Possible Showdown Looms Between City, Protesters Ahead Of Zuccotti Park Cleaning

'Occupy Wall Street' To Fight 'Eviction Notice,' But Apparently Has Backup Plan

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Friday morning could be the beginning of the end of the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstration.

On Thursday, Brookfield Office Management employees were passing out notices to protesters, who have been camped out for 26 days, saying that tarps, sleeping bags and tents are all prohibited in the park, as is lying on the ground and on benches when it becomes an interference for others.

CBS 2 learned late Thursday night the protestors are preparing in case they cannot base their operations out of Zuccotti Park anymore. They are now encouraging people to occupy Tompkins Square Park in the East Village.

“They might as well as just said ‘You’re done,'” one protester told CBS 2’s Ann Mercogliano earlier Thursday.

“This is an eviction notice,” said another.

In relentless solidarity, members of Occupy Wall Street marched to City Hall delivering thousands of petitions to stop Mayor Michael Bloomberg from plowing through Zuccotti with the NYPD and a clean-up crew Friday morning.

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In response to the new regulations, Occupy Wall Street called for supporters to come to Zuccotti Park at 6 a.m. on Friday to “defend the occupation from eviction.” In a statement on their website, the group also encouraged supporters to call 311 and demand that the mayor “support our right to assemble and to not interfere with #OWS.”

That statement also went on to say that if Mayor Bloomberg really cared about sanitation at the park, “he should support the installation of portopans and dumpsters.”

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This is the flyer being distributed to protesters on Oct. 13, 2011. (credit: CBS 2)

The notification followed Wednesday night’s announcement by the mayor’s office that protesters need to leave the park on Friday so it can get cleaned up.

“The last three weeks have created unsanitary conditions and considerable wear and tear on the park,” said the mayor’s office.

Protestors have been diligently cleaning up the park with soapy brooms, and piling up trash on the curb. Nevertheless, Bloomberg outlined a 12-hour plan to scrub down the park starting at 7 a.m.

The cleaning operation is set to take place in three stages, each lasting about four hours. Protesters will have to move from portions of the park that are being cleaned. Although the protesters can return to the cleaned areas of the park, they have to abide by the rules. And those strict rules distributed Thursday seem to suggest a showdown with the NYPD may be imminent.

Legal experts said the city will be breaking the law if they bring in the cops to clear the park without a court order.

“They would be breaching the law.  They would be violating those folks who they would seek to remove and possibly arrest, their fundamental rights to utilize the park and to express their opinions and exercise their First Amendment rights,” Yetta Kurland, with the National Lawyers Guild, told CBS 2’s Hazel Sanchez.

Thursday night, several city leaders also spoke out in support of the occupation.

“It’s up to the mayor and everybody at City Hall to change course. To sit down with the people of Occupy Wall Street and find a peaceful way forward,” said Public Advocate Bill DeBlasio.

“This is the beginning of a movement and you know what, you may not want to hear this, but this is how revolutions start,” said Councilman Charles Barron.

Bloomberg visited the park Wednesday night. He was greeted by a mix of cheers and jeers. His office says that after the park is sanitized, the protesters are welcome to return.

Some folks opposed to the Occupy Wall Street movement have taken to calling them the “Flea Party,” mocking their makeshift camp and ad-hoc cleanup crews.

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Some protesters say they’ve gone to great lengths to keep the park clean.

“I think the mayor and some of his ‘clonies’ are trying to use tactics to get us to move out of the park,” one demonstrator told 1010 WINS’ John Montone.

“There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty,” said demonstrator Gene Wagner. “If you would’ve given us a Port-A-Potty 30 days ago, we would’ve maintained it ourselves.”

“Every day, all day, we clean up the park,” Max Hodes told CBS 2’s Dave Carlin.

1010 WINS’ John Montone reports some protesters don’t trust the mayor

“This is a protest; it’s not a camping area. People aren’t camping here, they’re protesting and we have the right to have sleeping bags.  Where are they gonna sleep? How are they gonna protest?  Without sleeping bags, they can’t protest,” one demonstrator told 1010 WINS’ Stan Brooks.

1010 WINS’ Stan Brooks Hears From Protesters

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(credit: John Montone/1010 WINS)

Some protesters who found themselves caught in rain squalls Thursday morning took shelter in a Bank of America ATM kiosk to stay dry.

WINS’ John Montone asked a protester if there was anything ironic about that.

“We’re using them like they use us,” was the reply he got.

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They also got a boost from musician Tom Morello of Rage Against The Machine. Morello put on a performance at Zuccotti Park on Thursday.

While the mayor has said the park will be cleaned Friday, the protesters don’t seem to be making any plans on going anywhere. They’ve planned a “Family Sleep Over” in the park, set to start at 4 p.m. Friday.

What’s more, the weekend looks as though it may be a busy one for the demonstrators. According to their website, they’re planning a “Mass March on the Banks” followed by a plan to “Occupy Times Square” at 5 p.m. Saturday.

According to the site, the function in Times Square will be a party “in the festive sense of the word.” At 6:30 p.m. Saturday, there’s an event planned called “Occupy the Subway,” but no details on that have been made available.

All of those planned events meant little to some nearby businesses. Mike Keane, owner of nearby O’Hara’s Pub, told CBS 2’s Carlin demonstrators use his bathrooms and disrupt his business.

“I really hope this circus moves on. I’ve had my fill of these people,” Keane said.

He said the clean-up plan is not enough.

“Somebody’s going to wind up getting killed and maybe then someone will say let’s get them out of here. Hopefully it doesn’t take that,” Keane said.

Tell us your thoughts about the Occupy Wall Street movement in our comments section below.

  • steve

    Just more validation for leaving NYS in 2005. Won’t be spending any vacation dollars there anytime soon either!

  • tvljay

    I don’t think people should call 311 – instead they should call the county pest control office.

  • mike moon

    We all know how much libs love to tax everyone sooooo much.

    So lets come up with some news and heavy taxes for these parasites to choak to death on.

    Rent tax for using the park to sleep in. Pay toilets on the streets for these cheap skates to pay to use the bathroom.

  • Rhodey

    To the vermin infested,stinking ignorant imbeciles just read the following and try and learn

    The 3 men who pulled down Wall Street ….and where are they now…..?

    Interested in knowing who the culprits were that caused the economic melt down of Wall Street and where they are now, then read on in utter disgust.

    Be sure to read the “where they are now” at the end !!

    Here’s a quick look into the three former Fannie Mae executives who brought down Wall Street.

    Franklin Raines was a Chairman and Chief Executive Officer at Fannie Mae. Raines was forced to retire from his position with Fannie Mae when auditing discovered severe irregularities in Fannie Mae’s accounting activities. At the time of his departure The Wall Street Journal noted, ” Raines, who long defended the company’s accounting despite mounting evidence that it wasn’t proper, issued a statement late Tuesday conceding that “mistakes were made” and saying he would assume responsibility as he had earlier promised. News reports indicate the company was under growing pressure from regulators to shake up its management in the wake of findings that the company’s books ran afoul of generally accepted accounting principles for four years.” Fannie Mae had to reduce its surplus by $9 billion.

    Raines left with a “golden parachute valued at $240 Million in benefits. The Government filed suit against Raines when the depth of the accounting scandal became clear.http://housingdoom.com/2006/12/18/fannie-charges/ . The Government noted, “The 101 charges reveal how the individuals improperly manipulated earnings to maximize their bonuses, while knowingly neglecting accounting systems and internal controls, misapplying over twenty accounting principles and misleading the regulator and the public. The Notice explains how they submitted six years of misleading and inaccurate accounting statements and inaccurate capital reports that enabled them to grow Fannie Mae in an unsafe and unsound manner.” These charges were made in 2006. The Court ordered Raines to return $50 Million Dollars he received in bonuses based on the miss-stated Fannie Mae profits. Net windfall . . . $190 million!

    Tim Howard – Was the Chief Financial Officer of Fannie Mae. Howard “was a strong internal proponent of using accounting strategies that would ensure a “stable pattern of earnings” at Fannie. In everyday English – he was cooking the books. The Government Investigation determined that, “Chief Financial Officer, Tim Howard, failed to provide adequate oversight to key control and reporting functions within Fannie Mae,”

    On June 16, 2006, Rep. Richard Baker, R-La., asked the Justice Department to investigate his allegations that two former Fannie Mae executives lied to Congress in October 2004 when they denied manipulating the mortgage-finance giant’s income statement to achieve management pay bonuses. Investigations by federal regulators and the company’s board of directors since concluded that management did manipulate 1998 earnings to trigger bonuses. Raines and Howard resigned under pressure in late 2004. Howard’s Golden Parachute was estimated at $20 Million!

    Jim Johnson – A former executive at Lehman Brothers and who was later forced from his position as Fannie Mae CEO. A look at the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight’s May 2006 report on mismanagement and corruption inside Fannie Mae, and you’ll see some interesting things about Johnson. Investigators found that Fannie Mae had hidden a substantial amount of Johnson’s 1998 compensation from the public, reporting that it was between $6 million and $7 million when it fact it was $21 million.” Johnson is currently under investigation for taking illegal loans from Countrywide while serving as CEO of Fannie Mae.
    Johnson’s Golden Parachute was estimated at $28 Million.


    FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as his Chief Economic Advisor.

    TIM HOWARD? Howard is a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama under Franklin Raines.

    JIM JOHNSON? Johnson a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama’s Vice Presidential Search


    Would you trust the men who tore Wall Street down to build the New Wall Street back up ? I don’t think so ! ! !

    • mariee

      Thank you!!!!!!!!! We’ve learned something from you, now it’s our responsibility to verify what you have said and pass it on!!!! Text it to the protesters!

    • Big Red One

      Roady – you don’t HONESTLY believe these libtards will understand what you just posted, do you? These mouth breathing radical left wingnut anarchists are emotion driven (like all libtards are), not fact and logic driven. What they believe IS the truth, even if it ISN’T the truth. You cannot reason with then, you cannot debate, then, and you sure as hell won’t change their unused minds because – it is just that – unused minds are a primitive emotion-driven response to the environment similar to invertebrates.

      • Big Red One

        And don’t forget about DEMOCRAT liberal Barney Fwank (The Lisp) who said Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were not in any financial difficulty when the Bush administration wanted to increase regulations circa 2004 after seeing an impending train wreck! Of course The Lisp had a boy lover who was a senior officer at Freddie Mac, so there was NO special interest there, was there? The media NEVER investigated that because Democrats were involved. Nah, there’s no liberal Democrat bias in the main stream media, is there?

  • mariee

    A lot of those people are admitted Communists! Now, they certainly have a right to be who they want to be but..don’t force it down America’s throat. Obama and the Dems are the New Communist Party.. is that what you want people??????? Dear God.. this is sickening! If anybody needs to be eaten…

    • RJ MacReady

      can you even define communism??

      how about “the global war on terror??”

      how about that dirty ugly word socialism???

      what about “Gay!”

      you’re scared of corporate think tank METAWORDS and it’s quite pathetic

  • Regulas

    Filthy commie hippies

    • Big Red One

      The way those troglodytes are living, that’s literally!

  • Big Red One

    Well this was cute, kids. Now it’s time to pack up and go home and join the REAL world and get a job. Yes, there ARE jobs about this nation. My first recommendation would be to clean up, get that socialist/neo-communist dreamworld Utopian chip off your shoulder, and stop EXPECTING things to be GIVEN to you. If you have LOAN, you PAY IT BACK. And another thing: you people claim to be the 99%, well that’s great. Too bad only a minority of the so-called 99% don’t agree with what you overgrown bed wetters are doing! Finally, 50% of US households paid ZERO federal income tax last year after deductions like the EIC whereas the top 25% of income earners – those who earn more than about $70k, paid 88% of all IRS income taxes. That leaves the middle 25% of income earners – those making above $33k but below $70k to pay the remaining 12%. And you mouth breathers say the rich don’t pay their fair share and the middle class are getting squeezed on taxes! Ignorance is bliss amongst you liberal children, isn’t it?

    • Big Red One

      And if any of you ignorant liberals question my numbers, here’s your link up to 2008 numbers. The burden has shifted even HIGHER as of 2010 on those who pay taxes according to IRS data. Eat it up: http://ntu.org/tax-basics/who-pays-income-taxes.html

    • RJ MacReady

      you think $70k is rich??

      man, read a book and get back to us

  • mikedelta

    This is awesome! I’ll be glued to my TV tomorrow watching these fleabaggers getting clubbed, peppersprayed and cuffed! Unfortunately I have to be at work at 9am but I plan on getting up at 6am so i can watch the opening act. I almost wish that I was unemployed so that I could go down to WS and watch it live! (i’m only 1 hr away by metro north). Maybe I’ll head down saturday if the festivities are still going on!

  • mariee

    Get educated, the MSM like CBS, is not telling you everything. They certainly don’t tell you the truth. Question them with boldness! Listen to others, seek out opposing fews.. GBTV.com! Beck has a new network. The truth must be discovered, if you really want it, you will find it there. At least try it, if you can’t hang, then don’t…it’s a free country..for now.

    • RJ MacReady

      You should question Glenn Beck with boldness….he’s certainly not telling you the truth

  • phillysmart

    It should have been handled firmly from the beginning coddling these malcontent marxist only emboldens them ..for eaxample they should have been required to get a permit and the protest limited or confined to a certain area….a maximum number of people should have been mandated….again government not working for the common good but instead quivering to these trouble makers and thats all they are anarchist with a marxist agenda being used as proxies but much more nefarious characters

  • Robert M


    Since when did having a port ‘o potty and dumpster become a “basic human Right ?” I hope the forfkin’ icehole that said so isn”t a college student, because he is not learning anything.

    I love it.

    We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty, the pursuit of Happiness, porta-potties, and Dumpsters.


  • Patriot


    Converge on the Park, defend your Countryment.
    Join the Revolution.
    IOf you give in ALL is lost in America.

    New Yorkers you have enspired the Citizens of the World.

    We are all with you

    We are the 99%

    • Fred

      No you all are the 99% unwashed. 1% of you have bathed, the other 99% haven’t. That is more realistic.

  • mariee

    The President and the rest of the Democratic Party have their finger prints all over this. They want these protester to turn violent so they can declare marshal law. Don’t let them do it! No matter how bad it gets, remember..we must rely on ourselves! We don’t need Obama swooping in on Pelosi’s broom to save us. Be prepared with food and water, guns and ammo, keep cool. Obama will not be our King, this is America..not Venezuela!


    These people are freeloaders…their mantra should be:
    GIMME, GIMME, GIMME. If they had jobs, they would have been fired. I am guessing a lot of them are professional protesters…and who funds them, I have no idea.
    My tax dollars are going to pay for this cleanup. GO HOME!

  • wiseup

    now, now, where is the soap for your potty mouth.

  • etta harper

    call your demo. friends, unions, move on .org, van jones, soros, etc.

  • DigitalBob

    Porta-Pottys are serviced and owned by a capitalist pig taking unfair advantage of people’s need to defecate ! NO PORTA-POTTYS !!!!!!!!

  • chris a

    They even expect bathrooms provided by tax payers. We have had enough. Give us our city back You made your point now go back to Mom’s on Long Island! Bye Bye Flea Bags!!!!!!!!!

  • Lou Ann Watson

    “I think the mayor and some of his ‘clonies’ are trying to use tactics to get us to move out of the park,” ya think????!!!!

    They’re getting a boost from musician Tom Morello of Rage Against The Machine. Morello is putting on a performance at Zuccotti Park. isn’t this the idiot who posted a link on the fan page to the palestinian revolt activists???

  • SJ

    I’m sick of this story!! I wish they would spend this much time looking for a real job!! My guess is the vast majority of these people have no jobs and have nothing better to do!! Kick ’em outta that park and if they don’t go peacefully arrest them. I’m sure their permit to protest is up by now!!

    • RJ MacReady

      get ready to barf for the next decade because this movement, unlike the tea baggers, is going to continue

      by the way, you check the latest polls on which movement America favors??

      thats right,now go blow some chunks

  • Peru

    20 bucks says your mayor uses the city budget to clean the park, install portapotties and other essentials in order to make it nice and comfy for those cute little occupiers, at your expense.

    Should make them post a bond equal to lost revenues from the local businesses, cleanup and repair of damaged property before they ever set up again. Better yet, let the SEIU and DNC post it.

  • tomSERVO

    “Without sleeping bags we can’t protest..”


    You mean the very same sleeping bags made by the evil capitalist overlords?

    Seriously “99%” of these spoiled brats have no idea what oppression and hardship really are. Ask someone who spent time in a Soviet Gulag on whether or not his captors let him have a sleeping bag.

  • Scott Redlhammer

    I say break out the fire hoses and water cannons…..


    R-U-B-B-E-R B-U-L-L-E-T-S Give these 60s radical wannabes a taste of what it’s really like to screw with the 99%. Thats us, those that abhor this crap. Douse the place with pepper spray, tasers,lysol, lead whatever disinfects this tainted ground. Absolutley nameless and will remain so in the bowels of history. No honor no purpose no life.

    • Jessica Beland

      Again more hateful mean comments from a right winger hiding behind his computer. Cowardly. Loser. If you think what is going on in this country today is Capitalism, maybe you need to take a basic economics class and revisit when you are properly informed then maybe you will figure out who needs to be doused with pepper spray. To the OP Im sure the Soviet Gulag was horrendous so are you implying we should treat our citizens of this country who have a different belief than you do the same way? Wow.

      • Capitalist Pig

        Invite me over, I am certainly not hiding. That’s a big mistake on your opart that we are hiding. Believe me Nov. 2012 you will see ALL of us. Your dirt ball scum bag socialist crap is over and YOU WILL ALL PAY YOUR FAIR SHARE!!!

  • Jessica Beland

    Why is it every time you read some hateful/ignorant or mean comment comes up its at the hands of some right wing nut job? Seriously you make your party look so bad. MUCH worse than these people who are protesting peacefully. I live in NYC, I work full time and I own a small business. I think these people should continue to protest and I hope the movement grows. Something needs to change and the government is not listening. To those saying just ignorant crap from behind a computer (weak, btw) You guys are a disgrace to your own party. Don’t you see that?The REAL circus is the tea party movement standing outside calling members of our government the N word! Or maybe you all are happier being the marching mindless zombies that you are trained to be. At any rate, go OWS! I would be there tomorrow morning if I could!

    • Scott Redlhammer

      Too bad that you are afflicted with cranial/rectal inversion syndrome……


      Or some gay transgender racist welfare mongeriing, dreadlocked stinky do nothing with multiple abortions a stint in rehab and felonious friends. Yep that sums you POSs up perfectly. Trash.

      • Jessica Beland

        And I rest my case!

        • Big Red One

          Jessica: why is it you liberal anarchist neo-Marxists feel the need to disrupt and protesting everything and then call those who don’t AGREE with your America-destroying beliefs racists and haters? That road goes both ways. Oh, and another thing: that troll above is most likely one of your sick left wing ilk who likes to post as some Teatard.

          • Big Red One

            And another thing Jessica, how come we don’t have VIDEO of those people yelling at those black congressmen up the Capitol steps? The freaking MEDIA was there! You liberals are pathetic, petulant LIARS. And you know it.

    • Richard Henkle

      ‘Why is it every time you read some hateful/ignorant or mean comment comes up its at the hands of some right wing nut job?’

      ‘Or maybe you all are happier being the marching mindless zombies that you are trained to be’

      You were doing so well right up until the point where you committed hypocrisy. Too bad, next comment…

  • Stan Chaz

    While our .00001 percenter Mayor Bloomberg gets ready to go to sleep in his sumptuous silk sheets, in his million dollar mansion…he is trying to kill off the Occupy Wall Street protests by denying them the use of sleeping bags…while claiming that he is the number one defender of free speech. WHAT A HYPOCRITE!!!!


      Kill em all.

  • djw663

    Nice way to show your commited to America by having the American flag on the ground. If you read the laws regarding the flag it is not suppossed to be used in that fashion or on fashion.

    P.S. Get out of the way. Pelosi can’t save you, neither can Soros, neither can Gore.

    • Scott Redlhammer

      Not to mention defecating on same…..

      • Jessica Beland

        Why not? Our last president already did both. Wiped his @$$ with it and handed it back to all of us. GOOOOOOOOOOO Republicans!

  • Hub

    Open a Jobs Fair. That will scatter ’em!


      OMG!…thats too Funny!!!

      • Jessica Beland

        Yes I’m sure its because all of these people CHOSE to not have jobs. I mean, really. How ignorant do you sound seeing that the unemployment rate is at 8% in NYC and 9.10 percent nationwide? Wake up and get your head out of your behind. Go hop in your SUV and go eat some McDonalds out in your meth infested suburban town and leave the actual political stuff to us. Thanks.



    “Change is on the Horizon Part 3 of 3 The Farmer Claims Program”


  • patmurphy1965

    The list of supporters keeps growing for the 99% losers: Chavez, Ahmadinejad, Sean Penn, Castro, Pelosi, Ben & Jerry, Communist members from the former Soviet Union, Al Gore and Mike Moore! Aren’t we impressed.


    If the filthy fleabags refuse to leave or try and resist the clean up operation….TURN the firehoses on them says I ;….smelly buggers prob. need a bath anyways!
    Hope ALL take note the differences between TEA party rallies and flea-bag occupations…
    TEA PARTY: Flags waving, typical middle calss Americans, property looks BETTER after rally than before! Respectful of Police!

    flea-bag occupation: rampant drug use!, flag used as a blanket!…(I like to punch that guys teeth out!)…sh!tting on police car!…area TRASHED!!!…young idiots, DRUGGIES/BUMS and marxist/socialist USELESS idiots!

    NO MORE “resident” obama, moochelle “antionette” and the cabsl of marxist czars!!!

    • patmurphy1965

      I think you hit the nail on the head!

    • Jessica Beland

      Your gross. I don’t claim to support any party and how sad is it that my biggest drawback from voting republican is based on the hateful things I see only right wing uneducated nutbags like you post? Maybe you should all think about that. Also are you in NYC right now? Because I am. I am seeing this movement first hand. You however, are getting all of your info where?


        You getting a whiff of “freedom”? What a DS.

  • Fanny Forbes Franklen

    It’s the privately owned Federal Reserve that prints money out of nothing and then lends it back to us at interest kids.

    Nothing else counts until that is understood.

    911essentials is an introduction to the New World Order Central Banking Police State, its plans for one world government and their worship of the pseudoscience Eugenics.


  • Dale Auburn

    Is the CITY responsible for providing “port-a-potties” on PRIVATE PROPERTY?

  • Rich

    Dont leave the park. Stand up no matter what and let the rest of the nation know.

    • Terk

      They are probably standing up while doing number 2. Unless they can use a McDonald’s restroom which is an evil corporation.

  • David

    These are typical leftists, self absorbed, narcissistic, entitled, selfish, boorish a-holes. For some reason they think public property only belongs to them and to hell with everyone else.

    • Jessica Beland

      Wait a minute. The leftists? You mean the same ones who are fighting for universal healthcare, get slammed for wanting better immigration laws? Oh. Yeah we are really selfish. That was the dumbest comment I think Ive seen on this entire thread. Fail.

      • Terk

        Better immigration laws?…you mean like amnesty? What a moron.

  • Dave

    “There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty.”

    Ahhh yes, life, liberty and the pursuit of pottyness.

  • Saltine

    What’s gonna happen when they “occupy the subway system”????

    They will pack in to bursting on many trains. The cops will come. The protesters will start having panic attacks and asthma attacks. The cops will demand they leave. They will not leave. The cops will pry them loose. They will claim police brutality.

    There will be consequences. It will not be pretty.

    Let the cartoons begin….

  • Richie

    Come on people. Are most of you just dumb or stupid or just brainwashed. We need to protest in order for change to the better. These people, the protesters are the smart ones who have nerve to stand up to the cause. There trying to get everyone else to see the vision of what wall street has done and what they will continue to do,
    We need a change in America and I say thanks protesters, you make a difference and you are all great americans. Stand up America before it is too late, back these protesters now or you’ll be paying the price.

    • BeenThereDoneThat

      What are they “standing up for”??? None of them have a coherent answer.

      What are they standing for??? The newly minted “human right” of a Porta-Potty???

      Give me a break! Whiney little fools should go sit on Pelosi’s lawn. Oh, that’s right, SHE supports them!!! Hmmmm….

    • Dale Auburn

      Protest for what? Where is the Official List of Demands? Nobody can acknowledge or meet those demands if the group refuses to disclose them.

    • patmurphy1965

      Standing! Looks like most are laying. Any how, you honestly believe what these malcontent are doing is making you’re life better. I feel sorry for the bad judgement you exhibit.

  • Bill P

    what an absolute joke this entire public tantrum has been; yes, lets get together, smoke some dope, swap some bodily fluids and pass around some bed bugs while we all waste our precious time here on earth accomplishing absolutely nothing…
    reminds me of the Owebama administration…

  • Tired of Spoiled dirty Kids in NY

    Michael H.

    You have no clue what you are talking about. But, how do you tell a delusional person their delusional… The OWS kids are on private property, do not have a clear message, only have their self interest in mind and want everything for nothing. They say OWS is not about party affiliation, but you keep snipping and accusing the Tea Party and GOP of being connected. If your at the park, how is that air card working for you? Good thing that was not made by those “Evil Corporations”… At some point this Peter Pan movement has to leave Neverland and Grow up. Gona let you in on a BIG Secret…. You want to change the government….try the below.

    1) Call your Congressman or Congresswoman
    2) Vote

    If you represent 99% of the population it shouldn’t be a problem to get your way. If you don’t like who is running… Run for office. We have had more than two parties in the past and they did create change… Ask Ross Perot…

  • BeenThereDoneThat

    To quote the great George Carlin:

    Don’t want no Wall St! Don’t want no Wall St.! Don’t want no Wall St! Yeah! Don’t want no jobs(or volunteering opportunities), neither!!

  • Craigster

    This is a classic example of typical of liberals to demand their rights to protest,
    loiter/occupy while threatening to deny the owner’s rights because he needs to maintain his property. It is private property, respect it and the owner’s rights to use his property as he sees fit. Rights are universal to include the owner and those with whom they disagree.

  • cntrlfrk


    They don’t like regulations???

  • ann

    I wouldn’t be so fast to call them names and make assumptions. They are making an excellent statement and are concerned for the well being of themselves, their families and futures. Why should the OVER THE LIMIT SQUEEZED OUT middle class be paying a higher rate than the rich who by the way got some of their bonus money from us! Just shut up andf mind your business. I think it is about time people started to speak out. If it weren’t for the baby boomers who did it when they were younger where would YOU be now???? AND the park regulations are a major joke. Personal property? Please, coolers are such a thing so I guess they don’t want anyone at anytime in the park and using it for recretational purposes. The people are trying to improve a terrible situation and those who are negative ought to be ashamed of yourselves. Get a life and leave them alone. As long as it remains peaceful what is it to you. The rich who don’t forget received many of their bonus with the middle class bail outs should pay more. AND I say change the way they are paid and tell me this….. who is going to bail out the middle class because we have no more money left to0p squeeze? I don’t see anyone willing to help the people who need it most. Another thing, stop handing out unemployment without verifying they are really looking for a job. It’s free money for some and those who are really looking are the ones who should get it not those who are in it to milk the system for all they can. Check up on them. Spot check anyone can hide behind a telephone and answer the questions the way they need to in order to get their next check. So much money is being wasted instead of investing in the resources needed to help get the country back on track. Enough said.

  • BeenThereDoneThat

    Bunch of whiney arsed children.

    Porta-Potties are now a HUMAN RIGHT????

    Uhhh—One question: Where have they BEEN peeing/pooping and showering????

  • Leonid_Scorpio

    These protesting pigs (or shall we say PIGS?)are bunch of lunatics manipulated by DemosRATs and alike… These fools can hardly think for themselves just like most DemocRATic voters…How sad…

    • RJ MacReady

      Wrong. Dems and Repubs are bought and paid for by the same criminal element

      how convenient OWS are actually protesting at the root of the problem???

      Wall Street, the corporate masters of ALL POLITICIANS

      Keep drinking your Koch brother kool aid and this country will continue to rot in hell

  • Get a Life

    Where do these people come from? I surely dont see any of them in my office. Instead of complaining use that effort to go find a job and contribute to sociey. After I graduated from school 2 years ago, I looked for 6 months to find a job that I would be happy with. Everyday I was on the phone, sending emails, and building relationships. Do these people understand that it takes hard work to make it? We are guaranteed equal opportunity in this country……… Not equal results.

    • BeenThereDoneThat

      Sadly,the answer is, “No! No, they are not!!!”

      I’d also love to know where are they showering? Where are they bathrooming? Where are they throwing all the food/drink/living garbage?

      Do they launder their clothes?

      Apparently, they have trust funds to keep them going $$$$.

      If they can’t find work, why not volunteer? Soup kitchens, literacy programs, Humane society, elderly companions, readers for the blind…The list goes on of places which would love to have young minds expend their energies in a positive, directed way!!!

      They are NOT! working!

      • Maxine Rocks

        With the exception of the homeless, who are eatin’ good in the neighborhood and enjoying the free cigarettes, I’d like to see one who doesn’t have a cell phone (and I’m not talking a cheap Walmart special tracfone, either), a laptop or tablet or an Ipod.
        They’ve been on the news and in the papers – “I had a job but I quit to come protest!” What?! Excuse me?!? “I was talking to a friend on the streets and he told me it’s a great place to get free grub and cigarettes.” Ask ten what this is about and get ten different answers – but not one can come up with a solution to what they’re protesting for!
        And who’s paying the 2 million + in OT to NYPD? The taxpayers of NY, not the protestors sitting in the park. Keep it up, folks – those police will be retiring with pensions up the wazoo next year and laughing all the way to the bank!

  • tom

    Just after one day when these people protest there, it smell terrible aready, dirty like real garbages but I don’t understand the liberal media, holiwood, professors, domcrat politicians could smell such these smell horrible, dirty place, vague langueges, illogical people, unable thinkers, and many diseases people pver there

    • meesha4

      LOL! What are you surprised at? These morons fall into one of the following categories:
      1. Unemployed.
      3. Tenured “professors” promoting Socialism.
      4. Spoiled rotten brats that live off of their wealthy parents.
      5. Welfare recipients PAID FOR by PRIVATE-SECTOR TAXPAYERS.\
      6. Uneducated morons that (through NOT their own fault) had their MUSH BRAINS convinced that they should get SOMETHING FOR NOTHING.
      7. Leftover Woodstock drug addicts that haven’t done ANYTHING in their lives to “contribute” except on the BACKS of the PRIVATE-SECTOR taxpayer.
      The “smell” is spreading across the United States. The “smell” is the spread of those that demand something for nothing. Guarandamteeya that SCHOOOOMER, FINESTINE, BOXER, FRANK, and all the “holier than thou” dem/libs are in their warm, cozy PRIVATE-sector funded homes while those that support them are drenched in feces, urine, etc.

      • William Ripskull

        Couldn’t agree more. Time to break out the tear gas and fire hoses.

        • MarkVader

          As long as they’re using bleach and lysol in those fire hoses

          • dannyvice

            some protesters are intent on staying in the park, huh? They’ll be feeling a NYPD night stick very soon.

            • D

              This is my third attempt at replying to you, Mr. D-vise. In re-butle of your insinuation of using force with a night stick; Opposites attract…. pleasure is Pain; Pain is Pleasure… ask christ…On another note, those of you that are posting while off duty police (blue nights,) your cowards hiding behind the wall of the internet, you could never even, hold a candle to me. I was born a “Knight of The United States of America.” It’s my last name not yours…suck on that night stick…

              • D

                Oh and don’t worry, I don’t expect cowards to reply……

                • vera

                  I am worried for you – see a psych soon, please.

                • poorhardworker

                  I am not a coward so I will reply. If you could communicate clearly it would be a lot easier to reply to you (re-butle??? This is not a word in the English language!) I am hoping you will understand my words: you are protesting at the wrong place and against the wrong people. Go to Washington DC. It is our governments regulations that have made it impossible for businesses to grow here and made loopholes for banks and people you think are not paying enough tax. So, “Knight of The United States of America” go take a class in Finance 101 and see how the politicians have made it impossible for businesses to do business here in the USA. And trust me, I owned a business and risked capital to pursue a dream and hired people but I would NEVER do it again under the current administration and tax laws! I have NEVER taken a handout or expected anyone else to take care of me and my daughter. I worked 4-5 menial jobs at a time to put food on the table and I learned how to make money. I put my daughter through college without taking a loan. I did not sue her father for not paying child support and I did not ask for alimony. I pulled myself up by my own bootstraps. Do not lecture me about wealth re-distribution because I earned my money the hard way. Do NOT tell me that I owe anyone any of my money! You need to grow up and realize you have the right to PURSUE success but you are not ENTITLED to it. Go to work…get over self righteous “I am entitled self”…and become a survivor…that’s what I did! God help you if you think more government is the solution. I will take care of my family first and if there is anything left over I will take care of my neighbor and then I will take care of my community and then I will take care of the state, I can only do so much! And I will do it freely. But when I am legislated to do it I WILL REBEL. Get the government out of my life and I will reinvest in the United States of America! Who needs 160,000 pages of tax code? Who need Congressmen that line their pockets with my money. Who needs a President and Congress that doesn’t understand that you cannot spend more than you make….what is so hard to understand about that??? What don’t you get??? Your ideals that I am supposed to let my money support people who think they are entitle to the style of life I live now (at 61 years old) when they are 25 years old is LUDICROUS. Cry me a river!

                • spike

                  why would cowards reply, when they’re crouching shoulder-to-shoulder with you, eating the Cheetos that Daddy worked to provide?
                  COWARDS are the rabble that gather to demand that someone else provide their sustenance and wipe their ungrateful and lazy arses because they’re too busy ‘envisioning empowerment’ and studying ‘major left-handed transgender poets in 19th century Cleveland’ to do anything constructive

              • careghettu

                D, mean d e m e n t e d ??

              • Mom

                You are mixed up and in dire need of therapy. Please come home, get help and then join the taxpaying human race.

            • D

              Too poorhardworker; “Can’t we all just get along”? O.K. touche’ I posted before doing spell check. Point is, as you said; that we all try to have a little business. We all try to stand up to the Goliaths of the corporate world, when the financial pain is unbearable, the people are in a ‘matter-of-factly’ way, saying; ” you can’t heep the stench of your corruption on us, we’re already broke.” I am not a protester, just one of 300 million people that knows this system is defacto. Isn’t this what friends and brothers/sisters do for one another, when the other can’t? Time will tell, whether they began the greatest movement of this country……. The debt will implode under it’s own weight, then what? By the way; my crib was lined with the Financial Times…. It’s the future that scares me and most other american’s into protests like this…..Peace out….

              • Eric Wilson

                this system is “defacto” what? also, grammar check might be helpful before posting. unfortunately it seems the closest thing you’ve come to literate writing is when you literally were unable to control your bowel movements.

              • Albert MacMeda

                The “OCCUPY” protesters are breaking the law, several laws in fact. I don’t know why the government tolerated it but it’s long past time to stop. They’ve turned the park into a festering sewer full of all sorts of twisted evil. The “legal experts” who claim they have a right to stay as they’ve been have not a leg to stand on. You, by your posts, suggest you had trouble getting past the 5th grade, which is about par for the course for people who take the side you’ve taken. What, exactly, do you mean when you say “the system is defacto”? Why did you start your comment with “too”? You are a typical tool of the American left and a typical product of their “If it doesn’t work, throw money at it. If it still doesn’t work, throw more, lather, rinse, repeat” failed ideology. You got one thing right. If we don’t stop the left, Obama and the Democrats the debt will indeed implode under it’s own weight. Then what? They, after ruining this country by imposing socialism on it, will blame capitalism and ruin it more with more socialism.

                That’s what.

              • V

                They’ve begun the greatest mass bowel movement in history thats for sure…

              • below me

                To “D”…Is it too difficult to use the proper “to/too” in a sentence? I find that too many people misuse “to/too” but usually write the much shorter “to”, to cut down on time. i did enjoy your “touche'”, which sounds a lot like “to/too”. You savvy? Me-too!

              • Itchy

                Didn’t little old Rodney King say that before the LA Riots that killed over 60 people. Libs like you are of no use to a Capitalist Republic. If you want to try this style of government and living go to Cuba and hang out with Fidel. Leave us hard-working, law-abiding, normal Americans the hell alone. YOU ARE OF NO USE TO ANYONE.

            • HARD WORK builds CHARACTER

              @poorhardworker: My sentiments exactly. I was adopted at 3 y.o. by older parents, my mother was 40 and my father was 60. They worked every day of their lives, scrimped and saved to put me through private schools and colleges, despite having heart problems and chronic illnesses, God rest their souls. But they achieved the American Dream for me. And growing up, I worked many jobs for spending money, to buy clothes, etc. What I learned, and what I want to instill in my kid, is this: HARD WORK builds CHARACTER and, AMERICA is still the GREATEST COUNTRY on EARTH.

        • marine

          you’re a disgrace to the americans that died for the right to assemble

          • Albert MacMeda

            It’s not the assembly that’s the issue. It’s that they’re not doing it where it will do some good – at the homes of Obama and the Democrats who are destroying the Constitution and all it stands for after so many brave marines and others have died for it.

          • Jon

            Uhhh, they did not die for the right to assemble. They died for life liberty anD the pursuit of happiness. Get a life you hippie freak.

          • Terraformers 3

            I just want to die on Mars. Earth is for the Birds. There, I’ll really be FREE. NO rent, no maintenance fees, no mortgages, no water bills, no taxes, no liens, no bounty hunters, no guns, no cops, no rules, no prisons, no rats, no roaches, no diseases, no pollution. Let me outta here! You can’t pay me enough to live in this rat race.


        meesha4, YOU SAID IT! What is so very sad is those drenched in feces, urine, etc.. do they ever stop & look up @ the Master’s Castle & think we are living like this for the “cause” but look @ how they lavish themselves. How come “They” are not down here with us?

        • meesha4

          “Us”? LOL! You and I are IDIOTS, according to the potty-wannabes. WE WORK, WE PAY TAXES, WE PAY FOR THE PUBLIC-SECTOR and their benefits and pensions that are MUCH more than we have. But, Ruk, as hard as we work and as screwed as we get, you have to admit that it is going to be SATISFYING to see all the gubment-titsuckers wondering around in the street when their TAXPAYER-FUNDED plastic cards are no good.

        • Albert MacMeda

          The cause? What, exactly, is “the cause”? To post here using your corporate product iphone or ipad or imac or whatever corporate product you use, about how evil the corporations are? Hey, how many corporations were involved in producing, transporting and selling the clothes you wear, the food you eat, in fact EVERYTHING THAT MAKES YOUR LIFE LIVABLE and WHAT ARE YOU GOING TO DO BESIDES WHINE WHEN YOU BRING THOSE CORPORATIONS DOWN AND ARE LEFT WITH NOTHING BUT YOUR PATHETIC WHINING?

          • zippit

            Agreed. It’s time for these asshipes to grow the F up and deal with reality. The reality is that they are just not very good at what they do. They probably didn’t participate in competitive activities, be it intellectual or athletic (btw hacky-sac does not count for either). They lean toward mediocrity and are angry that they don’t have innate skills that “successful” people have. Some are lost, thinking there is a better way than capitalism. What they don’t understand is that most “successful” people are just like them…the difference being successful people work their butts off and view life as a challenge (i.e., competitive spirit)…these morons view life as a stagnant entitlement. At some point in their miserable lives they realize they have “nothing.” They don’t have savings, a pension, or a 401. Hence, no skin in the game. So what do they want? They want to change society to address their sorry asses. I feel sorry for them. Yes…there is a difference between “them” and me. I am a better person, and yes, I won’t wait in line behind someone that is an underachiever. I will step over them.

        • Albert MacMeda

          Oh, wait… it sounded for a sec like you were on the side of the idiot protesters. If I am wrong about that, ignore my other reply. IN any case, it is to them, not to those who know what idiot tools they are. On second read you seem to know.

      • Dennis D

        Meesha hit it on the head.

      • DAMTEXAN

        I believe i understand what your saying…you cant fix stupid.

      • tonyC

        Brilliant! The list is comprehensive and accurate. I pity any moron who believes that these zoned-out hippie stoners wil capture America’s heart. I hope the Democrats continue to embrace these “lotus eaters,” as they prepare for exile next year.

      • 1654american

        A young Tunisian man doused himself with fuel and lit himself on fire in front of the corrupt government office that confiscated his vegetable cart that he used to make money for his family. I guess that made him a capitalist businessman. The government screwed him because he didn’t pay the proper bribe for a permit. THAT is a protest against an oppressive government. These “occupiers” protest for their ‘HumanRights’ to be given a job, free college, lower rent for apartments at Columbia University, and more taxes for the rich, like the Obama’s, Pelosis, John Kerry, Mikey Moore, and Hollywood types. The hypocrisy and utter moral depravity of these occupiers is beyond shameful.

        • meeester

          mass-self-immolation . . . .hmmm.
          good one
          that would show some committment

          • Albert MacMeda

            I’ll chip in for the combustible liquid and a pack of bic lighters. See if you can get any of these idiots to sign up to be the first to go.

      • Jeno Weisz

        Meesha,I couldn’t have said it better. These “useful IDIOTS’ are encouraged by the likes of Pelosi,Obama and others. Herman Cain is right by saying that all these protests are a DIVERSION from our real problems. No Jobs,youngsters moving back in parents basements, economy in the tank.One more Year and this White House will bring us to the level of Greece,G-d forbid.

      • Americanius

        3 more and you have a Letterman Top 10 list.
        How about a few demands of the OWS protestors?
        1) Don’t demand redistribution of my assets when you can move to China, Russia, Cuba or Venezuela and demand all the free assets you desire.
        2) Grow up and for once in your life be responsible for the most important thing in your life, you!
        3) The next time Kanye walks among you like Jesus ask for his coat and see if he gives you the $300 shirt off his back and his gold trinkets too. WWJD Jim Wallis? Tell Kanye next time he comes back to bring $1 million in cash.
        4) Cash out you 401(k) and redistribute it to your fellow protestors. Oh, wait you have to get off your lazy coddled asses first.
        5) Eat Michael Moore. Should get you through the winter.
        6) Get your numbers right. Your’re less than half of the 99%. IOW the 47% that don’t pay taxes and ride in the wagon us 53% pay for.
        7) If you’re going to act poor in a protest leave your designer clothes and $200 Nikes at home.
        8) Send pics to mom and dad so they can see how you are using the college fund they saved at BofA or cashed out their IBM stock from Wall Street.
        9) If you’re going be dumb you better be tough.
        10) STFU!

        • Vic



        • Tdog

          Well said….exacty to the point. May I add, “Quit using the paid off media to advance socialist agenda”

        • Is It Over Yet?

          Ok, All job application forms should have polygraph test in addition to drug test! And one single question all corporations should ask before hire! “Have you ever participated in OWS in Fall 2011?” LOL

      • Is It Over Yet?

        Seriously, Don’t they know they are being brain washed to be political pupplets for the current Admin.?

        • Albert MacMeda

          No. They don’t. That’s the most hilarious thing of all. They’re doing this, utterly debasing themselves, you know they won’t last out the winter (though I hope they try – then we’ll see how much “global warming” is really going on, eh?) so actually this “clean up” ruse is really their chance to retreat and save face.

          I hope they stay. I’m looking forward to walking by there, with my face mask on to help against the stench, in the dead of winter to see how many have frozen to the ground & to the benches and await the spring thaw for removal.

    • Gordan

      Presenting Exhibit A as to why we need to take back our college campuses from the insane left wing Marxists who use their tenured positions to indoctrinate impressionable college kids.

      Support the Youth for Western Civilization today, and let’s take back our college campuses – so we can build a better future than this!


      • Jeno Weisz

        Gordan,You are 100% right.In the last 50years post woodstock generation saturated our colleges,universities and dishing out marxist-leninist horse manure in our Youth’s heads.This includes our marxist berry soetoro-professor as well. Hopefilly,next Novermer our citizenzwill wake up from anaesthesia and vote in a TRUE Capitalist American into White House.

    • meesha4

      NORMAL PRIVATE-SECTOR WORKING people do NOT understand the liberal media, hollywood, professors, dem/lib politicians, etc. WHY? Because we have a WORKING ethic and DO NOT TAKE SOMETHING FOR NOTHING. These idiots don’t care about brushing their teeth, payinf for their own toilet paper, paying for their own food, paying for their own health care, etc. They THINK it will always be available to them. Well’s running dry morons.


        And don’t you think, meesha4, that they are being exposed. Seeing is believing. The public are seeing all this and it is making them sick to see. Thus, the reason for the clean up ? Then they will go back to their sad lives filled with nothing. It is sad, & I’m being serious. We fill our lives with Love, hope, family, friends, those in need, goals & jobs. Our lives are being filled & as we give out there is more room for our hearts to be filled again. Giving a feeling of joy & contentment.
        Most of these kinds of people on the other hand, have no hope & give nothing out in return. They only want,want, want. Thus never feeling statisfied, sad.

        • meesha4

          I HOPE they are being exposed, but I am old enough to know that DEM/LIBS have convinced the PRIVATE-SECTOR tit-suckers (notice how I did NOT say a GOVERNMENT handout) that the DEMOCRATS supported the emancipation of the slaves or the Civil Rights Act. These MORONS do not have a CLUE. It was a REPUBLICAN POTUS that freed the slaves and it was a REPUBLICAN COngress that passed the Civit Rights Act. DEMOCRATS fought against both. However, in our PRIVATE-SECTOR FUNDED SCHOOLS, we are more concerned with a dental dam, child care for TEENAGE mothers, rubbers on bananas, etc.

    • not impressed

      If it’s private property they don’t really have a say whether they have a right to be there. It’s not like most of them are protesting anything anyway, except that they have to pay their own debt heaven forbid they have to take care of themselves, or clean up after themselves.

      • Albert MacMeda

        1) It is private property. The owners have the right to have anyone removed, at any time, for any reason, who refuses to leave upon their request.

        2) This right precludes anyone’s Constitutional right to assembly or expression because they only apply on public property.

        3) The city of New York, by allowing these protesters to stay and in fact by signalling their consent that they do so indefinitely, has a huge legal liability. The first time someone is seriously injured or killed you can bet there will be a HUGE lawsuit likely with a million dollar class settlement.

        4) The owners of the property now also have a cause of action against the City for allowing this to go on and giving it outright approval instead of DOING THE JOB TAXPAYERS ARE PAYING THEM TO DO – ENFORCING THE LAWS, many of which these idiots are breaking.

    • Bob Carson

      The reason it smelled like garbage is very clear. I suspect many of them are so doped up they can’t smell themselves. Like most libs, it’s all about them. The inconvenience to others doesn’t cross their minds. I may be wriong about that. Inconveniencing others could be their main motivation. It’s time for them to go.

    • meesha4

      Liberal media, hollywood, profesors, dem/lb politicians, will NEVER put their moronic BUTTS in the disease-infested parks. They are ABOVE it. LOL! I am sooooooooooo glad I left New York and San Francisco and I do NOT pay taxes to clean up their CRAP.

    • Sheople

      Thats ok Tom….we the people don’t understand your language and misspellings either…..until you can communicate like a human being, you might just wanna STFU.,

      • 777Dragone

        Pardon The Interruption; Just a couple of tidbits for you all; One; from a native american point of view, realize this; the stolen ‘riches’ from the america’s was squandered by those that stole it ‘gold.’ Now they want each and every citizen of our country and the world to pay for thier debt, their miscalculations and stupidity. Their’ lies that they squandered the riches they pillaged, plundered and raped for. Secondly; Here’s a good one for those that have been or may be arrested in the neer future. The ‘Bill of Rights;’ states that all citizens have the choice and freedom to choose thier own religion, without tyranny from the government. Since the president is sworn in, on the Holy Bible and not EVERY religious holy book, then he has committed treason against the free people to worship in accordance to their own beliefs. This makes him a two-faced lire, too the public. In count, under jury law, you must swear on the bible to profess your trustworthiness and your truthful cooperation. Christianity is fine for some, others not so much. So we have a government that has become indebted to actual thieves, and a government that believes that heresy and double standards, steeling the future, of the freedom, democracy so spiritually instituted. We live in a failed system, not a failed democratic constitution. Ask for your freedom of religion, and ask for your liberty in due process. Peace Out.

        • Brendan

          You make some good points. Well other than the fact the Bible isn’t required at either of those and we are intentionally designed as a Constitutional REPUBLIC and not a DEMOCRACY. Then add in that any other persons choice of religious beliefs (I.e. The presidents) in no way infringes on your ability to freely choose what you want to believe, and I would say you just made one heck of a great legal argument. And this is from an atheist.

        • hello

          hey, native american, i like most of your post but be truthful and tell us who you took the land from prior to your arrival… hmmm????

          • 777Dragone

            Wow what a conundrum that statement is! NO-ONE! ! ! Ironic, that there are two pyramid bases in this world on practically the same latitude, don’t you think? Did you just offer to pay the squandered, stolen, accrued debt of Europe yourself? Your so nice for offering!!!!

            • Albert MacMeda

              In fact the reason that Europeans were so easily able to colonize and take over here was primarily due to two facts:

              1) So-called “natives”, who were no more native than I am, for the most part, were too busy murdering, raping, pillaging and enslaving each other to actually grow a working society and culture. Any that weren’t still obviously did not get too far beyond the stone age – else where is their extensive metalworking and other signs of an advanced civilization?

              2) Further, how did they get here? Their ancestors came from somewhere else. Some usurped those who had come before. Others were the first to come, making them also immigrants or the descendants of immigrants. There were no true “natives” anywhere but in Africa. Everyone else, everywhere, is either an immigrant or a descendant of an immigrant.

              • Albert MacMeda

                In the above I was interrupted and lost my train of thought. If it comes back I did have another point that I had intended for #2 and #3 was to be what I put on #2 for now. Probably not worth bothering with, but if it comes back soon I’ll post it. Another good point, though, is that the Europeans took nothing from no one since those who immigrated here before them never developed the concept of land ownership so had nothing to have taken away.

        • Albert MacMeda

          Dude, I’m as “native American” as anyone. There is not a single person alive who, if you trace their family roots back far enough, does not have relatives who came from SOMEWHERE ELSE. I was born here. I am a “native American”. Second, nobody “stole” anything. That’s just more leftist nonsense. It has ALWAYS, since the first humans evolved, been the case that when one group is under utilizing or not utilizing a place, others eventually come in and utilize it effectively. This is even codified into our laws today. Look up “adverse possession”. Finally, this nation is, was and always will be a Judeo-Christian based nation. If you can’t handle that, go somewhere else.

        • DONAL

          And who did the ‘native americans’ (I guess I am one; I was born here too…) take the land from and ‘pillage, plunder, and rape for it? This was not some brand new thing that the Colonial men suddenly came up with. Native Americans preyed on each other and stole territory and killed their children in horrific ways, so spare me your delicate sensibilities. Your speech was straight out of the ‘I’m-a-Victim’ handbook and it’s wearing mighty thin. Where are all your great, dignified warriors? You shame them.

    • jj

      these paid to play demonstrators are really pissing me and so many NYers off, they are hurting us. Most of us struggle to survive in this city, and they take the little we have, Why are they not where they should be at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave. I will tell you why, the 7th richest NWO criminal in the world SOROS, the behind the scene ringleader of this ‘movement’. is using the “useful idiots” to quote Lenin. And why are the DEMS backing this Marxist nonsense? We all know that answer. This is not for the people it is all theatre for a marxist takeover.

      Note to useful idiots: WE THE REAL PEOPLE ARE NOT GONNA LET IT HAPPEN,
      Go Home to Mummy before a Deadly STAPH breaks out. If you fight Bloomberg and this happens all should be charged with manslaughter, especially if an innocent NYer dies or gets sick. Did your overpaid Liberal Arts Programs teach you anything MTV brats!

    • Evan

      These people are brilliant some one is finally standing up to the machine and saying that the status quo is simply not acceptable anymore. Not after what they did to the world.

      • Albert MacMeda

        What, exactly, are you suggesting “they” did to the world and who, exactly, is “they”.

        Frankly, I bet I already know what you think – no doubt based on leftist talking points that have ZERO basis in fact/truth.

        These people brilliant? If they stick to their guns they’re going to be facing rain, snow, sub-zero temperatures while wallowing in their own vomit, urine and feces. They have zero ability to provide for themselves and the funny thing is it’s likely YOU, without knowing it, are paying (via taxes) for their continued support and encouragement. They have no lives and no future. What’s worst is they don’t realize that it’s the obamunists that put them where they are and the corporations, the banks and the right wing are their only hope of eventual salvation – but first they have to quit their pathetic whining and take responsibility for themselves, for once in their lives! And you’re calling them brilliant?

        Are you retarded?


  • Vince

    said demonstrator Gene Wagner. “If you would’ve given us a Port-A-Potty 30 days ago, we would’ve maintained it ourselves.”

    Give me. Provide for me.
    Why be dependent on someone else?
    Take up a collection in the crowd. Call a local company, and pay for the sanitation facilities yourselves. Don’t sit in your own human waste waiting for someone to bring you what you can provide for yourself.

    • Ryan

      Exactly what I was thinking. Why wait for hand outs, do something yourself. Besides why should the city pay for it?

      • rickg

        This whole “occupation” is about demands for handouts.

      • Tim Holt

        LIBERALS don’t know how to pay for themselves. It only works for them when they are using other peoples money. Throw the scum out.

    • Deeg Againdeeg

      Basic human right of a port-a-potty? Everything is a rite. These guys don’t want to earn much of anything. Everybody else is supposed to support them. Good, God!!

      • VintageAmerican

        My exact thoughts! I was wondering when he would demand the ‘basic right to have someone wipe his tail’ !

      • TomB

        Yep, a Port-a-John is now a “basic human right”. And these cretins expect to be taken seriously…

        • Badwhisky

          The right to a port-a-potty, the right to a sleeping bag, the right to protest? NOOOO. First of all a permit to have a rally in New York is 40 dollars and with a permit the city provides Port-o-lets, second of all there isn’t a right to a house, bed food any of it, there isn’t a basic human right, you have the right to life liberty and the PURSUIT of happiness, there are no guarantees. Life is as fare as you make it. You have the right to peaceful assemble and the right to free speech, as long as it does not violate the rights of others, including those of property owners such as the group that owns the park these dill weeds are squatting in.
          Simple explanation of your rights, they end at the tip of your nose. The founding documents limit our individual rights by default. Example, if I have the right to liberty and life and something you say while practicing your right to freedom of speech causes me the loss of either of those you by definition your right to freedom of speech did not exist (yelling fire in a crowded theater when it isn’t so and causing me to get trampled to death). By the way this is a concept the media doesn’t really grasp.

        • Abilene

          Yeah, I caught that, too. I wonder if it’s also a basic human right to use NYFD water cannons to clean the park. Would be nice to see it happen.

      • Jeanie Pace

        I find it so ironic that the idiots that want everyone regulated to death are now mad because they get regulated. ROTFLMSO

    • Jim

      Let me help translate in their language.
      Let me help translate for the OWS crowd.

      Go “Go” Get “Get” A “Job” And “And ” Pay “Pay” for “for” these “these” things “things” yourself “yourself”

      I learned to speak their language when I watched this video of the Atlanta scion of OWS and how they treated Congressman Lewis.

    • gene

      Thank you Vinny…Right on

    • Leslie

      and they are ruining business for a lot of the small places around there and the street vendors aren’t doing well either because the protesters aren’t buying, they are relying on free food from other places….so the protesters causing these small business owners AND their employees (already pretty low-wages here) to lose money. Just another way they sicken me.

      • Republicrat

        Since when are the protesters obligated to patronize a particular business? This is the most peculiar criticism I’ve heard to date. Not only do we have people accusing the protesters of being anti-capitalist, we have people who are going so far as to say that they’re wrong for exercising their right not to engage in a certain economic activity.

        • Mike

          You are joking right? The protesters themselves say capitalism is the problem. I’ve heard them say it. And yes they have the right not to use a particular business. They DON’T have the right to stop me or anybody else from using that business or infringing on the rights of others to make a living.

        • Gotahugehook

          Do you not have the brain cells to rub together in order to figure out how 2000 smelly hippies might affect local businesses? 2000 smelly hippys who don’t want to spend any money, are looking for handouts, beating stupid drums 24 hours a day, smoking weed, having sex in the park, and overflowing every public toilet in the immediate vicinity….gee that’s just fantastic for local businesses!!

        • Sam Gosdin

          Don’t think you quite get what was being stated. They are blocking small businesses, driving people away from the area they are at (Some report odors so bad that you can’t go near the place), and expecting everything to be handed to them. Best comment I have heard on this was on the radio today… A gentleman called in and stated ” I would go down there and smack my daughter’s head till the white showed.” This is just a bunch of people looking for their 60’s moment, but they picked the wrong cause and the wrong methods. You have to organize first to accomplish anything. Just going out in the streets like this sours most people on your cause pretty quickly. They have some points, but need to get rid of the hand me people in the group. Course from what we are seeing and hearing that might just be all of them. This almost makes me want to fly into New York and see what is going on first hand. Course my Texan heart won’t do that till a certain congressman makes a real apology to “SPACE CITY”. The place where these words were echoed many times from space “HOUSTON….”.

        • Patty

          Yes, they have the right NOT to engage in a certain economic activity…Maybe you should move to the White House and protest Obamacare, letting Obama know how wrong it is to trample on that right to not engage in an economic activity! Leslie’s point being the protesters aren’t buying from these vendors and neither is anyone else that might normally patronize these places, but are not entering that area due to the ‘occupation’. The ‘occupation’ is hurting the struggling small business owners & their employees, not the rich that are the target of this protest. Try thinking it out if you can.

        • Denise E. Rogers

          Just the present of the crowds would keep customers away from the area. And no one is accusing anyone of anything, their signs say it all.

        • Mike w

          The “right not to engage in public activity”, huh? That’s funny, because the centerpiece of the government’s case for Obama care is that the government DOES have the right to compel a person to engage in economic activity, and can force a person to engage in economic activity to purchase health insurance. You leftists need to get your stories straight.


      All I can do is laugh if it weren’t so utterly rIdiculous for people to all but wait for someone else to come by pick them up, provide for them & change their diapers, provide them w/food & feed them, bath them & tuck them in for the night. All while they are typing on their laptops & talking on their iphones.

      • Mike

        But, but, but, mommy and daddy did.

    • mike moon

      Why didn’t these lazy people bring their own Porta potty?

      As tax greedy/happy as New York is, why not charge these cheap skates, $100 dollars a night for rent of the streets, parks, etc…

      Time for lib greed to kick in and tax these parasites to death.

      • Poor old man

        Great idea. Thet can get plastic buckets. They can put plastic bags inside those buckets and change them. They should bring thei own toilet paper.
        They should show personal responabilty for their own health and sanitary needs.

        Personal responabilty.

        Take care of your self first.

    • Nunya Bitness

      MOMMY MOMMY, Change my Di-pee ! Typical liberals suckin on the Gov’s teet !

      • Denise E. Rogers

        Have you ever noticed how the capital dome looks like a big teat?

    • Who? Me?

      The “pursuit of happiness” is a port-a-potty.

    • Buddy

      Why would the occupy bowel movement ask for port o potties when they won’t use them anyway? After all its way more fun to crap on police cars and the American flag instead right fleabaggers?http://randysright.files.wordpress.com/2011/10/312912_1993415004060_1503961942_31627566_1654948941_n.jpg

    • TexBill

      “…life, liberty, and the right tohave a free Portapotty.” Aren’t those the words of the Declaration of Independence. Never mind. Those Flea Baggers don’t believe in independence.

      • Denise E. Rogers

        Even the gutter rats love these people. I heard that the sewer rat population is up.

    • jim

      Exactly. OWS…Clean up your own act.

      OBTW…why isn’t the EPA involved…open sewers are now legal in NYC?

      The face of OWS is a disheveled, soiled and stinky bum with an IPAD or a sign…who just relieved him or herself in public after a frolic for some strange under a blue tarp. All the while demanding attention from people who just want to keep their job and provide for themselves and their families.

      Image is everything and you OWS folks have earned it…nice job. It is not contrived or manipulated…it is on the net for the world to see. Shade your eyes the light is bright and it will stay that way.

      Go get a job! If you lived in that filth start by picking up dog poop in the park and work your way up!

    • Tom

      Perhaps Wagner should call Pelosi or Reid or Ayatollah Seyed Ali Khamenei or Hugo Chavez or Trumka or the DNCC and ask for free things, after al they are all supporters of this rabble

    • JoeDrager

      How in the hell does one “maintain” a porta-potty.

      • TomB

        Probably meant clean it… one handful at a time, and most likely aerially in the direction of the nearest police officer or bank.

      • Denise E. Rogers

        These kids think it’s a concert/party.

    • Mike

      Mommy and daddy probably won’t give them anymore money.

    • me321

      Ever heard of diapers? cuz kids are more mature than you gross outs!

    • Ted Smith

      As a commenter said here about the 25, or so, tents in Denver… Don’t the gangs in NYC know these tents are filled with drugs, money, and naked women?

    • Nicolas Edwards

      The city would not allow them to put a potty anywhere. They have the funds they lack city permission. .. If they can’t have a tarp or a sleeping bag do you thing a portapotty is going to help…. And as you sound , conservative, this protest is not about liberal or conservative. its about taking a country back to the people and not corporations.

    • Nightsong

      Can’t these people “work” “protest” in shifts? Go home, clean up, sleep, eat and then come back to “protest” in shifts??

    • Nightsong

      Right on Vince.

    • 5thcommjarhead

      Exactly! Gimme, gimme, gimme.

    • Matt

      If you brought them free of charge pot-a-potties they would then want someone there to wipe, and powder their butts. Why do they not figure out how to take care of themselves.? People (and the world) would take them more serious if they didn’t sound like a beggers, and spoiled kids wanting something for nothing.

  • Don R

    Nice of you to admit it Michael

    • Michael H.

      Yes, because clearly that is me. CBS has failed time and time again to implement a proper procedure to protect the identities of their loyal readership.

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