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Bloomberg: If I Had It My Way I’d Dump Half Of NYC’s Teachers

Mayor Stuns Many At MIT Speech, Says He'd Greatly Enlarge Class Size, Too

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Mayor Michael Bloomberg (credit: Slaven Vlasic/Getty Images)

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — It’s a jaw-dropping prescription for fixing city schools.

“Professor” Michael Bloomberg said Thursday he would accomplish more with less by slashing the teaching staff in half — and that’s just the beginning, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.

He looked like he was from another planet when he dressed as a hippie for a political show, but the mayor’s blueprint for fixing city schools have some asking “what was he smoking?”

WCBS 880′s Rich Lamb With Reaction From NYC Public Advocate Bill De Blasio


“Education is very much, I’ve always thought, just like the real estate business. Real estate business, there are three things that matter: location, location, location is the old joke,” Bloomberg said. “Well in education, it is: quality of teacher, quality of teacher, quality of teacher. And I would, if I had the ability - which nobody does really – to just design a system and say, ‘ex cathedra, this is what we’re going to do,’ you would cut the number of teachers in half, but you would double the compensation of them and you would weed out all the bad ones and just have good teachers. And double the class size with a better teacher is a good deal for the students.”

That’s right. The mayor told people at a Massachusetts Institute of Technology conference it would be far better to run city schools with way fewer people. And, by the way, on the billionaire’s perfect planet that would mean cramming more kids into each classroom.

Andrea Spencer is dean of the School of Education at Pace University.

“When I heard the statement I was really shocked,” Spencer said. “There is absolutely no evidence to suggest that half of the teachers in any system are ineffective. What there is evidence to support is the fact that larger classes really place detriments in the way of learning.”

But “Professor” Bloomberg is sticking to his views.

“The best thing you can do is put the best teacher you can possibly find and afford in front of the classroom and if you have to have fewer because there’s only a certain number of dollars to go around, I’m in favor of that,” Bloomberg said.

United Federation of Teachers President Michael Mulgrew said he put the mayor’s latest views on teaching in the same category of his decision to appoint a former magazine editor with no teaching experience to be schools chancellor.

“So the mayor thinks this is a good idea, in high schools to have class size in high schools of 70 kids. Clearly the mayor has never taught,” said United Federation of Teachers President Michael Mulgrew.

“And probably the mayor’s having another Cathie Black moment.”

The mayor also said he’s given teachers a 105 percent raise since he took office. Mulgrew said maybe the mayor should have stopped in at a math class while he was at MIT.

In lamenting the quality of teachers, the mayor claimed they come from the bottom 20 percent of their class and not the best schools.

Do you agree with the mayor? Please offer your thoughts in the comments section below.

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  • Nico

    I’d LOVE to drag Bloomberg to MY classroom, strap him to a chair Clockwork Orange style and let my 150 students have their way with him. There might already be a room in Hell waiting for him in that design, waiting for him.

  • A DAMN GOOD TEACHER

    NONE of you right-wing anti-teacher morons who support the Mayor’s idiot views would last 5 MINUTES in a classroom. So shut the Hell up.

  • P. Molloy

    Bloomberg it is really time to get you out go do what you know best, business. How dare you suggest that 50 – 70 kids in a classroom with an excellent teacher would learn just as much as 25 kids in an “average” teachers classroom. I would like to see you control 70 4th graders in a classroom designed to hold 25 tops. You are a clown with your head up your butt! Why don’t you go back to wherever you were when the Christmas 2010 snowstorm hit and no one could find you all of us New Yorkers would be much better off!

  • Babylonian

    Bloomberg claimed from the beginning that using his magic Business techniques that he would totally fix and reform all the problems in the NYC public schools system.

    Bloomberg is now in his 3rd term (after he used his money and influence to have the term limits law changed to allow him a 3rd term instead of the old maximum of 2 terms) and he has failed to magically fix the schools system as he said he would

    This trash talking is his frustration and implicit admission of his failure

  • Ann

    Riki you are an ignorant jackass. I believe you need to get a proper education yourself. Teachers obviously did not have the guts to teach you.

  • Jimmy D’Locks

    Yeah, and you with them. Pack up all my cares and woes, there she goes, bye, bye, bloomberg.

  • Craig B.

    The mayor’s solution is to fire everone he deems to be incompetent, yet the man who ran for mayor saying judge me by how well I fix the school system has failed miserably. Every one of his reforms has been a dismal failure. He hires incompetetent cronies and has bought into a reform philosophy that is worthless and counterproductive to improving the schools. The real agenda is to just cut the budget, and he has tipped his hand again with this latest statement. The best reform measure he could do right now is to fire himself.

  • http://atomsofthought.wordpress.com atomsofthought

    Wow. Talk about losing touch with reality. Parents of all kinds have enough trouble disciplining their own couple of children. Who on earth would be capable of managing a class of 70 primary or secondary students? K-12 isn’t college. Students don’t just sit there politely as the instructor drones on about the Civil War. It should be enough to point out that a classroom of 70 students would in many cases be outright dangerous.

    Others have made the obvious points about how hard it would be for a teacher to follow federal laws that REQUIRE differentiated instruction for students who have been determined to need it, much less attend to the needs of all of the other students. Even if you doubt the validity of differentiating instruction (studies back you up), the law requires it for many students, communities demand it for most students, and so districts have little choice but to provide it.

    I’d like to add that if the teaching profession has trouble now recruiting and retaining teachers (half of beginning teachers quit within five years nationally), it become be even harder to recruit talented people to teach 70 students per class and upwards of 250 per day, with the doubling of time demands that would come with such an arrangement (planning, contacting parents, grading assignments, sponsoring before- and after-school clubs and activities, and the list goes on). Course offerings would also shrink drastically. The advanced courses would probably be the first to go since the majority of students don’t take them.

    Bad idea. Obviously.

    http://atomsofthought.wordpress.com/2011/11/22/teachers-are-lazy-hard-working-stupid-brilliant-indifferent-caring-rich-poor-where-did-all-the-teachers-go/

  • Lawrence O.

    Wake up folks.

    Don’t be sucked by the con man.

    Bloombucks is determinded to destroy public education so that he and his pals can raked in billions more.

    They could care squat about good public education. They only use the rhectoric of caring. Double the class size? Hahahaha! Can you imagine? 50 KIndergardeners? Or 50 Junior High School Students? Holy Smokes!

    He’d have you waiting for Supermen and Superwomen forever with one excuse after the next after the next.

    BTW — The Teach For America propagandists having an effect:

    “Perhaps if Bloomberg allowed recent grads holding degrees in Education to get hired and forced older teachers who have no clue on how to educate using new and improved learning methods, students would have a better chance at actually attaining a higher education instead of dropping out.”

    These young potential teachers have been brainwashed! They are already following the marketing plan of “we are better than the old timers” right until the day they flee the system in two years at light speed frustrated.

  • Alan

    Mister Mayor. We know that you started at the bottom and became a Multi Billionaire. However, you are expected men and women in goverment, education and all other positions to work very hard at limited wages and poor cost of living increases that you yourself have created.
    You can handle your Bloomberg international this way if you want, but not New York City.

  • Allison Maria Doyle

    You know what’s interesting? The fact that Bloomberg and most people commenting on this article have absolutely no idea how to not only teach a child, but also how a child learns. Anybody who thinks a child learns by plopping them in a seat and lecturing at them for 6 hours needs their head checked. I have three different levels of learners in my classroom, all of whom are categorized by their own specific needs. Every worksheet, every test, and every book is differentiated to fit the academic needs of that child. Do you think that’s easy for me? Do you think making 27 different copies of a test is EASY? Of course not, but I do it because I care enough about the well-being and success of each and every child in my classroom that I’m willing to get to school two hours early to lock myself in the copy room. And I only have 27 kids! Sure, cut the teachers. Increase my class size to 100. Do you think I’ll be able to pay attention to their specific needs anywhere near as well as I am now? Think again.

    There are two problems here. First, the education system is a business. And guess what? It’s failing the students. Everyone pretends they care about the kids, but surely if you read an academic article, researched studies, observed a classroom, taught a class, or even spoke to a student, you’d surely find otherwise. Secondly, people who have absolutely no experience in the classroom are making the fundamental decisions that are absolutely imperative to the success of the children. Michael Bloomberg, get your ass out of office already. You haven’t a clue what you’re talking about.

    • Frank T

      Do you think I’ll be able to pay attention to their specific needs anywhere near as well as I am now?

      Possibly. However, the system should provide you with a class of 100 with VERY similar learning styles.

      • Allison Maria Doyle

        No, Frank. The answer is no. I cannot.

        Saying that the system should provide teachers with students that learning similarly would never work, either. While it sounds like a good idea in theory, it’s simply impossible. Students are more unique than anybody wants to admit. There are far too many characteristics that factor into student’s learning abilities to ever be able to divide them into groups based on just that. You admitted in your comment below that different curriculum should due taught to different children based on their abilities. You cannot teach different children different curriculum. You can, however, modify the curriculum to fit the needs of the children. That’s what we’re all trying to do right now. Increasing class sizes will only hinder our efforts.

      • Moonbud

        The whole learning styles idea is a nuisance. There is no scientific basis for it, and no evidence that implementing the learning style-based approach is effective. Can you learn algebra kinesthetically? Emphatically, no. The “research” in that area is flawed at best, if not entirely bogus. Instead of splitting hair to find differences, why don’t we capitalize on similarities? As heretical as it may sound in today’s educational climate, all humans learn in amazingly similar ways. What the education system today wants is shortcuts and quick fixes so that everyone is “successful” (whatever that may mean) with the least amount of effort – and that may just not be humanly possible.

        • Allison Maria Doyle

          Okay, using your theory, explain to me, and the other teachers here, how I can deliver my lesson plans based on students similarities? Does every one of my 5th graders know how to spell the word “auction”? No. Does every one of my 5th graders know how to complete double-digit multiplication problems? No. If 15 of them can handle long division, then I teach 15 of them long-division. But what about the other 12? I just leave them behind? Survival of the fittest? By focusing on their similarities, you’re still focusing on their differences, but instead of assisting them, you’re ignoring them.

          • Allison Maria Doyle

            Also, I don’t know a single teacher who can put in minimum effort and still get results. I don’t know anyone who is looking for any sort of “short-cut,” either. Instead, by differentiating our curriculums, we’re doing the opposite. Furthermore, maybe everyone should educate themselves on the heirarchal ladder in the education system. We take our commands from the people above us–in state and office–and 90% of them have never been in the classroom since they were matriculating grade-school themselves. If you want someone to blame, blame the people who are making decisions that haven’t a clue how to teach.

        • Nico

          You don’t know what you’re talking about and obviously have never studied education- Like Bloomberg. Multiple Intelligence based curricula are widely accepted and have been proven repeatedly to be effective. Stop getting your info from the NY Post, or stay out of the conversation.

          It’s corporate-minded idiots who think children are inanimate objects who can be processed on an assembly-line-esque school and hammered into the same mold. NOT TO MENTION how detrimental that kind of teaching is to a democratic society- sure it worked great for Stalin’s Russia.

          • Chemistry Teacher

            Sorry. The MOST recent research shows no support for the multiple intelligences model… I talking about articles published in the last 8 weeks.

            • Nico

              Not the one’s I read. Opponents of multiple intelligence curricula just want an excuse to force all their students to mindlessly obey and fill in the one right answer on a bubble sheet at the expense of critical thinking and mindful learning. ALL students learn differently: gender, income, race, cultural background, economic background effects how students absorb and interpret information. Multiple intelligence is just the BEGINNING of how we need to rethink teaching. Unless you’re too lazy to care about your students.

              • Allison Maria Doyle

                Beautifully said. Anyone who thinks otherwise hasn’t had any experience in the classroom, witnessing multiple intelligences first hand. This is particularly true for the younger students who need to develop the fundamental skills necessary to even fathom understanding a course such as chemistry, CT.

      • scubus

        I don’t care how similar your class is, students require differentiation and further, if you want to use student centered teaching methods which research shows to be highly effective, there is no way one teacher with a class of 100 student (or anything over 30 actually) will accomplish it.

        Not to mention there is no such thing as similar learning styles and abilities across the board. A group of students with similar abilities on on topic may be divergent on the next.

    • rick

      Allison Marie Doyle- excellent!!!!

    • Nico

      THANK YOU!!!!! I JUST started teaching full time and am getting my butt kicked on a regular basis by my 150 students who have varying levels of academic, social, familial and behavioral issues.

      In this anti-teacher atmosphere, why would anyone want to do this thankless, stressful job for crap pay, getting abused on all ends? Because there is NO FUTURE for this society without teachers!

      If you have NEVER been a teacher, or been trained as an educator, you have NO RIGHT to decide education policy or flippantly judge teachers because of some crap you saw on TV.

      Schools are run like factories, and high-stakes testing makes them worse. No wonder students rebel!

      PS- If I had MY way- I’d get rid of Bloomberg- arrogant 1% oligarch that he is.

  • MARIA S

    I REALLY DO NOT UNDERSTAND HOW THIS MAN HAS MADE HIS MILLIONS. 50 FIVE YEAR OLDS IN A CLASSROOM DESIGNED FOR 20 CHILDREN ARE NOT GOING TO DO BETTER WITH AN AMAZING TEACHER. THE ONLY THING THAT WILL HAPPEN IS THAT TEACHER WILL QUIT! IT IS TIME TO GET RID OF HIM!

    • Frankt

      I went to catholic school in the 60s and 70s. We always had between 50 and 60 students in the class. We learned; we did well. But back then, most typically had a support system, with one parent at home…with the parents directly involved with their children’s schooling. Today, there is less of that…both parents working with little time to help and in some cases disinterested.
      He exaggerates the point. He needs to. Do we need to rid ourselves of 50% of the teachers?…NO, but some have to go (maybe 10% – 20 %). They need a better environment in which to teach. Different curriculum should be taught to different children based on their abilities.
      We need dramatic changes…and that is his point.

      The System is failing the children.

      Some teachers are failing the children.

      The Unions are definitely failing the children!

      • FrankT

        …and some parents are failing their children

        • Hugh O

          The Union is not failing the children. The Union is fighting to keep the 50% of new teachers who manage to last 5 years or more in the system. Most teachers work long hours at home after their day is done. Without a Union it would only be 10 times worse. The union is the organization that brought 7,000 oversized classrooms to the light. Without the union’s counter-voice things would go unchecked and it would only be worse. I’m tired of union bashing. Where is all this supposed collaboration everyone wants to make the system better?

      • Moodbud

        I absolutely agree with you, FrankT. Your comment is an island of common sense in a sea of insanity. Thanks.

        • Lauren S

          your all just as stupid as him. Your lack of common sense is insane. Put 70 kids in a classroom built for 30, add a single teacher and how do you expect the teacher to answer every question, talk to every kid, and even speak to a kid who is having trouble. In this econemy you want to actually drop teachers? Tell me what’s wrong with you?

        • Nico

          If you’re both the product of overcrowded classrooms, that pretty well proves the point about how detrimental to real education that is. Blame the teachers and Unions? Blame poverty and underfunded, overcrowded public schools. But you both probably don’t really give a crap, just love to spout your right-wing views with no care about how many people’s lives would be destroyed if they were ever put into action.

  • Debbi Atkinson

    He’s insane: it is a well known fact, study for years, that class size has a great impact on learning; he just doesn’t care if the 99% gets educated. He probably views education for the masses as a very dangerous thing.

  • p8nt

    From the way Bloomy is looking at it, I can understand where he’s coming from. Look at the student/professor ratio in colleges. A professor can have 100 to 200 students, and if they are good, all the students do better. This also puts more responsibility to the student and well as to the parents. The school system is bloated with teachers who shouldn’t be teaching, yet they are there teaching your children. I mean, pretending to teach your children.
    Frankly, if your child doesn’t want to go to school, doesn’t want to learn, your much better off teaching them to say “Would you like fries with that?”

    • Yarp

      I hated those big stadium classes you were forced to take in freshman year. All you do is take notes and try not to fall asleep, and even though I did well in the classes, I couldn’t tell you what I learned from any of those classes. The bulk of my college learning was done in small, intimate classes where you could discuss about issues in a circle with your classmates. Who would pick stadium teaching over that? And a younger student definitely wouldn’t be able to pay attention in a sea of 100 students.

    • Jamie

      In college it is possible to have classes of 100 to 200 students because you are teaching adults. With children, you need discipline. Anyone who has taught knows that there are some kids who behave no matter what, and you might get really lucky and have a 100-child class who all behave. But you know what? It isn’t likely. How is one teacher supposed to handle 100 children from a disciplinary standpoint?

  • Mike C

    What do you call a medical student that graduates at the bottom of his class?

    Doctor

  • Steven Barnett

    The mayor is dead right. The teacher’s union protects bad teachers from getting fired, not the students rights and needs.
    http://teachersunionexposed.com/protecting.cfm

    • Moonbud

      Glad there are sensible people like you out there. Thanks, Steven!

    • Jamie

      The teacher’s union also protects good teachers from getting fired because not all of their students are brilliant, or because an administration wants to make changes that the previous teachers stand in the way of.

    • LB

      Glad you agree Steven Barnett. What would we do without your opinions? Why don’t we just fire everyone in every field? Maybe you too. What makes you immune? Did you graduate from MIT at the top of your class? Are you finding a cure for AIDS? Most teachers are hard working and dedicated. We spend our own money to purchase the top of the line things for our classrooms, work late, come in early…what are you out there doing? Finding propaganda on the internet? to post here? Great job.

    • Nico

      Before the teacher’s union, teachers got paid less than gas station attendants. If you want to go back to that world, expect worse teachers, not better ones. Unions are the only protection workers have, and TEACHING IS THE HARDEST JOB ON THE WORLD! That NONE of you right-wing pricks could survive doing for 5 minutes!

  • Melanie C

    What in the hell are you talking about? That is by far one of the dumbest things I have ever heard. Not only am I offended that you have bashed females under 35 by calling them “little girls” but you have failed to realize how grueling of a task it is to put yourself through college only to be faced with one of the biggest hiring freezes in the DOE history.

    Perhaps if Bloomberg allowed recent grads holding degrees in Education to get hired and forced older teachers who have no clue on how to educate using new and improved learning methods, students would have a better chance at actually attaining a higher education instead of dropping out.

    • xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      hey baby, you need to relax…c’mere, you.

    • FC

      How dare you. I am currently a teacher and spend hours of my own time seeking out professional development opportunities and researching AND IMPLEMENTING new methods of teaching. So I should be fired so you can get into a classroom and quite possibly quit within two years when you find out , as I did, that everything you learned will be turned on it’s head by administrative decisions made by administrators who have very little experience in classroom education. Theory is fine, but experience is everything. I truly hope you find work soon. We need more teachers! However, do not dare suggest that your employment is more important or more valuable than mine.

    • Becky

      Any sweeping generalization claiming that all experienced educators are incompetent and only newly trained teachers are qualified is absurd. Teachers are individuals and need to be judged as such.Education theories and courses work extremely well when presented in a college class to fellow students. The true training for a teacher takes place once in a classroom in front of students and that usually is enhanced by their working with an experienced mentor.

      • FC

        Well said!

    • Lorraine Cogliando

      Melanie,
      From a teacher who has never had a class or a teaching job, where do you come off suggesting that older teachers are inefficient? Are you an idiot yourself or is it sour grapes that you don’t have a job? How dare you suggest that older teachers don’t know new and improved teaching methods! Where is your data showing that what you have learned is better? Are you suggesting that drop out rate is related to old teaching styles? Wake up little girl! That’s like saying that after 25 years experience at a craft, you are no longer capable! I have more degrees and courses and training AND experience in education than years you are an adult! HOW DARE YOU suggest that your recent training is more beneficial than what I have been practicing with successful results for 25 years! It’s the reason why I make double of what you will make when you enter! I’m worth twice as much! Experience is the best teacher! You will probably be one of the teachers I will have to go in and “Bail out” until you get the hang of it!

      • Lyndac1027

        I have been teaching for 33 years and parents beg my principal to have their kids in my class. IMy experience is a positive. I can see a problem developing before it escalates into something serious. I’ve had great success with “failing students” and with those students who have been deemed “gifted and talented”.I know methods not taught in a college class because I was taught by senior teachers. Look at it this way…if you’re diagnosed with a brain tumor where are you going to be treated and whom do you want treating you? The brand new doctor fresh out of med school at your local er or do you want that seasoned doctor iat Columbian Presbyterian? Stop bashing teachers. We are not the problem.

  • Arlene

    I think he needs his head examined. We only have to get rid of one person, HIM!
    Anyone who believes what he says also need to have their heads examined.

    • Moodbud

      As do those who suggest head-examination in this case.

      • Lauren S

        none of you are teachers. If you are how would you feel to get fired in this econemy. Im a student right now, and all my teachers have trouble shutting up the whole class of 30 kids. how will they shut up 70? I hate classes with too many kids. It’s terrible and i cant pay attention. Moodbud you do need your head examined. Your an idiot

  • Learn how to spell!

    Their*

  • Really?

    Really? I’d like to turn your point around and blame it on the under 35 parents that have no job or means to raise their children. By the time I graduated college I had already been working for 8 years – at one time between 16 -22 I was working three jobs at once during vacations off of school. I will not have kids until I can afford to pay for them. That is the way it should be. Who cares if these women drink coffee and they are throughly trained in college and they have internships. If you really want to go there I think these insects that keep reproducing for financial handouts, without the means or ability to raise a child properly, should be fixed until they can. Most of the inner-city parents are the issue- who have no job or education and aren’t in a position to be bringing life into this world. They don’t care for their children or teach them morals- they are selfish and it is a vicious cycle that keeps repeating. The innocent kids who are the product of good parents have to sit in a class while the teacher is discipling the problem parent’s child. That is our issue. We should go back to corpral punishment… and stop giving handouts for popping out a baby. Problem solved- teachers would finally be allowed to teach and shape young minds rather than acting as ineffective prison wardens. (ineffective because they can’t touch or yell at disrespectful brats.)

    • drelo

      Really? hope you don’t have any kids!

      • FC

        “Well said” referred to Becky’s comment not the Mayor’s Statement!!!

  • Karen O

    The entire school system in New York and throughout the United States needs to be overhauled. Mayor Bloomberg comes at the DOE as a business man not as a humanitarian. When people become adults they find jobs that fit their skills…..yet in school each child is treated the same. They all have to learn the same things, the same way. It doesn’t work….why can’t we learn that? Why can’t the kids who show a talent for math early on be placed in a track that enhances that talent? And a child who doesn’t get the hang of math but is an avid reader be placed in a track where basic math skills are taught (like how to know how much change you get after paying for something at a store, or how much you’re going to pay for a $50 dress if it’s discounted 20%) and the arts are predominant. Then we wouldn’t have kids failing and acting out and making it impossible for teachers to handle them in a classroom of 30. Maybe the teachers would even like teaching the things they are most interested in to kids who are interested too. We are a diverse species. It makes us special. People like Mayor Bloomberg think there is one mold and everyone should fit into it. Let’s create a school system where children are prepared for success in a career that utilizes their natural talents or interests. Try looking at the Democratic Free school system. Success is built on high self esteem. Our school system focuses on a child’s weaknesses instead of his strengths. It’s not the teachers fault. Every teacher I’ve known and I know a lot of them are concerned about their students. They have things they want to teach to them and they are frustrated by a system that beats them down. Mayor Bloomberg should be ashamed of himself.

    • Mel

      I Totally Agree with you

  • Eva

    I have really had it with this jerk. He needs to stop pretending he is good at anything besides fattening his own pockets. Schools are as bad as ever, they are just covered in different names. Principals are forced to act like tyrants in schools, teachers are miserable, and students are not learning a thing. Walk through any public school that isn’t located in the richest sections of Manhattan and you will see students are way below grade level. This is what New Yorkers deserve but putting this jerk back in office.

  • sean molloy

    You are an embarrassment Bloomberg. Take your billions and go live on an island with your parasitic investement class friends. You are a disgrace!

  • NYCTeachers.com

    Bloomberg should get rid of the incompetent Administrators at Tweed and throughout the entire Dept of Education. If these incompetent fools were bounced from their high paying low-performing jobs then the NYC Teachers would be able to teach in ways that make sense. This, from a guy who hired a Magazine reject to run the school system. What an idiot.

    • profcath

      When everyone is done having a snit fit, one can see that there is some validity to his underlying themes. He is asserting that half the teachers are ‘bad.’ Tenuring public school teachers is probably the worst thing one can do. When one has tenure, the inclination is to rest on ones laurels. Not care as much. You need motivated teachers that work hard because they love teaching kids AND they love having a job. Look at private school models. No tenure. Look at recent grads of teaching programs: dying to work and filled to the brim with enthusiasm. Look at someone who has been there 5, 10, 15 years. Same grind, resentment towards the system, and materials in the can. And yes, I am a teacher. And yes, I’ve put kids through this education system. I get what he is saying. He just said it poorly.

      • NYCTeachers.com

        Ok here are a couple of real examples of the incompetence of the high level, low performing Administrators at Tweed and DOE department CEOs. They turned down $800,000 in direct financial academic scholarships for students over a 2 year period. Student-athletes cannot receive college scholarships becuase MANY schools do not have their coursess registered with the NCAA, which means even if an athlete is an “A” student and is one of the best athletes in NYC he/she cannot receive a Division I college scholarship… why you ask, because no one at the DOE understands the process. The DOE turns down many opporunities that bring funds and resources directly to the schools, if the funding and/or resources goes to the Administrative offices. is it about the kids or the high-level, high-pay, low-performing Administrators? You now the answer don’t you. This is where the incompetence begins. Would you follow a fool? Well, that’s what NYC Teachers are asked to do….follow fools.

        • NYCTeachers.com

          The DOE turns down many opporunities that bring funds and resources directly to the schools, if the funding and/or resources do not go to the Administrative offices…

          • NYCTeachers.com

            I do agree though, that 50% of the teachers in NYC are incompetent.

            • sick of the bs

              when an educated person makes a comment like that the only response one can have is prove it!!

              • profcath

                Well then, put a spint on it. Demonstrate that 50% are capable. Throwing stats around is useless. Spend some time IN the system, and then offer your take.

                • Bloomburg sucks

                  ok you volenteer to quit. Because apparently your a horrible teacher if you support this

            • Lorraine Cogliando

              Frank, if u knew anything about teaching today, you wouldn’t make the comments.I too went to Catholic school and your numbers are inflated, let’s face it! No class had 50 or 60; more like 40-50 at the most. The system at the top is failing the children. Their only hope is the school and the teachers. Many of the parents and families are failing their students! God forbid anyone put blame where it goes! Unions, have nothing to do with failing students! I’ve been a successful teacher for 25 yrs and still going. Attended and taught Catholic school and am teaching at PS for 20 yrs, outsiders don’t have a clue!and to NYCTeachers.com…How do you know 50% of the teachers must go. Where do you get your info?

            • Olivia NYC

              That’s strange, because I worked in teaching for 6 years, and I think I only worked with two colleagues who were truly incompetent. They probably could have been developed into reasonably good teachers with the proper management support. I received tenure, and it didn’t change one bit of my practice as a teacher. It just made me more likely to fight harder for my students with IEPs who were legally entitled to services. As an untenured teacher, I felt too vulnerable to challenge or question. Ultimately, I exhausted myself, and now I do not teach. Just saying…

            • scubus

              Based upon what, exactly?

        • profcath

          I didn’t realize the problem was one-dimensional. Perhaps one could step back and concur that the challenges lie on many levels; administration, taxpayers, parents, teachers.

        • Vasilca

          You hit the hammer exactly on the head of the nail. Each day some NYC teacher is following a fool. As the Good book says, “if the blind leads the blind, they will both fall into the ditch.” I understand that the Mayor is frustrated about the conditions of our schools, but he needs to get rid of ineffective administrators. The success of our children depends on the teachers not on the Principals and other administrators.

      • scubus

        1. Teachers don’t have tenure, they have due process protection which, given the political nature of education, is needed.

        2. There is absolutely no evidence to support the assertion that a teacher with “tenure” rest on their laurels, care less or lack motivation., None. It is a made up assertion and I challenge anyone to find evidence it is true.

        3. The valid data and evidence suggests that private schools do no better, and often worse, then their peers in the public system teaching similar populations of students.

        4. Since you are willing to sacrifice good teachers to get at this glut of bad ones, surely you can identify them by name and say why they are bad teachers? I hope so, because nobody else is able to point them out.

        5. If this is how you arrive at conclusions and communicate them and you really are a teacher I suggest you may be a poor teacher.

  • Anyone but Bloomberg

    In the history of this city, there’s never been a mayor who’s more out of touch with the realities of living and working here. How a billionaire from Boston ever got elected here will remain a mystery to me for as long as I live. He put parks in the middle of the street, excessively raised traffic ticket fines, property taxes, and fees for everything NY’ers have to pay the city for. He refused to get involved in mediating the MTA’s labor disputes. When MTA workers went on strike, he suggested that NY’ers ride bicycles to work. He overthrew term limits, after the people voted to maintain them. He said the city needed him to be mayor again because he would be best able to handle the financial crisis, and then during his re-election campaign, tried to make a case that he had already gotten the city out of this crisis. He cut out parking spaces and increased traffic by reducing car lanes and adding bike lanes on most every street. During his re-election campaign, he told NY’ers that he was sending out property tax rebate checks. After he got re-elected, he tried to stop those checks from being sent. I could go on, but there’s too much to list. This is undeniably one of the worst mayors in the history of NY.

    • MAYOR MIKE IS A POS

      WELL SAID

    • midi-man

      I Agree. He is killing us.

    • MARIA S

      AGREE AGREE AGREE I AM SO SICK OF HEARING HIS IDIOTIC COMMENTS

    • Alan

      Why stop now. Keep on going.

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