Senate Rejects Effort To Reverse Obama Birth Control Policy; Republican: ‘This Is Tyranny’

Right Side Of Aisle Vows To Fight On; Is Issue Destined For Supreme Court?

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — The Senate on Thursday narrowly defeated a move to overturn President Barack Obama’s policy on birth control insurance.

It was a highly partisan debate in a presidential election year that raised questions of religious freedom and women’s rights, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.

It was the first attempt by Congress to knock down the president’s policy.

“It will force religious persons and institutions to violate their beliefs or pay a fine. This is tyranny. It is the political bullying of a religious group,” Utah Republican Sen. Orrin Hatch said.

It was a highly charged debate eight months before someone will take on the president for the White House. Senate Republicans siding with the Catholic Church and other religious groups in an attempt to overturn an Obama administration mandate that requires employers to cover the cost of contraceptives — even when their beliefs forbid using them.

“We take it as just the latest attack in what is clearly a concerted Republican effort to attack women’s health care in an election year,” said Sen. Patty Murray, D-Wash.

Democrats argued they were protecting women’s rights. Republicans argued they were attempting to protect the First Amendment right to religious freedom. Both parties used the issue to rally their bases. The 51-48 vote was close, upholding Obamacare … for now.

“The closeness of the vote shows how high the stakes are for women this year. A Republican-led Senate might pass this bill. A Republican president like Mitt Romney would definitely sign it. If Republicans keep this up they’re going to drive away independent voters,” New York Sen. Charles Schumer said.

This issue is not likely to go away. Already lawsuits have been filed challenging the constitutionality of the presidential mandate.

Republicans predicted it will end up in the Supreme Court.

The public is generally in favor of requiring birth control coverage for employees of religiously affiliated employers, according to a CBS News/New York Times poll Feb. 8-13.

The survey found that 61 percent favor the mandate, while 31 percent oppose it. Even Catholics, whose church strongly opposed the recent government mandate, support the requirement at about the same rate as all Americans.

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  1. Sue says:

    That’s right. No longer should we allow organizations to spend their money as they see fit. If the gov’t forces them to purchase services against their beliefs – so what? Birth control can be obtained at planned parenthood or the gyno or clinics for free or around $10 monthly but it’s too much to pay when the money can go to a cell phone bill. This is just the tip of the violations of religion, privacy and freedom the gov’t will impose on you unless you start using your brains and realize the gov’t is not the answer, you are. Independence, freedom to chose. But – I’m speaking to a bunch of brain washed youth so… you’ll understand in another 30 years..

  2. Imani says:

    How many of these men take birth control pills??? What does the pastor or bishop wife do? They are not having kids every year.

  3. felix diaz says:

    I wonder where the bishops got their medical degrees

  4. LeeOz says:

    Dolan seems to be one of those catholic talibans. Can’t we just move all these sick religious nuts on a desert island..

  5. Kyrie Smith says:

    I’m not religious, but I don’t want to pay for anyone’s birth control on any level. It’s wrong of the government to force me to. I don’t hand out condoms when I walk around town. If people want to dig themselves a hole, they need to find their way out of it, not expect tax payers too. Just like smokers.

    1. Can't stand MORONS says:

      You’re an idiot. You know who does hand out condoms for free? Clinics and std testing locations, you don’t have to.. you already “pay” for them. I don’t even have the desire to tear you down, just know this, you are an idiot. I hope you get raped and need to have an abortion because you got pregnant.

      1. LeeOz says:

        Saying ‘I hope you get raped’ is just wrong EVEN if the person is an idiot. You are no better than them.

      2. 1dallstar says:

        and you sound like an animal

        1. dakotahgeo says:

          Sometimes animals HAVE to bite to get dolts’ attentions!!!

          1. Rodin says:

            “[Animals] are blameless, devoid of calculation, neither blessed nor cursed with human motives. They can’t really be held responsible for what they do. But we can.” ~ Jon Katz, Author

    2. Rodin says:

      Please try to understand, YOU are NOT paying for anything and the government, unlike the sexless bishops who want to shove their absurd tenets down everybody’s throat, is NOT FORCING you to do anything. And, if yo want to “hand out condoms when I walk around town,” be my guest. It’s your perfect right under the Constitution, as is the right of every individual you offer them to to refuse or accept your gift. It’s called CHOICE.

  6. Rodin says:

    Keep birth control. Save the nation from another possible Dolan

    1. dakotahgeo says:

      Absolutely right on, Rodin!! Heyyyyyyyy… you being your nasty old self again? lolol. Good to see ya!!! Peace!!! Signed,
      You know who!!!

  7. marylouise says:

    Makes me ashamed to be Catholic.

    1. Dan says:

      Everyone is entitled to their own opinions but not their own facts. You hate what you do not understand and in this case I fear that you hate everything. Live your life as you please and let others live theirs.
      Go ahead and tax the church, close all the parochial schools, shut down all the charity work of the church and watch what happens to you tax bill. The small amount that you would receive from the church would be overshadowed by the expense of filling the void left behind. This country was founded to provide freedom of religion not freedom from religion. By the way, the term “separation of church and state” is not in the constitution.
      Calling people idiots and morons is the resort of the ignorant. Voltaire was an anarchist. He wanted bricks to fall on everyone’s head. Do not bother replying to this I am not interested in the opinion of hateful people

      1. Rodin says:

        “This country was founded to provide freedom of religion not freedom from religion.”

        WRONG! DEAD WRONG!!! Freedom of religion includes, much to the chagrin of people like yourself, the FREEDOM NOT TO BELIEVE. It’s called Freedom of Thought. The establishment clause of the First amendment encompasses all belief: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

        THAT patently includes freedom FROM religion, which many of the Founding Fathers explicitly proclaimed.

        Take your pretentious filth and doctrinaire preferences elsewhere, where your misinformed propaganda will not be given the lie. Otherwise, stay out of the debate.

        My question: Why is marylouise still a Catholic if it shames her? think it through “This country was founded to provide freedom of religion not freedom from religion.”

        WRONG! DEAD WRONG!!! Freedom of religion includes, much to the chagrin of people like yourself, the freedom NOT to believe. It’s called Freedom of Thought. The establishment clause of the First amendment encompasses all belief: Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion.

        THAT patently includes freedom FROM religion, which many of the Founding Fathers explicitly proclaimed.

        Take your pretentious filth and doctrinaire preferences elsewhere, where your misinformed propaganda will not be given the lie. Otherwise, stay out of the debate.

        My question: Why is marylouise still a Catholic? Think it through, marylouise. Think it hard.

        “And what is a good citizen? Simply one who never says, does or thinks anything that is unusual.” ~ H.L. MENCKEN

  8. Erin says:

    This is not a birth control issue it’s a freedom of religion issue. It’s like telling an orthodox Jewish shop owner he has to sell pork. Birth control and abortion are not health care they are a choice just like taking vitamins. Insurance was founded to help defray the cost of illness and injury. Pregnancy is not an illness by definition, but a natural function of the female human body. Religious institutions should not be forced to fund and support things that go against their beliefs. This country is based on freedom, freedom to worship and live as we please. What does Mr. Obama want to take away next?

    1. Rodin says:

      You are right, “this is not a birth control issue,” it’s a freedom FROM religion issue, freedom FROM those who would impose their CHOICE of belief on others.

      It is a freedom of CHOICE issue, a “live as we please.”

      Pregnancy being “a natural function of the female human body,” let each woman deal with HER BODY as SHE CHOSES.

      While pregnancy may not be “an illness by definition”, it does require health care, the kind the man with the white jacket, not the one the man in the red dress and bonnet, offers.

      Religious Institution are NOT being forced “to fund and support things that go against their beliefs.”

      The Church is NOT being told to provide services that go against its beliefs. Your attempted analogy, “It’s like telling an orthodox Jewish shop owner he has to sell pork,” does not apply.

      Religious institutions should be taxed and FORCED to pony up their fair share towards relieving the national debt. Exceptional treatment is endorsement and thus against that First Amendment.

      Mr. Obama is NOT taking away your “freedom to worship”. He is guaranteeing everyone’s “freedom to worship” OR NOT.

      Your very “arguments” — misinformed, misguided, ignorant, irrational, twisted, delusional — defeat your purpose. Each proves faulty and/or false and therefore invalid. Every statement you make can be used against itself, your conclusions all invalidated by faulty premises, false assumptions and lack of logic. Your entire comment is patently irrational.

      Free from religion, good without gØds.

      1. Erin says:

        You need to learn how to read. I’ve seen your responses on other issues and if you can jump on the anti-god bandwagon you will and thats fine. More power to ya. I did not say that pregnancy did not require care by health professionals. Birth control and abortion are a choice. And yes religious institutions are being forced to afford coverage for birth control and abortion services that go against their beliefs. Whether YOU agree with those beliefs or not ,the point is that no one should be forced by our government, yes the one based on freedom, to go against their basic religious beliefs. Don’t be blinded by your anti religion rants look at the big picture. No one is saying women or men cannot choose birth control or abortion. Just don’t force those that don’t support it to provide it. I think people who choose (hey theres that word again) to work for a religious institution should know what to expect.

        1. Rodin says:

          1) You need to learn to think… rationally.

          2) You need to learn to think…for yourself…and stop parroting the blather you’re indoctrinated with so you don’t repeat the same nonsensical garbage ad nauseam like you just did.

          3) Once you’ve done that, YOU need to learn you read… without bias.

          4) Then how to write coherently.

          You offer no arguments in your response, just rehash of what’s already been dismissed as proof against itself. You don’t seem understand the meaning of the word “CHOICE” which you convolute into its opposite to suit your end. Orwell called that “Doublespeak.”

          Atheists are not “anti-gØd” for one rationally cannot be “against” what one doesn’t believe exists. The “godly,” who endlessly proselytize their chosen myths and fantasies against all reason at every nuance they perceive, are another matter altogether, lassie.

          It’s your bandwagon with all the wailings and song and dance of persecution and martyrdom

          READ CAREFULLY:
          “I contend that we are both atheists. I just believe in one fewer god than you do. When you understand why you dismiss all the other possible gods, you will understand why I dismiss yours.” ~ STEPHEN HENRY ROBERTS, Australian historian

          And don’t bother me again with your histrionics, contortions and mental acrobatics.

    2. Sugar Bartokk says:

      Our good friends the RCC and the ACLU are still ushering in circa 10,000 new legal and illegal immigrants every day, setting up lifetime (tax-paid) benefits and housing for them.

      Whose religion is this besides theirs? Who choice? Yours?

      Sugar Bartok aka Ronald (Peanut) Butler

      1. Rodin says:

        Do try to stay on topic. Whether racist or misogynous, bigotry is bigotry.

  9. VY says:

    Lack of availability of birth control aids in the increaseof unwanted pregnancies.
    Unwanted pregnancies are the largest reason for abortions.
    Also, the largest user of birth control is MARRIED women who want to control when and how many children they have.
    And just telling people that we are going to take away your birth control as our attempt to stop women from having sex NEVER works.
    If you are mad that your unmarried female family and friends are having sex, forcing them to risk unwanted pregnancies has been shown to NEVER have worked in the past.

  10. diver says:

    I agree it is a religious issue. If the individual in question does not want this coverage all they need to do is not use their coverage. Everyone else should have the freedom to do as they chose. Despite the recent Supreme Court ruling Organizations and Corporations are not individuals.

  11. CSI says:

    If people cant get birth control on there own maybe they shouldnt be having intercourse. People take responsibility and stop waiting for things to be handed to you.

    1. dan says:

      It isn’t being handed to them. These people are paying insurance premiums.

      1. Rodin says:

        But, do we really care about FACTS?

        “People seem to be offended by facts, or what used to be called truth.” ~ Francis Bacon

  12. dakotahgeo says:

    Get the Catholic dictators out of politics! If they don’t abide by the law, cancel their Medicare/Medicaid privileges! No federal money for them at all!

    1. GiGi says:

      The Catholic church is only asking that THEY not be forced to provide coverage for services that go against their beliefs. They cannot control the private sector and they are not trying to. You people voted this socialist into power please wake up and get him out before he wittles away at more freedoms.

      1. Rodin says:

        Dako, why do I bother with this horde? I feel like John crying in the desert.

        More histrionics, denial, convolutions, Doublespeak, parroting from the paranoid and delusional mythologists!

        The Church is asking for exceptional treatment. It is THEY and always they who would force their their ridiculous, diseased tenets on anyone with a different world view. They are historically the Crusaders and Inquisitors, the burners of heretics and apostates. It’s that Church that formed alliances with Hitler, Franco and Mussolini. The messengers bringing their obscenities to the heathen.

        It is the Church who demands special treatment while not contributing their fair share to the relief of the national debt in taxes.

        As to your asinine “socialist” jab, mindless sloganeering., more unexamined parroting. You wouldn’t know a socialist if he crossed you wrapped in a red flag and singing the Internationale.

        “Mankind can never be free until the last brick in the last church falls on the head of the last priest.” ~ Voltaire

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