Douglas Pepper Lang

Democracy is not clean, it is messy by nature.

Intolerance and Ignorance are pervasive.

Civil discourse is polluted by extremists, fanatics and lunatics of the Michele Bachman,strain, intent on destroying the country to get Obama.

While his version of “Progressive” policies on Endless War, Privacy, Gitmo, Drones, Federal/State power, The UN-patriotic Act and much more run counter to classic Democratic Party dogma, and he seemingly needs a Teleprompter to cue him “Get Mad”, Barack Hussein Obama II still outstrips Willard :Flip Flop” Romney & Herman Cain (lied in debates about criticizing Ron Paul & Fed Audit).

OWS is an outgrowth of frustration with a system bought & sold by Wall Street, big Pharma & the Pentagon. Screw all three. Gut the house, strip the walls, rebuild on a solid foundation.

PEACE, SALEM, SHALOM, PAIX, PAIS

iwishiihadabrain

GO BACK TO SCHOOL WE ARE NOT A DEMOCRACY WE AR A REPUBLIC…. Accurately defined, a democracy is a form of government in which the people decide policy matters directly–through town hall meetings or by voting on ballot initiatives and referendums. A republic, on the other hand, is a system in which the people choose representatives who, in turn, make policy decisions on their behalf. The Framers of the Constitution were altogether fearful of pure democracy. Everything they read and studied taught them that pure democracies “have ever been spectacles of turbulence and contention; have ever been found incompatible with personal security or the rights of property; and have in general been as short in their lives as they have been violent in their deaths” (Federalist No. 10).

Jay

Actually, you are both wrong, a constitutional republic is a state in which the head of state and other officials are representatives of the people and must govern according to existing constitutional law that limits the government’s power over all of its citizens, whereas a representative democracy is ruled by the majority and does not have to answer to the individual rights of its citizens.
The United States is actually a “representative republic abiding to the constitu7tion that protects individual rights from the tyranny of the majority.

Don Shappelle

Oh there you go speaking about the reality of the situation… that’s no fun for most people, they prefer the us vs them pro-wrestling mentality.

Linda

To say that park needs to be ‘sanitized’ is an insult. Cleaned up is appropriate enough. I feel though that the occupants should clean their own mess. Hopefully, their message will gain more support.
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DanTe

Ooooh. What a surprise. The lazy trash trashed up the place.

Flynn

Oooh, Ignorant Troll Dante, Did you actually read the part where they have been cleaning up after themselves?

Hey, that’s a great idea…I’m gonna start calling you TrollTe

Sam

@Flynn: I pass Zuccotti park every day and its not clean. There are tarps and makeshift tents everywhere, mattress’ on the ground garbage, etc. They are using private property ig: BOA atm kiosks area as a shelter.

Michael H.

Tarps and makeshift tents are not “garbage”. That’s what happens when people camp out. They have volunteer clean up crews that go around collecting trash around the clock. Zuccotti is cleaner than many other city owned parks I have been to recently, when you exclude the camping equipment that is there.

Stop Tresspassing

It is garbage the park looks like a mess and I think they are lucky they are not getting kicked out.Bloomberg is getting alot of complaints to charge these lawbreakers with tresspassing by owner of park.Enough is enough go on city property and protest.If it was Bryant park or central park it would of never lasted more then a day

Michael H.

They are breaking no laws and are not trespassing. The park is mandated to be available to the public 24/7 as part of the city’s deal with Brookfield when 1 Liberty Plaza was built. Yes it is privately owned but the park is a facility that is open to the public at all times.

Again, camping equipment is not garbage. Tarps, tents, sleeping bags, medical equipment, food stores are all not garbage. The actual refuse that is generated by the #OWS protesters is frequently cleaned up by volunteer crews and collected for disposal by the DoS.

See you

It looks like the owners of the park had enough.They are evicting you.

Michael H.

We shall see how this plays out. This will be a huge victory for the protesters as public polling shows that a plurality of Americans agree with them. A huge corporation like Brookfield denying access to a space that is mandated to be open to the public will only reinforce the message that #OWS is trying to spread.
Binkster

Let’s hope so. I don’t live in New York and -I’M- sick of seeing these protesters – I can’t imagine how the good citizens of New York can stand this. What a sad, sad disgrace. These protesters stand for nothing but THEMSELVES, at least in the 60′s the protests were about the greater good of mankind – these idiots walk around complaining about corporations and yet they have their cell phones, computers and other products made and sold by the very evil corporations they are for some reason protesting. I don’t get it. They really and truly have no idea what it means to be oppressed… they should visit with young people in the middle east a bit and perhaps then they’d realize just how good they actually have it. Such selfish, whiny babies the lot of ‘em.

Marcelo

Yeah but there are rules against sleeping in the park, laying down in the park, using the park benches to lay on. So they are breaking the law.
BTW I read a few of your posts you really need to do some analytical thinking. But I guess they don’t teach that in school since liberals and the unions have taken over public education

Deedee

Sorry but the owners have stated before “”These rules includes bans on the erection of tents or other structures, as well as the placement of tarps, sleeping bags, or other coverings on the property. So the OWS are breaking the rules and the owners have every right to evict them.
The park was set up for “passive recreatiuon.” The legal definition of that does not include camping.

Michael H.

The rules you just cited are brand new in response to #OWS. They haven’t been breaking the rules up until now and you can bet your sweet behind that the rule changes will be fought in court.

Deedee

According to the owners the park has always been listed for “passive recreation.” Parks in this program have all been listed that way as part of the agreement with the city. Of course I’m sure you’re familiar with the program.

Maxine Rocks

The park is for public use, that’s true, but it’s NOT designated as a campground. There is a difference between a campground and a park inside city limits.
Right now, it should be designated a pig-sty, and don’t try to deny that, Michael H. I don’t know if you’ve been there, but if that’s your idea of clean, you need an intervention from the folks on “Hoarders”. It’s disgusting, I wouldn’t want to set foot in it at the moment, and the city is under absolutely no obligation to provide port-a-potties for these protestors. The businesses nearby are getting sick of their bathrooms being trashed by people who aren’t spending money in their establishments, and who can blame them?

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