NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) – Archbishop Timothy Dolan is calling for efforts to make abortions in New York City “rare.”

Dolan gathered with other religious leaders on Thursday to draw attention to the city’s high abortion rate. The city health department last month released statistics that showed 39 percent of pregnancies ended with induced termination in 2009.


“I re-affirm Cardinal John O’Connor’s promise of a quarter-century ago that every woman facing a difficult pregnancy will be provided with free, confidential help of the highest quality from the Archdiocese of New York,” said Archbishop Dolan.

While the numbers have declined in the last decade, the religious leaders said they are still too high.

In 2009, there were 225,667 pregnancies in the City with 126,774 resulting in live births and 87,273 resulting in abortions. In addition to those abortion numbers, there were 11,620 spontaneous terminations.

Forty-six percent of all pregnancies in the Bronx result in abortions—the highest among the five boroughs, according to the report.

Blacks had the highest number of abortions with 40,798 with Hispanics having the second highest at 28,364, according to the report.

In response, the Chiaroscuro Foundation, a non-profit organization that supports alternatives to abortion, pledged that it will spend $1 million in 2011 to address the City’s abortion rate—nearly double the national average of 23 percent.

“Like it or not, the legality of abortion is a settled question in New York for the time being,” said Greg Pfundstein, executive director of the Chiaroscuro Foundation. “That doesn’t mean we have to accept the fact that in parts of the city nearly half of all pregnancies end in abortion.”

Dolan said the practice is unlikely to end but that it was important ‘to tell people what is happening’ and help pregnant women come to terms with their choices.

“We are prepared to do everything in our power to help you and your unborn baby to make absolutely certain that you need never feel that you have no choice but an abortion,” Archbishop Dolan said.

The Wall Street Journal reports that the religious leaders also criticized public schools sex education programs that include condom distribution.

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Comments (738)
  1. Stan says:

    Overpopulation leads to wars. Wars over resources, land, water, and other stuff we keep using, but unable to replace. Responsible family planning could replace abortions.
    I’d vote for baby licensing. If you want to have babies, you must first prove that you are both mentally and financially capable of becoming a good parent.
    This would take care of overpopulation, and we could enjoy the Earth for a little longer.
    Or we can choose to multiply like rats, and soon be treated like them.

    1. Debra says:

      Really? So since people who become disabled are a burden on society, should we just kill them too? Downs Syndrome, Alzheimer’s, those becoming a Quadriplegic, etc.

      What a sick & twisted mentality.

    2. twoiron says:

      Stan, so why don’t we punish all the little old ladies and mean old codgers for that war and pollution and kill everyone over 70 instead of those innocent little babies?

    3. Ben says:

      Or we could control our borders, keep out the rifraf who hate what this country was founded on. Then, our country wouldn’t be overpopulated by these “unwanted” children. There are so many people unable to have children that they go overseas just to have a baby of their own.

  2. Goldenfoxx says:

    I’m against abortion, but all those abortions if carried to full term, would end up on welfare rolls – the taxpayer will pay for them. Consider how many of them would be born with AIDS, or drug addiction, and the taxpayer paying for treatment. It’s obvious that these women were not fit to be mothers in the first place. I believe it should be mandatory that any woman who uses abortion as a form of birth control, should be permanently sterilized. JMHO.

  3. Debra says:

    Just explain the horrific abortion procedures to a Liberal except change it from a baby to a puppy ….. maybe then they’ll get it

  4. Tom says:

    I replied earlier to Tim. The reply shouls have been to you regarding liberals/progressives profound lack of knowledge about where babies come from..

    Tim also doesn’t realize there are thousands upon thousands of families wanting to adopt for one reason or another.

    1. anywoman says:

      How many have YOU adopted, Tom?

      And about the children of the poor…

      Do you begrudge the salaries of their public school teachers?
      Do you begrudge the food stamps and WIC they require?
      Do you begrudge them their Medicaid?
      Do you begrudge them their public housing allowances?
      Do you begrudge the salaries of child welfare workers who investigate reports of sexual and physical abuse?

      Conservatives want there to be lots of unwanted, poor children, but they don’t want them to have food, housing, education, medical care, or protection from abusive parents.

      1. Debra says:

        So since Animal Shelters are over-crowded, should we just kill all the innocent animals too?

        LIBERAL MENTALITY – You deserve life in prison if you harm an animal, Protect Death Row Inmates, Hug those beautiful trees, don’t dare put water in a terrorist’s face ………. but by God, it’s perfectly fine to mutilate a baby.

        Sick & Twisted Freaks

      2. Joe says:

        Anywomen – I’m not in favor of any abortion. why won’t you answer my question – and that is: why were you not aborted? I can tell you why I was not aborted. Again…perhaps that a tough one for you. Your title does not suit you – I don’t believe that you represent “anywomen”

      3. Brad D says:

        Pro-Slavers used the IDENTICAL argument against Abolitionists … “You abolitionists want to free black slaves, but none of you are willing to house or feed them, so you’re hypocrites, blah blah blah”. Spare us your sanctimonious drivel.

      4. Tom Bigley says:

        Would you agree that a turtle egg houses a turtle fetus the same way a human houses a human fetus?

        And yet – if I am starving to death – and consume a turtle egg – I go to jail.

        Welcome to progressive America – where unborn turtles are protected while unborn humans are murdered.

      5. Tom says:

        You need to change your screen name. It would imply that anywoman has the same attitude ideology about abortion as you.

        You know you are in a very small minority.

        Do you begrudge personal responsibility?

      6. twoiron says:

        I can’t speak for Tom, but I adopted one…a beautiful redheaded girl who knows her Lord Jesus Christ and is about to start her PhD program in chemistry. I am glad her mom loved her enough to NOT kill her before she got the chance you and I both did.

      7. Joe says:

        anywomen – it’s okay to cry. I too understand why you were not aborted. It’s never wrong to be right and this may be the place for you to go ahead and admit that you were wrong, and that it’s okay to love life enough to allow the innocent to live – such as you were loved and given life.

  5. Derek says:

    In any society where a mother can kill her own child, you have to ask the question: is anyone safe?

    1. MFIREBRAND1 says:

      The answer is no.

  6. RedStateRon says:

    Of course, it is bad….abortion; the only bright side of the story is that there are less liberals produced and a lesser number to move to the traditionally red states to corrupt our governments.
    Never have understood how the progressives and liberal democrats have been for reducing their numbers.

    1. rogue wave says:

      They intend to continue to increase their numbers by courting illegals and
      muslims – 2 groups which reproduce like rats. (also remember the voting dead)

  7. Melissa says:

    How about not getting pregnant in the first place and using a different form of birth control instead of abortion?

    1. Tim says:

      The article explained that religious leaders don’t like sex education programs that distribute condoms. So much for ‘birth control’!!

      1. Jay says:

        Have you ever heard of Natural Family Planning? That is the correct form of birth control…

  8. Ron B MPLS says:

    “that thy blood was shed for thee” So much needless death………..

  9. Mel. says:

    I have had abortions and I have given 2 children up for adoption. Of course the adoptions were the less selfish acts. It amazes me that pro-abortionists women never want to discuss adoption….

    1. Annie says:


      What a great thing, that you gave your children life and allowed them to be adopted.

      How compassionate you are. I wish more were like you.

  10. Chad says:

    Bad Journalism.. after spending hours looking for the report itself.. I finally discovered that the report is about TEEN pregnancies and has nothing to do with pregnancies overall. Namely, the abortions correlate with lower incomes and a lack of healthcare.

    1. Randy says:

      Chad – I am so sorry I just clicked on “Report Comment” thinking it said “Comment” there is nothing wrong with your comment, except for the fact that there are a lot of people who want to be parents who will pay for a woman to have her baby instead of aborting it….and that is rarely considered by many women who abort.

    2. rvastar says:

      [Namely, the abortions correlate with lower incomes and a lack of healthcare.]

      Since one can get free or extremely cheap condoms on just about every block in NY city, your contention that “lower incomes and a lack of healthcare” are responsible for the unwanted pregnancies that lead to abortions is risible. Actually, abortions correlate with a lack of personal responsibility, on numerous levels…yet another gift from our “progressive” culture.

    3. reading is fun says:

      Actually, it’s obvious you didn’t read it at all. It’s a report on all NYC’s vital stats- not just pregnancies. Well I DID just read the whole report and the part about abortion covers all age brackets. The 40% abortion rate is the average for ALL ages. Below 25, there are actually more abortions than live births. And for just teens the rate is 65%. How did you “spend hours” looking at the report and miss this? It’s all on pages 86-88.

  11. Joe says:

    anywoman – why weren’t you aborted?

    1. anywoman says:

      snicker snicker, Joe!

      Are you in favor of aborting the children of liberals, then?

      1. Joe says:

        Anywomen – I will answer your question, even though you will not answer mine. I’m not in favor of any abortion. why won’t you answer my question – and that is: why were you not aborted? Perhaps that a tough one for you. Your title does not suit you – I don’t believe that you represent “anywomen”

  12. Maureen says:

    Mother Teresa said, the fruit of abortion is nuclear war.’ Yes, disrepect for human life will no doubt have blowback for mankind. How horriific that the new Governor of NY first sought approval from a radical abortion group-NARAL. Cureses will abound for NY unless he changes his heart and soul.

    1. Maureen says:

      Mother Teresa’s quote was, “The fruit of abortion is nuclear war.”
      The last sentence should read: Curses will abound for NY…

  13. Luke says:

    Progressive Texans moved here from NYC based on my observations. We’re getting taken over by these people from California and NY who think we should all live like they do. If it was so great where they came from why don’t they move back? It’s because their ideologies created the nightmare they are fleeing.

    1. mary lane says:

      Next we will have post birth abortion !!!!! What a great country we live in. No rights for the least of these, pre borns, infants, and elderly. Congratulations

    2. Steven Clark says:

      Spot on! These progressives leave thses states because of high taxes, poor public services, corruption, etc and then move on to new states and vote the same way.

    3. Maureen says:

      These people are like one who is known as ‘the destroyer’ -satan. They endorse all immorality and excess. There is a trail of destruction in their path just like satan’s.

    4. Derek says:

      I moved to Texas from NJ to escape this stuff. And I didn’t for it when I was there and I don’t vote for it here. I was a stranger in a strange land when I was there, and now I’m home.

  14. bazgo says:

    My view, supported by the comments here, is that this is a hotly debated issue that is very emotional. Since we live in a country that values freedom and individuality, we need to leave these decisions (and their emotion consequences) to the individual women. When there is a debate, I think this country should err on the side of personal freedom.

    1. twoiron says:

      Easy for you to say. You aren’t about to be aborted.

      1. yobaby says:

        so, if i want to go an murderous rampage, you would support me? you mean we have laws against murder?! well, there goes my personal freedom…shucks!

        you and i both know there is right and wrong…if not, then let the people do whatever their hearts and minds desire…i am ALL for freedom, but NOT at the cost of another human’s life.

    2. Michael says:

      Consider this:
      When an appropriationist chooses to releive you of your property on the basis of their personal belief that no one should own property, what do you do?
      The fact is your rights end where another person’s rights begin.
      So what is it that magically transforms the unborn tissue into a child, medically speaking?
      You and anywoman are so confused.

    3. jhofmann says:

      Men have the “choice” to treat women with dignity. Women have the “choice” to respect themselves. When they do so, the result is a beautiful marital embrace which is open to life. When men & women exercise their “freedom” and use sex for their own selfish entertainment, there is a good chance they will be left with this “emotional” decision to either bring the result of their irresponsible behavior into the world or kill it. Abortion is the result of a series of bad choices fueled by society’s “contraceptive” mentality which puts self above all else, including new life. The result of this and the “sexual revolution” is over 50 million babies murdered, an epidemic of STDs among our teens, and an increased risk of mental and physical health problems for post abortive women. But we should all turn away and wring our hands since, after all, it’s their choice. How selfish.

      1. Robin says:

        Thank you. Couldn’t say it better myself.

  15. Salharmonic says:

    Fewer liberals, what’s the big deal?

    1. skippythedog says:

      There should be easy abortion – in fact if a woman has a child who is already on welfare, she should not be able to have another one until she can prove that the taxpayers will not be stuck with the child.

    2. Dave says:

      “Fewer liberals, what’s the big deal?”

      That’s a trick. It’s still the slaughter of the innocent lives — one of Evil’s favorite past times. So by expressing those sentiments and allowing the Left the “choice” of aborting themselves slowly out of existence (as tempting as it seems) — we become like them. It’s a simple trick, that shouldn’t work.

  16. Matthew Herren says:

    One does not need to have religious conviction to be appalled by these numbers. Whether you are pro or con on the abortion issue…. long term psychological effects and physical risks are common… and at the very least I think most would agree that obviously having this procedure is something that should be avoided if at all possible

    Sexually Transmitted Diseases are also at staggering numbers in New York City. Clearly, healthy sexual practices are not being used and it is something that the citizenry there should want to address

  17. “So let’s work together to reduce the number of women seeking abortions by reducing unintended pregnancies, and making adoption more available, and providing care and support for women who do carry their child to term.”

    Ask the fetuses how that hopy changy thing is going

    1. doc says:

      As a PhD scientist I have a real problem squaring this circle. One woman pees on a pregnancy stick and is over-joyed that she’s having a baby. Another woman pees on a stick, finds out she’s pregnant and gets an abortion. How is it that one is a baby and another is not?

      1. Mike says:

        Well. First of all, as a PhD scientist (in something other than theology, right?) you should know that the terminology is fetus.

    2. Dave says:

      The ONLY way to get the far-left to care about the individuals they’re killing — is to give those individuals the right to vote.

  18. excelsion says:

    When your children have no future, you will abort. It is the same in every progressive/socialist culture. It is a culture of death that will extinguish itself.

    It was no different in the old soviet union.
    It is no different in Europe, they are replacing themselves with Africans and South Indians.
    American liberals states are replacing themselves with Latinos and Asians

    1. Mike says:


      Progressives just recruit from the breeders. It doesn’t take much usually.

    2. twoiron says:

      All children have a future. All have the potential to be whatever they want to be and to become a blessing to their Creator. What else is there but hope?

  19. Religion Clouds Us says:

    I see quite a few people are enjoying the view from their high horses.

    1. sal says:

      It is called right vs. wrong.

      1. Really Donk? says:

        You are talking about perceived right and wrong. You “know” it’s wrong because that’s how you “feel”. Just like I “know” it “feels” wrong to bring a child into this world knowing that it isn’t going to be given the love and attention a human being needs to properly develop.

      2. Larz Blackman says:

        People who want to pretend that it’s ok to kill a child are delusional. It’s not about feelings, but if you can’t feel it either, you border on sociopathic status.

      3. Just who the hell are you? says:

        People who make morality decisions for everyone aren’t delusional?

        Just who the hell are you?

  20. Jeff C says:

    Working on the number the health department put on on births per year in NYC, that works out to about 172,000 murders, I mean abortions a year.. Sheesh, concentration camps in Germany wished they had those kind of #’s..

  21. Tom Foster says:

    I dont see how anyone cannot see this as murder. It’s a baby, your child, if you wait you’ll get to hold it in 9 months. I’m not overly religous but this is just common sense as well, its murder.

    1. ProgressiveTexan says:

      There is a point in time before an embryo has a central nervous system, before it can feel, before it is self aware, that I find it very difficult to lable it a ‘person’. After that point it’s a different story. The problem is that there isn’t a distinction between the two in public conversation.

  22. anywoman says:

    Don’t like abortion? Don’t have one. And leave your so-called “religious” beliefs out of it. In the West, abortions were practiced right up until “quickening” until the middle of the nineteenth century with no controversy whatsoever. It was only when women began to exercise their individual freedoms (to vote, to own property, to divorce abusive husbands) that the “anti-abortion” movement was created. Why? To keep women bound to men and subservient. And “religious” beliefs were invoked then, as now, as justification.

    Your God ends where my womb begins.

    1. L. Alotta says:

      Don’t like murder? don’t murder anyone, but let those who don’t mind kill who they want. Keep your beliefs to yourself!!

      1. anywoman says:

        Oh snap! You totally changed my mind!

        Except not. Because a woman’s right to choose abortion is constitutionally protected. Unlike your example of murder.

        Don’t like that fact? Move to Iran, where your views on women’s rights will put you in the majority instead of the minority.

        Your airing of your beliefs on an Internet comments page, followed with an admonition to me to “keep [my] beliefs to [my]self[,]” deserves no comment.

      2. Michael Puerling says:

        what if I want to kill YOU?

      3. CC says:

        @ L.Alotta- when you son gets murdered by street thugs …just smile and say oh well obviously they believed in murder and you didn’t and after all who are you to “judge”.

    2. Mike says:

      Actually I think their god ends a lot sooner, but hey.

    3. Matthew Herren says:

      One does not need to have religious conviction to be appalled by these numbers. Whether you are pro or con on the abortion issue…. long term psychological effects and physical risks are common… and at the very least I think most would agree that obviously having this procedure is something that should be avoided if at all possible

      Sexually Transmitted Diseases are also a staggering numbers in New York City. Clearly, healthy sexual practices are not being used and it is something that the citizenry there should want to address.

    4. Tk says:

      Thanks for referring to the most innocent among us as an instrument of subjugation for women. Your “feminism”, aka justification for being irresponsible, makes my head hurt. I need to get some fresh air.

      1. anywoman says:

        Reading comprehension matters. The anti-abortion movement has the goal of subjugating women. Not babies. I have no problem with a wanted baby. What I have a problem with is a politician deciding he can FORCE me to have one.

        And “irresponsible”? Do you mean that women who have sex deserve to have to bear a baby because of it? What if she uses protection and gets pregnant anyway? Is that being “irresponsible”? What if the man (who ALSO had sex) leaves her? Was she “irresponsible”? Oh, DO explain your views.

    5. Tim says:

      Big thumbs up, anywoman!! Well stated!

      1. mike says:

        Taking care of an infant is more of a chore, and expense, than carrying a pregnancy to term. And that born infant is totally dependent on the mother’s care. Does that mean that mothers should have the legal right to murder their born infants? That’s the implication of EveryWoman, who is a very sick woman.

      2. Tim says:

        I support anywoman’s stand on the side of freedom to ‘choose’ whether to have a child or not. What right does the government, let alone religous establishments, have in forcing a woman to keep her pregnancy? If these entities can force people to do this, then there is no telling what else they’ll want a woman to do with her body, regardless of the conditions. It’s best to leave this as a personal decision. If you don’t agree with abortion, then that’s your decision. And, if someone believes they should terminate, then that’s their “decision”.

    6. Anna says:

      anywoman – I’m also curious… have you ever wondered why you weren’t aborted?

      1. Tim says:

        If she were aborted, she wouldn’t be around to think about it, now would she? Seems kind of pointless, don’t you think?

    7. Larz Blackman says:

      Your spin on history is irrelevant. Furthermore, just because some judges saw it as constitutionally protected doesn’t make it right. It comes down to recognizing the inherent value in human life, understanding right from wrong on a very basic level, and accepting responsibility for one’s actions. I hope your heart softens and mind opens to these ideas.

      1. anywoman says:

        Well, Larz, “just because some judges saw it as constitutionally protected” DOES make it MY CHOICE. Whether or not you think I ought to exercise it is not relevant. And I see you’re another one who proposes forced birth as a consequence to women for their “actions,” which I take to mean sexual intercourse.

        See, folks, this is what the anti-abortionists are really all about. They don’t want unmarried women having sex. Or if they do, they want women bound to the man who impregnated them, for financial support.

    8. m says:

      I had not thought of this line of reason, as a student of history, I shall be very interested in looking the information up. A logic person would conclude the same when presented in this way. To the studies to back it up.

    9. Michael says:

      NIce try anywoman, you can run but you can’t hide. I could claim that I don’t like gravity all I want. I can pass laws about base jumping and hopping and hang gliding but gravity is the law and can not be ignored. Every aeronautical engineer knows that the effect of gravity must be calculated and accounted for or you are headed for disaster.
      So it is with morality. God’s laws can be ignored and this too will lead to disaster. Have you not read of Rome, or Babylon or many other societies that chose to ignore morality and collapsed from within?
      Your selfishness and calousness is suprising.

      1. anywoman says:

        Your unstated assumption is that I believe in your God.

        Or that what I choose to do with my body should be based on what some TV preacher told you about a book full of myths from the Bronze Age.

        Try again.

      2. Tom says:

        No Anywoman,
        Most of us made no such assumption. It’s very clear you do not believe in God. It’s also painfully clear that you do not believe in personal responsibilty when it comes to sex, and that you don’t give a damn about the sanctity of life when it comes to a child in the womd, the most onnocent of all.

    10. yobaby says:

      So, ANYWOMAN…you would subject the baby you are carrying to the same barbaric practices you accuse those through your historical context…women bound to the man…no rights to vote, own property, divorce, live freely…yet a baby is bound to you and you would terminate its life at your discretion? hmmmmm…your logic and historical references only serve to show how inadequate your point really is.

      1. anywoman says:

        Your analogy makes no sense.

        But in answer to your question whether I would have an abortion . . .

        Yes, I would.

        What are you going to do about it, tough guy? Pull a Scott Roeder?

      2. yobaby says:

        first of all…i’m not a guy…second of all…the historical ill-treatment of women bound to their man pales in comparison to a baby bound to you through no fault of their own and you would barbarically and ruthlessly end their existence…you deny them expression, creativity and life itself. why you have such disdain for the practices of old is beyond me since you would happily carry out murderous injustice against another human life. the baby in your womb is not your twin…it is not a clone…it is a separate, sacred and precious individual. and according to your point of view…if your baby were female, you would only prove that she is worthless, meaningless and disposable, just like the women in iran and in all your historical rants. you are the definition of a pathetic fool…i am a woman defending the lives of all women (born and unborn)…i will never support the right of a woman to terminate the life of an innocent human being.

      3. anywoman says:

        That’s fine for you to have your opinions. The problem is, you want them to be my opinions too, and you want your opinions to have the force of law.

    11. rvastar says:

      [Your God ends where my womb begins.]

      Don’t you mean where ObamaCare begins? Because I’m willing to bet my house that you don’t show the same zealous fealty to personal choice when it comes to people choosing how to pay for their health care decisions.

      1. anywoman says:

        Are you against Social Security? Or do you believe that senior citizens should be able to exercise their “personal choice” to die in the street?

        My sister has cancer and no insurance. Is this an indictment of the American health care system or is she simply exercising her “personal choice” to bankrupt our family?

        More on point, are you unaware that healthcare reform bill contains no federal funding for abortion?

        [Bonus points for the use of the word “fealty,” though.]

      2. yobaby says:

        don’t worry, anywoman…just treat your sister to the same joy you would your fetus. i mean, why not…you even admitted she was bankrupting your family…your other friends on this same post have reasoned that a baby born to an unfit mother is too financially costly, so nip it in the bud (cheaper now then later – sympathy at it best?!)…but even if you can’t bring yourself to terminating your ailing sister, eventually the government health-care you so desire will do it for you…she would be considered too costly for the system…lights-out. will you indict your precious government care then? THINK ABOUT YOUR WORLDVIEW AND OPEN YOUR EYES!!! THERE ARE CONSEQUENCES YOU ARE NOT PREPARED FOR…i was born in a health-care system like the one you champion…government makes our problems worse…i hope you live long enough to see it for yourself, but i am never going to stop fighting against people with your liberal worldview…never. i left a socialist country once, don’t care to live in one again.

      3. anywoman says:

        And yet — despite the rantings of the uninformed — the health care reform law is in effect and will remain so. And will apply to YOU! Quick! Into the bunker with our Goldline stash and our emergency rations of canned ravioli before they unplug Grandma!

        You know, the best part is that people like you really think it is apocalyptic. I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

      4. rvastar says:

        [Are you against Social Security? Or do you believe that senior citizens should be able to exercise their “personal choice” to die in the street?]

        Your “argument” is a non sequitur, based upon the false premise that without Social Security, American seniors would be dying in the streets. Without Social Security, Americans and their families would simply plan differently for their retirement years (i.e., more personal savings, combined households, etc.)

        But nice try 🙂

        [My sister has cancer and no insurance. Is this an indictment of the American health care system or is she simply exercising her “personal choice” to bankrupt our family?]

        I don’t know. Is a person who has cancer WITH health insurance an EXCULPATION of the American health care system?

        Again, your false premise leads to a false conclusion, trying to frame the argument as an “either/or” proposition. Also, you provide absolutely no exculpatory detail regarding WHY your sister has cancer or WHY she has no health insurance. But since I’m absolutely certain that you’re going to CLAIM that neither is through any fault of her own in order to make your argument more sympathetic, it’s really pointless to argue since the unbiased truth is impossible to discern.

        [More on point, are you unaware that healthcare reform bill contains no federal funding for abortion?]

        Actually, there’s nothing in the bill that prevents funding for abortions. The withholding of funds for abortions is completely predicated upon an Executive Signing Order – an order that can be unsigned in an instant – and “promises” that it won’t happen.

        Well, the Left “promised” that a welfare state would help reduce poverty in the black community – instead it’s devastated it. The Left “promised” that Medicare would cost $12 billion in 1990, rather than the $110 billion it actually cost. IOW: in the long run, the Left’s “promises” aren’t worth the paper their written on…just like those written by Obama and Sebelius.

        But, through all your dancing around giving a straight answer, you’ve given the answer I expected from a Leftist: namely, that personal choice should only be reserved for those dimensions of human experience deemed acceptable by the Left. You should have control over your womb, just not your wallet.

      5. anywoman says:

        If, as you imply, it is hypocritical to support control over one’s womb but not one’s wallet, is it not equally hypocritical to support control over one’s wallet but not one’s womb?

        Your other boilerplate talk-radio talking points speak for themselves.

      6. John says:

        Um, yes I am against social security. Give me my 6.2% (4.2 now) back every month and let ME decide how to plan for MY retirement. SS should never have been enacted. Period. Every wage earner has the right to decide where their money goes. Maybe I don’t want to save for retirement.

  23. Jimmy says:

    How many children are created by doctors? Abortion and artificial creation go hand in hand. You can’t have the good without the bad. Do people not realize how many people are on this planet?

    1. Tk says:

      Not enough! That’s why the Social security ponzi scheme is collapsing, but thanks for playing.

  24. macpanther says:

    This data’s a little fishy. How do they arrive at this percentage? Do they divide the number of abortions by the number of people who visit crisis pregnancy centers? The number of people who visit crisis pregnancy centers does not account for all women who might be pregnant. How would they even arrive at a number of pregnancies. It is not something people are required to report.

    Beware of moral entrepreneurs in public office.

  25. Liz says:

    I think it’s interesting how people are so quick to want to say “A woman should have the right to choose what she does to, or with her own body” As a justification
    for having an abortion. When for one, that would be equivalent to saying “I should be able to rob a bank or kill my neighbor, because I should have the right
    to do what I want with my own body” So the first premise is faulty to begin with, Im pretty sure we can all agree that those types of things are NOT okay.
    Secondly, the baby “inside” a woman’s body is NOT to be mistaken as “a part of” her body. It’s not up to her to decide who lives and who doesn’t.
    That baby is not “her”, it is only residing inside of her. That baby has an entirely different set of DNA.
    That’s the point when we start to play God. It’s scary how many people out there are okay with this, I have to agree, it is like a modern day genocide.

    1. Steve says:

      Actually Liz your bank robbing analogy is completely off. An abortion does not effect anyone but the women, a bank robbery effects others. And since the fetus would not surive without taking nutrition from the mother it is literally a part of the mother. The fetus cannot survive on its own, therefore, it is not a “person.”

      1. Debra says:

        A 3 month old can’t survive either if the mother doesn’t feed it. Should the mother be allowed to mutilate her 3 month old?

      2. Rob says:

        Actually Steve, your criticism of Liz’s analogy is completely off. An abortion DOES affect more than just the woman. It affects an unborn child as well. In fact, it affects that unborn child quite a bit more than a bank robbery affects a teller. Also, just because the fetus would not survive without nutrition from the mother does not make it “literally part of the mother”. A newborn baby also would not survive without taking nutrition from it’s mother or caregiver. Children, including the unborn are the most vulnerable among us and should be defended.

      3. Boomer says:

        The baby is a genetically unique individual in an early stage of human life. When you were attached to your mother’s womb, that was you. It was never NOT you. It has ALWAYS been you. You are an individual. You are a person. The baby is a person too. You would never (I hope) say “Let’s kill Grandpa as he’s on a feeding tube after his surgery and is therefore not a person anymore. He’s too expensive for my lifestyle, so go ahead and just stick a vacuum tube in the base of his skull and suck his brains out.” It’s so stupid that even typing it makes my head hurt.

        So, as the baby is a person, an individual human being unlike any that has ever been born before on this planet, and abortion is basically murdering that person, more harm is actually done in the abortion than in the bank robbery. In the bank robbery there’s less chance of someone dying, and most of the time the criminal gets caught and punished. In abortion someone always gets murdered and no one pays the price for the murder but the mother (physically, emotionally, psychologically, spiritually). The abortionist walks away having just murdered an innocent human being.

      4. mike says:

        An infant can’t survive on its own, but you would certainly not use that fact as justification for a woman killing her infant.

      5. Rolyat says:

        Well, Steve, I think we can see what kind of a society you yearn for:
        “If you can’t survive on your own, you’re an “it” not a person, and it’s O,K, to kill you.

      6. John says:

        “Actually Liz your bank robbing analogy is completely off. An abortion does not effect anyone but the women”

        Seriously? You think that? How about it effects: the unborn, the mother, the doctors who kill the unborn, the mother’s family and friends who will probably feel the brunt of the emotional impact, oh and yes, how about the father of that unborn. The psychological effects on the mother alone are traumatic. If not immediately, later on in life. Less than 1% of abortions are a result of rape/incest. Less than 10% are a result of medical complications. The rest are convenience.

      7. Liz says:

        Actually Steve, my analogy does work. My point was that you cannot do “anything” you want with your body. Having an abortion vs. shooting someone with intent to kill (or robbing a bank, because that is still an act you use your body to do.) And an abortion DOES affect others, or “another”, The child! who is inside of the mother. You know, the one who is actually being aborted!! And where is your supporting evidence for your theory on “The fetus cannot survive on its own, therefore, it is not a “person” ? You can’t prove something is true just by saying it is. So basically by saying “The fetus cannot survive on it’s own, therefore, it is not a “person”. You are presupposing that if a person cannot survive on their own without the help of someone else(say the elderly or the sick) than they cant be classified as a “person”? Just because they need assistance or need tubes to feed them nutrition, just like a “fetus” needs nutrition from it’s mother, does not in any way make them “unhuman”.

      8. Liz says:

        Actually Steve, my analogy does work. My point was that you cannot do “anything” you want with your body. Having an abortion vs. shooting someone with intent to kill (or I used earlier, robbing a bank, which i used as an example of one way we use our bodies, which is not okay. Not in all cases is there murder, but it is still a crime none the less) Are one in the same. Someone is murdered in both cases. And an abortion DOES affect others, or “another”, The child! who is inside of the mother. You know, the one who is actually being aborted AKA Murdered! And where is your supporting evidence for your theory on “The fetus cannot survive on its own, therefore, it is not a “person” ? You can’t prove something is true just by saying it is. So basically by saying “The fetus cannot survive on it’s own, therefore, it is not a “person”. You are presupposing that if a person cannot survive on their own without the help of someone else or something else(say the elderly or the sick)like someone who needs nutrients outside of their own body to keep healthy (which we all need from food, and without it we too could not survive) than they/we cant be classified as a “person”? A child inside the mother’s womb needs nutrition yes, and depends on it’s mother for survival,just the same way you or I depend on food and water for survival. So then are we all “unhuman”?

  26. mike311 says:

    that would be a lot of unwanted kids out there, lets ban abortion, im sure thats great for society.

    1. Stephen says:

      So those kids, as unwanted as they are, don’t have a right to life? Really? What makes you and your right to life better than those unwanted kids’ right to life? Is it because some how, you’re better than they are?

      1. Doug says:

        These are unwanted children. How cruel can you all be that want to ban abortion and leave these babies to lead neglected lives? Maybe the Church should endorse birth control? These mothers are going to continue to attempt pro-creation with these results. It’s a shame, but it’s reality.

    2. Ryan Edision says:

      First, enough the with zealots on both sides. Not all New Yorker’s are ideologues, were mostly pragmatic, so if you want to bring abortions to a minimum put men in jail that do not step up and take care of their children, act like men for god sake. Second, Catholic Church, don’t say you want to stop abortions and condemn the distribution of condoms in the same sentence, it’s counterproductive. But hey if we wanna argue about morality and liberty I guess the debate will never end while abortions keep happening.

  27. Riley Smiley says:

    Check the demographic of those women who choose to abort, most of them are Progressives and minorities, the Democratic base.

  28. Red Ruffansore says:

    Noo Yackers are too stupid to reproduce, it should be 100% That liberal gene pool needs to be flushed.

  29. Jimmy Guy Tucker says:

    Whoever said that there is no evil, should visit the graves of these murdered children. Wait they are not buried, they’re thrown in the garbage. Some said the Nazis were pure evil…..

  30. ActionJunkie says:

    Religion aside, this is MURDER. Tragic the steps people will take to make “their lives easier.”

  31. bing says:

    Your mother was pro-life

    1. Doug says:

      no, pro-choice. she chose to have me. she chose that way because she could afford to care for me and love me. i respect women that make the choice to abort when they cannot care for their children.

  32. Tim says:

    It amazes me that religious leaders can gripe about abortions and condom distribution at the same time.

    1. touks says:

      Well, OBVIOUSLY the condom distribution program is a DISMAL FAILURE, wouldn’t you agree??? If not, you’re on Mars. You have to be SMART ENOUGH to put the condom ON (before sex, dear child) for it to prevent pregnancy. Handing out condoms does nothing for the pregnancy rate except make it higher. It’s called “job security” and “profitability” for certain kinds of clinics.

    2. tom says:

      The percentage of condom failure is around 17%, so out of 100 uses you’d likely have 17 children created as the outcome…most of which would be terminated through abortion. Condom distribution is not the answer.

      1. Tom says:

        So, theorehtically, 83 pregnancioes were avoided. Is that correct? That’s a pretty good start.

  33. kimdi01 says:

    Just who is paying for these abortions? Could it be the taxpayers? I know that docotrs are not doing them pro bono.

    1. mike says:

      So woman should have the right to kill their born infants? Is that your opinion?

  34. Shaune says:

    Here’s hoping that all those NYC liberals abort themselves out of existence! It would make life so much better for the rest of us!

  35. boston234 says:

    Would love to see the demographics on this.

  36. Robert says:

    Liberals love their abortions because the practice slows the growth of the minority population and they will even argue that the abortion of babies of African descent keeps crime down. That along with imprisonment of African males for crimes that white males are slapped on the wrist for. These same lily white elites (or their surrogates like Obama) will cry for social justice for “minorities” but they themselves live in economically (racially) segregated areas, attend segregated schools and universities, and are given “jobs” by their parents or connected friends. Abortion has helped keep Africans in the minority and helped to promote liberal white power.

  37. Chet K. says:

    In my NYC dating days, I was astounded by how many women I came across for whom abortion was a casual thing, just this side of Plan A. These were white educated professional women, ever so liberated, with no apparent concern for the fact that they were killing their own children for the sake of social concerns. I believe that the statistics would suprprise you in that regard.

  38. Mike says:

    Criticize them all you want but until you are willing to pay for their children, time and resources that they might not even have to dedicate to them, you don’t get a say. Sorry. Not your decision.

    1. Kellyn says:

      How about they keep their legs crossed?

    2. Shelton says:

      There are years long waiting lists for infant adoption in every state. People are clamoring to take these children in, they are desperate to give their time, money, resources, and love to these kids. They usually end up spending around 25K in adoption fees to travel to the other side of the world to get a child since there are so few up for adoption here.

      Yours is a false argument.

      1. mike says:

        You mean there are so few white babies.

        Let’s be honest here, and straightforward. There is no shortage of latino or black children for adoption. But white people sure as hell are willing to go overseas to avoid having a black baby in their family.

    3. Stephen says:

      I will continue to criticize them because they are putting their comfort over the life of an innocent child. They could have given their child up for adoption instead of killing them.

  39. Falcon78 in Northern Virginia says:

    An abortion is the murder of a human being–just like yourself. The baby inside a mother’s womb is a human person from the time it is conceived. May God have mercy on this country for it’s sinful ways.

  40. Oak Park Lefty says:

    If you’ve got the strength to swallow a watermellon seed, you’ve got enough to take the pill.

  41. Doug Glass says:

    They can make this claim because they have access to ALL pregnancies. Yeah right. Just another loud mouthed pseudo expert making claims for which there is no valid supporting data.

  42. WeThePeople says:

    Abortion IS the Publicly anointed Death Panel.

    It is “Beginning of Life” counseling.
    Taken to it’s most extreme end, It is a service to the State which lowers the burden of support (medical, financial, social, etc).

    Socialists do not look at the individual as people. They cannot see the forest for the trees.
    Their concern is the impact on society. One more mouth to feed, clothe, care for, and support in old age.

    Sad, very sad. 4 out of 10 persons murdered at birth. And we call the radical Islamics Terrorists!

  43. beenaroundyaknow says:

    Part of the Liberal “abortions should be few and infrequent” policy but we can’t deny a woman’s right to choose. Such hypocracy.

    1. Mike says:

      In MHO the act of sex is to procreate, so if a woman and man choose to do this act they should accept the consequences. theres thousands of adoption agencies and other places to get help why should your first choice be to kill it? I think a womans choice is the choice to choose to say yes or no to having sex.

      1. Tom says:

        Agree 100%. Choice starts at sexual contact. Do I engage in sex that could result in a pregnancy or not? Once you take that risk, you’ve made your CHOICE!

      2. mike says:

        So you guys have never once had intercourse for reasons other than reproduction?
        What boring lives. How sad.

      3. Tom says:

        Yeah, Mike, I’ve had intercourse for reason’s other than to make a baby. I use or used protection to avoid an unwanted or accidental pregnancy. If you don’t have access to birth control, don’t have intercourse because you know what your risking. There’s also specific times of the month where intercourse is pretty safe.

        How old are you, Mike. Does this really need to be explained?

  44. Mike says:

    Woe unto them that call good evil and evil good… Isaiah 5.20 NYC needs to repent and seek God quickly.

  45. phil christe says:

    How many are repeat abortions? How many are on black women? I bet the numbers would startle most people. Last time I checked health dept stats, the abortion rate, measured in per 1000 births was 1100 for black women.
    90%, I bet, paid for by medicaid and performed by Planned Parenthood.
    You might call this state sponsored genocide.

    1. Jason says:

      110%? When was the last time you checked health dept stats?

    2. Ausett31 says:

      Phil Christie, which year are you basing your stats on? Is the stat based on NYC or the nation? I have seen no such stat to support your comment and your opinion that 90% of these abortions were financed by Medicaid and Planned Parent Hood. Also, Black women were not in the fore front to legalize abortion, it was white women.

    3. cjs says:

      i am a retired obgyn and i promise you, medicaid doesnt pay for abortion except in the case of life or death issues with the mother. abortions are paid for with cash.

      1. joseph says:

        Medicaid will pay for services ancillary to the abortion, such as an ultrasound exam. So, abortion is funded by your tax dollars.

  46. stevens says:

    41% is an astounding percetage! NYC is a modern day Gommorah.

  47. Rob in San Fran says:

    When do we get those death panels I voted for?

  48. Borrowed Time says:

    Convenience abortions:what a tragedy. So many hugs, smiles, “I love you”s left cold.

  49. leslie says:

    Liberals love their abortions. That’s the one and only thing they will stand and defend. Oh war is bad, terriosts need rights, they want to decide how you live your life. But never and I mean never tell them they can’t kill their babies.

    1. Tim says:

      Oh yeah, I can just picture those crazy liberals laughing and partying their way to the abortion clinic. Or maybe, it pains them to make such a decision, but not without having considered the deep impacts that having a child would have on their lives. You see, Leslie, we live in a free country where people have reproductive rights, unlike the imaginary land of dogmatic, theocratic fascism that you’d prefer to dwell. So the real tragedy is not allowing abortions, but rather having to put up with people like you who can’t think past the tip of their own nose, and instead find it easier to condemn and ridicule without so much as a thought about the situation a person may find themselves in.

      1. ProgressiveTexan says:

        Thank you for articulating this so perfectly.

      2. lj says:

        You are one selfish human being. Sorry the dead child got in the way of your “reproductive rights”. Sorry, but the REAL TRAGEDY is the dead baby, not that someone wants to remind you of that fact.

      3. mike says:

        You are premising that the “fetus’ is not a human life, therefore it can be disposed of like an unwanted skin growth.

        This is your conceptual error:

        The so called fetus is a human life in the process of being formed. It is a stage in the development of a human being. You were at that stage of development at one time, as was your mom, dad, and everyone else that you love.

        You were one of the lucky “fetuses” that were not destroyed in the womb.

      4. Bohoco says:

        Tim, I can tell you who knows all about the situations that people find themselves in. They work in crisis pregnancy centers and they have heard every story there is to hear. They know a human life, created in God’s image, is of more worth any temporary solution to their very feel problems. And they are available to help anyone give life to their child. No one else can give that child life, but many would love to give it a good home. I believe that is thinking beyond the nose as you say.

      5. twoiron says:

        Reproductive rights exist up to the point unprotected vaginal intercourse begins. At the point of conception, those rights give way to the right of the unborn baby to live. Call it dogmatic, theocratic fascism if you like, but don’t be upset when I call abortion the willful murder of a totally innocent and defenseless unborn child. Intercourse is the opportunity that a man and a woman have to participate in the creation of a new life. I guess the fact that Liberals don’t seem to understand where babies come from (i.e., having unprotected sex) is not just a tired old joke.

      6. rvastar says:

        [You see, Leslie, we live in a free country where people have reproductive rights, unlike the imaginary land of dogmatic, theocratic fascism that you’d prefer to dwell.]

        What about the right to life of the human being that’s being aborted, Tim? And before you start the standard Leftist mantra about “it’s not a human being, it’s just a bunch of cells”, a few questions…

        Are you a human being? Yes.

        What makes you a human being? The DNA that you received from your mother and your father.

        When did your mother and father’s DNA combine to create “you”? At the moment of conception.

        Would it be possible for you to be alive now without the combination of your mother and father’s DNA? No.

        Were you alive BEFORE your mother and father’s DNA combined? No.

        So, Tim, if your life didn’t begin at conception, 1) how did you receive your father’s DNA and 2) how are you alive now?

      7. Tom says:

        Liberals, progressives, and femminists no where babies come from and how they are made, they just don’t believe in personal responsibility. It’s really a selfish, self-righteous kind of attitude.

      8. Tim says:

        Funny how none of you seem to mention the life of a child after it’s born. All of you foam at the mouth over the thought of terminating an embryonic pregnancy. But, should that baby be born to a single mother, then the two of them are instantly labelled “drains on society”, and then you zealots gripe and moan about having to pay a single penny into a welfare system funded by taxpayer dollars. You people are disgusting hypocrites! Go cry your river of tears to someone else!

        Thankfully, Roe v. Wade has settled this matter, and we don’t have to live in your land of religious fascism. Freedom and democracy wins in America! Hooray! So, GFY!! 😀

      9. Tom says:

        Yeah, Tim.
        What about “freedom”? What about those inalieable rights endowed by our creator, “Life, Liberty, and the Pursiut of Happiness”.

        Where does abortion fit in there? Your a fool. You’re probably an athiest too. (and a femminist)

      10. rvastar says:

        [Funny how none of you seem to mention the life of a child after it’s born.]

        So to avoid a life hardship for a child, the kind thing to do is to kill it.

        Very progressive of you.

        [All of you foam at the mouth over the thought of terminating an embryonic pregnancy. But, should that baby be born to a single mother, then the two of them are instantly labelled “drains on society”, and then you zealots gripe and moan about having to pay a single penny into a welfare system funded by taxpayer dollars.]

        Please give us your logical explanation as to why the able-bodied single mother of the child should be EXCUSED from responsibility for providing for said child, yet taxpayers should be SADDLED with that responsibility. IOW: what right does she have – or her child have, for that matter – to money that they didn’t earn?

        [You people are disgusting hypocrites! Go cry your river of tears to someone else!]

        Ad hominem insults from a Leftist. How shocking.

        [Thankfully, Roe v. Wade has settled this matter, and we don’t have to live in your land of religious fascism.]

        Actually, there are plenty of very liberal legal scholars who believe that Roe v. Wade is bad law and subject to repeal in the future. So stay tuned 🙂

        As for your obvious hatred of religious people, I’ll simply remind you of the FACT that the most murderous group of people in human history – BY FAR – were not Christians, Jews, or Muslims…they were your ATHEIST bretheren in the Soviet Union and China.

        Have a nice day living in your ignorance 🙂

      11. Mic says:

        Of the approx. 50 million abortions since 1973, about 25 million or so would be adults now, working and paying into the system that is so far in debt . The Social Security system would be balanced if we had 25 million more workers in this country. Just think of the great men and women of America that never were, just because their mother didn’t want to be bothered with a baby. What if Henry Ford had been aborted? What is Albert Einstein was aborted? You just never will know (or maybe we will!) how great this country could have been if it weren’t for the scourge of abortion. Aren’t you glad your mother chose life? God will not be mocked, there will be a reckoning for the blood of the innocents cries out to Him from the ground!

      12. Tom says:

        Well said, Rvastar! Tim is a fool.

      13. rvastar says:

        [Well said, Rvastar! Tim is a fool.]

        Here’s a quote that sums up people like Tim perfectly:

        “Marxism [and all its offshoots – i.e. socialism, progressivism, etc.] is intellectualism for stupid people.” – Moe Lane


      14. Tim says:

        Roe v. Wade! 🙂 Thanks for playing!

      15. rvastar says:

        [Roe v. Wade! 🙂 Thanks for playing!]

        And may Leftists such as yourself continue taking full advantage of it. After all, it’s bringing about results such as this:,0,7067155.story

        …and this:

        Tick-tock, tick-tock…

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