Residents Miffed Over Mystery Ice Rink Going Up In Stuyvesant Town

They Wonder: Where Did It Come From? Who's Behind It? Why Weren't We Told?

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — A new ice rink is getting a chilling reception for some residents of Stuyvesant Town.

Residents on Manhattan’s East Side say they’re in a deep freeze over an ice rink that’s going up in the middle their complex. One renter of 25 years is worried the peace and quiet he’s enjoyed may soon be a thing of the past.

“Concerned about the noise it might make when it’s, you know, active in a few weeks. You wake up one morning and you’ve got an ice skating rink there,” Richard Axel said.

Residents said the rink took them by surprise. It started going up about three weeks ago and they’re upset because they claim they were never notified.

CBS 2’s Ann Mercogliano tried to get answers from the management company on the phone and in person, but was unsuccessful.

Residents said the space used to be a place where kids played in an open field. Residents said they don’t know if the rink will just be for them or if there will be a charge.

“We were never asked our opinion,” resident Erwan Saunier said. “Ice skating is not like the most popular sport, I believe. You need the ice; you need skates; you need to know how to skate.”

However, not everyone though is opposed to the idea of a space to skate.

“I would love an ice rink. I think it would be great,” Henry Ahearn said. “There’s a lot of things here, especially parks, that shut down in the summertime and not a lot of things to do in the winter. I think it would be great.”

The tenants’ association said even though the rink is almost complete, they have no intention to cease fighting the project.

Other projects have come under scrutiny at Stuyvesant Town, including the allowing of food trucks and the operation of a farmers market on the property.

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  1. FedUp Tenant says:

    Anyone who doesn’t live here should refrain from commenting since you really don’t have a clue what you are talking about. I have lived here for over 3 decades and I know whereof I speak.

    For many, many decades this was a lovely, quiet, peaceful oasis in the middle of the hustle and bustle of NYC. It was one of the major reasons that people wanted to live here. And then a bunch of uber-greedy, real estate types got a hold of the property starting in 2006 and they – first, Tishman Speyer and now, CW Capitol and Rose Associates – have done everything legal and illegal they can to wring every penny they can out of the property and out of the tenants living here. IT HAS BEEN A NEVER ENDING NIGHTMARE FOR TENANTS.

    And now they are foisting a skating rink on us. We don’t need a skating rink; what we need is for Management to CLEAN OUR BUILDINGS; REPLACE OUR CRUMMY WASHING MACHINES; GET RID OF THE RATS AND MICE; PREVENT DOG OWNERS FROM LETTING THEIR DOGS PEE AND POOP WHEREVER THEY WANT ON THE PROPERTY; ENSURE THAT TENANTS ADHERE TO THE TERMS OF THEIR LEASES BY ENFORCING THE RULES ABOUT COVERING THEIR FLOORS AND NOT MAKING NOISE AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT AND DAY ETC. ETC. Those of just some of the things that renters are entitled to by law and that they pay for but aren’t getting.

    The skating rink is just another of CW Capitol’s and Rose Associates’ many MARKETING SCHEMES to get more unsuspecting people to live here. But, mind you, they don’t want any of these tenants to stay very long. They want to churn tenants because they make more money when apartments turns over. And, in the process, they have destroyed our lovely, stable, affordable, secure community.

    This is a RESIDENTIAL property not CARNIVAL CRUISE LINES. We don’t need every “amenity” – food trucks, Greenmarkets, noisy concerts and movies, tables hawking Verizon and Zipcar, etc, etc, etc. known to man on site. Apparently, the Dept. of City Planning agrees because they have stated that the Greenmarket and food trucks here are ILLEGAL. Despite Management’s receiving notice of this fact a few days ago, they are thumbing their noses at tenants and at the laws of NYC and the food trucks are still here. Can’t wait to see if the Greenmarket sets up here this Sunday in VIOLATION of the ruling by The Department of City Planning. Bet they will. Why? Because “owner” CW Capitol and management company, Rose Associates think that the rules and laws don’t apply to them. If that Greenmarket sets up here tenants are going to flood 311 with complaint calls. And we’re not going to stop until all of the ongoing ILLEGAL activities are stopped.

    If you want to read more about what has been going on here for the last 5 years you can go to:

    http://www.facebook.com/stuytownluxliving

    http://stuytownreport.blogspot.com/

    http://www.stuytownliving.com/

    Anyone who doesn’t live here should refrain from commenting since you really don’t have a clue what you are talking about. I have lived here for over 3 decades and I know whereof I speak.
    For many, many decades this was a lovely, quiet, peaceful oasis in the middle of the hustle and bustle of NYC. It was one of the major reasons that people wanted to live here. And then a bunch of uber-greedy, real estate types got a hold of the property starting in 2006 and they – first, Tishman Speyer and now, CW Capitol and Rose Associates – have done everything legal and illegal they can to wring every penny they can out of the property and out of the tenants living here. IT HAS BEEN A NEVER ENDING NIGHTMARE FOR TENANTS.
    And now they are foisting a skating rink on us. We don’t need a skating rink; what we need is for Management to CLEAN OUR BUILDINGS; REPLACE OUR CRUMMY WASHING MACHINES; GET RID OF THE RATS AND MICE; PREVENT DOG OWNERS FROM LETTING THEIR DOGS PEE AND POOP WHEREVER THEY WANT ON THE PROPERTY; ENSURE THAT TENANTS ADHERE TO THE TERMS OF THEIR LEASES BY ENFORCING THE RULES ABOUT COVERING THEIR FLOORS AND NOT MAKING NOISE AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT AND DAY ETC. ETC. Those of just some of the things that renters are entitled to by law and are paying for but aren’t getting.
    The skating rink is just another of CW Capitol’s and Rose Associates’ many MARKETING SCHEMES to get more unsuspecting people to live here. But, mind you, they don’t want any of these tenants to stay very long. They want to churn tenants because they make more money when apartments turns over. So, as a result, they have destroyed our lovely, stable, affordable, secure community.
    This is a RESIDENTIAL property not CARNIVAL CRUISE LINES. We don’t need every “amenity” – food trucks, Greenmarkets, noisy concerts and movies, tables hawking Verizon and Zipcar, etc, etc, etc. known to man on site. Apparently, the Dept. of City Planning agrees because they have stated that the Greenmarket and food trucks here are ILLEGAL. Despite Management’s receiving notice of this fact a few days ago, they are thumbing their noses at tenants and at the laws of NYC and the food trucks are still here. Can’t wait to see if the Greenmarket sets up here this Sunday in VIOLATION of the ruling by The Department of City Planning. Bet they will. Why? Because “owner” CW Capitol and management company, Rose Associates think that the rules and laws don’t apply to them. If that Greenmarket sets up here tenants are going to flood 311 with complaint calls. And we’re not going to stop until all of the ongoing ILLEGAL activities are stopped.
    If you want to read more about what has been going on here for the last 5 years you can go to:
    http://www.facebook.com/stuytownluxliving
    http://stuytownreport.blogspot.com/
    http://www.stuytownliving.com/

  2. FedUp Tenant says:

    I would like to know why this comment hasn’t been approved yet when other comments that were written after mine have been already? If you ask for comments you have to expect that some of them will be hard hitting, no?

    1. Stuy Tenant says:

      Repost. Maybe it will get through the second time just so long as there are no profanities in it.

      1. FedUp Tenant says:

        Stuy Tenant, there were no profanities in it. I am still wondering and would like to know why they wouldn’t post it. And how ridiculous that they posted my comment asking why it wasn’t approved!

    2. Joy says:

      I agree with everything you’ve said. I have lived here for over 40 years and have watched this place spiral further and further downhill to a hostile place to live but I have to say that having Zipcar for only $20/yr membership fee through Stuy Town is a very good deal. The cars are not in the way (there are only 2 cars that I know of parked on the property on the Peter Cooper Loop, the rest are in various garages), and are available to people who don’t own their own cars 24/7 365 days of the year. When you have to make a short drive or run an errand it is extremely useful especially when regular car rental places rent on a 24 hour minimum basis and close at regular business hours. You can rent a Zipcar for as little as 1 hour any time of the day or night at a moment’s notice. If I have to go pick someone up for example–it’s extremely convenient, and at night, cheaper than a cab. I love having Zipcar albeit I think it was just another money making deal Stuy Town made wtih Zipcar and not purely for our best interest but it’s a fair trade-off and is the most benign of our Stuy Town’s actions. The storage units outside the laundry room are not only hideous but smells of dead rodents and you can see rat poison and traps of all kinds which children can have access to. I see dead mice around all the time, and tons of flies around the recycling area ever since they allowed people to throw garbage there instead of the garbage chute on each floor because some tenants want large garbage cans and the bags don’t fit down the regular garbage disposing chutes. I think Stuy Town should change that and not allow people to dump smelly food garbage in the laundry area. Some tenants are so lazy they don’t even bother to open the laundry area room door, they just leave it in front of the door for someone else to put it inside for them.

  3. FedUp Tenant says:

    Anyone who doesn’t live here should refrain from commenting since you really don’t have a clue what you are talking about. I have lived here for over 3 decades and I know whereof I speak.

    For many, many decades this was a lovely, quiet, peaceful oasis in the middle of the hustle and bustle of NYC. It was one of the major reasons that people wanted to live here. And then a bunch of uber-greedy, real estate types got a hold of the property starting in 2006 and they – first, Tishman Speyer and now, CW Capitol and Rose Associates – have done everything legal and illegal they can to wring every penny they can out of the property and out of the tenants living here. IT HAS BEEN A NEVER ENDING NIGHTMARE FOR TENANTS.

    And now they are foisting a skating rink on us. We don’t need a skating rink; what we need is for Management to CLEAN OUR BUILDINGS; REPLACE OUR CRUMMY WASHING MACHINES; GET RID OF THE RATS AND MICE; PREVENT DOG OWNERS FROM LETTING THEIR DOGS PEE AND POOP WHEREVER THEY WANT ON THE PROPERTY; ENSURE THAT TENANTS ADHERE TO THE TERMS OF THEIR LEASES BY ENFORCING THE RULES ABOUT COVERING THEIR FLOORS AND NOT MAKING NOISE AT ALL HOURS OF THE NIGHT AND DAY ETC. ETC. Those of just some of the things that renters are entitled to by law and are paying for but aren’t getting.

    The skating rink is just another of CW Capitol’s and Rose Associates’ many MARKETING SCHEMES to get more unsuspecting people to live here. But, mind you, they don’t want any of these tenants to stay very long. They want to churn tenants because they make more money when apartments turns over. So, as a result, they have destroyed our lovely, stable, affordable, secure community.

    This is a RESIDENTIAL property not CARNIVAL CRUISE LINES. We don’t need every “amenity” – food trucks, Greenmarkets, noisy concerts and movies, tables hawking Verizon and Zipcar, etc, etc, etc. known to man on site. Apparently, the Dept. of City Planning agrees because they have stated that the Greenmarket and food trucks here are ILLEGAL. Despite Management’s receiving notice of this fact a few days ago, they are thumbing their noses at tenants and at the laws of NYC and the food trucks are still here. Can’t wait to see if the Greenmarket sets up here this Sunday in VIOLATION of the ruling by The Department of City Planning. Bet they will. Why? Because “owner” CW Capitol and management company, Rose Associates think that the rules and laws don’t apply to them. If that Greenmarket sets up here tenants are going to flood 311 with complaint calls. And we’re not going to stop until all of the ongoing ILLEGAL activities are stopped.

    If you want to read more about what has been going on here for the last 5 years you can go to:

    http://www.facebook.com/stuytownluxliving

    http://stuytownreport.blogspot.com/

    http://www.stuytownliving.com/

  4. tax payer from the island says:

    GET OVER IT…… IT COULD BE MUCH WORSE… THEY COULD THROW YOUR ASS OUT AND BUILD AN INDOOOR SWIMMING POOL

    1. Crazy Eddie says:

      Hey Tax Payer from the island. Let me know where you live so that can I buy the property next to you and put up a 7-11. Open 24/7 of couse. DB, upper case dimwit.

    2. Esther Marlowe says:

      I live in StuyTown. I’d like to see Playground 7 made into an outdoor swimming pool with a wheelchair accesible deck for sitting.

    3. Joy says:

      I for one would LOVE an indoor swimming pool but there’s too many people here to give everyone a fair chance to use it.

  5. Toni Martini says:

    Simple manners would dictate that if you’re going to build a commercial venture involving LOUD 24-hour chilling equipment, venue lighting, amplified nightly accompanying music, and a café a mere 50 feet from people’s windows, the VERY LEAST you should do would be to inform them of the disruption to their lives. Just sayin’…

    BTW @KYBelly, a film production company is required by NYC law to inform & accommodate and/or compensate residents for such intrusions on their lives. And, NO, it’s not being built for a movie shoot. Also, you may think it’s a glorified housing project but since real people actually live there, your “so what?” reeks of elitism & self-absorption to say nothing of your superficial small-mindedness. Why bother commenting at all if it’s a big “so what?” to you? Silence is golden and is probably a better color for you than just plain old vulgar.

    Finally, despite what’s in this well reported article, the free all-season playground the rink would replace, was NOT a hard surface at all! This pay-for-play very public venue (see MGMT’s ad for the rink in today’s Post) required the tearing up of installed Astroturf & its padding on a playground used 7 days a week for mixed sports & team play for young children. No comparable replacement facility has been provided as NYC law also calls for. Can you say diminution of services? If it looks like a duck…

  6. Lo Rhent says:

    This is no mystery. This is bozo screwjob. This place about to go bust for second time in two year. Leaseholder become general creditor.

  7. Crazy Eddie says:

    Full disclosure-I am a life time resident of Stuytown. This corporatized commercialization (and they will be corporate tie ins, paid admittance, skate rentals, a café, etc.-see the “The Pond”) of a private playground that was open for free to all residents and their guests in a private residential area that is most probably not zoned, repeat, not zoned for commercial activity of this type, is typical example of the Bloomberg type of world that we now live in.

    1. Jeff Sayin says:

      The Pond in Bryant Park is free if you have your own skates. Know your facts before making accusations.

      Too many crotchety folks in the East Village land Stuy Town who fight any change and expect complete silence in there neighborhood – I say move to the country.

      Whether it be a new bar or restaurant or god forbid …an ice rink.

      Also I note a bit of snobbery in long time Stuy Town residents – an attitude that they live in a private community and the public should not be allowed in.

      II say take your wining to some gated community in Florida.

      1. Crazy Eddie says:

        “I say move to the country.” “II say take your wining to some gated community in Florida.” Yes, the often repeated mantra of the rube who was spawned in a strip mall and does not have a clue about truly being cool in Manhattan. Manhattan as a “luxury” brand, a true follower of the Bloomberg way. This is a zoning issue plus a current manager who does not give a damn about the impact of such a major commercial enterprise on the community. The entrance to the Pond is free but the “extras” are not, that is where the $ is made and there are corporate tie-ins as well, that is why I was referring to it, sorry my bad, I should have been more specific . ST is a private community with public access but the playgrounds are for residents only and their guests. Are you against zoning laws ?.You know, in hindsight, I guess Jackie Kennedy should have not “whined” about the destruction of Grand Central Station. The Oval, where ANYONE can go and enjoy some tranquility from the urban stress, is a Manhattan gem and should be respected and protected. Full disclosure Jeff, where do you live?

  8. KY Belly says:

    Perhaps it is being built for a movie shoot or to attract more out of towners (pardon the pun ) to this glorified public housing project ,in any event ,so what?

  9. Non-Skating Tenant says:

    Hey Stuyvesant Town bond holders, you looking? This is the handy work of Rose and CW Capital. What a pair!

  10. Stuy Tenant says:

    Only the densest of the dense don’t realize that the very purpose of Stuyvesant Town’s design which makes (or made pre-vultures) an oasis in one of the mostly densely populated areas of the planet is the very reason people choose to live here. Duh!

  11. radico lazio says:

    peace and quiet huh? try moving out of one of the densest populated areas on the planet lol

  12. Blu Geens says:

    You could translate Richard Axel also to Richard Wasp or Rod. But it wouldn’t sound right in NYC to post a complain.Indeed Wasps do not complain.

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