NEW YORK (WFAN) — In an exclusive interview with CBS News’ Norah O’Donnell on Tuesday, NFL Commissioner Roger Goodell was adamant that the second video of Ray Rice assaulting his then-fiance was “new evidence” that no one within the NFL had seen before Monday.

Pro Football Hall of Famer Michael Irvin, who joined WFAN co-hosts Joe Benigno and Evan Roberts in his weekly spot on Wednesday, believes him.

“Oh, God no,” Irvin told Joe & Evan when asked if he believes that Goodell is lying about having never seen the second video. “God no. God no, I don’t think he’s lying. There’s no way anyone saw that tape … When you see that video, it’s just gruesome. And there’s no way anyone saw that tape and said, ‘Oh, well we’re only going to do this and no one ever say anything.’ It’s impossible. It’s impossible. It’s impossible.”

Goodell told O’Donnell that on Monday morning, “I got into our office, and our staff had come to me and said, ‘There’s new evidence. There’s a video that you need to see.’ And I watched it then.”

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A major question was why the NFL — with its security resources — did not know about the second tape released Monday, and how TMZ ended up releasing it.

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Goodell said the NFL was never given the video despite requests for it.

“We had not seen any videotape of what occurred in the elevator,” Goodell said. “We assumed that there was a video. We asked for video. We asked for anything that was pertinent. But we were never granted that opportunity.”

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O’Donnell asked whether anyone at the NFL had seen the tape before Monday. Goodell said that, to his knowledge, no one had.

He said the NFL was aware that the tape existed and was in the hands of a prosecutor’s office, but multiple attempts to obtain the tape failed, O’Donnell reported.

When asked how TMZ got hold of the tape while the NFL could not, Goodell said it was a matter of using reliable sources.

“I don’t know how TMZ or any other website gets their information,” the commissioner said. “We are particularly reliant on law enforcement — that’s the most reliable. It’s the most credible. And we don’t seek to get that information from sources that are un-credible.”

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