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Stamford Fire Investigation Continues; Police Interview Michael Borcina

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Stamford Fire Family

Lomer and Pauline Johnson, Lily Badger and twins Grace and Sarah Badger (credit: CBS 2).

STAMFORD, Conn. (CBSNewYork) – The investigation continues into the deadly Christmas Day fire that killed three young sisters and their grandparents in Stamford.

Sources tell CBS 2 News that Michael Borcina was interviewed Monday night by Stamford police in his lawyer’s office.

Borcina and homeowner Madonna Badger were the only survivors of the blaze.

Investigators believe Borcina may have accidentally started the lethal blaze by placing fireplace embers in the mudroom of the Victorian-style home.

Officials said Borcina jumped out of the building and told firefighters that he had led the children down to the second floor. However, the heat of the blaze had apparently driven the children and grandparents back up to the third floor.

Badger’s parents, Lomer and Pauline Johnson, and her three daughters, 9-year-old Lily and 7-year-old twins Sarah and Grace, were killed.

All of the victims died of smoke inhalation. Lomer Johnson, 71, also suffered blunt trauma to the head and neck.

Johnson had stepped out onto the roof of the home and fell through the rafters to the ground below. Investigators say he spent his last moments trying desperately to save his grandchildren.

Badger was interviewed by police last week.

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  • Deborah Jeffries

    You’re right they are both responsible I was just saying he has been described as hot tempered and a control freak. Some of the most intelligent women have fallen prey to men like this. I feel sorry for a woman so under a man’s spell like that, but it doesn’t offset her role in the tragedy.

    • Suzette

      I hear what you are saying, but I would be surprised if Bager was a victimized woman. It may be that theirs was the most shallow of stories. He showered her with (false) flattery, and she dug his thuggy ways and strapping bod. Perhaps it is as simple as that!

    • Francis Ford

      Another fire reported with improperly discarded embers! jeesh
      These embers were even “hosed down”. I will never look at embers the same in my life and I dont even own a fireplace!
      http://newcanaan.patch.com/articles/improperly-discarded-embers-cause-greenwich-house-fire

      • Suzette

        Francis, glad you posted this link, as well as the link (above), where people can send condolences to Matthew Badger.

        Regarding the article on this latest fire in Greenwhich, discarding embers in boxes, or in any non-metal, open container, is a dangerous practice! To anyone with a wood buning fireplace, please heed these words from the investigating fire marshal:

        “There is no immediate need to clean a fireplace,” Natale said. Embers can remain hot for several days. “I do not clean my fireplace every time I use it,” he added.

        • Suzette

          It is worth mentioning that the person responsible for the Greenwich fire was a member of the household’s domestic staff. According to the article, he put the embers in a box then disposed of it in the garage, away from the main house, where he thought it would cause no harm, evidently. He was not a contractor, who is supposed to be knowledgable about fire safety, and he did not leave the box lying against an interior wall of an old, wooden house. Big difference. Dangerous all the same.

    • Jayne Marquit

      I agree.

  • ace11

    People are not going to want to hear this BUT

    She is responsible for this as well as he IS….

    She brought him into her families life

    This was a tragedy that should have benn prvented

    • Suzette

      That sums it up.

  • xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

    Borcina gives new meaning to the song Light My Fire by the Doors..

  • Deborah Jeffries

    We can speculate and opinionate all we want. It’s a national news story and discussing it is our free speech right. Don’t like it, GET LOST!!

    • xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx

      clearly it was poor taste for this mother to be bonking this guy in the same house with her children and her parents.I blame it all on MTV and Liberalism which is a mental disorder ..God has spoken

  • Deborah Jeffries

    Francis, thanks for providing the info on his business site. If only he was that meticulous and professional in how he handled burning fireplace coals, five people would still have the benefit of waking up every day and living.

  • Deborah Jeffries

    Borcina responsible? Absolutely. But why haven’t news outlets who always go for the throat to get a story, probed his criminal history? Strongly doubt his record is clean and when you’re talking about five dead by a fire that he started, criminal history is of extreme importance.

    • Suzette

      I wonder if anyone is investigating that character.

  • anya

    a blog for a high end construction company….really?

    • Francis Ford

      “About Tiberias

      Demonstrating excellence in both service and craftsmanship from its inception, Tiberias Construction was founded in 2005 by President Mike Borcina and has grown to become one of Fairfield County, CT and NYC’s most respected general contracting firms.

      Offering comprehensive interior renovation, millwork and finishing services, Tiberias sets its standards high, emphasizing attention to detail, efficiency and flawless execution. We are committed to doing every job right and making sure each client’s experience is a pleasant and satisfying one.

      Catering to very discerning clientele—a veritable who’s who in finance, business, fashion and entertainment—Tiberias knows there is little margin for error and expectations are great. From cost management and scheduling to expert handling of each project’s intricacies, daily challenges are met with confidence. No matter how complicated the problem, solutions are always found. With more than two decades of experience, over 800 jobs successfully completed and a portfolio that reveals an exceedingly high level of skill and artistry, Tiberias Construction has established a standard of excellence in high-end restoration and construction that remains unsurpassed.

      Tiberias Construction

      Restoring Homes with Passion and Integrity for over 30 years.”

      • Suzette

        I think the above glowing piece about his unlicensed company can be taken with a grain of salt, since he likely was the one who wrote it.

  • Sad situation.

    Even if this man is not criminally responsible for the deaths, he is responsible either due to his reckless behavior or his negligent behavior.

    • Suzette

      Agree.

  • Deborah Jeffries

    I find myself feeling sorry for Madonna. Most of us at some point were in a controlling abusive relationship. He kills her entire family, and she clings to him. It happens to the smartest of women.

    • Suzette

      Deborah, you have changed your view of her? I relate to the quality of compassion, and that is a fact. But the disturbing thing about Madonna Badger is that she had everything and recklessly threw it all away with both hands by getting tangled up with the wrong man. Women who stay with abusive men – and we have no way of knowing if this describes Borcina, or not – often stay, because they feel trapped in some way. They may feel trapped financially, or in the cases where they lve in the lap of luxury, or are comfortable, the money isn’t theirs, in that iit is controlled by the man. She knows that if she leaves him, he will “cut her off,” and then what will she do? How will she support her children, particularly if she has few job skills and no family support? Madonna Badger obviously didn’t have that problem. She was the wealthy one in this doomed duo, and he (Borcina) apparently was a moocher. She possessed financial power, not him. True, she may have sunk a small fortune into the colossal mess that he apparently made of the renovations to her house, but as an experienced forty-something year old business executive, surely she would have known how to extricate herself from that, and fire him. If not, she could have called one of her lawyers to handle it for her. There is a second dynamic where a woman stays with an abusive man because she lacks self-esteem. She may be a masochist craving the drama that goes along with the abuse, equating it with “love,” which it is not, of course. Does this describe Badger? Somehow, this seems doubtful, given her high-powered identity in the field of advertising/marketing, where manipulation is the primary component. She didn’t amass wealth by letting people run over her emotions. And, it seems unlikely that she would enjoy chaos in her private life, much less have the time to engage in it. A third dynamic is the woman who sticks with abuse, because she wants to “save” her abuser, to be HIS “knight in shining armor”, if you will, to rescue and mold him into a fine, upstanding person. It never works, of course. Was Badger clinging to Borcina with a misguided fantasy to save him? Who knows, but if she is a bona fide narcissist, and that seens to be the case, her relationships are all about HER, not about being someone else’s savior. Whatever was going on in her head is a mystery, obviously, but evidently she had a pretty wonderful life. She got involved with the wrong man, who may simply be a garden variety creep, and this proved to be fatal. That she would cling to him now, after he wiped out her whole family, is incomprehensible, really.

      • Francis Ford

        suzette how do we know she is even still with him? maybe she has distanced from him by now…even for legal reasons?

      • Whatever

        You forgot to mention the fourth dynamic. That’s a woman who spends her days analyzing and re-analyzing people she has never met.

        Get a hobby or do some volunteer work! Surely your time could be better spent!

        • Suzette

          Oh, look. It’s another ignorant troll on the prowl.

    • Whatever

      So you have some kind of inside knowledge that this was a “controlling abusive relationship?” Do tell…how do you come by this knowledge? Oh, I see…adding little unsubstantiated morsels is just part of your bizarre obsession with this story.

      Wow…some people need to get a life!

      • Suzette

        You seem to have a lot of anger festering inside of you. You have been spewing on cold threads, as well. So, which friend of Madonna, or the arsonist, might you be? Or, are you just a devoted, nasty fan?

        • Whatever

          I don’t know these people, and neither do you. Why don’t you leave the investigating to the police and do something useful instead of spewing your own anger and unfounded accusations here? Oh never mind…this kind of thing is probably your entire life.

          • Suzette

            You don’t know them? HA! Here’s a news flash for you: This is a public forum, where people have a right to voice their opinions. Since you don’t like that, I suggest you pack up your matches and GO!

    • NYC10009

      Hi Deborah,

      You’re right, yet so many women outgrow their “bad boy” phase by the time they leave high school, or at least early adulthood. But Badger obviously did not, and she’s middle-aged. And what’s more distressing, showing up at the funeral with him arm-in-arm makes me think that this latest “bad” behavior by him makes her feel even closer to him.

      I think maybe she saw her “girl tribe” as little dolls for her amusement. Narcissists do that – see people as objects. “My whole life is in there” she shouted to the firemen. And Deborah, you made great earlier points about that makes it hard to tell if she’s talking about her Blackberry or her family. Bizarre. I’d want to be as clear as possible to firemen if my entire family were trapped in a burning house, and let them know EXACTLY who is inside. Not make it a self-referential statement about ME and losses to my ego.

  • anya

    Who is this guy really? I tried to read his business website….None….I don’t know where everyone gets their info.

    • Cherry

      He’s the president of Tiberias Construction, which was doing renovations on Madonna Badger’s home. Evidently, Mrs. Badger started dating him some time after the renovations began.

    • Francis Ford
      • Francis Ford

        “Restoring Homes With Passion and Integrity for Over Thirty Years” (Tiberius)

  • Deborah Jeffries

    Francis and Suzette, your observations about the coverage as you know Suzette I am a Stamford resident and Francis you are correct that if this was in a different neighborhood, the media would be probing Borcina’s criminal past. I live on the West Side of Stamford which is very different than the opulent Shippan Point area Badger is from. Lot’s of crime and poverty on my end of town. Why haven’t reporters asked for a criminal report? It’s a public record and if he has one, it just thickens the plot more.

    • Francis Ford

      Deborah I am wondering if the anyone might be afraid of probing Borcina for any reasons? Where I come from contractors, developers, real estate brokers, and local politicians often “sleep together”.

      • Justice For The Victims

        Stereotyping the vowel on the end of his last name is not intended here, but there was a poster on another thread who couldn’t help but wonder if he is “connected.”.

  • Suzette

    Deborah, about his possible criminal past, I am livid! You know, the media goes after certain people like a pack of rabid animals, when it suits their purposes, yet they have taken such a gentle, laissez faire view of the Badger fire, along with the many valid suspicions surounding it, and whatever criminal secrets may be lurking in the boyfriend’s past. Shame on them.

    • Francis Ford

      Suzette I agree there’s a big standard going on here. In another neighborhood they’d be all over this story very differently.

      • Suzette

        Very true. In a way, this case reminds me of the Jon Benet Ramsey case.

  • Deborah Jeffries

    I don’t know Suzette, perhaps no. 7 is true. Right she definitely didn’t set it that’s for sure. He had plenty to gain with the lives lost, kids are out of the way and no future in-laws to deal with. And if he lied about trying to save the kids, what else is he hiding? She is in a vulnerable and needy state now a perfect time for him to be her knight in shining armor.

    • Francis Ford

      Yes the knight in shining armor, Deborah, only how long will that fairy tale last? Time will tell. I wonder where this investigation will go. Why do they keep bringing up the smoke detectors? Don’t they already know the answer? Why does this simple question take so long?

    • Anne

      # 2 and # 7 scenarios go hand in hand…

    • Suzette

      Wasn’t it reported that he had brain tumor several years ago? Maybe he has no impulse control, as a result of that, and suddenly thought it would be kicks to start a fire in her house. Maybe he and the socialite had a falling out and he wanted to teach her a lesson. Or, this was an insurance scam that went horribly wrong. Or,maybe he simply wanted to get her family out of the way. Of course, all of that goes to possible motive, and it is hard enough to theorize on which one of them actually did it.

      • Whatever

        He suddenly “thought it would be kicks to start a fire in her house”…okay, that makes sense (not). Ever consider the possibility that IT WAS JUST A STUPID ACCIDENT? Guess not…it isn’t titillating enough.

        • Suzette

          People aren’t buying that a man who calls himself a contractor could be THAT dumb. Not if he was sober, that is. And using that minimizing phrase “just a stupid accident,” to excuse an inferno that wiped out five lives, is sickening beyond belief.

          • Whatever

            People = you and a few other whackos. There’s no excuse for his stupidity, but stupidity is a far cry from arson or premeditated murder. I can’t believe anyone would even suggest the latter…it’s insane.

    • Whatever

      Are you kidding?? He might be stupid (since disposing of the embers the way he did was incredibly stupid), but aren’t you going just a little overboard with your ridiculous “knight in shining armor” theory?? He’s going to spend half a year renovating a house and then burn it down on Christmas morning in order to get rid of three little girls and their grandparents – exactly WHAT is the “plenty” he had to gain??

  • Anne

    Well now I am wondering: this Michael character is supposed to have said that he tried to lead two of the little girls downstairs, but they got loose… They got loose?? How??????? Was he taking a leisurely stroll with the little kids trailing along? When I look at photos, he seems to be a big strong man, and the girls are small and thin… So I wonder: why didn’t he grab one kid under each arm?? He could have walked much faster that way, and they couln’t have escaped! And may be they would have survived!

    There are so many “foggy” stories here… I do hope there is a really thorough investigation. For the sake of these FIVE dead people!

    • Cherry

      I was thinking the same thing. I remembered my grandfather, when he saw a tornado coming, he collected one kid under each arm and headed for the basement. The news coverage of Borcino’s “heroic” deed made me mad because it didn’t make any sense.

    • Suzette

      Exactly, Anne. If he really was close in distance to them, as he claimed, he could have grabbed both of them! They were wee girls, but he is a tall, strapping goon, judging by those pictures at the funeral..

  • Deborah Jeffries

    Suzette, impeccable list of scenarios! I agree with Francis and go with number two. I still have the nagging feeling there is something sinister about his actions. I was down on Badger for not dumping this thug, but I think she’s in an incredibly vulnerable state that he is taking FULL advantage of which makes me continue to question whether he caused this accidentally or intentionally. He is one piece of work.

    • Francis Ford

      Deborah I agree he’s a piece of work. A killer? I am not so sure but I could be wrong as I often am!. But a piece of work? No doubt about it. I feel for her (M) ans yes, she is so vulnerable right now and because he looks capable of massive deception to my eyes.

  • Francis Ford

    My second choice is #6: they were both drunk.

  • Francis Ford

    I think alcohol is likely a part of this.

  • Francis Ford

    Number 2 is my choice

    • Suzette

      Agree, Francis. Sadly, I also think #4 and #7 can’t be ruled out. Maddening that we may never know the truth.

  • Cherry

    I don’t believe Borcina’s story either; and the comments he has made to the press are ridiculous – such as, we are trying to stay positive, and we are going to be ok. This is not an “oops” situation. He should be apologizing all over himself for doing what he did.

  • Deborah Jeffries

    The boyfriend who knowingly threw flaming coals into a paper bag and tossed them away in the mudroom. He started the fire either to get rid of the heirs hoping to marry his rich catch or an insurance scam then he marry his rich catch. Either way, no one is that stupid to do what he did (he’s a college grad as is the mother) unless he intended to have a fire start. Just had to clarify that.

  • Deborah Jeffries

    And though I think Borcina is most culpable in this tragedy, I’m not letting Ms. Socialite off the hook because her intellect should have led her to ask questions and use better judgment. Both of them were responsible but I will say that Badger was extremely negligent, but I think with Borcina’s experience as a contractor not only should he have known better, it’s a question of was it an intentional act on his part.

    • Suzette

      Hi Deborah. I just found this thread in the listings. I was still on the other thread, posting away. I agree, both are responsible for those five lost lives. The severest punishment should be thrown at the head of the one who actually disposed of the embers, but the other should be incarcerated, as well. Both share culpability. These seem to be the possible scenerios:

      1. Borcina tossed the bagged embers against the wooden house, innocently
      not realizing they would ignite the house. He called himself a contractor,
      so no.

      2. Borcina tossed the bag, but he was impaired by alcohol and/or drugs.
      Possible, but this still would be Criminal Negligence.

      3. A sober Madonna Badger tossed the bag against the wooden house, too
      stupid to realize they would ignite. Highly unlikely, given her education, etc.

      4. Madonna Badger disposed ot the embers while stoned and/or drunk.

      5. Badger and Borcina pooled sub-normal IQs and tossed the bag together.
      Ready, set, go! I don’t think so.

      6. They staggered to the mudroom together, both heavily impaired by drink
      and/or drugs. One tossed the bag against the house, and both were too
      wasted to care.

      7. Borcina set the fire deliberately all by himself.

      Badger deliberately could have set the fire herself, but it seems to me she would not have wanted all of her possessions to go up in flames. But, who knows?

      • barbidoesmiami

        How dare you, who do you think you are? Posts like this only show the sordid state of your mind and bear now relevance on reality. This is about where you are at in your dark life, with no respect or love for your family, children, if you have any. Are dead parents an advantage in your life? And to those who agree with you? All sick puppies with dark thoughts and lives, speaking for themselves…

        • Suzette

          Struck a nerve, did I? Maybe you should try feeling some of that outrage for the five innocent victims.

          • Helen

            Your obsession with this case goes beyond what is normal Suzette. I have read this thread in complete disbelief. You need to stop this. You are exposing more about yourself than about Badger and Borcina.

            • Suzette

              And which pal of the family might you be, Helen? In case you haven’t noticed, the majority of people on this site, and on numerous other websites, are posting similar opinions about Badger and Borcina. Yet, your comment singles me out, suggesting that I must have said something so true to make you squirn iin your chair. Intimidation tactics are stupid and ineffective, Helen. So, why not pause and think about the five innocent victims? Have a nice day.

              • Helen

                As I said, you are exposing more about yourself than you are about anyone else.

            • NYC10009

              Helen:

              Your own lack of compassion for the victims is what’s very telling, as well as trying to silence those of us who are expressing our understandable outrage. Our position is no different from investigators who also have concerns for the truth. I have read YOUR comments in complete disbelief at not only what a control freak you are, but how you can have such a cold heart.

              • Suzette

                Thanks, NYC. You nailed that one!

              • Helen

                Leave Madonna Badger alone. It is clear she is in horrendous pain and this is none of your business. Some of you here – the obvious ringleaders – remind me of a lynch mob. Anyone who questions your actions here on this thread, such as myself, Whatever and barbidoesmiamim, is verbally attacked. As I said, you are exposing more about yourselves than about anyone else.

                • NYC10009

                  @Helen: Many drunks who “accidentally” kill innocent people while driving drunk are in “horrendous pain,” yet the law deems they must be held accountable in order to prevent such horrific tragedies from happening again and save lives in the future. That’s why there’s a little something called Negligent Homicide that hopefully both Badger and her sociopath BF, Borcina, will eventually be charged with. Why don’t we keep our heads buried in the sand like you do? The more the truth comes out, the less the chances of this sort of stupidity happening in the future.

                  So I have two words for you, Ms. Control Freak: Free Speech. Oh, and two more: Fvck off.

        • Whatever

          I couldn’t agree more…sick puppies is an understatement!

  • Deborah Jeffries

    Anya, this guy is a sociopath who started a fire that killed five people, made up a story that he tried to save them when he really left them to die and managed to get his conceited , self absorbed backside ou safely. This man is trash that belongs in jail for five counts of manslaughter.

  • anya

    Who is this guy really?

    • Cherry

      anya,
      Evidently he’s Mrs. Badger’s boyfriend. He is also the contractor in charge of renovating Mrs. Badger’s house.

  • Deborah Jeffries

    The events couldn’t have occurred the way Borcina told investigators. He said he was leading the children out of the house on the second floor stairs, but the heat and flames drove them back up to the third floor. Then how was he able to get out with no burn wounds and the heaviest damage was on the third floor. If his story was true, it would mean they were running toward the fire. Why did he lie? To look like a hero and take the focus off the fact he started the fire, saved himself and left everyone else on their own to die.

    • check the facts

      I totally agree with all you have said. There is more that meets the eye to this story.

    • Suzette

      I wonder if he did encounter the girls that night, but they were afraid of him for some reason, so they ran. Just as likely, he fabricated a story about trying to save them in order to stay in Ms. moneybag’s good graces, as you said.

      • barbidoesmiami

        Who is fabricating stories here? What do you know? Were you there? Have you ever been in their situation? Do not tempt fate with your righteousness, but for the grace of god it could be you….

    • Francis Ford

      I agree this sounds very weird Deborah.

  • Deborah Jeffries

    It’s about time and the word accidental I find ludicrous. I wonder what else is hiding in that thug killer’s criminal past. He had the interview at his lawyer’s office, so it seems that he may have hopped and skipped down the criminal road before. JAIL THE KILLER!!

    • barbidoesmiami

      Witch hunt, good thing it is not up to you!

      • Catherine Gamito

        Hey, Borcina, get a job! Oh wait, never mind…

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