Bloomberg: If I Had It My Way I’d Dump Half Of NYC’s Teachers

Mayor Stuns Many At MIT Speech, Says He'd Greatly Enlarge Class Size, Too

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — It’s a jaw-dropping prescription for fixing city schools.

“Professor” Michael Bloomberg said Thursday he would accomplish more with less by slashing the teaching staff in half — and that’s just the beginning, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.

He looked like he was from another planet when he dressed as a hippie for a political show, but the mayor’s blueprint for fixing city schools have some asking “what was he smoking?”

WCBS 880’s Rich Lamb With Reaction From NYC Public Advocate Bill De Blasio

“Education is very much, I’ve always thought, just like the real estate business. Real estate business, there are three things that matter: location, location, location is the old joke,” Bloomberg said. “Well in education, it is: quality of teacher, quality of teacher, quality of teacher. And I would, if I had the ability – which nobody does really – to just design a system and say, ‘ex cathedra, this is what we’re going to do,’ you would cut the number of teachers in half, but you would double the compensation of them and you would weed out all the bad ones and just have good teachers. And double the class size with a better teacher is a good deal for the students.”

That’s right. The mayor told people at a Massachusetts Institute of Technology conference it would be far better to run city schools with way fewer people. And, by the way, on the billionaire’s perfect planet that would mean cramming more kids into each classroom.

Andrea Spencer is dean of the School of Education at Pace University.

“When I heard the statement I was really shocked,” Spencer said. “There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that half of the teachers in any system are ineffective. What there is evidence to support is the fact that larger classes really place detriments in the way of learning.”

But “Professor” Bloomberg is sticking to his views.

“The best thing you can do is put the best teacher you can possibly find and afford in front of the classroom and if you have to have fewer because there’s only a certain number of dollars to go around, I’m in favor of that,” Bloomberg said.

United Federation of Teachers President Michael Mulgrew said he put the mayor’s latest views on teaching in the same category of his decision to appoint a former magazine editor with no teaching experience to be schools chancellor.

“So the mayor thinks this is a good idea, in high schools to have class size in high schools of 70 kids. Clearly the mayor has never taught,” said United Federation of Teachers President Michael Mulgrew.

“And probably the mayor’s having another Cathie Black moment.”

The mayor also said he’s given teachers a 105 percent raise since he took office. Mulgrew said maybe the mayor should have stopped in at a math class while he was at MIT.

In lamenting the quality of teachers, the mayor claimed they come from the bottom 20 percent of their class and not the best schools.

Do you agree with the mayor? Please offer your thoughts in the comments section below.

  • Nico

    I’d LOVE to drag Bloomberg to MY classroom, strap him to a chair Clockwork Orange style and let my 150 students have their way with him. There might already be a room in Hell waiting for him in that design, waiting for him.


    NONE of you right-wing anti-teacher morons who support the Mayor’s idiot views would last 5 MINUTES in a classroom. So shut the Hell up.

  • P. Molloy

    Bloomberg it is really time to get you out go do what you know best, business. How dare you suggest that 50 – 70 kids in a classroom with an excellent teacher would learn just as much as 25 kids in an “average” teachers classroom. I would like to see you control 70 4th graders in a classroom designed to hold 25 tops. You are a clown with your head up your butt! Why don’t you go back to wherever you were when the Christmas 2010 snowstorm hit and no one could find you all of us New Yorkers would be much better off!

  • Babylonian

    Bloomberg claimed from the beginning that using his magic Business techniques that he would totally fix and reform all the problems in the NYC public schools system.

    Bloomberg is now in his 3rd term (after he used his money and influence to have the term limits law changed to allow him a 3rd term instead of the old maximum of 2 terms) and he has failed to magically fix the schools system as he said he would

    This trash talking is his frustration and implicit admission of his failure

  • Ann

    Riki you are an ignorant jackass. I believe you need to get a proper education yourself. Teachers obviously did not have the guts to teach you.

  • Jimmy D'Locks

    Yeah, and you with them. Pack up all my cares and woes, there she goes, bye, bye, bloomberg.

  • Craig B.

    The mayor’s solution is to fire everone he deems to be incompetent, yet the man who ran for mayor saying judge me by how well I fix the school system has failed miserably. Every one of his reforms has been a dismal failure. He hires incompetetent cronies and has bought into a reform philosophy that is worthless and counterproductive to improving the schools. The real agenda is to just cut the budget, and he has tipped his hand again with this latest statement. The best reform measure he could do right now is to fire himself.

  • atomsofthought

    Wow. Talk about losing touch with reality. Parents of all kinds have enough trouble disciplining their own couple of children. Who on earth would be capable of managing a class of 70 primary or secondary students? K-12 isn’t college. Students don’t just sit there politely as the instructor drones on about the Civil War. It should be enough to point out that a classroom of 70 students would in many cases be outright dangerous.

    Others have made the obvious points about how hard it would be for a teacher to follow federal laws that REQUIRE differentiated instruction for students who have been determined to need it, much less attend to the needs of all of the other students. Even if you doubt the validity of differentiating instruction (studies back you up), the law requires it for many students, communities demand it for most students, and so districts have little choice but to provide it.

    I’d like to add that if the teaching profession has trouble now recruiting and retaining teachers (half of beginning teachers quit within five years nationally), it become be even harder to recruit talented people to teach 70 students per class and upwards of 250 per day, with the doubling of time demands that would come with such an arrangement (planning, contacting parents, grading assignments, sponsoring before- and after-school clubs and activities, and the list goes on). Course offerings would also shrink drastically. The advanced courses would probably be the first to go since the majority of students don’t take them.

    Bad idea. Obviously.

  • Lawrence O.

    Wake up folks.

    Don’t be sucked by the con man.

    Bloombucks is determinded to destroy public education so that he and his pals can raked in billions more.

    They could care squat about good public education. They only use the rhectoric of caring. Double the class size? Hahahaha! Can you imagine? 50 KIndergardeners? Or 50 Junior High School Students? Holy Smokes!

    He’d have you waiting for Supermen and Superwomen forever with one excuse after the next after the next.

    BTW — The Teach For America propagandists having an effect:

    “Perhaps if Bloomberg allowed recent grads holding degrees in Education to get hired and forced older teachers who have no clue on how to educate using new and improved learning methods, students would have a better chance at actually attaining a higher education instead of dropping out.”

    These young potential teachers have been brainwashed! They are already following the marketing plan of “we are better than the old timers” right until the day they flee the system in two years at light speed frustrated.

  • Alan

    Mister Mayor. We know that you started at the bottom and became a Multi Billionaire. However, you are expected men and women in goverment, education and all other positions to work very hard at limited wages and poor cost of living increases that you yourself have created.
    You can handle your Bloomberg international this way if you want, but not New York City.

  • Allison Maria Doyle

    You know what’s interesting? The fact that Bloomberg and most people commenting on this article have absolutely no idea how to not only teach a child, but also how a child learns. Anybody who thinks a child learns by plopping them in a seat and lecturing at them for 6 hours needs their head checked. I have three different levels of learners in my classroom, all of whom are categorized by their own specific needs. Every worksheet, every test, and every book is differentiated to fit the academic needs of that child. Do you think that’s easy for me? Do you think making 27 different copies of a test is EASY? Of course not, but I do it because I care enough about the well-being and success of each and every child in my classroom that I’m willing to get to school two hours early to lock myself in the copy room. And I only have 27 kids! Sure, cut the teachers. Increase my class size to 100. Do you think I’ll be able to pay attention to their specific needs anywhere near as well as I am now? Think again.

    There are two problems here. First, the education system is a business. And guess what? It’s failing the students. Everyone pretends they care about the kids, but surely if you read an academic article, researched studies, observed a classroom, taught a class, or even spoke to a student, you’d surely find otherwise. Secondly, people who have absolutely no experience in the classroom are making the fundamental decisions that are absolutely imperative to the success of the children. Michael Bloomberg, get your ass out of office already. You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

    • Frank T

      Do you think I’ll be able to pay attention to their specific needs anywhere near as well as I am now?

      Possibly. However, the system should provide you with a class of 100 with VERY similar learning styles.

      • scubus

        I don’t care how similar your class is, students require differentiation and further, if you want to use student centered teaching methods which research shows to be highly effective, there is no way one teacher with a class of 100 student (or anything over 30 actually) will accomplish it.

        Not to mention there is no such thing as similar learning styles and abilities across the board. A group of students with similar abilities on on topic may be divergent on the next.

      • Allison Maria Doyle

        No, Frank. The answer is no. I cannot.

        Saying that the system should provide teachers with students that learning similarly would never work, either. While it sounds like a good idea in theory, it’s simply impossible. Students are more unique than anybody wants to admit. There are far too many characteristics that factor into student’s learning abilities to ever be able to divide them into groups based on just that. You admitted in your comment below that different curriculum should due taught to different children based on their abilities. You cannot teach different children different curriculum. You can, however, modify the curriculum to fit the needs of the children. That’s what we’re all trying to do right now. Increasing class sizes will only hinder our efforts.

      • Moonbud

        The whole learning styles idea is a nuisance. There is no scientific basis for it, and no evidence that implementing the learning style-based approach is effective. Can you learn algebra kinesthetically? Emphatically, no. The “research” in that area is flawed at best, if not entirely bogus. Instead of splitting hair to find differences, why don’t we capitalize on similarities? As heretical as it may sound in today’s educational climate, all humans learn in amazingly similar ways. What the education system today wants is shortcuts and quick fixes so that everyone is “successful” (whatever that may mean) with the least amount of effort – and that may just not be humanly possible.

        • Allison Maria Doyle

          Okay, using your theory, explain to me, and the other teachers here, how I can deliver my lesson plans based on students similarities? Does every one of my 5th graders know how to spell the word “auction”? No. Does every one of my 5th graders know how to complete double-digit multiplication problems? No. If 15 of them can handle long division, then I teach 15 of them long-division. But what about the other 12? I just leave them behind? Survival of the fittest? By focusing on their similarities, you’re still focusing on their differences, but instead of assisting them, you’re ignoring them.

          • Allison Maria Doyle

            Also, I don’t know a single teacher who can put in minimum effort and still get results. I don’t know anyone who is looking for any sort of “short-cut,” either. Instead, by differentiating our curriculums, we’re doing the opposite. Furthermore, maybe everyone should educate themselves on the heirarchal ladder in the education system. We take our commands from the people above us–in state and office–and 90% of them have never been in the classroom since they were matriculating grade-school themselves. If you want someone to blame, blame the people who are making decisions that haven’t a clue how to teach.

        • Nico

          You don’t know what you’re talking about and obviously have never studied education- Like Bloomberg. Multiple Intelligence based curricula are widely accepted and have been proven repeatedly to be effective. Stop getting your info from the NY Post, or stay out of the conversation.

          It’s corporate-minded idiots who think children are inanimate objects who can be processed on an assembly-line-esque school and hammered into the same mold. NOT TO MENTION how detrimental that kind of teaching is to a democratic society- sure it worked great for Stalin’s Russia.

          • Chemistry Teacher

            Sorry. The MOST recent research shows no support for the multiple intelligences model… I talking about articles published in the last 8 weeks.

            • Nico

              Not the one’s I read. Opponents of multiple intelligence curricula just want an excuse to force all their students to mindlessly obey and fill in the one right answer on a bubble sheet at the expense of critical thinking and mindful learning. ALL students learn differently: gender, income, race, cultural background, economic background effects how students absorb and interpret information. Multiple intelligence is just the BEGINNING of how we need to rethink teaching. Unless you’re too lazy to care about your students.

              • Allison Maria Doyle

                Beautifully said. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn’t had any experience in the classroom, witnessing multiple intelligences first hand. This is particularly true for the younger students who need to develop the fundamental skills necessary to even fathom understanding a course such as chemistry, CT.

    • rick

      Allison Marie Doyle- excellent!!!!

    • Nico

      THANK YOU!!!!! I JUST started teaching full time and am getting my butt kicked on a regular basis by my 150 students who have varying levels of academic, social, familial and behavioral issues.

      In this anti-teacher atmosphere, why would anyone want to do this thankless, stressful job for crap pay, getting abused on all ends? Because there is NO FUTURE for this society without teachers!

      If you have NEVER been a teacher, or been trained as an educator, you have NO RIGHT to decide education policy or flippantly judge teachers because of some crap you saw on TV.

      Schools are run like factories, and high-stakes testing makes them worse. No wonder students rebel!

      PS- If I had MY way- I’d get rid of Bloomberg- arrogant 1% oligarch that he is.



    • Frankt

      I went to catholic school in the 60s and 70s. We always had between 50 and 60 students in the class. We learned; we did well. But back then, most typically had a support system, with one parent at home…with the parents directly involved with their children’s schooling. Today, there is less of that…both parents working with little time to help and in some cases disinterested.
      He exaggerates the point. He needs to. Do we need to rid ourselves of 50% of the teachers?…NO, but some have to go (maybe 10% – 20 %). They need a better environment in which to teach. Different curriculum should be taught to different children based on their abilities.
      We need dramatic changes…and that is his point.

      The System is failing the children.

      Some teachers are failing the children.

      The Unions are definitely failing the children!

      • FrankT

        …and some parents are failing their children

        • Hugh O

          The Union is not failing the children. The Union is fighting to keep the 50% of new teachers who manage to last 5 years or more in the system. Most teachers work long hours at home after their day is done. Without a Union it would only be 10 times worse. The union is the organization that brought 7,000 oversized classrooms to the light. Without the union’s counter-voice things would go unchecked and it would only be worse. I’m tired of union bashing. Where is all this supposed collaboration everyone wants to make the system better?

      • Moodbud

        I absolutely agree with you, FrankT. Your comment is an island of common sense in a sea of insanity. Thanks.

        • Lauren S

          your all just as stupid as him. Your lack of common sense is insane. Put 70 kids in a classroom built for 30, add a single teacher and how do you expect the teacher to answer every question, talk to every kid, and even speak to a kid who is having trouble. In this econemy you want to actually drop teachers? Tell me what’s wrong with you?

        • Nico

          If you’re both the product of overcrowded classrooms, that pretty well proves the point about how detrimental to real education that is. Blame the teachers and Unions? Blame poverty and underfunded, overcrowded public schools. But you both probably don’t really give a crap, just love to spout your right-wing views with no care about how many people’s lives would be destroyed if they were ever put into action.

  • Debbi Atkinson

    He’s insane: it is a well known fact, study for years, that class size has a great impact on learning; he just doesn’t care if the 99% gets educated. He probably views education for the masses as a very dangerous thing.

  • p8nt

    From the way Bloomy is looking at it, I can understand where he’s coming from. Look at the student/professor ratio in colleges. A professor can have 100 to 200 students, and if they are good, all the students do better. This also puts more responsibility to the student and well as to the parents. The school system is bloated with teachers who shouldn’t be teaching, yet they are there teaching your children. I mean, pretending to teach your children.
    Frankly, if your child doesn’t want to go to school, doesn’t want to learn, your much better off teaching them to say “Would you like fries with that?”

    • Yarp

      I hated those big stadium classes you were forced to take in freshman year. All you do is take notes and try not to fall asleep, and even though I did well in the classes, I couldn’t tell you what I learned from any of those classes. The bulk of my college learning was done in small, intimate classes where you could discuss about issues in a circle with your classmates. Who would pick stadium teaching over that? And a younger student definitely wouldn’t be able to pay attention in a sea of 100 students.

    • Jamie

      In college it is possible to have classes of 100 to 200 students because you are teaching adults. With children, you need discipline. Anyone who has taught knows that there are some kids who behave no matter what, and you might get really lucky and have a 100-child class who all behave. But you know what? It isn’t likely. How is one teacher supposed to handle 100 children from a disciplinary standpoint?

  • Mike C

    What do you call a medical student that graduates at the bottom of his class?


  • Steven Barnett

    The mayor is dead right. The teacher’s union protects bad teachers from getting fired, not the students rights and needs.

    • Moonbud

      Glad there are sensible people like you out there. Thanks, Steven!

    • Jamie

      The teacher’s union also protects good teachers from getting fired because not all of their students are brilliant, or because an administration wants to make changes that the previous teachers stand in the way of.

    • LB

      Glad you agree Steven Barnett. What would we do without your opinions? Why don’t we just fire everyone in every field? Maybe you too. What makes you immune? Did you graduate from MIT at the top of your class? Are you finding a cure for AIDS? Most teachers are hard working and dedicated. We spend our own money to purchase the top of the line things for our classrooms, work late, come in early…what are you out there doing? Finding propaganda on the internet? to post here? Great job.

    • Nico

      Before the teacher’s union, teachers got paid less than gas station attendants. If you want to go back to that world, expect worse teachers, not better ones. Unions are the only protection workers have, and TEACHING IS THE HARDEST JOB ON THE WORLD! That NONE of you right-wing pricks could survive doing for 5 minutes!

  • Melanie C

    What in the hell are you talking about? That is by far one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. Not only am I offended that you have bashed females under 35 by calling them “little girls” but you have failed to realize how grueling of a task it is to put yourself through college only to be faced with one of the biggest hiring freezes in the DOE history.

    Perhaps if Bloomberg allowed recent grads holding degrees in Education to get hired and forced older teachers who have no clue on how to educate using new and improved learning methods, students would have a better chance at actually attaining a higher education instead of dropping out.

    • Lorraine Cogliando

      From a teacher who has never had a class or a teaching job, where do you come off suggesting that older teachers are inefficient? Are you an idiot yourself or is it sour grapes that you don’t have a job? How dare you suggest that older teachers don’t know new and improved teaching methods! Where is your data showing that what you have learned is better? Are you suggesting that drop out rate is related to old teaching styles? Wake up little girl! That’s like saying that after 25 years experience at a craft, you are no longer capable! I have more degrees and courses and training AND experience in education than years you are an adult! HOW DARE YOU suggest that your recent training is more beneficial than what I have been practicing with successful results for 25 years! It’s the reason why I make double of what you will make when you enter! I’m worth twice as much! Experience is the best teacher! You will probably be one of the teachers I will have to go in and “Bail out” until you get the hang of it!

      • Lyndac1027

        I have been teaching for 33 years and parents beg my principal to have their kids in my class. IMy experience is a positive. I can see a problem developing before it escalates into something serious. I’ve had great success with “failing students” and with those students who have been deemed “gifted and talented”.I know methods not taught in a college class because I was taught by senior teachers. Look at it this way…if you’re diagnosed with a brain tumor where are you going to be treated and whom do you want treating you? The brand new doctor fresh out of med school at your local er or do you want that seasoned doctor iat Columbian Presbyterian? Stop bashing teachers. We are not the problem.

    • xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      hey baby, you need to relax…c’mere, you.

    • FC

      How dare you. I am currently a teacher and spend hours of my own time seeking out professional development opportunities and researching AND IMPLEMENTING new methods of teaching. So I should be fired so you can get into a classroom and quite possibly quit within two years when you find out , as I did, that everything you learned will be turned on it’s head by administrative decisions made by administrators who have very little experience in classroom education. Theory is fine, but experience is everything. I truly hope you find work soon. We need more teachers! However, do not dare suggest that your employment is more important or more valuable than mine.

    • Becky

      Any sweeping generalization claiming that all experienced educators are incompetent and only newly trained teachers are qualified is absurd. Teachers are individuals and need to be judged as such.Education theories and courses work extremely well when presented in a college class to fellow students. The true training for a teacher takes place once in a classroom in front of students and that usually is enhanced by their working with an experienced mentor.

      • FC

        Well said!

  • Arlene

    I think he needs his head examined. We only have to get rid of one person, HIM!
    Anyone who believes what he says also need to have their heads examined.

    • Moodbud

      As do those who suggest head-examination in this case.

      • Lauren S

        none of you are teachers. If you are how would you feel to get fired in this econemy. Im a student right now, and all my teachers have trouble shutting up the whole class of 30 kids. how will they shut up 70? I hate classes with too many kids. It’s terrible and i cant pay attention. Moodbud you do need your head examined. Your an idiot

  • Learn how to spell!


  • Really?

    Really? I’d like to turn your point around and blame it on the under 35 parents that have no job or means to raise their children. By the time I graduated college I had already been working for 8 years – at one time between 16 -22 I was working three jobs at once during vacations off of school. I will not have kids until I can afford to pay for them. That is the way it should be. Who cares if these women drink coffee and they are throughly trained in college and they have internships. If you really want to go there I think these insects that keep reproducing for financial handouts, without the means or ability to raise a child properly, should be fixed until they can. Most of the inner-city parents are the issue- who have no job or education and aren’t in a position to be bringing life into this world. They don’t care for their children or teach them morals- they are selfish and it is a vicious cycle that keeps repeating. The innocent kids who are the product of good parents have to sit in a class while the teacher is discipling the problem parent’s child. That is our issue. We should go back to corpral punishment… and stop giving handouts for popping out a baby. Problem solved- teachers would finally be allowed to teach and shape young minds rather than acting as ineffective prison wardens. (ineffective because they can’t touch or yell at disrespectful brats.)

    • drelo

      Really? hope you don’t have any kids!

      • FC

        “Well said” referred to Becky’s comment not the Mayor’s Statement!!!

  • Karen O

    The entire school system in New York and throughout the United States needs to be overhauled. Mayor Bloomberg comes at the DOE as a business man not as a humanitarian. When people become adults they find jobs that fit their skills…..yet in school each child is treated the same. They all have to learn the same things, the same way. It doesn’t work….why can’t we learn that? Why can’t the kids who show a talent for math early on be placed in a track that enhances that talent? And a child who doesn’t get the hang of math but is an avid reader be placed in a track where basic math skills are taught (like how to know how much change you get after paying for something at a store, or how much you’re going to pay for a $50 dress if it’s discounted 20%) and the arts are predominant. Then we wouldn’t have kids failing and acting out and making it impossible for teachers to handle them in a classroom of 30. Maybe the teachers would even like teaching the things they are most interested in to kids who are interested too. We are a diverse species. It makes us special. People like Mayor Bloomberg think there is one mold and everyone should fit into it. Let’s create a school system where children are prepared for success in a career that utilizes their natural talents or interests. Try looking at the Democratic Free school system. Success is built on high self esteem. Our school system focuses on a child’s weaknesses instead of his strengths. It’s not the teachers fault. Every teacher I’ve known and I know a lot of them are concerned about their students. They have things they want to teach to them and they are frustrated by a system that beats them down. Mayor Bloomberg should be ashamed of himself.

    • Mel

      I Totally Agree with you

  • Eva

    I have really had it with this jerk. He needs to stop pretending he is good at anything besides fattening his own pockets. Schools are as bad as ever, they are just covered in different names. Principals are forced to act like tyrants in schools, teachers are miserable, and students are not learning a thing. Walk through any public school that isn’t located in the richest sections of Manhattan and you will see students are way below grade level. This is what New Yorkers deserve but putting this jerk back in office.

  • sean molloy

    You are an embarrassment Bloomberg. Take your billions and go live on an island with your parasitic investement class friends. You are a disgrace!


    Bloomberg should get rid of the incompetent Administrators at Tweed and throughout the entire Dept of Education. If these incompetent fools were bounced from their high paying low-performing jobs then the NYC Teachers would be able to teach in ways that make sense. This, from a guy who hired a Magazine reject to run the school system. What an idiot.

    • profcath

      When everyone is done having a snit fit, one can see that there is some validity to his underlying themes. He is asserting that half the teachers are ‘bad.’ Tenuring public school teachers is probably the worst thing one can do. When one has tenure, the inclination is to rest on ones laurels. Not care as much. You need motivated teachers that work hard because they love teaching kids AND they love having a job. Look at private school models. No tenure. Look at recent grads of teaching programs: dying to work and filled to the brim with enthusiasm. Look at someone who has been there 5, 10, 15 years. Same grind, resentment towards the system, and materials in the can. And yes, I am a teacher. And yes, I’ve put kids through this education system. I get what he is saying. He just said it poorly.

      • scubus

        1. Teachers don’t have tenure, they have due process protection which, given the political nature of education, is needed.

        2. There is absolutely no evidence to support the assertion that a teacher with “tenure” rest on their laurels, care less or lack motivation., None. It is a made up assertion and I challenge anyone to find evidence it is true.

        3. The valid data and evidence suggests that private schools do no better, and often worse, then their peers in the public system teaching similar populations of students.

        4. Since you are willing to sacrifice good teachers to get at this glut of bad ones, surely you can identify them by name and say why they are bad teachers? I hope so, because nobody else is able to point them out.

        5. If this is how you arrive at conclusions and communicate them and you really are a teacher I suggest you may be a poor teacher.


        Ok here are a couple of real examples of the incompetence of the high level, low performing Administrators at Tweed and DOE department CEOs. They turned down $800,000 in direct financial academic scholarships for students over a 2 year period. Student-athletes cannot receive college scholarships becuase MANY schools do not have their coursess registered with the NCAA, which means even if an athlete is an “A” student and is one of the best athletes in NYC he/she cannot receive a Division I college scholarship… why you ask, because no one at the DOE understands the process. The DOE turns down many opporunities that bring funds and resources directly to the schools, if the funding and/or resources goes to the Administrative offices. is it about the kids or the high-level, high-pay, low-performing Administrators? You now the answer don’t you. This is where the incompetence begins. Would you follow a fool? Well, that’s what NYC Teachers are asked to do….follow fools.

        • Vasilca

          You hit the hammer exactly on the head of the nail. Each day some NYC teacher is following a fool. As the Good book says, “if the blind leads the blind, they will both fall into the ditch.” I understand that the Mayor is frustrated about the conditions of our schools, but he needs to get rid of ineffective administrators. The success of our children depends on the teachers not on the Principals and other administrators.


          The DOE turns down many opporunities that bring funds and resources directly to the schools, if the funding and/or resources do not go to the Administrative offices…


            I do agree though, that 50% of the teachers in NYC are incompetent.

            • Lorraine Cogliando

              Frank, if u knew anything about teaching today, you wouldn’t make the comments.I too went to Catholic school and your numbers are inflated, let’s face it! No class had 50 or 60; more like 40-50 at the most. The system at the top is failing the children. Their only hope is the school and the teachers. Many of the parents and families are failing their students! God forbid anyone put blame where it goes! Unions, have nothing to do with failing students! I’ve been a successful teacher for 25 yrs and still going. Attended and taught Catholic school and am teaching at PS for 20 yrs, outsiders don’t have a clue!and to…How do you know 50% of the teachers must go. Where do you get your info?

            • scubus

              Based upon what, exactly?

            • Olivia NYC

              That’s strange, because I worked in teaching for 6 years, and I think I only worked with two colleagues who were truly incompetent. They probably could have been developed into reasonably good teachers with the proper management support. I received tenure, and it didn’t change one bit of my practice as a teacher. It just made me more likely to fight harder for my students with IEPs who were legally entitled to services. As an untenured teacher, I felt too vulnerable to challenge or question. Ultimately, I exhausted myself, and now I do not teach. Just saying…

            • sick of the bs

              when an educated person makes a comment like that the only response one can have is prove it!!

              • profcath

                Well then, put a spint on it. Demonstrate that 50% are capable. Throwing stats around is useless. Spend some time IN the system, and then offer your take.

                • Bloomburg sucks

                  ok you volenteer to quit. Because apparently your a horrible teacher if you support this

        • profcath

          I didn’t realize the problem was one-dimensional. Perhaps one could step back and concur that the challenges lie on many levels; administration, taxpayers, parents, teachers.

  • Anyone but Bloomberg

    In the history of this city, there’s never been a mayor who’s more out of touch with the realities of living and working here. How a billionaire from Boston ever got elected here will remain a mystery to me for as long as I live. He put parks in the middle of the street, excessively raised traffic ticket fines, property taxes, and fees for everything NY’ers have to pay the city for. He refused to get involved in mediating the MTA’s labor disputes. When MTA workers went on strike, he suggested that NY’ers ride bicycles to work. He overthrew term limits, after the people voted to maintain them. He said the city needed him to be mayor again because he would be best able to handle the financial crisis, and then during his re-election campaign, tried to make a case that he had already gotten the city out of this crisis. He cut out parking spaces and increased traffic by reducing car lanes and adding bike lanes on most every street. During his re-election campaign, he told NY’ers that he was sending out property tax rebate checks. After he got re-elected, he tried to stop those checks from being sent. I could go on, but there’s too much to list. This is undeniably one of the worst mayors in the history of NY.



    • midi-man

      I Agree. He is killing us.

    • MARIA S


    • Alan

      Why stop now. Keep on going.

  • Dr. Sheridan Martin

    I have been with the Dept of Education for over 21 years. I am now serving as an Assistant Principal of Social Studies. I have a BA in English from Hollins University (which has produced several modern authors) and a Master and PhD in History from Emory University, one of the top southern universities. I was granted a fellowship for my studies. My doctorate is in Medieval History, with minors in Renaissance, Reformation and 17th Century European History. In addition to my 21 years at the DOE, I taught as an adjunct professor at Emory, Spelman College (alma mater of Coretta Scott King) and Seton Hall University. I then worked as an assistant editor of college textbooks. So much for “poor schools” and “bottom of the class.” The mayor is listening to that famous college dropout, who thinks he knows everything about education — Bill Gates. Unfortunately, our nation’s education czar, Arne Duncan, listens as well.

    • Mike

      Your PhD is in Medieval History? So what? You being an academic, only means you have formally acquired more tools. But true intelligence is knowing how to use the tools you have to perform a task in the best way possible. Bill Gates is much more successful than you at this. You are in a very niche profession, which in my opinion is a great thing. If everyone got their degree in such irrelevant jabber, this country would be sitting on on its hands pontificating about academic dribble instead of getting stuff done.
      There is a huge disconnect between academics and others who study and hypothesize about social issues and those who are out in the world every day dealing with them. Get a Police Officer or Firefighter in a room with a sociologist any day, and they will agree on very little.

      • Jamie

        Excuse me, Mike – what evidence do you have that the person above is much less successful at knowing how to use the tools they have than Bill Gates? I assume it’s because Bill Gates is incredibly rich, and because Windows is everywhere, which is great if those are your goal in life. In what way does that apply to knowledge about teaching, being good at your chosen profession if it *isn’t* software design, or enriching your community? This person may or may not be rich, I don’t know – but they may be a fantastic historian, and they may be passing that information on to their students extraordinarily well. Neither you nor I know.

        Also, the comment, “If everyone got their degree in such irrelevant jabber…” was rude and ignorant. It may be irrelevant jabber to you, but no one has any hope of fully understanding the present if they don’t understand the past. History is not pointless. Neither, for that matter, is firefighting or police work. They are ALL important. Suggesting that someone who went far in school, apparently did extremely well, and attempts to pass that knowledge on to others is nothing more than a source of “irrelevant jabber” is just as bad as suggesting that firefighters are nothing more than a drain on public revenue.

        • Mike

          [what evidence do you have that the person above is much less successful at knowing how to use the tools they have than Bill Gates? I assume it’s because Bill Gates is incredibly rich, and because Windows is everywhere, which is great if those are your goal in life.]

          Yes, money and his creations are an indicator. Additionally, he does not have the benefit of a PhD and therefore metaphorically has a smaller toolbox.

          [In what way does that apply to knowledge about teaching, being good at your chosen profession if it *isn’t* software design, or enriching your community?]

          What I am saying is that, though I don’t know Bill Gates, on face value alone between him and Dr. S. I’d value his opinion just as much as any professional educator. Just because you have credentials, does not make your opinion more valid in my opinion, success does, and Mr. Gates has proven that he can be successful. The point I was addressing was { The mayor is listening to that famous college dropout, who thinks he knows everything about education — Bill Gates.}

          [Also, the comment, “If everyone got their degree in such irrelevant jabber…” was rude and ignorant. It may be irrelevant jabber to you, but no one has any hope of fully understanding the present if they don’t understand the past. History is not pointless]

          Perhaps it was rude, but not ignorant. I am not a scholar of History, I do however understand the value of histories lessons, but such a specific niche component of history likely provides some insight and value, but not as much as real world 21st century experience provides. So irrelevant jabber may have been an overstatement, but I just find that that type of degree adds to ones own personal enrichment, but does little to contribute to society on the whole

  • FJRodriguez

    I hate it when the whole teacher thing comes up people are always quick to criticize and focus on those teachers who they deem ‘bad’ or not deserving of the jobs they have. Some of us, including you Mayor Bloomberg, need to take a step back and first realize what teachers have to deal with w/ on a daily basis. Teachers get tremendous flack because of the job perks they get, but did you ever stop to think why someone becomes a teacher? Let me tell you that it certainly isn’t the money that attracts an individual to this career. I mean call me crazy but some people actually teach because they have a passion for it and enjoy it even more when their students succeed. I’m a teacher who’s proud of the choice that I made to become one. I have good days and I certainly have trying ones but again I think that you Mayor Bloomberg should spend some time in a classroom for a couple of days with 25+ students, see what really goes on, and then see if it’s all the teachers fault. Maybe then will you re-think your idea of “dumping half the NYC teachers” and sticking students in classroom with far too many students. Like someone said in the video, you clearly have NEVER taught and haven’t stepped inside of a real classroom on a regular day.

    • MARIA S

      WELL SAID!

  • HilluryClintin

    Mike Bloomberg 2012!

    • Bloomburg sucks

      In the history of this city, there’s never been a mayor who’s more out of touch with the realities of living and working here. How a billionaire from Boston ever got elected here will remain a mystery to me for as long as I live. He put parks in the middle of the street, excessively raised traffic ticket fines, property taxes, and fees for everything NY’ers have to pay the city for. He refused to get involved in mediating the MTA’s labor disputes. When MTA workers went on strike, he suggested that NY’ers ride bicycles to work. He overthrew term limits, after the people voted to maintain them. He said the city needed him to be mayor again because he would be best able to handle the financial crisis, and then during his re-election campaign, tried to make a case that he had already gotten the city out of this crisis. He cut out parking spaces and increased traffic by reducing car lanes and adding bike lanes on most every street. During his re-election campaign, he told NY’ers that he was sending out property tax rebate checks. After he got re-elected, he tried to stop those checks from being sent. I could go on, but there’s too much to list. This is undeniably one of the worst mayors in the history of NY.” to quote what someone already said. You just are probably too stupid to read it aren’t you?

  • Really?

    hmmm thats pretty funny on his part. He backs charter schools and the structure of charter schools. I guess he doesn’t know that charter schools have around the average of 15-20 children per class room (max probably 25), with 3 teacher in a class room in some instances. Our NYC public school teachers in some cases deal with up to 40 children in a class room. (usually around 30 – 35 though), with a single teacher in a room. I love his double standards towards education when there might be a financial profit in it for himself.

  • Mike

    Try to find out how schools education works in the Finland — The most respectful and paying job is a Teacher. That is all.

    • Don Juan

      You are right Mike. Unfortunately, too many Americans have very naive and underdevloped ideas about education. They rely on Fox News for the source of their wisdom on the subject.

  • USA Patriot Worker !

    Mayor Bloomberg is 70% correct, on this View, for the USA-National-Level.
    Mayor Bloomberg is 60% correct on this View, in the NY State & City Level.
    Mayor Bloomberg is 100% correct on this View, in the racist-states, like those of Arizona, Alabama, Florida, etc., (where the few dishonest & bribed, USA-State-Governors, are being corrupted by the Chinese Intelligence & Chambers of Commerce, to increase the Chinese-Business-Economics-Growth-Win over the USA, through the Negative-Immigration-Economics-Education-Educators, secretly, being run under the Chinese-Ambition to destroy the USA-Production-Capacity, by the increase of the eccentric Deportation Laws, like those in Arizona/Alabama, on the USA-Economical, productive, hard-working, cheap, low-cost, USA-workers, who have no USA-Immigration-Status).

    The China Produces(while USA consumes). The China produces 90%, of what the USA consumes. The Job is increasing in China(and, the USA is missing the Job & Economical-Growth, in the USA, for the USA-Citizens).

    It needs now, “To change the USA-President, to change the present-2011-2012’s USA-Immigration-Deportation-Policy of Homicide & Selfish Opportunist & Dishonest misleading Politician Obama, to change the few USA-State-Education-System/Educationists, to change the few corrupted USA-Govt.-Lawmakers-Governors-Mayors”.

    This Dishonest & Double-Faced cunning political-mischief Obama, is destroying Economical & Large USA-Production-Capacity, by the Deportation of the 1million+ cheap-economical-workers of the USA, (just to give a Leapfrog to his secret client, Chinese Chambers of Commerce, who is pouring tons of Money, in Obama’s Presidential Campaign Fund).

    The Dishonest & Liar Obama is Greedy & Ambitious for the USA-Presidential-Power(to give the liverages & allowances, to the few USA-Rival-Countries’ System, who gives Obama Support & Money, to destroy the USA-Domestic-Production-Economical-Volume, through the High Deportations of the Cheap & Competitive USA-Economical, low-cost, productive & effective workers, to shut down the USA-Homeland-Production-Capacity).

    The Obama’s Toxic & Harmful, (questionable), Deportation-Policy, in the USA-Production-Areas, (by using the excuses of the Criminal-Removals, from the USA) , is “Killing the USA, the Jobs in the USA, the Economical-Strength of the USA”, (to give Leapfrog to those in China).

    To fight against “The Destruction of the USA, (at the hands of the Evil & Selfish, dishonest Obama)”, the “USA needs to change the USA-Education-System, first, to educate the USA, with the right, logical, Humane-Education-Policy”.

    Thanks, regards!

    • Common Sense here

      Thank you USPatriotWorker for being the perfect example of what happens when America fails it’s students by providing them with poor education.

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  • diane

    I’d really like to bring my class of 30, along with another class of 30, third graders into Bloomberg’s office for 7 hours, so that he can show us how dynamic and effective he can be with a doubled class size, all by himself. I’ll even give him my lessons that I’m still up planning right now, at 11:00.

  • jessiej

    I think he’s lost touch with reality. This guy’s comments are getting worse and worse, each day. He obviously has no clue as to what takes place inside a classroom today. Out of touch with the behaviors and attitudes of so many of the children in these classrooms. Years ago, when he went to school, when I went to school, there were over 40 kids in a class, but children sat in rows, not sections, children obeyed the rules, respected one another and respected the teacher. Children also went home for lunch and they all returned after lunch. Children knew after school they were to do their homework before they were allowed to go out to play or watch television. He thinks half the teachers are bad, what about half the people he has working at the DOE? Half the people who are the parents of these ill prepared students? He absolutely has no contact with the real world. Let’s not forget his pick for Chancellor. He has done nothing but destroy the school system, a school system that years ago was one of the best in the Country. He should not be running the system. We should go back to a Board of Education and one that is not a puppet of the Mayor’s.

  • J

    This is an outrage! How does ONE person (rich, white, and male at that) have such a tremendous amount of power over what happens in NYC schools? The scariest thing about this is that whether he means it or he is just using it as a political ploy, what he says goes as far as NYC schools, students, and communities are concerned!

    Enough is enough! We must take back our city and the first step is ousting its supreme leader. Mayoral control in NYC schools has only meant more money for the 1% and less and less opportunities for the children of the 99%.

  • jessica Campanelli

    I am absolutely floored. If Mayor Bloomberg had even an ounce of understanding as to what city teachers deal with day to day he would literally have to eat, swallow and then throw his words back up. What an amazing idiot. My blood is boiling. One day in my classroom, Bloomberg. One day. You will feel and look like the idiot you are.

  • Mo Lam

    Bloomberg is right. I was in a local middle school and then went to a specialize HS and has been in the top of US’s HS math students. My 8th grade math teacher cannot even get an equation of a line right. Worst of all, I pointed out the obvious mistake by giving an counter example and she still cannot believe that she is wrong. I can do that type of questions properly when I was in 4th grade.

    You should just cut all those crappy teachers that forms way over 50% of the teachers in NYC. Increase class size and increase teacher’s salary by 100$ so that you can attract good teachers. Bad teachers are worse than no teachers.

    If you are a teacher and you are confident that you are doing fine, then you most likely will not be cut. There is no need to worry about it.

    • drelo

      What about the dozen other teachers who helped you shape your educational future…the Mayor and others seem to forget that without good teachers they would not be where they are today. What did you do about this teacher that was so bad?

    • graduate

      About “…and then went to a specialize HS…”:

      The adjective is spelled “specialized,” not “specialize.”

      About “…and has been in…”:

      You got the conjugation of the verb “to have” wrong. You should have typed “and have been in” instead of “and has been in” since you’re talking about something you have been in.

      About: “…My 8th grade math teacher cannot even get an equation of a line right…

      “…Worst of all, I pointed out the obvious mistake by giving an counter example and she still cannot believe that she is wrong…”:

      Did you speak to her recently and confirmed that she *still* cannot even get an equation of a line right *these days*? If not, and if you were only describing what happened in the past when you were in 8th grade and she was still your teacher, then you should have used the past tense instead of the present tense. You should have typed “couldn’t even get” instead of “cannot even get” and “still could not” instead of “still cannot,” in those sentences.

      About “I can do that type of questions properly when I was in 4th grade.”:

      You’re not in 4th grade anymore, you already made it to a specialized high school. You should have used the past tense and typed “I could do that type” or “I did that type” instead of “I can do that type” in that sentence.

      Also, “type of” always goes with the singular form of a noun. You should have typed “type of question” instead of “type of questions” in that sentence.

      About “…an counter example…”:

      Meanwhile, “an” is the indefinite article used before nouns that begin with vowels. You should have typed “a counter example” instead of “an counter example” in that sentence.

      About “…teachers that forms way…”:

      You got the conjugation of the verb “to form” wrong. The verb is “form” when a singular noun does the forming and “forms” when a plural noun does the forming. You should have typed “teachers that form” instead of “teachers that forms” in that sentence.

      About “…and increase teacher’s salary by 100$ so that you can attract good teachers…”:

      The dollar sign goes before the numerals when one specifies a number of dollars. You should have typed “$100” instead of “100$” in that sentence.

      When the plural form of a noun ends in an s such as “teachers” the possessive case of that plural noun has an apostrophe after, not before, the s. You should have typed “teachers'” instead of “teacher’s” in that sentence.

      If you’re still in your specialized high school, then perhaps it needs to put you in an English class with a smaller class size, so that your English teacher will have time to read all of his or her student’s writing for the class carefully and then teach you how to stop making so many mistakes when you type in the lingua franca of the United States.

      • Camille

        LOL … this person’s bad grammar is the direct result of poor teaching AT HOME and at school. Granted, I had some really bad teachers in NYC, but the majority were invested in my education and encouraged me to do well. Hence, the reason why I taught for 10 years and now a middle school principal. I give a damn – something that HRH Bloomberg does not. Very sad …

  • Catherine

    I too am a New York City public school teacher. I currently have 32 students in my class, 10 of whom have special needs. Ironically enough, as I logged on to my computer this evening I caught a glimpse of this article. What I was actually on my way to do was write an email to a parent whose child needs serious emotional intervention. So, as far as “having it easy” is concerned, I have to disagree since I worked until 5:15 tonight, and am still thinking about work at 9:45. Another interesting tidbit people should know: the average “career life expectancy” of a new teacher in NYC public schools is 3 years. Most burn out or switch careers from lack of support from administration. In my opinion, if the mayor wants “good” teachers, he should do something to build up the people who want to be in this career instead of making us all out to be lazy gold diggers who only got into this profession for summers off.

    • Richard

      Bloomberg WANTS teachers to leave within three years. That’s why he made the contract with Teach For America. These TFA slime leave within 3 years, not staying long enough to be vested in the pension, and the DOE gets to keep their pension contributions.

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  • Laura Risi Hofmann

    Bloombeg has behaved like a madman all along. If he runs for any other office, DON’T VOTE FOR HIM.

    • Bloomburg sucks

      He completely ruined our city, He changed how long you could possibly stay in office just so he could be able to longer. He’s a millionaire for who knows what reason? He probably hasn’t even been in a classroom for years. His new public schools that he backed up so much are failing. Anyone who votes for him is a complete nut job. They must be as stupid as he is.

  • Chris

    I am a teacher in an NYC public school. I am also a Columbia University Teachers College graduate with a dual masters.

    Please Mr. Bloomberg, come and talk to me about your “fact” of teachers being in the bottom 20% of their class and coming from crap schools. I wonder where you get such facts anyway…

    • Martha Kowalczyk

      I am a retired teacher. I graduated with honors., not the lowest 20 percent of my graduating class!!! Ashland College (now University) All of the teachers I worked with were very intelligent. Our school earned an Excellent rating from the Ohio State tests.

    • Rachel

      Why do you. . . overuse ellipses. . . and leave out question marks?

      Rikki, please never become a teacher. Racists make terrible teachers.

    • Rachel

      In fact, your whole comment is ironically rife (if I can use a big word like rife) with punctuation errors. Where did you go to school?

    • drelo

      It is called “NoChild Left Behind”…ask the Mayor about it…it leaves our hands tied. Also, what kind of comment is “teach black kids to read, write, and speak English”…very racist of you to say that all of these kids do not speak the language…ebonics does not distinguish one group of kids…SMH

    • jessica campanelli

      This is clearly a joke because no educated person would leave such idiocy and include grammatical errors that are simply juvenile. Oh wait…do you understand this…or do you…just understand…text…as you…understand…basic…mechanics? Math is capitalized, dude. And sentences start with a capital, genius. And when listing, you have to use what is called a comma. Go back to school asshole.

  • Jerry

    Bloomy is right on target and should introduce internet education, it would be cheaper and more educating!

    • Richard

      On target? What have YOU been smoking?

      • Linda

        With a mind like that, you probably can’t even get a job cleaning BATHROOMS at TARGET!!! I always wondered what kind of idiot voted for Bloomberg. Guess you were one of them.

  • Vilmos

    How about doing this to the loads collecting 175k a year in Washington? Go to school and then allow Corp America to send jobs overseas ? Hmm…………

  • Mic Siegfried

    Obviously you had one of them, or you’d know that it should be “it’s”, as in it is, rather than “its”

  • Don

    The first thing the Mayor should learn is the correct pronounciation of “Ex Cathedra.” The second thing is that it has nothing to do with what he is taling about.

  • simpleton

    Obviously teachers commenting. There are so many inept and overpaid NYC teachers its disgusting. I think that was the POINT Mayor Bloomberg was trying to make.

    • Justina Emer-Soto

      Overpaid NYC teachers? Okay, I’ll ignore THAT. Yes, it’s true… unfortunately there are teachers out there who took the job for the wrong reasons. There are teachers who do not put in 100%. Not all teachers deserve such a rewarding job. Many people think teachers have it easy. Short hours and plenty of vacation time. Wrong. When real teachers come home, they start working on lesson plans. They pay for materials out of pocket. They spend the summer preparing for 10 months of projects, tests, trips, meetings, and lessons. They manage to keep two eyeballs on 25 kids at the same time. Cutting the amount of teachers in half means double the work for existing teachers which means less attention on the students. Not only is it completely stupid, it is dangerous.

    • L

      overpaid… what a joke. They are UNDERPAID. Like the mayor, you know nothing about what goes on in schools. i know many teachers who do nothing but work all day and NIGHT after they go home to make sure these kids have some success. And I know parents who do not care about their kids or what they learn/don’t learn. Many people have 9-5 jobs and they don’t think about work until they go back the next day. I can’t say that about any teacher I know.

    • paulo

      A friend of mine spent over 10,000 on a master’s degree in education and ended up getting less than a 100 dollar raise. Overpaid I think not…..

    • Andy

      When was the last time you stepped inside a school? When was the last time you taught inside a trailer with 32 kids? When was the last time you put out money for your supplies and someone else’s? When was the last time you had to see a child neglected or abused? When was the last time you brought your work (physical and emotional) home with you? WE ALL know the inept one’s should go but those of us that work hard take it personally especially when we do more with less. When was the last time you had to?

    • TI

      I guess you don’t have a clue on what it takes to instruct over 25 students according to their needs. It’s not like we go in and follow some teacher manual. Instead we are collecting data and analyzing it so that it can drive instruction on what each individual student needs. Do you think that takes 20 minutes to do? Do you think every child is the same learner? You just have no clue so seriously observe a teacher’s classroom and the 25-30 students and then I’m sure you wouldn’t think that anymore.

    • drelo

      There are overpaid people in every profession…what have you done to contribute to the well being and education of our youth Mr. Simpleton?

    • Linda

      Simpleton……..Perfect name for you! I agree with Mic Siegfried! You might want to review punctuation rules as well.

  • pete

    Bloomberg is neither intelligent, nor is he educated. He is just a lucky guy who hit the lottery. He was there at the right time and did the right moves. No research nor knowledge was necessary, just pure luck. Fifty years ago, without his luck and with his intelligence and education, he probably would be panhandling on the streets of Manhattan. These very rich people often forget that.

  • Bruce

    Billionaire Bloomberg has never attended nor probably ever visited a public school. Equally obvious, he never had a child in public school. What he proposes is so wacky that originally I thought it was a satire. He has lost all credibility with the public. He should spend the remainder of his term in one of his houses in Bermuda and let someone competent run the city until we can elect a real mayor.

  • Don Juan

    This is the garb@ge you get when you allow a politician to run the education system.

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