Queens Family Hopes Son Ilan Grapel Will Be Released From Egypt

News Reports Suggest Israel May Offer 80 Prisoners For Return Of American

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — On the heels of Gilad Shalit returning home after spending five years in a Hamas prison, a second Israeli prisoner swap was being negotiated on Tuesday, one that hits real close to home.

It involves a law student from Queens who is being held in Egypt as an alleged spy, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.

Daniel Grapel said all he wants is his son back.

“It’s pain to see your son in a place where I don’t have any control over how I can help to get him out of the situation and that’s a frustration,” Daniel Grapel said.

WCBS 880’s Paul Murnane On The Story

Ilan Grapel, 27, an American who holds dual American-Israeli citizenship, was arrested four months ago on charges that he was an Israeli spy trying to sabotage the Egyptian revolution. He had served as a paratrooper in the Israeli Army. Egyptian authorities apparently identified him from a Facebook picture.

“Totally fictitious, not based on any fact. It was just trumped-up charges,” Daniel Grapel said.

“He is not a spy. He is a young American born on the United States, went to one of our prestigious high schools in the City of New York, went to Johns Hopkins,” said Congressman Gary Akerman, D-Queens.

Akerman, who has been working to free Ilan Grapel, said the hope is that following Tuesday’s release of Shalit – who was swapped for some 1,000 Palestinian prisoners — there will be a second swap to free the young American.

News reports suggest the Israelis will exchange 80 Egyptians they arrested on drug and other charges for Ilan Grapel.

“We are also hopeful that Ilan Grapel will similarly be released. We see no basis for legal action against him,” Secretary of State Hillary Clinton said.

Congressman Akerman said he was able to get Daniel and Irene Grapel into their son’s Egyptian prison for a brief visit last month, but the parents said they are just anxious for him to return to American soil.

“He certainly had nothing to do with fomenting the revolution against Mubarak, fire bombing police station,” as Irene told WCBS 880 reporter Paul Murnane her son is also accused.

She called the charges “ludicrous.”

When asked what’s the first thing he’ll do if his son gets out, Daniel Grapel said, “Just basically give him a big kiss, a big hug. My wife and I just trying to forget what happened.”

When and if Ilan Grapel is released he’ll be returning to his Queens home to his mom, his dad and his older sister, Michal.

No one involved wants to talk about the exact time of Ilan Grapel’s release because it involves the Egyptian, Israeli and American governments and the tangle of Middle East politics.

Please offer your thoughts in the comments section below.

More from Marcia Kramer
  • poorhardworker

    It will be interesting to see if the current administration flips it’s position again on prisoner swaps now that an American is involved….wait for it….wait for it….

  • Jasonn

    No reason to encourage more bad behavior by Hamas by dealing with those kidnappers.

    • Mike

      Thanks for that. It was very informative. Although I have come to realize Todd doesnt pay attention to facts. He merely likes to attack by judging the way you mispell words as I have. There is no real substance to Todd.

      • Todd

        Mike, I never mentioned your spelling. I stated that your level of fluency in English isn’t high enough to carry off the BS that you are putting forward. Then again, rank stupidity would likely sound exactly the same in your native tongue, which would probably be Hebrew.

  • Carlos

    Never say Israel (our most important ally) never does anything for us again. They have been EVER SINCE ’48. When they started fighting the demonic scourge of radical, militant, Islamic terrorism.


    • Todd

      Fighting radical Islam since 1948? That’s a great twist, Carlos. Radical Islam was more likely a reaction to Israel’s presence in the region. Remember, most of Israel’s enemies had a long fling with socialism, under the USSR’s tutelage before radical Islam appeared, while looking for protection from Zionism.

      It’s not the world’s fault that you people were stupid enough to form a state in the region. You went looking for trouble and found it. What a surprise! At least have the guts and decency to be honest about your enemies. You people are the aggressors, victimizers and land thieves, not the other way around. The reality of the situation is so clear-cut that only a brazen liar or a crazy person could argue otherwise. Are you a brazen liar or crazy, Carlos?

      Eventually, you will have no support from abroad. What will you do in complete isolation? I think it would be wise to start playing nice right now. It’s probably way too late, but it’s worth a try.

  • Eric

    These comments are very funny; however they seem to explain how we got both Bush and Obama elected. FYI, Mossad agents don’t post pictures of themselves on Facebook, neither do NSA, CIA, MI6, or FSB personnel.

    This poor schmuck was naive enough to travel to a country that kicked out all of their Jews between 1967 and 1970. Further, he was so clueless that he assumed that his US Passport would shield him from the implications of his Israeli citizenship. Egyptians are the same folks who destroyed the Israeli embassy recently. Do you really think that the Egyptians think that treaties and conventions are anything but Western foolishness? The only concept of reciprocity recognized in Islam is revenge. But a hostage is a hostage, and this form of diplomacy is not unusual in this area of the world; apply 21st century logic to a 6th century context and you’ll be a very confused commentator.

    For those interested in how dual citizenship is allowed State Department Reg 7 FAM 1162 lays it out clearly. Read Kawakita v. U.S. or Schneider v. Rusk for the reasoning. Try less ranting and more thought and you might actually change someone’s mind rather than just adding to the ambient noise.

    • Todd

      Well, Eric, it isn’t working out very well, is it? We could do without the dual citizens.

      • Eric

        If you don’t like dual citizenship, then do something about it.

        The process for eliminating dual citizenship is to amend the US Constitution to require that anyone professing allegiance to a foreign power be stripped of their US Citizenship and that the process of naturalization would require that a candidate forever repudiate their former citizenship under any foreign power. For those people who are eligible for foreign citizenship by right based upon the Constitution or laws of a foreign power, they must forever reject their right to exercise that choice at the age of majority in order to maintain their US Citizenship. While this would still allow dual citizenship, in practice, for minors, the alternative would be for their parent or guardian to make this choice for them which is likely not binding under International law. Please follow these simple instructions under Article V to make this change:

        “The Congress, whenever two thirds of both Houses shall deem it necessary, shall propose Amendments to this Constitution, or, on the Application of the Legislatures of two thirds of the several States, shall call a Convention for proposing Amendments, which, in either Case, shall be valid to all Intents and Purposes, as Part of this Constitution, when ratified by the Legislatures of three fourths of the several States or by Conventions in three fourths thereof, as the one or the other Mode of Ratification may be proposed by the Congress; Provided that no Amendment which may be made prior to the Year One thousand eight hundred and eight shall in any Manner affect the first and fourth Clauses in the Ninth Section of the first Article; and that no State, without its Consent, shall be deprived of its equal Suffrage in the Senate.”

        May you have fair winds and following seas.

        • Todd


          I’m aware that we have laws regarding the issue. Your point? We have all sorts of laws that are ignored by the government when convenient for the powerful, or that are stupid. This is just another case of the elites destroying the concept of American citizenship. Try having them enforce our explicitly stated laws on immigration, or look at the twisting of the 14th amendment to allow anchor babies.

          In the end, the use of dual citizenship by supporters of Israel will be seen as just another way in which Zionists were destructive towards their host country. Nothing good comes from you people.

  • Hank Warren

    Don’t always believe Israel especially about the past.
    9/11 and Israel, here:

  • RufusVonDufus

    Even at 1,200 to 1 the Israelis got the better of that deal.

  • marty

    how come an American is only worth 80 arabs, but an Israeli is worth over 1000?

    • caligula

      You’re looking at it backwards. It’s actually:
      80 egyptians = 1,000 “palestinians”

      And 1 Westerner = up to 1,000 arabs.

      Arabs are worthless pieces of shhhhhhh

    • Babylonian

      The Israelis only have 80 Egyptian prisoners while they had over 10,000 Palestinian prisoners

      • anony

        That speaks volumes about the Palestinians.

  • Mike Carrington

    They have this backwards. What they need to do is start executing one prisoner per day until Grapel is released. After 79 days, if he’s still a captive, they can do a one-for-one swap.

  • EasterBunny

    Go home jew.

    • LTCB

      You’re clearly a “fairy tale” EasterBunny. Real men love the Jewish people. Real Christians pray for them always and without ceasing. Jews are citizens all over the world. The problem is they’re not treated like it anywhere but, in the USA and Israel.

      • Todd

        You aren’t really going to try and explain Christianity for Christians, are you? Why don’t you start with the part about driving the money-changers from the temple. Or to make it simple, just apply the Ten Commandments to the actions of Zionists and Israel. This should be entertaining!

  • Todd

    Dual citizenship should not be allowed. I despise Israel and her supporters in the U.S. These people are not Americans in any sense. And so what if Israel swaps “prisoners” for spies and “soldiers”? A good number of the “prisoners” rotting in Israeli prisons were denied basic legal rights, and amount to nothing more than hostages themselves.

    The U.S. interest in the region is OIL, and the sooner we sever ties with Israel and clean house of the Zionists and Israel-onliers in this nation, the better.

    • BILL CLINTON i did inhale


      • Todd

        I’m a poor black man? Explain what you mean by that accusation! That’s original. I don’t know what you mean, but I’ve never heard that accusation from a Zionist before.

    • Mike

      Israel has more significant contributions used and needed all over the world than any country or nation of its size proportionately since its inception. Whithout Israel the world will be a worst place to live in. Instead of promoting life you Todd will promote the destruction of a country that has changed the way we view mathematics and science. Why are you so blinded by hate? You know you should start to love them because the Bible says that if you curse Israel you will be cursed but if you bless them you will be blessed. Oh maybe you will say im a religiouse finatic or that I am a “jew sympothizer”. That seems to me to be just a way around saying I hate Jesus Christ. The U.S. understands that Israel is the only reason why there is a certain level of peace in the entire middle east. They are the greatest country in the entire middle east and you want to get rid of them. I say you are a “Admadinajad sympothizer”! Nothing more!

      • Todd

        Israel has changed the way the world views math and science, huh? Too funny, Mike! I’ve never listened to Ahmadinejad, and I don’t have to listen to Palestinian activists to know that Israel is not a U.S. concern. The rest of your post is pure garbage. Don’t try to explain Christianity to me, or claim that Israel is a peaceful and stabilizing influence in the region. Nonsense!

        I’m sure that English isn’t your native language, but your level of fluency isn’t high enough to allow you to effectively push the type of nonsense that you are putting forth.

        • Mike "did you not read the facts i laid out for you"

          My goal isnt to convice or push anyone of anyting. My goal is simply to not let people like you go unchecked. I underestimated you. Instead of listening to others and being influenced by liberals those comments were birthed out of your own hear. Thats bad! We can see your deeply rooted in a hatred for a people. Not good Tod. Thanks for complimenting my english. Your right I wasnt an English major.

          • Todd

            Oh, no, Mike, you don’t have an agenda to push! Whatever! Everyone who is tired of Israel’s and Zionism’s negative influence is full of fear and hatred, huh? That sounds like a bit of projection to me! Either way, isn’t it rational to dislike Zionism and worry about the trouble that Zionists are willing to stir up? You people are crazy!

    • JJGH

      Hey anti-semitic Todd, we benefit with Israel in many ways, e.g. Israeli scientists produce many patents and inventions and nobel prizes that make your life much better. Israel is a wonderful place to visit for vacations as well. Egypt is living in the 7th century worshipping Mohammed who married a 6 yr old

      • Todd


        I’ve been to Israel, and there is nothing to defend for Americans. If I want to see the Middle East, I’ll go to a real Middle Eastern country. If I want to see Europe, I’ll go to Europe. If I want to see a Jewish police state funded by the American taxpayer and Jewish fraudsters in the diaspora, I’ll go back to Israel. No thanks! If I want to see rude, ill-mannered, ethnic-chauvinist Jews who despise non-Jews, I can go to any number of American cities with a Jewish population.

        And for your other claims, we can clearly see that the Nobel Prize is meaningless at this point, and Israel is a financial drain on the U.S. Let’s not even get started on the parasitical nature of Israel’s scientific, economic and military achievements. The world is tiring of people like you.

        If disliking the nature of Israel and ethnocentric Jews means that I’m an anti-Semite, then I’m a proud anti-Semite. It’s not like the dislike towards the whole situation isn’t well earned.

        • Mike "arguing fact" Not fiction

          Are you that blinded that you are an American and you cant seem to see at all what the truth is?! I understand that you have a right to think what you want to think. You probably wont be able to in several years go to the other middle east countries at all. They want to kill americans. Now granted not all of them do. I realize this. Most do ad talk about it openly. You want proof then look up anti america or anti israel on youtube. There is proof all I need.

          I’ve never heard anyone as ignorant as you in my adult life. The other middle east countries are killing their own people for professing to be christians and teachin their children to hate. Now how could you teach an innocent child to hate when they naturally grow up loving?

          I would hope you dont teach your kids to hate. Maybe you need some counseling because it seems you have issues with peopl who have not ever done you harm personally.

          What have the Jews done to you? If you’ve been to the middle east then you’ll see that they are the best country and brightest out there. As far as Israel being being a finacial drain on america that statement is false. Here is the facts since you have none.

          If Israel, with her dynamic workforce from over 100 nations, did not exist, the world would be less advanced than it is today. Here is a capsule of Israeli accomplishments you may not be fully aware of. Israel, the 100th smallest country, with less than 1/1000th of the world’s population, can lay claim to the following:

          o The cell phone was developed in Israel by Israelis working in the Israeli branch of Motorola, which has its largest development center in Israel.

          o Most of the Windows NT and XP operating systems were developed by Microsoft-Israel.

          o The Intel Pentium chip technology was designed in Israel.

          o Both the Pentium-4 microprocessor and the Centrino processor were entirely designed, developed, and produced in Israel. In January 2005, an upgraded version of its Centrino chipset was, like its predecessor, conceived in Intel’s development center in Haifa. The product features new graphics and audio capabilities, faster processing, and greater security features. Intel’s next major endeavor, a chipset to support the more advanced WiMax standard for wireless Internet, is also being spearheaded in Israel.

          o The Pentium microprocessor in your computer was most likely made in Israel.

          o Internet voice-mail technology was developed in Israel.

          o Both Microsoft and Cisco built their only R&D facilities outside the U.S. in Israel.

          o Four young Israelis developed the technology for the AOL Instant Messenger ICQ in 1996.

          o Nobel prizes have been awarded to 167 Jews and persons of half-Jewish ancestry, accounting for 22% of all individual recipients world wide between 1901 and 2004 and constituting 37% of all U.S. recipients during the same period. In the scientific research fields of chemistry, economics, medicine, and physics, the corresponding world and U.S. percentages are 26% and 39%, respectively. Jews currently make up approximately 0.25% of the world’s population and 2% of the U.S. population. Yet they have won prizes in these fields:

          o CHEMISTRY: (28 prize winners, 19% of world total, 28% of U.S. total)

          o ECONOMICS: (21 prize winners, 38% of world total, 53% of U.S. total)

          o LITERATURE: (12 prize winners, 12% of world total, 27% of U.S. total)

          o PHYSIOLOGY OR MEDICINE: (52 prize winners, 29% of world total, 42% of U.S. total)

          o PEACE: (9 prize winners, 10% of world total, 11% of U.S. total)

          o PHYSICS: (45 prize winners, 26% of world total, 38% of U.S. total)

          o In 1955, Jewish doctor Jonas Salk gave the world the polio vaccine, which was composed of “killed” polio virus that retained the ability to immunize without running the risk of infecting the patient.

          o Jewish entertainers, musicians, artists, comedians, singers, and film producers have blessed the world in a percentage far greater than their proportion in the world’s population.

          o Israel has the fourth largest air force in the world (after the U.S., Russia, and China). In addition to a large variety of other aircraft, Israel’s air force has an arsenal of over 250 F-16s. This is the largest fleet of F-16 aircraft outside of the U.S.

          o Israel’s US $100 billion economy is larger than all of its immediate neighbors combined.

          o Israel has the world’s highest percentage of home computers per capita.

          o According to industry officials, Israel has designed the airline industry’s most impenetrable flight security. U.S. officials now look to Israel for advice on how to handle airborne security threats.

          o Israel has developed on in-flight cell-phone system that will allow cell-phone use on airlines at an affordable price.

          o Israel has the highest ratio of university degrees to the population in the world; 24% of Israeli workers hold university degrees, ranking third in the industrialized world, after the U.S. and Holland, and 12% hold advanced degrees.

          o Israel produces more scientific papers per capita than any other nation by a large margin—109 per 10,000 people—and has one of the highest per capita rates of patents filed.

          o In proportion to its population, Israel has the largest number of start-up companies in the world. In absolute terms, Israel has the largest number of start-up companies compared to an other country in the world, except the U.S.(3,500 companies, mostly in high-tech). And with both high-tech companies and start-ups, Israel has the highest concentration of high-tech companies in the world—apart from the Silicon Valley in the U.S.

          o The first PC antivirus software was developed in Israel in 1979, and Israel continues as the world leader in developing antivirus software programs.

          o Israel is ranked number two in the world for venture capital funds, right behind the U.S.

          o Outside the U.S. and Canada, Israel has the largest number of NASDAQ-listed companies.

          o Israel has the highest average living standards in the Middle East.

          o The per capita income in 2000 was over US $17,500, exceeding that of the United Kingdom.

          o On a per capita basis, Israel has the largest number of biotech start-ups.

          o Israel is the only liberal democracy in the Middle East.

          o In 1984 and 1991, Israel airlifted a total of 22,000 Ethiopian Jews, at risk in Ethiopia, to safety in Israel.

          o When Golda Meir was elected prime minister of Israel in 1969, she became the world’s second elected female leader in modern times.

          o Israel has the third highest rate of entrepreneurship—and the highest rate among women and among people over 55—in the world.

          o Relative to its population, Israel is the largest immigrant-absorbing nation on earth. Immigrants come in search of democracy, religious freedom, and economic opportunity.

          o Israel was the first nation in the world to adopt the Kimberly process, an international standard that certifies diamonds as “conflict-free.”

          o Israel has the world’s second-highest per capita of new books.

          o Israel is the only country in the world that entered the 21st century with a net gain in its number of trees, a remarkable feat because this was achieved in an area considered mainly desert.

          o Israel has more museums per capita than any other country.

          o In 1991, during the Persian Gulf War, the Israel Philharmaonic Orchestra played a concert wearing gas masks as Scud missiles fired by Saddam Hussein fell on Tel Aviv.

          o Israeli scientists developed the first fully computerized, no-radiation diagnostic instrumentation for breast cancer.

          o Israel has two official languages, Hebrew and Arabic, with both English and Russian spoken widely.

          o An Israeli company developed a computerized system for ensuring proper administration of medications, thus removing human error from medical treatment. Every year in U.S. hospitals, 7,000 patients die from treatment mistakes.

          o In response to serious water shortages, Israeli engineers and agriculturalists developed a revolutionary drip-irrigation system to minimize the amount of water used to grow crops.

          o Israel’s Givun Imaging developed the first ingestible video camera, so small it fits inside a pill. It is used to view the small intestine from the inside to detect cancer and digestive disorders.

          o Researchers in Israel developed a new device that directly helps the heart pump blood, and innovation with the potential to save lives among those with heart failure. The new device is synchronized with a camera and helps doctors diagnose the heart’s mechanical operations through a sophisticated system of sensors.

          o Israel leads the world in the number of scientists and technicians in the workforce with 145 per 10,000, as opposed to 85 in the U.S., over 70 in Japan, and less than 60 in Germany. With over 25% of its workforce employed in technical professions, Israel places first in this category as well.

          o A new acne treatment developed in Israel, the ClearLight device, produces a high-intensity, ultraviolet-light-free, narrow-band blue light that causes acne bacteria to self-destruct—all without damaging surrounding skin or tissue.

          o An Israeli company was the first to develop and install a large-scale, solar-powered, and fully functional electricity-generating plant in southern California’s Mojave Desert.

          • Todd


            Most of your post is probably bunk. Either way, Israel is rightfully a pariah state. The U.S. will catch up with the rest of the world in regards to Israel eventually.

            BTW, Israel does not exist in a vacuum. Israel benefits heavily from U.S. technological exchange, sweetheart trade deals and economic support, not the other way around. We’ll eventually tire of your fifth column co ethnics, and then where will you be?

            • caligula

              it’s just hilarious! Todd the Putz just doesn’t want to believe that while Israel has been making huge contributions to the world in the modern era, his Islamo-fascist buddies haven’t contributed anything except the term “suicide bomber” since the 6th century. whadda maroon. LULZ

              • Todd

                The subject isn’t Muslims, but the brutal and parasitical state of Israel. I don’t really care about Palestinians, Egyptians or any of Israels neighbors, but you people in Israel and your traitorous cousins in the U.S. make the situation my problem. It’s obvious where the evil originates and it is with Zionists at home and abroad. Yes, you people are EVIL!

            • Mike

              An answer to your last question Ill be standing firm until the end buddy. Thanks for asking.

      • zionism is not religion

        Anti-zionism is not anti-semitism. You know better. But a 6-yr old sounds good.

        • Mike

          It makes no difference. What Todd is trying to say is he hates Israel and anyone who supports them. However you “name” it doesnt make a difference. The point is that Todd is among a growing number of people being brainwashed by Admadinajad and Palestenians.

        • HateDumbLibs&PaulTurds

          YOUR anti-zionism is anti Jew and anti American and anti West.

          Zionism is to Israel as “Americanism” is to America.

          Go back and make love with the jihadis who will cut your freaking useless head off once they are done with you, you jackwadian piece of left wing fecal matter.

          • Todd

            Apparently you don’t understand what “steer clear of foreign entanglements” means. That was advice from our very first president, so don’t try and equate support for Israel with Americanism. Israel is nothing like America. Israel is a complete liability. Nothing good comes from the place.

  • Anti-Entanglement Constitutionalist

    Another Israel-firster dual citizen? LEEETTT HIIIIIIM BUUUURRRRRRRRRNNN

  • Walt C

    How about we just tell Egypt to let our guy go or the foreign aid stops.

    Problem solved.

    • notta jew

      How about we stop giving foreign aid period. Much bigger problem solved. Not that the former is such in the first place. Only in the eyes of a juuuuuuuuw.

      • caligula

        hey idiot. who do you think is going to stop iran from getting a nuke? the cowardly turd in the white house? if you dont understand the strategic relationship we have with Israel, you deserve your stupidity.

  • raul

    if he’s american why does he have an israeli passport as well? let israel worry about it, he’s their boy

    • RuRu

      Boy, You’re all heart. You Jerk!!

    • Jason

      @raul…….maybe reading with comprehension isnt one of your strong suits, it states he has dual-citizenship…………repeat after me: We’re all individuals …(We’re all individuals)…..sigh.

      • raul

        READ BETWEEN THE LINES, I DON’T THINK WE SHOULD CARE BECAUSE HE’S GOT DUAL CITIZENSHIP LET ISRAEL WORRY ABOUT ONE OF ITS EX-SOLDIERS NOT US, do you need everything spelled out for you or do you take everything you read literal?

        • caligula

          aw…look who’s yelling. Comoe esta, raul? Que es la problema, pobrecita. LOLOLOL

    • Bella Kat

      Yes now we can worry about American Bowe Bergdahl kidnapped in Afghanistan by radical isalm..

      been over 2 years now…

    • Alex

      YES! One of the many “dual citizens” we are plagued with. Deport them all.

  • suzylous


    • Bella Kat

      These are the lies they tell so their kids will strap on bombs and kill innocents

      • albert

        is it a bigger lie than, “a magic man in the sky gave us this land so we should be able to force off anyone who has lived here for generations because they’re not one of “us”” ? Sounds like a crazy story to tell to compel the youth into military service

        • JJGH

          So Jews and Christians and even Muslims should move to an evolutionary BELIEF of Panspermia that little green UFO aliens put us here as slime balls or Neaderthals to evolve further when most mutations are bad?

    • caligula

      what is a “palestinian”?

      • Mike

        Now thats just ignorant caligula. What is your reasoning?

  • tymtrvlr

    Out of the 1027 palestinians the Israelis released 1028 want to go back to the cushy living and 3 straight meals. It will just be a matter of time before the whole bunch winds up in Isreal again, for one reason or another.

  • Oferiko

    His (& your) religious has NOTHING to do with it!!!

    • Alex

      It seems to. Why do you think he is a “dual citizen”?

  • Oferiko

    He should go back to NY… and should take with him the prisoners Israeli release for him.
    Then, he should put in American jail for some time… so he learns not to make the same stupid mistake again.

  • zionism is not religion

    Of course he’s a spy. And what about non-negociation with terrorists.
    Next thing you know, Mossad zombies will blackmail Pollard out of the US.
    There’s no worse spy since any of FDR’s staffers.

  • KickOutTheKenyan2012

    These trades are happening NOW because something is brewing in Israel…

    Israel wants their Soldier and the American out of harms way, and then they will take care of this long, festering problem…

    • Volosolo

      I agree completely. Israel has been conducting various sorts of military drills involving army reservists, civilian emergency procedures, strikes against power plants, et al, and to my thinking it is all for the purpose of preparing for an imminent war, whether or not initiated by Israel or its enemies. I, too, see the recovery of Shalit as one more preparatory act to clear the boards, leave their enemies with no future bargaining chips. I fear, folks, the s— is about to hit the fan.

      • Bob Nuckolls

        These stories are chocked full of teaching moments. Where to begin:

        The United States is but one of a tiny number of nations established on the rule of written law. Law based on the notion that the honorable human’s person and property are inviolate. If the individual is not attacking the liberty of another individual, then NOBODY has a charter under the civilized society to do anything to that individual.

        When the US citizen ventures outside the borders of this nation, the rules change. In many cases the rules are in a constant state of flux depending on the mood of who ever happens to be in charge at the moment (sorta like the present White House). This means that risk to the individual’s well-being rises exponentially.

        Given our supposed respect for the sovereignty of other nations (civilized or not), we are pre-disposed not to bring force to bear upon another nation when the effects of their uncivilized behaviors rain down on one of our own. Often, it’s not even possible to bring useful force. I recall a bit on 60 Minutes over 30 years ago talking about students who simply ‘disappeared’ while on holiday in some less than civilized nation.

        Lesson: We’re presently in a struggle to prevent our own nation from becoming as despotic as most other nations on the planet. Step outside at your own risk. Best you stay home and work to preserve what liberty we have left if not restore the nation to its original charter under our Declaration of Independence and Constitution.

        Consider prisoners being held by nations striving for civilized behavior. Whether it’s Israeli jails or Guantanamo Bay, the idea is that you take individuals captured in the act of dishonorable behavior off the streets. Then comes cadres of citizens with little or no concept of what it takes to protect the liberty of fellow citizens. In fact, many of these dissidents are themselves enemies of individual and communal liberty.

        They argue that every detained individual is entitled to thousands of dollars of legal benefit at taxpayer expense (much of which goes into the pockets of the dissidents themselves). Okay, it’s already costing the taxpayers great sums of money to hold these individuals harmless to our society . . . how about this? Take no prisoners.

        When the civilized force encounters an uncivilized force, how about a Judge Dread approach to threat mitigation? Wipe them out. For the cost of a few bullets and/or explosives, we save our nation great expense of housing the enemy and sifting their ranks for the occasional but dubious innocents.

        What thoughts might we discover in the minds of the Israelis as they trade these demonstrated liabilities to liberty and security for one of their own citizens.

        Lesson: The barbarians should be careful about what they ask . . . the answer could very well be more distasteful than the status quo.

        Lesson: There are limits to the patience and tolerance of honorable citizens to dishonorable behaviors. Both between nations and within nations. There ultimately comes a time when major upheavals will take place . . . with outcomes less than certain.

        • suzylous

          @bob n YOU SEEM TO HAVE FORGOTEN HE WAS guily of really sping for israel! he was clearly inducted as a mossad agent with a u.s passport!

        • suzylous

          i watched a show comdey show with clowns say the same thing, it was the republican debate! the world is no doubt laughing at all those fool’s and their low life support base! rick perrys trying to impersonate reagan(but the fool is impersonating the 2’nd term reagan, the alzyheimr 1)

          • caligula

            i can tell you’re going to be really disappointed when one of those clowns is ruling you in 2012. LULZ

            i love you crybaby libs. so entertaining.

  • Jim M

    Simple solution. Return Grapel now or no foreign aid to Egypt. Paying ransom on encourages these people. We can’t make them stop doing this stuff. We can make them wish they hadn’t.

    • Charles H

      That plan effectively changes the bribe (foreign aid in exchange for not attacking Israel) into ransom (foreign aid in exchange for hostage).

    • suzylous

      Dual citizenship traitor’s like him are trash! if he served as a paratrooper fpr isreal lethim stay in israel! how much % of israeli’s have dual-citizenship(just to increase israeli jewish number’s o paper)!

    • suzylous

      no aide no u.s ship’s thru the suez canal!

  • ztgibbons

    There is a much simpler solution that no one seems to be considering. Either Egypt releases him or they can find a new ally willing to provide them with 1.6 billion in annual aid.

    As for the numbers, it quite clearly demonstrates the weight each country gives to the lives of its citizens. The people of Egypt and Palestine should pause for a moment and reflect on the quite obvious conclusion, their government doesn’t value them individually.

    • sinanju

      Are you kidding me?!? You seem to be forgetting who is in charge at 1600 Penn Ave.

    • sk

      And we should cut off ALL aid to Israel until they respect the 1967 borders and stop building illegal settlements. They already stole more land than was initially given to them by the UN…the Palestinians are down to 22% of what was their land for thousands of years. Yet, we keep saying, please stop building settlements, and Israel tells us to f-off.

      • Mike

        Israel has been kind enough to agree to allow the Palestenians any land at all. There was no such name as Palestine thousands of years ago. The Israelites treat the Palestenian citizenz with the utmost respect and view them as one of their own. If you look at what the Palestenian children are being taught you would realize that they dont “just want their land back” they want total anialation of the entire country of Israel. Why are you so blinded? Open your eyes and see. Here in my state the jews are contributing to our community and helping to make the world a better place. Its like their light in a dark world. Think for yourself look for a jewish center around you and do your own research. I’m willing to bet you have one near you and they have impacted your community for the better.

      • RCS

        sk, you need to learn a little history and do some research instead of being brainwashed by anti-Semitic professors. Israel did not steal the land. They won it in battle when they were attacked from all sides. They did not return it after the war in order to maintain a buffer to protect themselves from being attacked again. The countries around Israel want the land back so they can again attack Israel. They lost the land due to their stupid desire to destroy Israel.

        • Todd

          They were at war because they were stealing land! When large numbers of Jews moved from all over the world to Israel to live uninvited in Palestine, that was an act of war on the natives. They even used terrorism in the process. Israelis are not the victims!

      • ssk

        thousands of years? the palestinians were not there that long! you obvioulsy don’t know the history of israel! you can’t argue over facts that you don’t know about!

  • NohBdy

    And we tell white people to feel bad about that whole 3/5ths thing. Nice to see the trading value for Muslims compared to the civilized peoples.

    It sort of makes me jealous of Israeli military policy. I don’t know whether the US would do this. Maybe suddenly parrot “We don’t negotiate with terrorists” once more however, the Muslim Brotherhood is entirely OK. Their election slogan: “Islam(ic law) is the solution.”

  • Hound Dog

    This guy is a traitor to the nation. While our country is at war on so many fronts, he volunteers with a foreign nation’s military? He was born and raised here and the guy goes to a foreign nation to enlist instead of in his home country that is at war? I can’t stand this crap. Rahm Emmanuel, Obama’s guy, did the same exact thing. What a bunch of traitors. To hell with this guy. He gets no sympathy here … him and the rest of them who’d rather live here and take advantage of our system while holding allegiance to another country. Egypt can keep this traitor.

    • Andrew Wags

      How is he a traitor. If your a dual citizen then youhold the right to enlist in either. And americans wonder why we get called ignorant and stupid. Think before you write something.

  • dsfsdfsdf

    testing testing

  • David from San Diego

    If an American citizen joins the ARMED FORCES of another country, hasn’t he renounced his U.S. citizenship? What about if the country whose ARMED FORCES he joins conducts ESPIONAGE against the United States? This guy is no more an American than was Al Awlaki.

    • alex ferdman

      sure, so why you have Jewish name?

  • chester field

    Wait a second we give over 2 billion a year to these towel head and they are holding one of our own

    • alex ferdman

      yeah, but King Hussein dont read these comments.

  • Brian

    Egypt is starting to turn into another Iran.

  • tom

    If I were Israel I would offer this years, and next years 1st Round Draft Picks, and next years 3rd and 4th Round picks for the American.

    • Charles H

      Don’t forget the terrorist to be named later.

  • Civil Rights Much?

    Since the majority of you are making comments based on assumptions that are just NOT true, I want to put forward some real facts. Whether or not he has dual citizenship, he is a US citizen who is a law student at Emory. He happened to be doing research and volunteer work helping refugee’s in Egypt, not as a spy. While he is being selfless, he has been captured. And now some of you are making comments that are not only greatly naive and ignorant, but just plain cruel.

    • Pete Dooley

      I did some business (in the US) with a guy who was a captain in the Israeli army during one of the shooting wars. He used to chuckle all the time at the concepts the Americans had about Israel. He told me he used to vacation in Egypt and that he had many friends there. I guess many of you don’t realize that at least five of the upper echelon members of the Bush administration (policy makers) and his director of homeland security have US/Israeli dual citizenship. Mozeltov.

      • suzylous

        the 5 dual citizenship traitors in bush adminastration explains why the u.s lied it’s way into iarq,against the u.s publics will! dual citizenship IS unconstitutional!

        • Saddened

          What happened to being a world citizen? Do you really think that these fake lines we paint on maps mean anything? We are all humans living in one world.

        • caligula

          LOL…you idiots are still on Bush, when ole Obambi has started 2 wars in Libya and Uganda. such transparent hypocrites. so entertaining with your tripe.

  • Adam Smith

    Why is it that the Egyptians think an Egyptian is worth 1/80 of an American? If I were Egyptian, I would insist on a 1:1 swap out of pride. As an American, I’d give 1.5:1 to be generous.

    • JJGH

      I say swap 100 Egyptians for the Sphinx and then have some type of trucker show with Ice Road Truckers moving the stones through Egypt trying not to get hit with terror attacks along the desert roads..it will be a hit…maybe even have the Egyptians work as slaves until the Sphinx is buiilt…Payback time

  • Erik

    It’s a fact that the US spy agencies were behind the uprising in Egypt. Do you really think they would admit this guy is a spy? Of course not. Of course this guy is a spy.

    • Mike

      How would you know this? You talk of this as a fact when you have no evidence. These Egyptians and Palestenians are being unreasonable and unfair. 1,000 Palestinians for 1 Israeli?? Thats insane! There going to use those people to be terrorists for either Americans or Israelies. I have proof just look at the way the Palestinian president speaks about Israel. Also they are so connected to Iran who is supplying them with weapons that are used on the Israelies and look at how Admadinajad talks about America and Israel.

  • surgio

    I shall donate 3 Egyptians to this good cause

  • goblin

    Enough with this dual-citizenship garbage.

    • me321

      Totally agree! Either you are a citizen of one country or another!

    • bob

      dual-citizenship is illegal in the United State!

      • JohnJr

        Yes, it was. But thanks to the courts no longer is. The entire concept of “dual citizenship” goes against everything this country used to stand for. No more.

      • akw

        Not only is it perfectly legal to have dual citizenship, it’s legal to serve in another military as part of the obligations of citizenship in another country.as long as that country isn’t engaged in hostilities against us.

        • susylous


  • Buck O'Fama

    So are you a skinhead or a moose-limb? Shaddpap Jew baiter, the kid can go anywhere he wants.

    • suzylous

      the kid can be locked away by another nations goverment for spying for ISRAEL aswell! i hope the IMPRISON him for YEARS!

  • Hargoosh

    Just WHAT was he doing in Egypt at the time of all the chaos then??? No one in their right mind would go vacationing in that crisis…So, WHAT was this JEW doing in Egypt. Dual Citizens with Israel are always Israeli’s first.. American second.

    • Buck O'Fama

      What are all these stinking Moose-limbs doing here Ahkmed..or iz it Heinz? Da, I thought zo. You’re a tool, back in your tool box.

    • suzylous

      the same thing the 3 israeli spy hikers the went to iran for a stroll in the middel of the iraq war! they are all agents of israel, with allegence to ISRAEL NOT THE U.S!


    Spoken like a typical LIB!

  • jaiman

    You two are mornons …suck my left nut!

  • DanTe

    Well what did you expect when you go help muslimes? Stupid idiot deserves to rot.

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