Though Only In Planning Stages, Completion Could Take 10 Years To Happen

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Mayor Michael Bloomberg is pushing the throttle on the No. 7 train hoping to have it extending to New Jersey before he leaves office at the end of his third term.

Even New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie is on board, with a spokesman saying Wednesday he is “intrigued” by the notion, which puts a new option for trans-Hudson travel back on track.

1010 WINS’ Stan Brooks reports

After a string of transit failures, including congestion pricing and tolling the East River bridges, Mayor Bloomberg is hoping that “7” is his lucky number.

The mayor wants to extend the line to the Garden State and he’s so hot on the idea that  the city is shelling out a quarter of a million bucks to do a feasibility study, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.

“The idea of having good transportation and mass transportation is something that’s very appealing to this city. I’ve always argued that if you’re going to depend on cars to come into the city we’re always going to have delays,” Bloomberg said Wednesday.

He conceded the project is just in the talking stage and would ultimately involve digging a new tunnel under the Hudson River.

The estimated cost of the project is $10 billion.

“This is something where the economics seem to make some sense,” Bloomberg said. “The subway extension is on budget, on time pretty much coming down the West Side and you could probably continue it over. There are some economic arguments that it would be justified.”

There has been talk of the No. 7 subway train running into Secaucus for nearly a year — ever since Gov. Christie put the brakes on a controversial Trans-Hudson rail tunnel last October.

Christie killed the plans to build the tunnel because of the$9 billion to $14 billion price tag.

But he’s apparently on board with the Bloomberg proposal.

“We have been intrigued all along by this as a potential alternative to the ARC tunnel project, which was an albatross for New Jersey and its taxpayers with its billions in cost overruns to be absorbed entirely by New Jersey,” said Christie spokesman Michael Drewniak.

The mayor’s plan – the price tag still to be worked out — would be a multi-state, multi-agency venture.

“We want better transportation from here to all the markets all the places that people live that want to come into the city to work and to shop,” Bloomberg said.

WCBS 880’s Rich Lamb reports

Commuters seem split on the idea.

“For what it is going to cost I’m not sure the ridership would justify it,” said Wyckoff, N.J. resident Virginia Fairweather said.

“I think it’s a good idea because a lot of people commute from New Jersey,” added Kevin Smith of Woodside, Queens.

“It will reduce vehicle traffic in Manhattan, that will help also,” said Bertram Merling of the Upper West Side.

The goal is to allow commuters to take the train all the way from Flushing to Secaucus or vice versa. Still to be worked out is whether you’ll pay an additional fare for the New Jersey leg.

If it gets the green light the project could take a decade or more to complete.

Do you support the plan? Let us know below…

Comments (19)
  1. Steve the stud says:

    This is a great idea. It would be much cheaper and with the 7 line being extended anyway it just makes sense. You wouldn’t need to build that massive, deep underground station in Manhattan. This would be perfect to stop in Weehawken’s Lincoln Harbor area then on to Secaucus. Hoboken has the path but there is nothing besides the Lincoln all the way to the GW. Western access to Manhattan has far fewer options than the east.

  2. VY says:

    If this happens the bypassed planned #7 extension stop at 41st Street & 11th Avenue must be completed. If NJ is served then the west side of Manhattan must be served, thenan additional stop at 11th Avenue & 23rd Street, then out to NJ.
    In NJ a stop at 9th / Stevens Institute in east Hoboken,
    9th Street/ Hudson Bergan Light Rail in wesdt Hoboken,
    2 stops in Union City, NJ, then the
    NJ Transit Secaucus Transfer Station.
    A very large parking garage should be built at the Secaucus Transfer Station / #7 Station connected to the NJ Turnpike and I-280.
    Also a large NJ TRansit Bus Station to reroute some of the buses that would otherwise go to the Port Authority West Side Bus Terminal in Manhattan.

  3. bullett says:

    Mayor Bloomberg’s idea is the best so far. The number 7 train would allow NJ riders to 42nd St., transfer to the number 4 to Yankee Stadium or stay on the number 7 to the Mets-Willits Point stop. On the reverse side NY riders would be able to transfer at the Secaucus Junction to the East Rutherford stadium for the Giants/Jets. When do we start construction?

    1. joe casa says:

      HI this is great This is better then arc tunnel project it will save money people told us WE all hope they appove extening the numer 7 train Thanks.

  4. Northern Reigon, Hershey PA says:

    Bloomberg, I think you should put a new subway line upper U.S.

  5. Richard Tattersall says:

    He’s got the money. He should pay for it.

  6. B. Montana says:

    what ever happened to just using the PATH train??? it’s like that train doesn’t even exist anymore!

  7. David says:

    The idea sounds good on paper, but that’s where it ends. How about improving subway service in Queens? Furthermore, it is important to realize that the agency running the subway system is legally known as the New York City Transit Authority. When did New Jersey become the 6th borough?

    1. Williams College says:

      The Washington Subway doesn’t just serve D.C. does it? So your argument is a baseless one.

      1. B. Montana says:

        hold up: yes, the dc metro serves washington, and some parts of maryland and n. virginia, but it’s totally different than the “new york city subway” where the subway serves the city of new york, and the surrounding boroughs, not new jersey! you wanna take a train from NJ to NY, either get on the path, or hop on NJ Transit! it’s that simple

  8. Shalom (R.Ph.) says:

    I think it’s a great idea, but then I live in Jersey and would use the service, so of course I would say that. NJ would be paying for part of it anyway.

    But Nick is right too. Why not extend it further east as well? It wouldn’t even need any new infrastructure; the south side of Corona Yard is right up against the LIRR right of way at the Willets Point station, and the two systems are electrically compatible. Knock down the fence, build a transfer track, and send the 7 trains to Port Washington!

    (The cars would need some modification to meet FRA standards for running on a mainline railroad, and maybe platform extenders to fill the gaps between the 8’9″ wide IRT cars and the platforms designed for 10′-wide LIRR cars, but that’s minor stuff. The 7 rolling stock is captive anyway, not shared with any of the rest of the system, so nothing else would need modifications.)

    1. David says:

      How about using the funds that would be allocated to an extension of the IRT’s Flushing Line to completing the 2nd Avenue Subway? It’s only been 56 years since the 3rd Avenue Elevated main line in Manhattan was abandoned and subsequently demolished.

    2. Richard Tattersall says:

      Subway cars, ARE NOT “captive”. The fact that nothing else runs on that line, or that those trains don’t run on other lines, has nothing to do with it They all have to go to the shops for regular maintenance or repair work. That would be the same as saying the Grand Central-Times Square shuttle, is “captive” The third rails are set up differently. Another problem is that the subway runs on 600 volts DC. The LIRR, currently runs on 750 volts DC. It wouldn’t work.

  9. Besalel says:

    “I think it’s a good idea because a lot of people commute from New Jersey, added Kevin Smith”

    Well, if silent bob is for it then who am i to argue? snoochie bootchies!

  10. Danny says:

    Garbage cans are being removed because of money, and this is what he wants to do? He is certainly living in an ivory tower.

  11. NIck says:

    How about extending it further into QUEENS, NEW YORK. Why am I paying for NEW JERSEY?

  12. sammy says:

    what an a s s hole

  13. Richard says:

    Great. The city has NO money to improve subway service, we’re suffering a 50% service cut, they claim Albany is hurting for funds, yet somehow Spoogeberg manages to dig up several million dollars to redo the city’s waterfront, money to complete the 2nd avenue subway project, and now we miraculously have found a way to extend the #7 subway service. Wow!!!!

  14. midi-man says:

    Sounds like a great idea since a lot of business are moving to NJ anyway. Thanks to your bumbling administration.

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