Time Warner Cable Customers Still Without MSG

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork / AP) – You want your Chinese food to be without MSG, but you don’t want your cable that way.

WCBS 880’s Marla Diamond On The Story

New York Knicks fans endured the NBA lockout, but now Time Warner Cable subscribers are dealing with a different type of blackout as the company faces off with MSG Network.

MSG and MSG+ were knocked out on Sunday to over one million customers.

Dan Ronayne, executive vice president and general manager of MSG network, told 1010 WINS they are committed to trying to reach a deal, though there are no “meaningful” discussions taking place at the moment.

“All that we are asking is that Time Warner Cable value our programming the same as other TV providers — no more, no less,” Ronayne said. “We’ve been attempting to reach an agreement with Time Warner for two years and every proposal that we’ve made to them has been rejected. We’re very disappointed that it’s come to this.”

Matthew Flamm, senior reporter at Crain’s New York Business says don’t expect a settlement any time soon.

“There isn’t one event here that’s going to make anybody buckle. So, it could go on for a while,” he told WCBS 880 reporter Marla Diamond.

Time Warner says MSG wants a 53 percent rate increase, after the two sides had agreed on a 6.5 percent increase.

MSG says the 53 percent figure is incorrect.

Flamm says these cable disputes are happening with more frequency because of a decline in ad revenues.

“There is a lot more pressure to try and get more money from the cable distributor,” Flamm said, who he adds, end up raising your rates.

MSG says Time Warner subscribers will miss 15 New York Knicks basketball games, nine New York Rangers hockey games, and 11 New Jersey Devils hockey games.

“Fans certainly are caught in the middle here and they’re missing their games,” Ronayne said. “We’re urging fans to switch to new TV providers so that they don’t miss anymore games.”

MSG also carries Buffalo Sabres hockey on Time Warner in upstate New York.

Who are you more mad at? Time Warner Cable or MSG Network? Sound off in the comments section below!

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  • Charlotte Hanley

    I think that the both of these companies want more money. It is greed that fuels these people. But as customers we get blacked out channels. So maybe more people should go elsewhere. I am looking for another provider!

  • Wm O'Neal

    Who is Msg kidding, they know that once Twc does pony up the money is coming from us the customers. And twc is just as foul, they’ll up our bill in a minute but when its time for them to pay more they act like little B____’es.

  • Barbara

    What about us horse racing fans who now can’t watch the replays from Aqueduct, and who don’t get the NYRA channel? Come on, MSG, give a little.

  • Tim

    Good thing I did not switch to Time Warner just yet. I have suffered with Dish Network for the past 15 months and their dispute with MSG hoping it would settle soon and was going to switch to Time Warner but instead picked up high speed internet to pick up the games on-line. Its kind of choppy but works. I was not happy and frustrated with Dish Network on this MSG dispute, but now this same dispute with Time Warner and MSG shows that MSG is the problem. I am still not happy with Dish Network abandoning me but I am hoping that this conflict now with Time Warner shakes something up and brings back my games to Dish Network.

    • Looking at my options

      Actually, Time Warner Cable pulled the same nonsense that Dish did – both providers unilaterally pulled the MSG owned FUSE channel from their systems. As much as I want to hate the Dolans in this matter, I can’t. Both Dish and TW Cable provoked these disputes. None of the parties are truly negotiating in good faith. If TW Cable was so innocent in this dispute, it would be refunding the $4.50 / month that it currently charges us for MSG for MSG and MSG+. TWC adamantly REFUSES to do so. I’ve already canceled Cinemax, Showtime and the TW Cable sports package. Pretty soon, I’ll be looking to call FiOS and switch..

  • Borko

    So few of these Time Warner Cable v. MSG Networks stories mention the New York Islanders fans missing out on their team, even though this one inexplicably mentions the Buffalo Sabres. I don’t care that the Isles are sitting second-to-last in the conference, I still want to watch them!

    • S. A.

      Amen! I was so mad I missed last night’s game with the Hurricanes that ended in an exciting — and thankfully triumphant for the Isles — shootout!

      The problem is that I was even willing to buy the NHL online package to watch the game. The trouble is, local games are blacked out! So you can’t get around not having MSG. This is really frustrating. I find it so hard that we have so few options.

  • Tommy

    I hate the Dolans as much as I hate the Wilpons

  • MSG SUCKS!!!!

    MSG are slimy greedy pigs. Knicks Tix up 50% this year. Rangers up 25%. They have the nerve to increase there cable rates double digit %. I never though I would say anything good about TIme Warner but these MSG Pigs really make even Time Warner look good. In this economy they should be holding rates the same. The average person is paying a fortune for cable TV and these companies only want more. It my understanding that MSG wants to be reimbursed higher then ESPN which is a national network. On top of all this they are spending hundreds of thousands of $ running ads in the local newspapers on how Time Warner sucks. They need more $ to run a smear campaign. You really can not make this stuff up. Its a sad joke on all of us that just want to watch hockey or basketball.

  • paul

    Its really amazing how these corporate giants are screwing the average guy once again. Right after the NBA lock out . MSG and Timewarner decide to do this. I’m ready to cancel Time Warner and also stop watching Knicks and Rangers games .. We need a consumer boycott on both companies ..This is not the time to do more damage to the middle class families.

  • David Polakoff

    While consumers just successfully pulled an “Occupy Verizon Wireless,” forcing Verizon Wireless to retreat from a plan to charge certain customers $2 to pay bills over the phone, it is inconceivable to me why there are not “Occupy Time Warner Cable” and “Occupy MSG Network” movements. The latest cable provider vs. cable programmer feud begs for consumers to rise up and initiate an “Occupy Cable Television” movement.

    – David Polakoff

  • Ali

    I’m not for either side. I can survive watching knicks game online rather then switching to new provider. on the other hand, F…cable companies. Time Warner recent as last month increased $6 on standard package monthly fee with out telling me. I’m pretty that goes for all customer so no one is innocent here. I cant stand cable\dish and etc. And for network they always want more money to watch their channels yet they go out spend money on useless products or programs (knicks players, tv reporters who are horriable)

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