Fallout Continues From NYPD Muslim Student Group Monitoring

Muslim Community Meets With NJ Officials To Discuss Garden State's Response

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — A group of law students rallied against the tactics of the NYPD’s secret surveillance program of Muslims on Saturday, calling it racist and unjustified.

Dozens of protesters with the Fordham Law Muslim Students Association picketed outside a university alumni association luncheon at Cipriani’s on Wall Street to make their voices heard.

“It’s wrong to profile a specific race or a specific religion or a specific group of people for the acts of a few,” said one demonstrator. “That’s not the way to go about saving the country from terrorism.”

“It’s a violation of my civil rights, it’s a violation of every single New Yorker’s civil rights,” said another.

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Chanting “No justice, no peace! No racist police!” and waving signs, the protesters called for Police Commissioner Ray Kelly to step down. Kelly was appearing at the luncheon as a guest speaker.

“We know that while the vast majority of Muslim student associations and their members are law-abiding, we have seen too many cases in which such groups were exploited,” he said.

“He should be forced to resign if there’s public outcry,” said one woman.

“What I want to see is the NYPD protecting us, not profiling us,” said another.

Princeton native and Roosevelt Island resident Muhammad Ali Naquvi joined the protesters because he feels this is their civil rights movement.

“Martin Luther King said that progress doesn’t come without struggle and this is our struggle,” he said. “We’re getting together with people who have been a part of this sort of brutality for decades and we are just experiencing it and it makes us feel empathetic for our fellow Americans who have been a part of this and it’s time for it to stop.”

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Meanwhile, in New Jersey, Muslim leaders, state and federal officials discussed the Garden State’s response to the NYPD’s program. They met with state and federal law enforcement officials for nearly three hours in Trenton, saying they hope the state attorney general will announce a formal investigation into the matter.

Aref Assaf, the head of the Paterson-based American Arab Forum says he hopes the meeting will go beyond merely discussing relationships between Muslim residents and law enforcement in New Jersey, which traditionally have been positive.

The NYPD’s surveillance of New Jersey’s Muslim community has generated a firestorm of controversy. Gov. Chris Christie blasted Commissioner Kelly and the NYPD for behavior he suggests is arrogant, paranoid and dangerous. Newark Mayor Cory Booker has also spoken out against the program.

“This is the New York Police Department. I know they think their jurisdiction is the world, their jurisdiction is New York City,” Christie said earlier this week.

report released last month shows the NYPD kept tabs on Muslim businesses and mosques in New Jersey and on Long Island.

But Mayor Michael Bloomberg has said the surveillance is justified.

“To say that the NYPD should stop at the borders is a bit ridiculous,” Bloomberg said Friday. “We have to be right every single day, we have to be perfect and the terrorists only have to be right once.”

Rep. Peter King, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee, also supports the surveillance and lashed out at Christie on WCBS 880 on Friday.

“I don’t know what Gov. Christie is talking about. Back in 2007 and 2008 when the initial foray was for the NYPD into Newark, he wasn’t even the governor then and as far as him being U.S. attorney again, it’s up to the police department in Newark to tell him what it wanted to,” King said. “The NYPD did what it was supposed to do.”

Booker said on Thursday that since learning of the NYPD’s efforts to monitor the community, some Muslims in the city had become afraid to pray in mosques.

And while politicians have their war of words, the spying has outraged Muslim residents in New Jersey.

“The sad part is that Bloomberg is totally condoning the idea of spying on innocent people,” said Mohammed Elfiali of the Islamic Center of Passaic County. “It’s outrageous.”

“It alienates us as Americans. We have to look over our shoulder, we have to say we’re Muslims and yet we’re helping law enforcement and we’re trying to do all these things and yet here again is another example of betrayal,” said Nadia Kahf from CAIR, New Jersey. “We don’t know how far reaching it is and that is one of the reasons we’re asking for the investigation.”

“It is nothing concrete, nothing specific. Like I said, they are understanding and there are promises for getting to the bottom of it and for me that is more than enough,” said Mohamed Younes, president of the American Muslim Union.

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  3. Jb04668 says:

    These people protesting are dumb as dirt so their saying 9/11 doesn’t justify surveillance. The should go occupy wall street while the’re at it.

  4. Internment Camps should be considered. says:

    Some Italians are Criminals because the Mafia is an Italiian Crime Syndicate
    .
    Some Irish are Terrorists because the IRA is an Irish Organization.

    Some Muslims are Terrorists because most of the Terrorist Strikes against us are from Fanatical Members of the Muslim Religion.

    The three groups above have had some of their members watched, surveilled and been the subject of police investigation.

    Why do the Muslims think they are special and protest our law enforcement agencies that are keeping us safe from all three.

    1. Get it right. says:

      Great point!! If you are not breaking the law, why worry about being watched?

      There are many other examples of this, but the Muslim People only worry about themselves. Why?

    2. I see a Muslim run says:

      All Muslims in USA should wear tracking bracelets on ankle.That way we can keep a closer eye on these Terrosit.Great job Ray Kelly and Gov Christie is not being as vocal about this as white house put a a gag on him.

      1. Abdullah says:

        As a Muslim, an American citizen, and a U.S. Army veteran, I would like to let you know that I personally detest you.

        1. Abdullah says:

          Oh, and as for your example-some terrorist organizations (IRA) receive funding from congressman (Peter King).

          I guess not all terrorist are created equal, despite the fact that the IRA has killed Americans in the past while blowing away Brits.

          Collateral damage I guess.

          Youtube search Peter King speaking at pro-IRA events. It’s a nifty lesson in political hypocrisy.

  5. vince a says:

    Want justification for the NYPD surveilance that has so many up in arms? Just read the story below by CBS from last year. Then tell me the NYPD and Peter King are wrong.

    “He was a terrorist on the radar – from Long Island all the way to al Qaeda.

    Two Americans, one being Anwar al-Awlaki, leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, and a 25-year-old extremist from Westbury, were zeroed in on and killed last week in a sensational U.S. drone attack.

    Stunned residents remember the extremist killed in the strike as a former neighbor who “fit right in.” He lived in the area for 10 years with his parents, brother and sister, and attended a local mosque before terrorism investigators say they discovered Samir Khan had turned traitor. They say he was obsessed with his radical faith and hatred of the U.S.

    Khan, who graduated from W.T. Clarke High School in East Meadow, played some football and loved video games, but after 9/11 drastically changed, according to his yearbook inscriptions, calling himself a “Muslim engaged in jihad,” who wants to go overseas and study … subjects that deal with Islam.” He also included a religious saying: “If you give Satan an inch, he’ll be a ruler.”

    “It’s upsetting to know your next-door neighbor can be a nice guy and the next day he’s a terrorist,” Melissa Stawkowski told CBS 2′s Jennifer McLogan”

  6. vince a says:

    Want solid justification for the NYPD surveilance that has so many up in arms? Just read the story below by CBS from last year. Then tell me the NYPD and Peter King are wrong.

    “He was a terrorist on the radar – from Long Island all the way to al Qaeda.

    Two Americans, one being Anwar al-Awlaki, leader of al Qaeda in the Arabian Peninsula, and a 25-year-old extremist from Westbury, were zeroed in on and killed last week in a sensational U.S. drone attack.

    Stunned residents remember the extremist killed in the strike as a former neighbor who “fit right in.” He lived in the area for 10 years with his parents, brother and sister, and attended a local mosque before terrorism investigators say they discovered Samir Khan had turned traitor. They say he was obsessed with his radical faith and hatred of the U.S.

    Khan, who graduated from W.T. Clarke High School in East Meadow, played some football and loved video games, but after 9/11 drastically changed, according to his yearbook inscriptions, calling himself a “Muslim engaged in jihad,” who wants to go overseas and study … subjects that deal with Islam.” He also included a religious saying: “If you give Satan an inch, he’ll be a ruler.”

    “It’s upsetting to know your next-door neighbor can be a nice guy and the next day he’s a terrorist,” Melissa Stawkowski told CBS 2′s Jennifer McLogan.

  7. vince a says:

    Racist and unjustified?

    This is not a matter of racism or voilation of constitutional rights. This is a matter of national security!

    If those that oppose public servants doing their job to protect good Americans, (Menendez, Booker, the NYCLU, etc.), perhaps they need to leave the United States and move to a country that is more accomodating and protective of its citizens! Damn good luck finding one.

    Commissioner Kelly, as HHSC Chairman Peter King said last week, deserves a medal for his good work.

    1. Jim says:

      If it’s a matter of national security, then the constitution doesn’t apply.

      And since the U.S. protects constitutional rights more than other countries, government policies should go unchallenged.

      Does that sum it up for you? Or do you have any nuance to your argument that I’m missing?

  8. sk says:

    I say the same thing about college liberals! once these law students become lawyers they will be the ones prosecuting the moslem group and will forget about defending them!

  9. Rob says:

    Sometimes the truth hurts. Too much P.C. If the protesters don’t like the way we do things here in the US. leave. Try protesting back in the Middle East. NYPD is protecting me and the protesters. GREAT JOB NYPD.

  10. caleb goldfarb says:

    The foul dogs of Satan (Prince of the Muslims) must be eradicated for all eternity.

  11. The Realist says:

    If they claim to be AMERICANS, then they should do what REAL AMERICANS do… SUE the City to recover their monetary losses.

  12. LET'S GET REAL IN NYC says:

    Whatever the merits of the Muslim protests (and I have my doubts of their validity), why are these people allowed to protest while red blooded Americans protesting financial abuses and social equality problems have the crap beat out of them, pepper sprayed down their throats, and worse! Americans have the constitutional right to protest peacefully…if police can’t maintain their part of the bargain being peaceful, then the should have their police asses thrown in jail!!

  13. storm west says:

    NEWS FLASH! Very few americans respect muslims or islam. Most Americans fear their outrageous beliefs and culture both here and abroad. This is not due to Ray Kelly or the NYPD, but due to so many instances of muslim violence and self destructive behavior.

    1. Mike Hanna says:

      You are right storm west, Muslim people rape their women about every minute like here in the US. You are right, Muslim people have illegitimate children every minute like here in the US. You are right, Muslim leaders rape children like Catholic priests do every day. Good going storm west.

  14. Tim says:

    It is perfectly fine for police to give special attention to groups of people known to be problematic. This is the case with African-Americans in certain neighborhoods, Hispanics in certain neighborhoods, white supremacists, white collar crime areas, ad infinitum. If a certain people group is known to be especially problematic let’s watch them extra carefully. This is not racism. This is common sense and needs to be.

  15. Tim says:

    It is perfectly fine for police to give special attention to groups of people known to be problematic. This is the case with African-Americans in certain neighborhoods, Hispanics in certain neighborhoods, white supremacists, white collar crime areas, ad infinitum. If a certain people group is known to be especially problematic let’s watch them extra carefully. This is not racism. This is common sense.

  16. Space Camp says:

    There is no need to accept foreign students from Muslim countries because they can now obtain their degrees on-line. If they don’t want to become Astronauts then their species will perish.

  17. M.A.D says:

    If the tables were turned, what would the muslim community do??? If its the same thing, then do not complain.

    1. Rashad says:

      I’m a muslim, I have seen NYPD unmarked cars here in New Haven, CT with official biz cards on dash board. If all they are doing is hanging out on public websites I don’t see a problem with it. When they start to looking in to personal emails and hacking websites without warrants then we have a problem and everyone should be concerned about.

      1. M.A.D says:

        News Flash, everyone’s emails and websites are being looked into by individuals outside of the US and the US. BIG BROTHER IS WATCHING!! Get used to it!!! You should be more concerned about those whose only interest is to steal identities.

  18. Alan says:

    Fordham MUSLIM LAW STUDENTS, an oxymoron if I ever heard one. Now if you want to say MUSLIM SHIAH LAW STUDENTS thats different.

  19. chris says:

    I was working there, there were about 20 people protesting outside, if that…. they looked like professional protestors to me…. this is a bs article, the NYPD deserves medals for what they do

    1. lol says:

      lol – either you weren’t there or you don’t know how to count. Watch the video before you comment

      1. chris says:

        I did. That was the height of the protestors. And they were no more than one-or two deep. Look at the video close. It was a very thin group. Just a few professional protestors with no one else to complain about on a saturday

  20. The Facts says:

    There is only one race: the human race. All our differences are merely cosmetic and cultural. Time to grow up and move on. Enough of the tribalistic whining!

    1. Charlie says:

      Perfectly put, thank you!!!!

  21. The Facts says:

    There is only one race: the human race. All differences are cosmetic and cultural Time to grow up and move on. Enough of the tribalistic whining!

  22. Captain Obvious says:

    The police have been watching Italian social clubs in Brooklyn for years. Why? Because there are Italians there. So where are all the protesters? Why don’t Italian Americans protest this?

    I am an Italian American and I hope the NYPD and the FBI wipe out organized crime. It makes our culture look bad. So why no cries for Kelly’s resignation from Italian Americans?

  23. Amtracmarine says:

    Maybe they’d prefer the “Stop And Frisk” BS that other minorities put up with.

  24. tom says:

    i think NY is right musllims are a terrorist group and you need to keep an eye on them and if they dont like it leave the country

  25. Steven from Brooklyn says:

    Ray Kelly & NYPD deserve rewards. Don’t these fordam girls know that Muslims want to kill them for how thye live. The igorence is amazing.

    1. Nik says:

      “igorence”? That’s rich, idiot.

      1. Charlie says:

        Nice name calling, Nik. Takes a man to call someone names from behind their monitor……..

  26. DOUBLE_CHINNED_PUPPETEER says:

    These protestors should be kept under surveillance as well as muslims. We are at war with Islam and it is absolutely necessary.

    1. go NYPD says:

      AGREE 100% Ray Kelly is doing great job at war on terroism.you can never be to careful.Hope they are watching people protesting carefully

  27. The Realist says:

    If they consider themselves to be AMERICANS, then they should do what REAL AMERICANS do… SUE the City to recover their monetary losses.

  28. American_Citizen_05 says:

    Keep letting political correctness rule how we live and see what happens. Too many people complain in this country. The Muslims that are complaining in front of Fordham won’t leave this country. That is because they are all getting a free education and health care in this country. We need to elect a new president who will stand up to Muslims and Liberals to set a new tone in this country. One day political correctness will end.

  29. Dillon says:

    Make the world a better place, punch a hippie in his f*c(ing face

    1. jay Pee says:

      @ Dillon, that was very well said. And additionally every Muslim should be eyeballed intensely. Frig them

  30. Very conservative says:

    1. Rugbyball says:

      This DAMN cbslocal.com website keeps refreshing so often. You can’t even watch this video before it refreshes. Is this 1999 where you have auto refresh on the websites!?! CBS Turn this damn auto refresh off already!!

  31. Alice says:

    Mr. Rough and Tough Christie caved to the muslim rants for political purposes, what a GUY.

  32. Persona says:

    They should go back to their Muslim countries and we see how much protesting they would do . They will be dead by now and by the way if u Christian u won’t just surveillance u . You probably be executed in their country,so step off it is for the protection of the future generations of normal people .

  33. Derek says:

    Remember 9/11

  34. Ready, Set CRAP! says:

    I THINK GOVERNOR CHRISTIE IS FAT AND MIKE BLOOMBERG IS GAY.

    1. jay Pee says:

      @ Ready, Set Crap-Ditto

  35. Sluggo says:

    Christie and Booker are out of touch with reality. They feel intimidated. The NYPD walked in and uncovered issues in their own back yard..

  36. Linda says:

    Isn’t it something how the muslims are always DEMANDING something. Well, we Americans are DEMANDING a safe and free America like we used to have and not have to look over our shoulder all the time. Why are these people not in their own country fighting for and building up their country instead of bringing their whinny demands to our Country. This BS is going to keep up until Americans rise up and have a revolution, we will fight for our Country as they should be doing in theirs.

    1. will says:

      well said, Linda

    2. Anne says:

      Well said Linda, thank you!!! The reason they’re here is obvious, kill as many
      AMERICANS as they can.

    3. LET'S GET REAL IN NYC says:

      Bravo, you state what I have stated over and over. Bless you! I am so happy that my beliefs are not alone out here:)

  37. AL says:

    if they are doing nothing wrong then what are they upset with

  38. John says:

    Well, Muslims are the only faith who are engaged in terrorism around the world. For them to claim outrage over this surveillance is ridiculous. First condemn the terrorists in your own mosque and faith, then condemn others who naturally seek to protect their societies against these heinous activities. I have nothing against Muslims or Islam, but America needs to protect itself using surveillance methods that are aimed at the root of the problem (and not at searching grannies, little children and the like at airport security). Please!

  39. PETE says:

    The question is, has Christie become a mustard Muslim? I believe that his vote-getting is developing into treason on the American People. What a guy!!

  40. The MaD HaCkER says:

    Is ANYONE simple enough to think that big brother is not watching?

    1. Anne says:

      What have you been SNorTiNg, SmOkInG, or INjeCTiNG you MoROn.

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