Stamford Fire Investigation Continues; Police Interview Michael Borcina

STAMFORD, Conn. (CBSNewYork) — The investigation continues into the deadly Christmas Day fire that killed three young sisters and their grandparents in Stamford.

Sources tell CBS 2 News that Michael Borcina was interviewed Monday night by Stamford police in his lawyer’s office.

Borcina and homeowner Madonna Badger were the only survivors of the blaze.

Investigators believe Borcina may have accidentally started the lethal blaze by placing fireplace embers in the mudroom of the Victorian-style home.

Officials said Borcina jumped out of the building and told firefighters that he had led the children down to the second floor. However, the heat of the blaze had apparently driven the children and grandparents back up to the third floor.

Badger’s parents, Lomer and Pauline Johnson, and her three daughters, 9-year-old Lily and 7-year-old twins Sarah and Grace, were killed.

All of the victims died of smoke inhalation. Lomer Johnson, 71, also suffered blunt trauma to the head and neck.

Johnson had stepped out onto the roof of the home and fell through the rafters to the ground below. Investigators say he spent his last moments trying desperately to save his grandchildren.

Badger was interviewed by police last week.

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  1. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Her eulogy was strange. She talked about the girls like they were awards she had won or achievements she had accomplished. Very scripted.

    1. Francis Ford says:

      yup weird weird

    2. Suzette says:

      Deborah, I don’t how it sounded in church, with the wails and sobs to accompany it, but online it read like a very carefully scripted speech, as you noted. What gets me is how this woman, having just lost five members of her famiily – all of her children plus her parents – in a horrific fire ignited by her boyfriend, no less, could then have the mental capacity to write a long and strangely analytical speech about her daughters, and then stand at a podium to recite it! That wasn’t brave, as the media called it, it was bizarre. People who are suffering fresh grief are unable to choke out more than a few words about their dead loved ones, if that!

      1. NYC10009 says:

        And referring to them as “my” children, not “our” children, in front of the father sitting only a few feet away who was too overcome with grief to be able to speak. What a horrible, cruel way to treat the father. And flaunting her relationship with Borcina by walking arm-in-arm with him in front of the father – can you imagine? Borcina is the guy responsible for the death of his kids! The lack of sensitivity and empathy Badger show is astonishing.

        1. Suzette says:

          Welcome back, NYC10009!! I agree with your comment. Clinging to her children’s killer to their funeral was stunningly cruel to girls’ father and sick.

  2. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Yeah Suzette can you believe that story of her and the school teacher? She was an arrogant brat even when she was a kid? Amazing. I’m in my mid forties and grew up in the same era and I wouldn’t dare talk to a teacher like that, I would’ve been locked in a closet for an hour which was how we were punished in my school. She had no respect for the teacher’s authority.

    1. Francis Ford says:

      i wonder what caused the divorce

        1. lauralee3 says:

          It’s about time! There are just too many shady things regarding this whole tragic event. Borcina (and maybe Madonna too) needs to be held accountable. Accident or not, he needs to be held accountable – criminally or civilly – in some way for what happened. He has not been in Madonna’s life long enough to have built a relationship with either her daughters or her parents and she needs to cut him loose…Borcina’s evil, no matter how good he is in the sack!

        2. Suzette says:

          One thing I like about the NY Post is that they are not sugar-coating their coverage of this case, the way the lame stream media has been doing. No buttercups for the Post. No trying to wrap the responsible parties in pink and blue ribbons. They report the facts.

          1. Francis Ford says:

            yup true even tho its never been my favorite newspaper u are right about this example…did u read the comments there suzette?

            1. Suzette says:

              Francis, I sure did. So many people were saying the same thing that we have been saying here. I haven’t read the comments, since you posted the link, though. Anything new?

              1. Francis Ford says:

                S-not sure how many were there when u read them. there are a LOT now! also the number of comments is increasing at Radar…so many people feel this story is fishy

                1. Francis Ford says:

                  if u read carefully you will see how it looks like B (the thug) is going to try to squirm his way out of this mess….he was NOT the general contractor for the job.. michael foley was (stamford advocate)….but it looks complicated in terms of the paperwork…..i have a feeling B will try to blame M in the long run to save his own a–

                  1. Suzette says:

                    I am afraid you are right. According to news reports, thug man used the absent Foley’s name on his paperwork in order to get the permits. Was Foley aware of that? When contacted by reporters the other day, he had no comment.

                    1. Francis Ford says:

                      looks like B runs quite a the “business”…imagine being served with papers after the stamford fire while you are still in the hospital because you’ve been unable to be “found” earlier! ……and imagine having the kind of connections downtown stamford to have the buildings department say okay to a tear down of the house without any paperwork and even without (it seems) any police okay on that destroying of evidence…..now its not too hard to imagine pinning down responsibility for living in the stamford house to the Owner not yourself…(you are only the “JR.. contractor so nothing’s your fault remember?)”….that would be such classic thug behavior, wouldn’t it?

                    2. Francis Ford says:

                      the NY POST Updated today

                      From the Post: “Top intelligence and finance guru Maurice Sonneberg won an $87,000 judgment against Borcina in 2005 after suing him for botched renovations to an apartment on Sonnenberg’s Connecticut property, which dragged on for 17 months.

                      Borcina was slapped with a negligence suit in 2002 by a Connecticut couple after they learned he had no valid registration and installed a kitchen duct system that wasn’t fire rated, among other things. They won a $15,000 settlement.

                      In December, 2010, a New York music producer accused Borcina of failing to pay a sub-contractor and keeping nearly half the $60,000 he’d been advanced for work on a Long Island home.

                      Borcina was also sued in June in Manhattan by a man who’d hired him to renovate his Upper West Side co-op. The suit alleges Borcina didn’t get proper work permits before starting the project, and his shoddy work affected other apartments”
                      http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/fire_probers_turn_up_heat_IqU1ZvMURktamW0cSwaxVP#ixzz1kE7pjYoQ

                    3. Suzette says:

                      Francis, I will put this here, since the reply box is missing from your comment below. Apparently, he has a history of hiding out in the houses belonging to his duped clients. This may be the way he evaded getting served for so long. I bet his cold eyes popped out of their sockets, when they served him with papers in the hospital.

    2. Suzette says:

      Ditto! And, I agree that little “reminiscence” of hers speaks volumes about the type of person she really is.

  3. Catherine Gamito says:

    I knew this guy was bad news the first moment the story was reported, that’s a no brainer. As far as the mother goes, she’s no different from scores of selfish moms who value their boyfriends more than their own children. It happens all the time, in rich and poor alike. There are very few boyfriends who really want to be spending a lot of time with the children of another man, which is why single moms really need to be a lot more selective in the company they keep. As a single mom myself, a widow, I briefly fell into this trap and quickly got out when I started to get the heebie jeebies about a man not related to my daughters pretending to be interested in them to get to me. I’m certainly amazed Madonna Badger would allow this Borcina anywhere near her, after the part he played in the death of her children and parents. Then again, I’m amazed the woman could compose a eulogy and get up to deliver it not long after this carnage. She showed a troubling presence of mind.

    1. Francis Ford says:

      I so agree we single moms need to be VERY careful I am another one myself and I have had my share off these heebie jeebie guys. And, I totally agree with your comment re: her ‘troubling presence of mind”. That funeral behavior really blew my mind and not in any good way.

      1. Suzette says:

        DItto!

    2. lauralee3 says:

      Based upon her executive status, I would surmise that Madonna is a very strong-willed, get-what-she-wants type of woman. When I saw her ex-husband in the church photos, he appeared shorter than her and looked mild-mannered (at least to me). They had been together a long time and maybe the relationship ran its course. In stark contrast is that Borcina character, whom I will guess is burly beast, especially in bed. I’ll bet she digs being with someone bigger and stronger than herself (cause he sure isn’t smarter…that’s a fact!).

      I’ve thought about her every day since the fire and wonder how she’s coping. Not only is her whole family dead, but gone are all the reminders of her children…photos, mementos, drawings, etc. Unlike Jackie Hance who probably spent countless days staring at her daughters’ rooms, Madonna doesn’t have that. It’s like her kids and all their tangible memories are gone. Probably just what Borcina wanted.

  4. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Made the entire front page of the Stamford Advocate but of course cable News 12 CT said nothing which is typical because they try to spin stories to reflect their point of view. Madonna Badger thinks that she’s the center of the universe and she needed her gangster man to keep telling her how great she was. Arrogance is an attribute that I have no tolerance for. To think I was starting to feel sorry for her! UGH!

    1. Francis Ford says:

      where is CBS?
      we need a new page!

      1. Suzette says:

        Agree! Plus, seeing that photo of the five victims, each time this page is refreshed, is so heartbreaking.

        1. Francis Ford says:

          yup i just posted that Fox has the Borcina story now but it went to the bottom of this thread
          now we have two pages!

          1. Francis Ford says:

            fox say the house DID HAVE “working battery operated smoke detectors”.
            HUH??? this story gets weirder and weirder and keeps changing.
            http://www.myfoxny.com/dpp/news/questions-about-work-history-of-stamford-fire-survivor-20120120

            1. Suzette says:

              Good work, Francis!

              From the Fox article:

              “It’s my opinion that he’s a charlatan and a predator of a certain type,” Holly Flor said. Flor and her husband hired Michael Borcina to renovate their home in Roxbury, Conn., about a decade ago.

            2. Suzette says:

              Yeah, curious that the unnamed “source” claims there were “working” smoke detectors. How would anyone know this, since someone – the mayor? – ordered the house to be torn down right away?

              1. Francis Ford says:

                very creepy that flor said this fire tragedy was “not unimaginable”…she had zero good to say about him….Madonna must have noticed, even in the short time she knew him, what a mean and high strung xxx she was dating.

                1. Suzette says:

                  Yes, unless she has no sense whatsoever, she had to know that he was an anti-social thug. Apparently, she was thought that was thrilling! After spending years with a gentle looking husband, a man who is short in stature and appears to be not very assertive, the, strapping, mean and highly unpredictable Borcina was a wild and wooly change for her. She recklessly brought the evil creep into her family home, and into her bed, with nary a thought for her parents’ and dear little girls’ safety. She needs to be charged along with him.

    2. Suzette says:

      But your eyes are wide open now. Too bad the same can’t be said of the sorry media!

      1. Suzette says:

        Deborah, the above was to you. I have noticed that replies often show up under the wrong comment.

    3. Francis Ford says:

      Today it is in the NY Post too :

      “According to sources, the investigation has been hindered because the home was ordered torn down the day of the fire.”

      “One source said the police were not consulted in the decision to tear down the home. Conklin did not respond to several requests for comment on whether his department knew about the tear-down order in advance.”

      “Stamford building department chief Robert DeMarco said he personally made the call to have Badger’s home demolished just hours after the Dec. 25 blaze for “safety reasons.’

      “No paperwork was filed regarding the order, he said”.

      Read more:
      http://www.nypost.com/p/news/local/fire_probers_turn_up_heat_IqU1ZvMURktamW0cSwaxVP

  5. patty cake says:

    this guy is a murderer and Madonna Badger was a bad mother

    1. Suzette says:

      I agree.

  6. Francis Ford says:

    I am surprised more major media did not pick up this story today.

    1. Suzette says:

      Francis, do you have the link?

      1. Francis Ford says:

        what link?

        1. Suzette says:

          LOl, sorry, Francis, I thought you were talking about a specific article.

  7. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Some commentaries Madonna Badger has been quoted to have said, really tick me off. At the eulogy she said at Windward School, Dr. Schwab called a meeting with Sarah’s class to allow each child to take turns spending time with her. Then Madonna spoke of during her childhood, refusing to attend class until her teacher could say her name to her satisfaction. Both of these statements are arrogance at its worst. GET OVER YOURSELF WOMAN! Sheesh!

    1. Suzette says:

      What a piece of work that woman is. Nursing a grudge against a teacher who messed up the pronunciation of her name, when she was a child! Speaking of her name, wonder if she was christened “Madonna,” or adopted the name later on, because normally it is Catholics who revere the Madonna like no other religion, and Badger is not Catholic. She does have the same gap in her front teeth as her pop squealing namesake, fallen Catholic, Madonna. A wild coincidence? Anyhow, your post recalls the old saying “Careful what you wish for.’ Badger, still peeved that one of her childhood teachers forgot her name, may have had a obsessive lifelong need for people to remember it. Well, as a direct result of bringing evil into her family home some forty years later, her name will be remembered for a long, long time.

    2. NYC10009 says:

      That is SO unbelievably sick and narcissistic! She took time from the eulogy for her deceased children to recount a tale from her own childhood where her ego was bruised over something so stupid?!?! What does that have to do with her children anyway? This only confirms what I suspected about her character all along. Chilling. Absolutely chilling.

      1. Francis Ford says:

        no i dont think this was part of the eulogy….

        1. Francis Ford says:

          maybe i am wrong i dont know

          1. lauralee3 says:

            No, she did not say this at the eulogy (why would she?). This is just a story about her that was reported in the news.

  8. Deborah Jeffries says:

    He made the front page of my paper today. The picture of him took up half the cover page. One thing I notice is that he looks like a mean, evil and devoid of emotion man. Definitely not a warm, homey daddy type for a woman with three young girls. Looks like a guy who would shoot you dead for a twenty dollar debt and not have an ounce of remorse.

    1. Suzette says:

      Isn’t that the truth. He looks like a cunning sociopath.

  9. Deborah Jeffries says:

    The City of Stamford grants him permits with an expired license, that’s bad enough. But my question is with about twenty civil suits in NY and CT for unfinished work, WHY HASN’T HE BEEN ARRESTED? This is a criminal offense. Boy what a charmed good fella he is.

    1. Suzette says:

      Good question!

  10. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Borcina’s conduct in how he conducts business is egregious and he has no moral character. It’s definitely isn’t surprising with all this info coming out that he would be so reckless to start a fire that killed five people. Of course Madonna’s in danger this man lives life like a gangster. But only she can help herself.

  11. Anne says:

    I am reading all of this, and this Borcina character is becoming scarrier by the second… I wonder: is anyone in Madonna’s entourage- family, friends- reading these posts, and starting to open their eyes, and trying to protect her in some way?

    1. Anne says:

      Sorry I meant to write “scarier”…

    2. Francis Ford says:

      The truth is, it is very hard to protect any adult person in any love/lover choice situation. But lets hope so, yes.

  12. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Francis, great article about Borcina and his legal troubles and if he thinks lawsuits are bad, if the police turn the case over to the State’s Attorney, the real legal problems begin. And oh God that picture of him, two words come to mind AL CAPONE!

    1. Francis Ford says:

      Deborah can you believe someone even tried to serve him papers right after the Stamford fire while he was in the hospital? It really goes to show you he can NEVER be found when he owes you money and you are trying to serve him with legal papers.

  13. Francis Ford says:

    GUESS WHO’S IN TROUBLE?
    SEE NEWSTIMES.COM 1/19/2012
    “BORCINA HAS TROUBLED LEGAL HISTORY”

    1. Francis Ford says:

      Deborah and Suzette you were soooo right about this character.

      “He fancied himself a big-time contractor,” Flor said. “I think what he was, was a skilled carpenter.”

      Flor recalled Borcina as bombastic and aggressive, especially with his employees. His personality often appeared to get in the way of the job, she said, which languished over a four- to six-month period. Turnover among workers was high during the renovation, she recalled, and his personal life seemed turbulent. She often was unable to reach him by phone, and he blamed missed appointments on car trouble and other excuses, Flor said.

      “Even when I first met him he was always this testosterone-driven personality,” Flor said. “This macho thing came through as his modus operandi.”

      Read more: http://www.stamfordadvocate.com/news/article/Borcina-has-troubled-legal-history-2642687.php#ixzz1jyEH8jKu

      1. Suzette says:

        Great find, Francis. I am still reeling. Turns out, this thug has long, sordid history of shady business practices and red flags, of lawsuits, judgments, damages, absconding with payments for unfinished work, mooching off clients, and moving in with them, claiming he a contractor license that expired back in 2000, and so much more. If there is any sane person left on the planet who thinks that goon was just a poor widdle thing who made a “stupid mistake” with a bag of embers, read the article! It also reveals that he now has hired a high-powered NY criminal defense lawyer! We know who likely is footing the bill for that, don’t we? She must be nuts.

        1. Francis Ford says:

          Suzette I am beginning to think that maybe Madonna was also tight for money. With a divorce pending and all those legal bills and buying a new house maybe the thug as you call him🙂 looked attractive to her as a cheaper way to get a remodel done as well as a temporary boytoy. He got the benefit of all her contacts. I do NOT think she intended for the fire to happen however or to lose her whole family.

          1. Suzette says:

            Francis, first, thanks again for posting those illuminating links. Good work. About Badger, I doubt she was on the financial skids, or anywhere close. Her business was enormously profitable, judging by the hugely successful brands named on her client list, and I imagine she was receiving generous support from Mr. Badger for their girls. Maybe she was tight WITH money, instead. On Facebook, she meets the slimeball who, in a few months, would give her whole family. He quickly finds out that she is a wealthy woman who recently purchased a big house. So, he plies her with fake charm, while whispering in her ear that, as a contractor (cough, cough), he can do fabulous things to her house, make it even more of a showplace than it already is – and for less money than any other contractor would charge! That would have appealed to her vanity. Borcina was an opportunist who sensed when to swoop in like a big, black crow, just when Badger was facing the loneliness of a marital separation, and impending divorce, not to mention staring 50 in the face. According to the lawsuits named in that link you posted, Borcina conned many, many people. I have a feeling Badger is a vain, narcissistic woman and one of his easiest marks.

            1. Francis Ford says:

              In other words, Suzette, two peas in a pod.

              1. Suzette says:

                Yes, those two were cut from the same cloth.

                1. Francis Ford says:

                  yup different versions of the same vegetable

  14. Francis Ford says:

    MATTHEW BADGER IS TRYING TO START UP HIS OWN FOUNDATION FOR HIS THREE GIRLS. SEE
    http://www.facebook.com/groups/friendswholovematt/
    “To all those how are interested in donations please note that I, Matthew Badger and some smart friends are highly motivated to start a foundation. I feel the need to channel the great sadness of Lily’s, Grace and Sarah’s death to a greater good. Whatever it may be, I promise it will reflect the joy my girls had in the arts, dance, drama and music. It will be selfless. It will be directed strictly…”

    1. lauralee3 says:

      Dear Matthew Badger,
      If you are reading this, please sue the pants off of that m-f’er contractor/neanderthal/whatever to fund your most noble foundation. May you be a burn (pun intended) in his side and that of your ex-wife, who knowingly put your precious children in harm’s way.

    2. NYC10009 says:

      It sounds to me like he’s rightfully upset with the “foundation” that Madonna started through her work, I believe, and is trying to set things right. He really has been left out of a lot, thanks to the selfish, narcissist Madonna Badger, even at the funeral she acted like he didn’t exist during her eulogy. There are little hints throughout: “It will be selfless.” I believe he knows that Madonna’s “foundation” was based on her ego needs, and there are many things not kosher about it. Good for him.

      1. Suzette says:

        I agree that the statement “It will be selfless,” was a subtle reference to her ‘foundation.” Remember her press release that coincided with the spectacle funeral? Her foundation, she said vaguely, would be about “compassion.”As in compassion for herself and her boyfriend? Unlike her, the father continues to conduct himself with dignity and class. Poor man. May there be justice for him one day.

        1. Francis Ford says:

          i agree with both of you!

  15. Deborah Jeffries says:

    That’s right lauralee the Mayor (Pavia and he is a guy) should look out for everyone, but Pavia who has rarely spoken publicly since taking office several years ago, seems to favor Mrs. Badger. I’ve rarely heard this much from him. We had a blizzard, hurricane and earthquake last year and we heard nothing from Mayor Pavia.

    1. Francis Ford says:

      You all in Stamford should PRESSURE him for more and better answers. Your are all tax payers and you all are voters. Does he want to get re-elected?

    2. Francis Ford says:

      Ask him why unlicensed contractors are granted building permits?
      etc

  16. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Very good comment about the comparison to the ship captain. The reality is Borcina is being treated differently because of his connection to Badger. She is a significant taxpayer in my city of Stamford and has been afforded favoritism by Mayor Pavia that a West Sider like me wouldn’t get.

    1. lauralee3 says:

      I don’t know of Mayor Pavia, but if you are correct, he/she should not count on being re-elected. A mayor is supposed to look out for the welfare of all citizens, especially the defenseless Lily, Sarah and Grace Badger.

    2. Francis Ford says:

      I think there is a cover up because how could the City of Stamford have granted permits to an unlicensed contractor (Borcina) last year in the first place? And how come the scaffolding wasn’t a red flag to the city that the house should not have been occupied??

    3. Suzette says:

      That is infuriating!

      1. Francis Ford says:

        The newspaper said he used the name of another contractor in order to get the Stamford permits. Typical liar type guy move. I wonder what we will hear come out of the mouth of this second, faceless contractor in the background til now?

  17. lauralee3 says:

    The captain of the sunken crusie ship in Italy has already been charged with manslaughter…why not Borcina? In both instances, innocent people died due to someone’s negligence/stupidity/inattention to detail. If I were Madonna Badger’s sibling(s), I’d be pushing for an indictment and/or civil suit. That a-hole needs to pay!!!

    1. Suzette says:

      Exactly. That negligent chicken of the sea was charged with manslaughter. Negligent Borcina needs to be charged, too!

  18. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Yeah I miss NYC COME BACK, COME BACK WE MISS YOU!!!! Suzette, you notice how Borcina was dressed at the funeral? He seriously looked like a mobster. I think this man is more dangerous than any of us could imagine. Madonna should sleep with one eye open.

    1. Suzette says:

      He did resemble a mobster at the funeral! And in photos taken on her property (before he incinerated it), he was wearing a huge gold medallion that looked like a lounge lizard in Vegas. Look for him and Badger to marry in a few months. He has her right where he wants her now.

      1. Francis Ford says:

        He was also expressionless which looked very creepy, especially next to the grieving father.

    2. NYC10009 says:

      I was looking for you guys on the older CBS page, and only just found this now! Such great, insightful comments!

      1. Suzette says:

        On behalf of the insightful commenters on this page, thanks, NYC! The same thing happened to me. I was posting away on the older thread, not realizing that everyone had moved over here!

  19. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Mayor Pavia was on my news tonight discussing a smoke detector give away when he mentioned Badger’s permits and comprehensive smoke alarm system listed. He seemed to be unclear about if it was required. It appeared to me as if he was implying that they were operational. Very unlikely because they would have escaped. Mayor Pavia’s comments are premature and appear to be an indirect influence on a police investigation and not very ethical.

    1. Suzette says:

      Hmmm… Is Mayo Pavia an Italiian, also?

      1. Suzette says:

        That should have been “Mayor”

    2. Francis Ford says:

      I have suspected this Mayor as being somehow implicated in this fire mess with the permits and C of O from Day One! That’s why he had the house torn down so fast! Who else could have authorized such a fast post-Christmas Day tear down like that? Did the call the wrecking crew and bulldozer guys on Christmas Day?

      1. Francis Ford says:

        Wonder if he’s in tight with the Police too? I hope not but ya never know. This stuff is so fishy.

  20. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Suzette, OMG WHAT? You mean to tell me she was with this bozo for like ninety days and has overnight (more like residing) stays with three daughters? You can’t possibly know someone that well in that little time. And now her whole family is dead. We know what body part she was thinking with and it wasn’t her brain.

    1. Suzette says:

      Deborah, yes, that’s the way it shapes up. That picture of thug man snuggling with his August girlfriend – a brunette – was a screenshot someone had taken of his Facebook page. Below it were the two buddy comments he got, when he originally posted the pic. Ond said (paraphasing) “At last you have a dark-haired girlfriend!” This woman looked many years younger than the dark-haired Badger and she didn’t have a gap in her teeth.

      BTW, I miss NYC10009’s posts. Don’t you?

      1. NYC10009 says:

        Hi Suzette!

        I kept checking the older CBS page, just found this now. Missed my comrades! Great comments, by the way.

    2. NYC10009 says:

      Unbelievable, right? On top of not knowing him, she allows him into her bed in front of her three little girls before the divorce from their father is even final.

      Speaks volumes. Seriously. This woman’s judgement is waaaaaaaaaaaaaay off.

      1. Suzette says:

        Incredible, isn’t it? And, how about the media! There she was, slumming with the anti-social carpenter – one of his many plaintiffs referred to him as such – and worse, she opted to shack up with him under the same roof with her very young, impressionable daughters. Yet, the media tiptoes over that unpleasant fact, and still tries to canonize her in their coverage. Sick!

        1. Francis Ford says:

          does anyone remember the firemen said they did not find other christmas decorations in the house? i remember reading that. to me it speaks volumes and i found it so odd. as far as the media goes she played a game with them that she knows very well, and they played right along and it almost worked! But now with the thug looking so thuggy, and so many unanswered safety issues, things are going to be shifting i think.

          1. lauralee3 says:

            You know those stories about women who hook up with guys who later swindle them out of money or kill them…because these guys have done it lots of times before? I think Madonna has hooked up with a swindler (Borcina) but she just hasn’t been with him long enough to know it. Now, with her daughters AND parents dead (at his hand) combined with all the stories about him coming out – especially being served papers in the hospital, if she has any brains at all, she will distance herself from him. And most likely feel like an idiot for parading him into that funeral. Cripes! He killed her entire family!!!!!!

  21. sam says:

    Borcina is the defendent in two civil suits in Connecticut – see State of Connecticut Case LookUp/Civil Court

    1. Cherry says:

      sam,
      Thanks for this information!

    2. Suzette says:

      Do you have the link?

    3. anya says:

      great get! What could that be for? More info?

  22. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Francis, I don’t know their relationship status for sure, but the appearance and demeanor of both of them at the funeral would make one assume they are still a couple. Suzette, I just wanted to be clear that I felt some sympathy because she completely lost her mental compass by hooking up with this creep. But she should NOT have let it cloud her ability to keep her family safe.

    1. Suzette says:

      Hi, Deborah, thanks for clarifying what you meant. I know your heart is in the right place, so no worries. I cannot muster any sympathy for a woman who would bring a creep like that into her family. He did everything but wear a neon sign around his neck to advertise himself, and she should have known better. After all, she is not some dewy-eyed twenty-year-old! On a related subject, did you see thw photo of him with his last girlfriend that has been posted all over the Internet? He originally posted it on his Facebook page in August of 2011, which suggests he hooked up with Badger and her millions just a few months before the fire.

      1. NYC10009 says:

        Hi Suzette!

        I have trouble fieeling sympathy for her, too. Instead, I’m angry. So many of her stupid choices led to this, whether they were unconscious or not. So much seems suspicious – all her narcissistic statements and actions both before and after the fire. And showing up with Borcina at the funeral, arm-in-arm. Who acts like that in front of the grieving father? Something is very wrong, And ultimately it was HER fireplace in HER home, and she was responsible for the actions of all guests in her home, their behavior. So she should have been checking up on how those dangerous ashes were disposed of. Instead, she gave him ultimate power over the safety of her family. You don’t leave a loaded gun lying around and then turn your back and allow a man you don’t even know very well to do whatever he pleases with it! Yet she did just that. I should add WHILE her kids and parents were sleeping in an old, wooden, sprawling Victorian home three flights up without working smoke detectors. Yeah, hard to muster up sympathy for that. Oh, and although I’ve said this 2,399 times – showing up arm-in-arm at the funeral with Borcina in front of the grieving father was disgusting.

    2. Francis Ford says:

      Deborah I agree with what you say about their “tight looking” appearance at the funeral. I am saying (I am “hoping” actually) that she might have dumped him since or that maybe her remaining family and friends have ever tried to warn her to stay away from him now? I sincerely hope so for her sake. Time will certainly tell.

  23. Francis Ford says:

    I would not be the first to say that maybe the house was torn down so quickly after the fire so that no one could sue, say, the buildings department of Stamford for wrongdoing. And who knows where Borcina fit in with all that or didn’t fit in.

    1. Suzette says:

      Many comments about the thug on this site, some from people who know him:

      http://fandaily.info/slider/michael-borcina-madonna-badger-constructor-and-friend-who-survived-fire-at-her-stamford-home/#comments

      Check out the photos of her house before he “renovated” it to cinders. It didn’t need renovating at all…

      1. Francis Ford says:

        Thanks for the link Suzette. I just went and read the comments there
        (!!!!!!!!!!!!!!) OY. OY.
        As for the original house it was simply gorgeous! A dream house! But I do understand that so many new owners do want to change up the interiors after they buy a house. Some of that original furniture and carpeting was ugly in my opinion and “IF” I had the money I’d change it up too.
        Also people want their new house “their own”. Of course you need $$$ to do this.

        1. Suzette says:

          Thanks, Francis. The point is, his “renovation” involved more than just switching carpets, furniture, or knocking out a couple of walls.. This was a major overhaul. The house was uninhabitable by all accounts, and the family shouldn’t have been living there! Also, the balloon type construction used in this home hasn’t been used in many years due to safety concerns. The so-called contractor must have known that, and at the very least, should have installed working smoke detectors to give the occupants a fair chance for survival in a fire!

          1. Francis Ford says:

            Suzette I agree with all these points above. The family should not have been there and B. knew it. I wonder if he didn’t have some connections “downtown” in the Stamford permits department? As for the night of the embers, I keep thinking alcohol or drugs must have been involved on Christmas eve. Many people drink/party too much on that night. Otherwise we get back to it being a deliberate action on his part.

            1. Suzette says:

              Exactly.

        2. NYC10009 says:

          To me, it was a creepy looking house to begin with. Of course, I’m judging only from the photographs, but that’s the vibe I get. Looks like it would have been haunted, and now it most definitely is.

          1. NYC10009 says:

            Oops, for a second I forgot it was torn down. Wishful thinking, since then they would have found evidence of what most of us have suspected all along.

  24. Francis Ford says:

    The father of the girls, Matthew Badger ,now has his own site up at http://friendswholovematt.com/
    “Friends who Love Matt”.

    This info has been posted on the “Support Madonna Badger and Family” page.

  25. Deborah Jeffries says:

    You’re right Suzette. How she can look at him every day after all that’s happened is baffling. Frances, I was watching my cable news tonight and that fire happened in a Greenwich mansion a few days ago caused by improperly discarded fireplace embers. UNBELIEVABLE!

    1. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says:

      he does her doggie style now so she cant see him

    2. Francis Ford says:

      deborah as i said below to suzette: in all fairness does anyone actually know her current status with him? or her current status in general? or his?

  26. Deborah Jeffries says:

    You’re right they are both responsible I was just saying he has been described as hot tempered and a control freak. Some of the most intelligent women have fallen prey to men like this. I feel sorry for a woman so under a man’s spell like that, but it doesn’t offset her role in the tragedy.

    1. Suzette says:

      I hear what you are saying, but I would be surprised if Bager was a victimized woman. It may be that theirs was the most shallow of stories. He showered her with (false) flattery, and she dug his thuggy ways and strapping bod. Perhaps it is as simple as that!

    2. Francis Ford says:

      Another fire reported with improperly discarded embers! jeesh
      These embers were even “hosed down”. I will never look at embers the same in my life and I dont even own a fireplace!
      http://newcanaan.patch.com/articles/improperly-discarded-embers-cause-greenwich-house-fire

      1. Suzette says:

        Francis, glad you posted this link, as well as the link (above), where people can send condolences to Matthew Badger.

        Regarding the article on this latest fire in Greenwhich, discarding embers in boxes, or in any non-metal, open container, is a dangerous practice! To anyone with a wood buning fireplace, please heed these words from the investigating fire marshal:

        “There is no immediate need to clean a fireplace,” Natale said. Embers can remain hot for several days. “I do not clean my fireplace every time I use it,” he added.

        1. Suzette says:

          It is worth mentioning that the person responsible for the Greenwich fire was a member of the household’s domestic staff. According to the article, he put the embers in a box then disposed of it in the garage, away from the main house, where he thought it would cause no harm, evidently. He was not a contractor, who is supposed to be knowledgable about fire safety, and he did not leave the box lying against an interior wall of an old, wooden house. Big difference. Dangerous all the same.

    3. Jayne Marquit says:

      I agree.

  27. ace11 says:

    People are not going to want to hear this BUT

    She is responsible for this as well as he IS….

    She brought him into her families life

    This was a tragedy that should have benn prvented

    1. Suzette says:

      That sums it up.

  28. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says:

    Borcina gives new meaning to the song Light My Fire by the Doors..

  29. Deborah Jeffries says:

    We can speculate and opinionate all we want. It’s a national news story and discussing it is our free speech right. Don’t like it, GET LOST!!

    1. xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx says:

      clearly it was poor taste for this mother to be bonking this guy in the same house with her children and her parents.I blame it all on MTV and Liberalism which is a mental disorder ..God has spoken

  30. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Francis, thanks for providing the info on his business site. If only he was that meticulous and professional in how he handled burning fireplace coals, five people would still have the benefit of waking up every day and living.

  31. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Borcina responsible? Absolutely. But why haven’t news outlets who always go for the throat to get a story, probed his criminal history? Strongly doubt his record is clean and when you’re talking about five dead by a fire that he started, criminal history is of extreme importance.

    1. Suzette says:

      I wonder if anyone is investigating that character.

  32. anya says:

    a blog for a high end construction company….really?

    1. Francis Ford says:

      “About Tiberias

      Demonstrating excellence in both service and craftsmanship from its inception, Tiberias Construction was founded in 2005 by President Mike Borcina and has grown to become one of Fairfield County, CT and NYC’s most respected general contracting firms.

      Offering comprehensive interior renovation, millwork and finishing services, Tiberias sets its standards high, emphasizing attention to detail, efficiency and flawless execution. We are committed to doing every job right and making sure each client’s experience is a pleasant and satisfying one.

      Catering to very discerning clientele—a veritable who’s who in finance, business, fashion and entertainment—Tiberias knows there is little margin for error and expectations are great. From cost management and scheduling to expert handling of each project’s intricacies, daily challenges are met with confidence. No matter how complicated the problem, solutions are always found. With more than two decades of experience, over 800 jobs successfully completed and a portfolio that reveals an exceedingly high level of skill and artistry, Tiberias Construction has established a standard of excellence in high-end restoration and construction that remains unsurpassed.

      Tiberias Construction

      Restoring Homes with Passion and Integrity for over 30 years.”

      1. Suzette says:

        I think the above glowing piece about his unlicensed company can be taken with a grain of salt, since he likely was the one who wrote it.

  33. Sad situation. says:

    Even if this man is not criminally responsible for the deaths, he is responsible either due to his reckless behavior or his negligent behavior.

    1. Suzette says:

      Agree.

  34. Deborah Jeffries says:

    I find myself feeling sorry for Madonna. Most of us at some point were in a controlling abusive relationship. He kills her entire family, and she clings to him. It happens to the smartest of women.

    1. Suzette says:

      Deborah, you have changed your view of her? I relate to the quality of compassion, and that is a fact. But the disturbing thing about Madonna Badger is that she had everything and recklessly threw it all away with both hands by getting tangled up with the wrong man. Women who stay with abusive men – and we have no way of knowing if this describes Borcina, or not – often stay, because they feel trapped in some way. They may feel trapped financially, or in the cases where they lve in the lap of luxury, or are comfortable, the money isn’t theirs, in that iit is controlled by the man. She knows that if she leaves him, he will “cut her off,” and then what will she do? How will she support her children, particularly if she has few job skills and no family support? Madonna Badger obviously didn’t have that problem. She was the wealthy one in this doomed duo, and he (Borcina) apparently was a moocher. She possessed financial power, not him. True, she may have sunk a small fortune into the colossal mess that he apparently made of the renovations to her house, but as an experienced forty-something year old business executive, surely she would have known how to extricate herself from that, and fire him. If not, she could have called one of her lawyers to handle it for her. There is a second dynamic where a woman stays with an abusive man because she lacks self-esteem. She may be a masochist craving the drama that goes along with the abuse, equating it with “love,” which it is not, of course. Does this describe Badger? Somehow, this seems doubtful, given her high-powered identity in the field of advertising/marketing, where manipulation is the primary component. She didn’t amass wealth by letting people run over her emotions. And, it seems unlikely that she would enjoy chaos in her private life, much less have the time to engage in it. A third dynamic is the woman who sticks with abuse, because she wants to “save” her abuser, to be HIS “knight in shining armor”, if you will, to rescue and mold him into a fine, upstanding person. It never works, of course. Was Badger clinging to Borcina with a misguided fantasy to save him? Who knows, but if she is a bona fide narcissist, and that seens to be the case, her relationships are all about HER, not about being someone else’s savior. Whatever was going on in her head is a mystery, obviously, but evidently she had a pretty wonderful life. She got involved with the wrong man, who may simply be a garden variety creep, and this proved to be fatal. That she would cling to him now, after he wiped out her whole family, is incomprehensible, really.

      1. Francis Ford says:

        suzette how do we know she is even still with him? maybe she has distanced from him by now…even for legal reasons?

      2. Whatever says:

        You forgot to mention the fourth dynamic. That’s a woman who spends her days analyzing and re-analyzing people she has never met.

        Get a hobby or do some volunteer work! Surely your time could be better spent!

        1. Suzette says:

          Oh, look. It’s another ignorant troll on the prowl.

    2. Whatever says:

      So you have some kind of inside knowledge that this was a “controlling abusive relationship?” Do tell…how do you come by this knowledge? Oh, I see…adding little unsubstantiated morsels is just part of your bizarre obsession with this story.

      Wow…some people need to get a life!

      1. Suzette says:

        You seem to have a lot of anger festering inside of you. You have been spewing on cold threads, as well. So, which friend of Madonna, or the arsonist, might you be? Or, are you just a devoted, nasty fan?

        1. Whatever says:

          I don’t know these people, and neither do you. Why don’t you leave the investigating to the police and do something useful instead of spewing your own anger and unfounded accusations here? Oh never mind…this kind of thing is probably your entire life.

          1. Suzette says:

            You don’t know them? HA! Here’s a news flash for you: This is a public forum, where people have a right to voice their opinions. Since you don’t like that, I suggest you pack up your matches and GO!

    3. NYC10009 says:

      Hi Deborah,

      You’re right, yet so many women outgrow their “bad boy” phase by the time they leave high school, or at least early adulthood. But Badger obviously did not, and she’s middle-aged. And what’s more distressing, showing up at the funeral with him arm-in-arm makes me think that this latest “bad” behavior by him makes her feel even closer to him.

      I think maybe she saw her “girl tribe” as little dolls for her amusement. Narcissists do that – see people as objects. “My whole life is in there” she shouted to the firemen. And Deborah, you made great earlier points about that makes it hard to tell if she’s talking about her Blackberry or her family. Bizarre. I’d want to be as clear as possible to firemen if my entire family were trapped in a burning house, and let them know EXACTLY who is inside. Not make it a self-referential statement about ME and losses to my ego.

  35. anya says:

    Who is this guy really? I tried to read his business website….None….I don’t know where everyone gets their info.

    1. Cherry says:

      He’s the president of Tiberias Construction, which was doing renovations on Madonna Badger’s home. Evidently, Mrs. Badger started dating him some time after the renovations began.

      1. Francis Ford says:

        “Restoring Homes With Passion and Integrity for Over Thirty Years” (Tiberius)

  36. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Francis and Suzette, your observations about the coverage as you know Suzette I am a Stamford resident and Francis you are correct that if this was in a different neighborhood, the media would be probing Borcina’s criminal past. I live on the West Side of Stamford which is very different than the opulent Shippan Point area Badger is from. Lot’s of crime and poverty on my end of town. Why haven’t reporters asked for a criminal report? It’s a public record and if he has one, it just thickens the plot more.

    1. Francis Ford says:

      Deborah I am wondering if the anyone might be afraid of probing Borcina for any reasons? Where I come from contractors, developers, real estate brokers, and local politicians often “sleep together”.

      1. Justice For The Victims says:

        Stereotyping the vowel on the end of his last name is not intended here, but there was a poster on another thread who couldn’t help but wonder if he is “connected.”.

  37. Suzette says:

    Deborah, about his possible criminal past, I am livid! You know, the media goes after certain people like a pack of rabid animals, when it suits their purposes, yet they have taken such a gentle, laissez faire view of the Badger fire, along with the many valid suspicions surounding it, and whatever criminal secrets may be lurking in the boyfriend’s past. Shame on them.

    1. Francis Ford says:

      Suzette I agree there’s a big standard going on here. In another neighborhood they’d be all over this story very differently.

      1. Suzette says:

        Very true. In a way, this case reminds me of the Jon Benet Ramsey case.

  38. Deborah Jeffries says:

    I don’t know Suzette, perhaps no. 7 is true. Right she definitely didn’t set it that’s for sure. He had plenty to gain with the lives lost, kids are out of the way and no future in-laws to deal with. And if he lied about trying to save the kids, what else is he hiding? She is in a vulnerable and needy state now a perfect time for him to be her knight in shining armor.

    1. Francis Ford says:

      Yes the knight in shining armor, Deborah, only how long will that fairy tale last? Time will tell. I wonder where this investigation will go. Why do they keep bringing up the smoke detectors? Don’t they already know the answer? Why does this simple question take so long?

    2. Anne says:

      # 2 and # 7 scenarios go hand in hand…

    3. Suzette says:

      Wasn’t it reported that he had brain tumor several years ago? Maybe he has no impulse control, as a result of that, and suddenly thought it would be kicks to start a fire in her house. Maybe he and the socialite had a falling out and he wanted to teach her a lesson. Or, this was an insurance scam that went horribly wrong. Or,maybe he simply wanted to get her family out of the way. Of course, all of that goes to possible motive, and it is hard enough to theorize on which one of them actually did it.

      1. Whatever says:

        He suddenly “thought it would be kicks to start a fire in her house”…okay, that makes sense (not). Ever consider the possibility that IT WAS JUST A STUPID ACCIDENT? Guess not…it isn’t titillating enough.

        1. Suzette says:

          People aren’t buying that a man who calls himself a contractor could be THAT dumb. Not if he was sober, that is. And using that minimizing phrase “just a stupid accident,” to excuse an inferno that wiped out five lives, is sickening beyond belief.

          1. Whatever says:

            People = you and a few other whackos. There’s no excuse for his stupidity, but stupidity is a far cry from arson or premeditated murder. I can’t believe anyone would even suggest the latter…it’s insane.

    4. Whatever says:

      Are you kidding?? He might be stupid (since disposing of the embers the way he did was incredibly stupid), but aren’t you going just a little overboard with your ridiculous “knight in shining armor” theory?? He’s going to spend half a year renovating a house and then burn it down on Christmas morning in order to get rid of three little girls and their grandparents – exactly WHAT is the “plenty” he had to gain??

  39. Anne says:

    Well now I am wondering: this Michael character is supposed to have said that he tried to lead two of the little girls downstairs, but they got loose… They got loose?? How??????? Was he taking a leisurely stroll with the little kids trailing along? When I look at photos, he seems to be a big strong man, and the girls are small and thin… So I wonder: why didn’t he grab one kid under each arm?? He could have walked much faster that way, and they couln’t have escaped! And may be they would have survived!

    There are so many “foggy” stories here… I do hope there is a really thorough investigation. For the sake of these FIVE dead people!

    1. Cherry says:

      I was thinking the same thing. I remembered my grandfather, when he saw a tornado coming, he collected one kid under each arm and headed for the basement. The news coverage of Borcino’s “heroic” deed made me mad because it didn’t make any sense.

    2. Suzette says:

      Exactly, Anne. If he really was close in distance to them, as he claimed, he could have grabbed both of them! They were wee girls, but he is a tall, strapping goon, judging by those pictures at the funeral..

  40. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Suzette, impeccable list of scenarios! I agree with Francis and go with number two. I still have the nagging feeling there is something sinister about his actions. I was down on Badger for not dumping this thug, but I think she’s in an incredibly vulnerable state that he is taking FULL advantage of which makes me continue to question whether he caused this accidentally or intentionally. He is one piece of work.

    1. Francis Ford says:

      Deborah I agree he’s a piece of work. A killer? I am not so sure but I could be wrong as I often am!. But a piece of work? No doubt about it. I feel for her (M) ans yes, she is so vulnerable right now and because he looks capable of massive deception to my eyes.

  41. Francis Ford says:

    My second choice is #6: they were both drunk.

  42. Francis Ford says:

    I think alcohol is likely a part of this.

  43. Francis Ford says:

    Number 2 is my choice

    1. Suzette says:

      Agree, Francis. Sadly, I also think #4 and #7 can’t be ruled out. Maddening that we may never know the truth.

  44. Cherry says:

    I don’t believe Borcina’s story either; and the comments he has made to the press are ridiculous – such as, we are trying to stay positive, and we are going to be ok. This is not an “oops” situation. He should be apologizing all over himself for doing what he did.

  45. Deborah Jeffries says:

    The boyfriend who knowingly threw flaming coals into a paper bag and tossed them away in the mudroom. He started the fire either to get rid of the heirs hoping to marry his rich catch or an insurance scam then he marry his rich catch. Either way, no one is that stupid to do what he did (he’s a college grad as is the mother) unless he intended to have a fire start. Just had to clarify that.

  46. Deborah Jeffries says:

    And though I think Borcina is most culpable in this tragedy, I’m not letting Ms. Socialite off the hook because her intellect should have led her to ask questions and use better judgment. Both of them were responsible but I will say that Badger was extremely negligent, but I think with Borcina’s experience as a contractor not only should he have known better, it’s a question of was it an intentional act on his part.

    1. Suzette says:

      Hi Deborah. I just found this thread in the listings. I was still on the other thread, posting away. I agree, both are responsible for those five lost lives. The severest punishment should be thrown at the head of the one who actually disposed of the embers, but the other should be incarcerated, as well. Both share culpability. These seem to be the possible scenerios:

      1. Borcina tossed the bagged embers against the wooden house, innocently
      not realizing they would ignite the house. He called himself a contractor,
      so no.

      2. Borcina tossed the bag, but he was impaired by alcohol and/or drugs.
      Possible, but this still would be Criminal Negligence.

      3. A sober Madonna Badger tossed the bag against the wooden house, too
      stupid to realize they would ignite. Highly unlikely, given her education, etc.

      4. Madonna Badger disposed ot the embers while stoned and/or drunk.

      5. Badger and Borcina pooled sub-normal IQs and tossed the bag together.
      Ready, set, go! I don’t think so.

      6. They staggered to the mudroom together, both heavily impaired by drink
      and/or drugs. One tossed the bag against the house, and both were too
      wasted to care.

      7. Borcina set the fire deliberately all by himself.

      Badger deliberately could have set the fire herself, but it seems to me she would not have wanted all of her possessions to go up in flames. But, who knows?

      1. barbidoesmiami says:

        How dare you, who do you think you are? Posts like this only show the sordid state of your mind and bear now relevance on reality. This is about where you are at in your dark life, with no respect or love for your family, children, if you have any. Are dead parents an advantage in your life? And to those who agree with you? All sick puppies with dark thoughts and lives, speaking for themselves…

        1. Suzette says:

          Struck a nerve, did I? Maybe you should try feeling some of that outrage for the five innocent victims.

          1. Helen says:

            Your obsession with this case goes beyond what is normal Suzette. I have read this thread in complete disbelief. You need to stop this. You are exposing more about yourself than about Badger and Borcina.

            1. Suzette says:

              And which pal of the family might you be, Helen? In case you haven’t noticed, the majority of people on this site, and on numerous other websites, are posting similar opinions about Badger and Borcina. Yet, your comment singles me out, suggesting that I must have said something so true to make you squirn iin your chair. Intimidation tactics are stupid and ineffective, Helen. So, why not pause and think about the five innocent victims? Have a nice day.

              1. Helen says:

                As I said, you are exposing more about yourself than you are about anyone else.

            2. NYC10009 says:

              Helen:

              Your own lack of compassion for the victims is what’s very telling, as well as trying to silence those of us who are expressing our understandable outrage. Our position is no different from investigators who also have concerns for the truth. I have read YOUR comments in complete disbelief at not only what a control freak you are, but how you can have such a cold heart.

              1. Suzette says:

                Thanks, NYC. You nailed that one!

              2. Helen says:

                Leave Madonna Badger alone. It is clear she is in horrendous pain and this is none of your business. Some of you here – the obvious ringleaders – remind me of a lynch mob. Anyone who questions your actions here on this thread, such as myself, Whatever and barbidoesmiamim, is verbally attacked. As I said, you are exposing more about yourselves than about anyone else.

                1. NYC10009 says:

                  @Helen: Many drunks who “accidentally” kill innocent people while driving drunk are in “horrendous pain,” yet the law deems they must be held accountable in order to prevent such horrific tragedies from happening again and save lives in the future. That’s why there’s a little something called Negligent Homicide that hopefully both Badger and her sociopath BF, Borcina, will eventually be charged with. Why don’t we keep our heads buried in the sand like you do? The more the truth comes out, the less the chances of this sort of stupidity happening in the future.

                  So I have two words for you, Ms. Control Freak: Free Speech. Oh, and two more: Fvck off.

        2. Whatever says:

          I couldn’t agree more…sick puppies is an understatement!

  47. Deborah Jeffries says:

    Anya, this guy is a sociopath who started a fire that killed five people, made up a story that he tried to save them when he really left them to die and managed to get his conceited , self absorbed backside ou safely. This man is trash that belongs in jail for five counts of manslaughter.

  48. anya says:

    Who is this guy really?

    1. Cherry says:

      anya,
      Evidently he’s Mrs. Badger’s boyfriend. He is also the contractor in charge of renovating Mrs. Badger’s house.

  49. Deborah Jeffries says:

    The events couldn’t have occurred the way Borcina told investigators. He said he was leading the children out of the house on the second floor stairs, but the heat and flames drove them back up to the third floor. Then how was he able to get out with no burn wounds and the heaviest damage was on the third floor. If his story was true, it would mean they were running toward the fire. Why did he lie? To look like a hero and take the focus off the fact he started the fire, saved himself and left everyone else on their own to die.

    1. check the facts says:

      I totally agree with all you have said. There is more that meets the eye to this story.

    2. Suzette says:

      I wonder if he did encounter the girls that night, but they were afraid of him for some reason, so they ran. Just as likely, he fabricated a story about trying to save them in order to stay in Ms. moneybag’s good graces, as you said.

      1. barbidoesmiami says:

        Who is fabricating stories here? What do you know? Were you there? Have you ever been in their situation? Do not tempt fate with your righteousness, but for the grace of god it could be you….

    3. Francis Ford says:

      I agree this sounds very weird Deborah.

  50. Deborah Jeffries says:

    It’s about time and the word accidental I find ludicrous. I wonder what else is hiding in that thug killer’s criminal past. He had the interview at his lawyer’s office, so it seems that he may have hopped and skipped down the criminal road before. JAIL THE KILLER!!

    1. barbidoesmiami says:

      Witch hunt, good thing it is not up to you!

      1. Catherine Gamito says:

        Hey, Borcina, get a job! Oh wait, never mind…

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