Possible Showdown Looms Between City, Protesters Ahead Of Zuccotti Park Cleaning

'Occupy Wall Street' To Fight 'Eviction Notice,' But Apparently Has Backup Plan

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Friday morning could be the beginning of the end of the “Occupy Wall Street” demonstration.

On Thursday, Brookfield Office Management employees were passing out notices to protesters, who have been camped out for 26 days, saying that tarps, sleeping bags and tents are all prohibited in the park, as is lying on the ground and on benches when it becomes an interference for others.

CBS 2 learned late Thursday night the protestors are preparing in case they cannot base their operations out of Zuccotti Park anymore. They are now encouraging people to occupy Tompkins Square Park in the East Village.

“They might as well as just said ‘You’re done,'” one protester told CBS 2’s Ann Mercogliano earlier Thursday.

“This is an eviction notice,” said another.

In relentless solidarity, members of Occupy Wall Street marched to City Hall delivering thousands of petitions to stop Mayor Michael Bloomberg from plowing through Zuccotti with the NYPD and a clean-up crew Friday morning.

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In response to the new regulations, Occupy Wall Street called for supporters to come to Zuccotti Park at 6 a.m. on Friday to “defend the occupation from eviction.” In a statement on their website, the group also encouraged supporters to call 311 and demand that the mayor “support our right to assemble and to not interfere with #OWS.”

That statement also went on to say that if Mayor Bloomberg really cared about sanitation at the park, “he should support the installation of portopans and dumpsters.”

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This is the flyer being distributed to protesters on Oct. 13, 2011. (credit: CBS 2)

The notification followed Wednesday night’s announcement by the mayor’s office that protesters need to leave the park on Friday so it can get cleaned up.

“The last three weeks have created unsanitary conditions and considerable wear and tear on the park,” said the mayor’s office.

Protestors have been diligently cleaning up the park with soapy brooms, and piling up trash on the curb. Nevertheless, Bloomberg outlined a 12-hour plan to scrub down the park starting at 7 a.m.

The cleaning operation is set to take place in three stages, each lasting about four hours. Protesters will have to move from portions of the park that are being cleaned. Although the protesters can return to the cleaned areas of the park, they have to abide by the rules. And those strict rules distributed Thursday seem to suggest a showdown with the NYPD may be imminent.

Legal experts said the city will be breaking the law if they bring in the cops to clear the park without a court order.

“They would be breaching the law.  They would be violating those folks who they would seek to remove and possibly arrest, their fundamental rights to utilize the park and to express their opinions and exercise their First Amendment rights,” Yetta Kurland, with the National Lawyers Guild, told CBS 2’s Hazel Sanchez.

Thursday night, several city leaders also spoke out in support of the occupation.

“It’s up to the mayor and everybody at City Hall to change course. To sit down with the people of Occupy Wall Street and find a peaceful way forward,” said Public Advocate Bill DeBlasio.

“This is the beginning of a movement and you know what, you may not want to hear this, but this is how revolutions start,” said Councilman Charles Barron.

Bloomberg visited the park Wednesday night. He was greeted by a mix of cheers and jeers. His office says that after the park is sanitized, the protesters are welcome to return.

Some folks opposed to the Occupy Wall Street movement have taken to calling them the “Flea Party,” mocking their makeshift camp and ad-hoc cleanup crews.

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Some protesters say they’ve gone to great lengths to keep the park clean.

“I think the mayor and some of his ‘clonies’ are trying to use tactics to get us to move out of the park,” one demonstrator told 1010 WINS’ John Montone.

“There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty,” said demonstrator Gene Wagner. “If you would’ve given us a Port-A-Potty 30 days ago, we would’ve maintained it ourselves.”

“Every day, all day, we clean up the park,” Max Hodes told CBS 2’s Dave Carlin.

1010 WINS’ John Montone reports some protesters don’t trust the mayor

“This is a protest; it’s not a camping area. People aren’t camping here, they’re protesting and we have the right to have sleeping bags.  Where are they gonna sleep? How are they gonna protest?  Without sleeping bags, they can’t protest,” one demonstrator told 1010 WINS’ Stan Brooks.

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(credit: John Montone/1010 WINS)

Some protesters who found themselves caught in rain squalls Thursday morning took shelter in a Bank of America ATM kiosk to stay dry.

WINS’ John Montone asked a protester if there was anything ironic about that.

“We’re using them like they use us,” was the reply he got.

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They also got a boost from musician Tom Morello of Rage Against The Machine. Morello put on a performance at Zuccotti Park on Thursday.

While the mayor has said the park will be cleaned Friday, the protesters don’t seem to be making any plans on going anywhere. They’ve planned a “Family Sleep Over” in the park, set to start at 4 p.m. Friday.

What’s more, the weekend looks as though it may be a busy one for the demonstrators. According to their website, they’re planning a “Mass March on the Banks” followed by a plan to “Occupy Times Square” at 5 p.m. Saturday.

According to the site, the function in Times Square will be a party “in the festive sense of the word.” At 6:30 p.m. Saturday, there’s an event planned called “Occupy the Subway,” but no details on that have been made available.

All of those planned events meant little to some nearby businesses. Mike Keane, owner of nearby O’Hara’s Pub, told CBS 2’s Carlin demonstrators use his bathrooms and disrupt his business.

“I really hope this circus moves on. I’ve had my fill of these people,” Keane said.

He said the clean-up plan is not enough.

“Somebody’s going to wind up getting killed and maybe then someone will say let’s get them out of here. Hopefully it doesn’t take that,” Keane said.

Tell us your thoughts about the Occupy Wall Street movement in our comments section below.

  • JM in San Diego CA

    So the cleanup was delayed because the bums said they might be upset. O-o-oh, poor babies!!! Bloomberg needs to be renamed Bloompuss.

    I left decades ago and nothing — N-O-T-H-I-N-G — that ever happens in NYC suggests it was a bad move.

    Why do you stay? Are the rats such fun pets?

  • disenchanted

    I don’t understand that these protestors are embracing the celebrities, who are for the most part obscenely wealthy, the president who made over 5 million last year and yes I consider that wealthy, barney franks and dobbs et al who were instrumental in the freddie mac and fannie mae debacle. No these people are just useful idiots to barry and company. He is using them for his re election campaign, and you silly people he cares not one iota for you, only for what you can do to forward his cause. you are throw aways for his use.

    You all need to go back home, back to school or the street grates. I will make a flying assumption that the unions, soros and acorn are not going to pay you forever to besmirch those who work hard and have worked hard and have EARNED what they have. It is not the responsibility of the United States Constitution, middle class or corporations to give you anything. you are not entitled to anything and you MUST EARN it. When are you all going to get that through your drug induced brains? One thing though with the democrats supporting you, it has shown the preponderance of the American people they really don’t want anything to do with them and you all are what everyone would turn into if the demons got their way.

    • JM in San Diego CA

      It wasn’t Dobbs, you clod, it was Dodd. Dodd is a Liberal Congressman; Dobbs is a Conservative broadcaster.

      Using the wrong people in your similes will lead to having your song taken off ESPN.

  • Willy Brown

    Flea Baggers take over and the Mayor runs like th erich coward that he is. Love him or hate him; Rudy would have had this mess cleaned up a long time ago, flea baggers and all

  • GreedRules

    Don’t blame the unemployed. Their jobs have been automated, outsourced and off-shored (to foreign lands). Meanwhile, the rich are LOL with their net worth salted away in foreign tax havens. This is just out:

    While the stagnant economy continues to hurt those at the bottom of the American workforce, there’s plenty of money for the .0001 percent at the top. (The compensation totals, compiled by Forbes’ stats guru Scott DeCarlo, include salary, bonuses, perks and the value of exercised stock options through Sept. 6.

    Compensation for the chief executives of America’s biggest corporations is way up in 2011, 28 percent higher than last year on average, according to GovernanceMetrics International. If you were already in the top quartile of high-paid plutocrats, your comp nearly doubled. Cash bonuses are triple what they were before the recession.

  • Hidden Agenda

    Does Bloomberg have a hidden Occupy Wall Street agenda? Let’s begin the analysis with the little-reported fact that Mayor Bloomberg’s girlfriend Diana L. Taylor is on the board of directors for Brookfield, who owns Zuccoti Park. It would not be much of a stretch to conclude that the Mayor and his girlfriend arrived at the decision to postpone the cleanup together. Why would the Mayor do that?

    Read more at http://www.leadfootedrabbit.com/2011/10/does-bloomberg-have-hidden-occupy-wall.html#more

  • Mary

    ROTFL!!! Seriously…those protesting are asking for porto potties and dumpsters to be installed. They can’t even protest without government support. Completely pathetic.

    • GreedRules

      Mary: Send me your address and I see that you get one (a johnathon delux) too!

  • brandon

    How interesting, the United States Government bombs and kills thousands of people in other countries on the pretext that they are defending their freedom and right to protest, but denies people in its own country the right to freedom and protest.

    • spike

      @brandon, youre right to ‘free speech’ does NOT include a ‘right’ to trash PRIVATE property

  • JeddMcHead

    Break out the hoses, mace, clubs and rubber bullets, if necessary!

    Not to use on the protestors, though — use this stuff on the MSM until they start REPORTING the news and stop SCRIPTING it.

  • Jack L

    DONT LET the movement get CO-OPED by the Left or Right. Message is simple, 1% are Rich 995 are not. RESPOSIABLE Capitalism.

    Make the game fair.

    • JeddMcHead

      Jack L — does the “L” stand for “Loser” or “Looter”? Make the game fair? How Jack? How much fairer can “apply yourself, be responsible for your actions and decisions, make something of YOURSELF and don’t whine about life not being fair because it ISN’T”???

      EVERYONE is free to succeed in America but if you let every disappointment or failure knock you down you WON’T succeed — simple as THAT.

      Grow up and quit looking for a “compassionate government” because there is NO such thing, never has been, never will be. The BEST we can hope for is a government that will STAY OUT OF THE WAY of business.

      Btw, “1% are RICH 995 (sic) are not.” is a LIE, unless you consider anyone making under $300,000 a year “poor”. YOU are SUCH a TOOL!!!

  • Francis

    The Flea Party needs an official platform besides. We Stink, We don’t want to work, You owe us.

  • bob m

    They take shelter in Bank of America and justify it by saying, “We use them like they use us.” So OWS is no better than BOA. For all their high ideals, they do not LIVE a better standard; they just TALK it.

    They blame the City for not giving them toilets and dumpsters. So, AGAIN, they justify their illegal (or even just disgusting) activity on someone else.

  • Tax payor

    This says it all right here: “There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty”.

    It’s not up to the city to provide for you, they are not your Mommy. Learn to take care of yourself and be part of the solution not part of the problem. A bunch of kids with their heads up their backsides. Working hard to get it out.

  • GabbaGabbaHey

    We’ll see how gung-ho they are about whatever it is that they’re doing when it’s below zero. Also, if all these bums REALLY cared about whatever it is they’re doing they’d have more respect for their surroundings, but they don’t.

  • the mouse

    What a bunch of sophomoric morons. Sheep that do not even realize they have been manipulated and used by others that have an agenda (although what the actual agenda is no one seems to know). Their anger toward Wall Street is merely a very clever diversion by their hidden leaders to take the attention away from the real culprit which, of course, is the government itself. In 1992 the government directed Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac to make sure that 30% of their loans went to subprime recipients. It was later increased to 40%. Both Clinton and Bush administrations supported this mandate. Wall Street tagged along with other financial instruments in support of the mortgage mandate because there was money to be made. When the housing bubble burst, it took Wall Street along with it. Obama, being a good socialist, saw the opportunity to take down the financial sector ( banks and wall street) with onerous regulation when in fact the real culprit was the government itself. By the way, the three people associated with Fannie and Freddie all work for Obama now. Check it out:
    FRANKLIN RAINES? Raines works for the Obama Campaign as his Chief Economic Advisor.
    TIM HOWARD? Howard is a Chief Economic Advisor to Obama under Franklin Raines.
    JIM JOHNSON? Johnson was hired as a Senior Obama Finance Advisor and was selected to run Obama’s Vice Presidential Search Committee.

  • stan

    A right to porta potties? They would take care of them by themselves? How? One needs a special truck to dispose of the waste, is the city to pay for that also or are the protestors to do so on their own. If it can be done on their own they can certainly pay for a porta potty Didn’t know one existed. Emotion has over taken reason. the idea the city would stand for just moving aside the protestors clean an area then have them move back to the area is more than fair. The regulations posted are not new rather they have not been previously enforced.

  • Joe

    Protesters have the backing of Obama-Pelosi and Co…..Obama should be calling off the police and let the protesters do anything they want to do? Those are Obamas type of people. How is that working out for Obama-pelosi and Co?

  • eg lopez

    Are we seeing the cracks in the great American experiment. The beginning of the end, the fall of the American Empire. Remember Egypt, the Greeks, the Romans, the British. All the signs are there. Is there still time to salvage this great American experiment.
    Our system and our politicians do not work anymore. Maybe, we should try a Parliamentary system.
    Let the conversation begin.

  • Kim Bailey

    LIBERAL PROTESTERS PAID BY OBAMA:” Burn down Wall St. but Please Re-Elect Obama”
    Obama is desperate to hang on to power and will explode nukes to create chaos and rule by Martial Law for 10 yrs.

  • WDochertaigh

    I wish the ‘partying protestors’ would redo their math – 99%? that does not include me or any of my blue and white collar coworkers, more like 9%ers. I agree wall street needs a leash – but thru legal legitimate methods. An illegal occupation of private property by masses of unwashed socialists – ? Nope, ineffective, pitiful and a serious biohazard.

  • advancegoals

    hey brilliant protestors… it’s a PRIVATE park. not a PUBLIC space. you should have done your homework before launching such a protest in this place. guess the pot brownies were just too good to pass up, huh?

    • Richard Tattersall

      It’s privately OWNED park. When the license from the city to set-up the park was signed, part of the agreement was that the public has full access 24/7, If it ever goes to court.it’s a totally different situation. YOU should do your homework before you post your comments

  • Jim

    The complaints and grievances should be directed squarely at the White House and Obama himself. He has egotistically said on numerous occasions that he’s “in charge”. If that is so, then it is his duty to respond to the people and give an account for his actions, or lack of them. He has made life very unpleasant for many of the American citizenry plus backs BIG CORP and BIG BANK, quiet as it’s kept. These protesters need to start barking up the correct tree.

    • JeddMcHead

      I love that Oblame-a, Pelosi, et al, alligned themselves with these losers. I hope folks remember this in 2012.

  • Richard Tattersall

    Thomas Jefferson warned this country about what could happen. In the Preamble to his original draft of the Declaration of Independence,
    We hold these truths to be sacred & undeniable; that all men are created equal & independent, that from that equal creation they derive rights inherent & inalienable, among which are the preservation of life, & liberty, & the pursuit of happiness; that to secure these ends, governments are instituted among men, deriving their just powers from the consent of the governed; that whenever any form of government shall become destructive of these ends, it is the right of the people to alter or to abolish it, & to institute new government, laying its foundation on such principles & organizing its powers in such form, as to them shall seem most likely to affect their safety & happiness

    Thomas Jefferson, 1816
    “The system of banking we have both equally and ever reprobated. I contemplate it as a blot left in all our constitutions, which, if not covered, will end in their destruction, which is already hit by the gamblers in corruption, and is sweeping away in its progress the fortunes and morals of our citizens”.
    Nobody listened
    condemn strongly as unworthy, unacceptable, or evil
    That about covers it.

  • RJ MacReady

    The anger and ignorance displayed on this forum can be clarified in one word: FEAR

    You should be scared. You’ve been brainwashed by Drudge, Fox, Beck, and Limbaugh….and their little world of corporate oligarchy is crashing down.

    This isn’t a fad. It isn’t the 60’s. It’s the truth, and you are f@#$ing scared.

    Insert your “I’m packing let them come to my house comment here”


    • Jim

      Sorry but FOX et al doesn’t run this nation—-the POTUS does. Take your bellyaching to him where it belongs. “Scared”??—hardly. You don’t speak for me.

      Where ya been—vacactioning on Planet X somehere???

    • JeddMcHead

      Lol, RJ, better check your bed sheets — I’m guessing they’re well soaked.


  • MikeW

    There’s a lot of stuff we wouldn’t have to clean up if the city provided basic human rights, like a Port-A-Potty,” said demonstrator Gene Wagner.
    What isn’t a human right to these people, Clothes, food, schooling,Jobs, these are not rights, someone has to produce them, and you don’t want them to be patd for it? If you want all these “RIGHTS” there is a country just 90 miles south of this country you can go to…

  • Newtie and the Beauty

    Since when do trespassers on private property have “rights”?? And where do these cretins get off saying/implying that it’s the city’s “responsibility” to *ahem!* provide Port-a-Potties, etc, for “free”?

    These low-lifes, hypocrites and ne’er-do-wells should go back to what they were doing a month ago and pick up what’s left of their “old” lives.

    • Richard Tattersall

      The way that park is licensed, The public has full access 24/7. THAT’S why.

      • Jim

        It’s still private property, regardless. Owned by a group of businessmen. The Dept. of Buildings says so.

      • advancegoals

        go read the license and contract – it is most certainly not public access 24/7 and is subject to rules which are being ignored and disregarded. be intellectually honest and get informed instead of dribbling ignorant tripe.

  • Dave

    These idiots are on the move too. If they’re coming to your town, organize a Kick the Occupiers A55 “protest” of your own and send em packin.

  • Dave

    How about “Occupy a Jail Cell”.

  • Osamas Pajamas

    Bloomberg FINALLY gets one right and evicts the Flea Party? No shxt?

  • Govt Sponsored Anarchy

    Evict them the old school way. Bring 500 German Shepherd police dogs and massive fire hoses. Cut all of it loose at once but be sure to protect the dogs from any abuse. Shoot to kill…

    • JeddMcHead

      I wouldn’t want to expose dogs to that filth. Hose them down real good first, then release the hounds!

  • Mr. Ed

    They start the protest, create a stinking mess and without contributing funds to pay for sanitary services, demand porta pottys. If the tax payers of this overly self inflated city don’t kick this bunch of miscreants into the river, you deserve all the stench, disruption and lost income for small, medium and large businesses and the disrespect and missuse of your properties. Just how ineffectual are you that you can’t see a set up by marxist organizers and their useful idiots from the dreggs of society, and from some of the finest marxist colleges on earth, right here in the USA. Brats, pigs and mis-guided trogloytes infecting a public venue and you can’t come up with the courage to bounce these left turned zealots out of your city. Don’t ever look down again on “redneck America” as your citizens are so want to declare anyone not from the self proclaimed “greatest” city in the world. The rest of the country salutes you as keepers of the clutter. Eat protester quiche and cry.

    • Jim

      Well said. It’s hypocrisy at it’s finest, plus a bunch of people who didn’t gather their research properly and fell for the oldest trick in the book—manipulation.

  • Frank

    Its pouring in NY..a good chance for the protesters to clean themselves or better yet get the heck out of the park and go home. If you haven’t made your point after all this time, then you won’t get anything accomplished now except getting free food and clothing.

  • Prophet2525

    Occupy Wall Street, Occupy TIme Square, Occupy The Subway. Can wait till they Occupy The Prisons

  • gphsisks

    Buh, buh, buh… This is a peeeeaceful protest! I mean, they’re just concerned citizens that sprouted up out of the earth…. calling for the complete overthrow of the United States and the implementation of Soviet style communism…. Geee, under Communism, everyone is equal….ly poor. What’s the problem?

  • Delphinus13

    EVERY time these protesters speak in an interview, they display their complete and utter ignorance and stupidity for all the world to see. A port-o-potty is a “right!?!?” Are you kidding. No one is that stupid, except your typical dirtbag protester. There’s a reason not one of these clowns has a job. It’s because no one will hire them. I wouldn’t hire them. They’re lazy, entitled, idiots who deserve NOTHING but a good hard kick in the arse.

  • Dr. Robotnik

    Throw a stack of job applications into the crowd. That’ll disperse them.

  • Gunny G

    These punks need to learn some hard lessons in life. Let em crap on the grounds like the animals they are.

  • Paul

    It’s funny how these people say “If they would’ve given us a porta potty!” Who’s exactly going to pay for this? The city has no obligation to provide a private gathering with a publicly funded facilities JUST for them. Do they not realize that taxpayers would have to foot the bill for this??

  • dallas yankee

    If you try to move into Tompkins where all the limousome ;liberals live, you wont last an hour before they get together and evict you.

  • Tommy Tornado

    Welcome to the Flea Party!

  • Buck

    “All of those planned events meant little to some nearby businesses.”… Are you serious? Hey, CBS, maybe you could indulge yourself a little by actually reading the comments to this/your article. Once again you’ve completely understated the feelings and the mood of the American people on this subject. I take it that you’ll put a different emphasis on this statement in your next article that actually reflects the truth and bares witness to the quotes by those affected in the business sectors as well as just the plain old private citizen. “meant little” my ass. Nice bias reporting.

  • Barack Obama Sucks It

    Spray the vermin with hot water and soap and watch em run like Frenchmen from the Germans!

    • Dave the SEAL

      HAHAHAHAHHAAH! Send in the NYC sanitation department with lye soap and scrub brushes. They’ll run like Barney Frank after a young male intern!

  • Scratch

    A port-a-pottie is a basic human right? Fascinating.

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