Report: Brooklyn Police Discussed Ticket Quotas

NEW YORK (1010 WINS/CBS 2/AP) — A secret recording made in a Brooklyn police station reportedly caught supervisors discussing ticket quotas.

The New York Times says it got the hour-long recording, made by a police supervisor, this week. It says the recording was made during an April meeting of supervisors from the 81st Precinct.

“5 seat belts and 5 cell phones a week, 5 double parkers and 5 bus stops a week.”  That was the message that could be heard from one of the tapes obtained by the Times.

CBS 2’s Derricke Dennis reports that the tapes contain a top commander, who told supervisors in a meeting last April to lean on officers to write more tickets — or else.

“Cause after I bounce you to a different platoon for inactivity, the next thing is to put you on paper, start writing you for low standards, and look to fire you. I really don’t have a problem firing people. I don’t need to carry you,” the voice on the tape said.

However, Deputy Commissioner of the NYPD, Paul Browne, said the tapes showed no indication of any wrongdoing or illegal quotas.

“What you’re hearing on the tapes, assuming they’re valid, is just good management,” Browne told 1010 WINS. “These are minimum numbers they talked about, any member of the public if they just walk around the block would see the type of violations in a day never mind the month.”

He added that the Times was “clearly confused and wrong” about the discussions on the tape.

“If you’re in law enforcement, that means doing things like giving tickets and making arrests,” Browne said. “We’re looking for some net goal that indicates you’re doing your job.”

However, New York Civil Liberties Union Director Donna Lieberman said she has long suspected officers were writing tickets to meet certain numbers — now she says there’s proof.

“If its going on with regard to parking tickets, isn’t it also happening, and we know it’s happening with regard to stop and frisks,” Lieberman said.

1010 WINS’ Juliet Papa spoke with residents from the neighborhood and some said they believe there is excessive ticketing in the area.

LISTEN: 1010 WINS Reporter Juliet Papa talks with angry New Yorkers

“If you have to do alternate side of the street parking they may come a few minutes before the time is up and give you a ticket,” one woman said.

One man said he was given a ticket which was written before the time expired on his muni-meter sticker.

Some Brooklyn residents also said they weren’t buying the response from the NYPD.

“It comes a time of the month, where they just go crazy at times,” Anthony Bryant said.

“5 minutes in Dunkin Donuts and they were towing my truck,” Mildred Mercado said.

The NYCLU said it was considering asking the Justice Department or the state attorney general to investigate the matter.

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One Comment

  1. christine says:

    us citizens knew the rules….at the end of the month, make sure you follow ALL rules or we would get pulled over. this is nothing new to any of us

  2. robert says:

    I lost the meaning of being a cop when I realized it was a numbers game and not omni presence. Being a cop is a joke. I only desired to protect and serve not be worried about numbers. Numbers = Quotas … only cops understand this language.

  3. robert says:

    Quotas! Hell yes. I was mandated to write 800 every three month and 2 misdemenor collars. I was in the Bus Squad …. That meant bus stops and anything you can get in between to get those high numbers.

  4. Brian Weber says:

    The same thing happens all over the city. The number of cops have shrunk but they still want the same number of arrests and tickets. I know many cops and they all complain about how the brass only care about numbers and statistics, they don’t care about a innocent girl that got raped the only thing they will think about is that they have a rape on their compstat report. The brass compares the number of tickets from last year to this and if it is low this year someone is going to hang. With the compstat system they expect a gain in the number of summonses every year. So if there were a 1000 tickets written last year there better be more summonses written this year. When will this end?

  5. Jeff Rosen says:

    “or the worse horror back then: being transferred to “a precinct that started with a seven and ended in an odd number”

    Worse horror?? I worked in the 73 for 10 years and it was the best 10 years of my life!!

    1. johnniemac says:

      maybe the best for you, jeff, but brooklyn north wasn’t for everyone …

  6. johnniemac says:

    This is valid information. I was on the job in South Brooklyn in the 1980’s and they expected a ‘book’ a month, which consisted of 25 tickets. You had to write five movers and twenty parkers or else you’d be denied days off, written up for dumb stuff like no whistle, white socks, etc.. I was working midnights steady out of choice so it was easy to get parkers at 3AM when it was a slow radio night. You could write one mystery car five movers easily if you knew the NYS Vehicle and Traffic Law well enough. But guys who worked other steady tours could get their choice work hours taken away, or the worse horror back then: being transferred to “a precinct that started with a seven and ended in an odd number.” 🙂

  7. Nicky says:

    This is not news. However, if you deserve the ticket then so be it. Be careful and don’t do anything to give the cops an excuse to ticket you.

    1. Johnny says:

      Unless you have a badge and parking placard in which the rules don’t apply to you anyway.

  8. RBC says:

    I was a police officer in brooklyn over 20 years ago, and we had a quota then as well. hardly news

  9. Marc says:

    “I’m shocked, SHOCKED to find gambling going on here.”
    “Your winnings sir.”

    Stop victimizing New Yorkers. We’re just trying to live our lives!

  10. Andy Anderson says:

    The Times is so current. What breaking news next? “JUDGE CRATER FOUND ALIVE IN BROOKLYN !”

  11. Sally Rogers says:

    It is nice to have it in concrete, instead of speculating. But, I really could have told you that. Especially certain times of the month. It feels like the NYPD is PMSing for a few days when they get down to the wire of having to produce revenue for the city.

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