Dueling Demonstrations Held In NYC After 9/11 Memorial

NEW YORK (CBS 2) — On this ninth anniversary of the September 11 attacks on the World Trade Center, dueling demonstrations were held just steps from ground zero.

Thousands marched in Lower Manhattan, with one group supporting the proposed community center and mosque near ground zero, and the other standing in opposition.

The mosque’s proposed location stands just two blocks from what many people consider sacred ground, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.

Saturday was supposed to be a quiet and respectful demonstration against the mosque on the anniversary of the Twin Towers attack, but the mother of a man who perished that day couldn’t contain herself.

“Mr. Bloomberg, tell us, do you sleep well? Do you have a bad dream?” Nelly Braginsky, who lost her son Alexander on September 11, 2001, said.

Mayor Bloomberg is one of the prime supporters of the so-called ground zero mosque, but for the people who don’t want it built so close to the site of the attack, he was ripe for criticism. The message from Braginsky.

“You want to pray, God bless you. You want to build a mosque, God bless you. But do not put a mosque on a cemetery,” she said.

The flag-waving crowd of mosque opposition stretched two blocks, across three lanes of traffic. An estimated 3,000 people from across the country crowded in to participate and have their voice heard.

The main speaker was anti-Islam Dutch politician Geert Wilders, whose bodyguard appeared to have an automatic weapon is his black bag.

“A tolerant society like New York must defend itself against the forces of darkness,” Wilders said.

The ceremony began with the military song “Taps,” and a moment of silence for those who perished on that fateful day.

Retired firefighter Louis Caccholi was trapped in one of the towers, and was one of the few in his company to get out alive.

“I’m against a mosque where they want to build it…it breaks my heart,” Caccholi said.

Also in Lower Manhattan was a sizable crowd that came out to show their support for the proposed mosque and cultural center, as CBS 2’s Lou Young reports.

They stood at City Hall Park, and then marched through Lower Manhattan, to underscore their belief that being American and Muslim are not mutually exclusive. For many, the downtown mosque would be proof of that.

“These people who attacked this country are not belonging to us,” Staten Island resident Mahmoud Ali said. “American Muslims who live here have the right to get equality.”

An estimated 2,000 people took part in the protest, attracted not so much by support for the mosque as horror at the tone of the opposition.

“My take is that we’re not at war with Islam,” Kathy Manley, of Albany, said.

Many at the demonstration say the terrorists responsible for the 9/11 attacks, by those very actions, surrendered any claim to Muslim faith.

However, the name-calling continued on Saturday. One unidentified protester who opposed the mosque was led away by police after buring several pages of a Koran in the open protest area closest to the mosque’s proposed location.

Steps away, a Koran publisher was giving away free copies of the Muslim holy book. The hope, Sajjad Khalfan said, is that people will read the book and decide for themselves. He had his own words for the 9/11 attackers.

“A handful of wackos, unfortunately, have taken credit,” Khalfan, of Woodside, said. “I wouldn’t call them Muslim.

There were a number of confrontations between supporters and opposition of the mosque. Police removed them from the area, but did not arrest them.

  • http://culturecrusader.wordpress.com culturecrusader

    It is typical of liberals to focus on things like skin color or questions about who was here first because all liberals are inherently tribal and racist. America isn’t about tribalism or racism or irredentism, it is an idea. And to the extent another idea comes along – masquerading in the name of religion – that seeks to change that idea, then it must be opposed.

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  • JDRH

    Everyone keeps saying ‘THEY’, like anyone who is a Muslim is some kind of Alien! Hello, there are millions of Muslims who are American, quite a few’s family’s have been here longer than ours, and helped make this country what it is. Those fanatics that caused 9/11 has nothing to do with these people, these Americans, like I have nothing to do with what the fanatics in Christianity do in the name of that church. Why is it so hard for some of you to understand that. What have you done lately, that makes you all so superior…The rest of the world is moving on, so if we want to keep up, we’d better start getting on with it, and start behaving like the ‘Leaders of the free world’…we’re not the first nation to hold that title, and we won’t be the last, but we have the advantage of hindsight, we should learn from their mistakes, not keep going around in circles…they lost their power, because they thought they we’re better than everyone else, and that’s how we sound now…want to be the best country, you’ve got to earn it. and you won;t, as long as you stay uneducated, narrow minded, and racist.

  • Julii

    they should not build a mosque where 9-11 happened. It is sacred ground. Like a cemetery. They should not forget that event and they should respect the dead, the people who died there.

  • Tom

    A friend of mine who lives in NYC and I were talking last night about the protests, and she said something very poignant: “I think the saddest thing about this is that neither side, those for or against, could stop to think ‘You know, maybe we’ll protest on September 12, and leave the 11th to the memorials and tributes.’ “

  • Alex

    Muslims got denied with their mosque in Staten Island. However, they are pushing in Manhattan and Brooklyn. They do not care about our opinion. Stop islamization of America!

    • KPMc

      The people of Staten Island aren’t exactly known for their tolerance and open-armed welcome of people that are different from them. Many want to keep their little white-bred, Italian/ Irish-American enclave in a past the rest of us aren’t very proud of.

      Brooklyn, however, is a melting pot of cultures, ethnicities, religions and opinions that are a microcosm of what makes this country great.

      • http://culturecrusader.wordpress.com culturecrusader

        It sounds like you harbor a deep-seated prejudice against Staten Islanders.

  • Alex

    Stop islamization of America! Why we need mosques at the areas where there are no Muslim residents? Germany got lessons, they close their mosques. Why does America not learn its lesson?

    • KPMc

      Yes… lets follow the leaders of tolerance, understanding and freedom… the Germans.


      Doesn’t anyone still think America and it’s ideals are light years better than the rest of the world or are we all ready to throw in the towel after less than 250 years?

      • KPMc

        Oh… and you’ve never been to NYC if you think there are no Muslim residents.

  • Yusaf

    Thank you Haters !!

    Its because of you that Islam is the fastest growin greligion in the world.
    Its because of you that everyone gets the curiosity of reading the Quran and in the end they end up being Muslims. :)

    Keep up the Good work

  • morris wise

    In a global economy imagery is very important, permitting the mosque to be built in its proposed location is good for international customer relations. American businessmen are traveling the world trying to open up new accounts, without a welcome mat they will return home disappointed.

  • sathan555

    Intention of Obama with his mentor Imam’s is to construct and convert the Ground Zero into the next most holy place after Mecca. Consequently, the current American flag will be changed with a new half moon symbol to show his 100% deepest support to the Islamic world. Similarly, soon after that the current name USA will be renamed with United Islamic Republic of America (UIRA) and along with that he will impose barbaric Islamic laws such as Talibanism, stone killing (in the name of God), compulsory veil to all females, etc . Finally, there will be no more America…………

    • JDRH

      I’m beginning to think that your last point there might not be such a bad idea, because if everybody thinks like you do, then America and everything it stood for is dead! Our founding fathers created a country to combat that narrow minded, bigoted and altogether, dangerous way of thinking. I think we should all re-read the constitution and the Bill of Rights to remind ourselves why we are here in the first place. The 1st Amendment states ‘Freedom of Religion’…that was one of the main reason people came over to America in the first place. We are all from all over the world, America was founded by immigrants from all backgrounds, all religions, all of us are borrowing this land anyway, you can’t take it with you! What gives you the right to say who can be here, where they can live and what they can believe…you are saying that Muslim countries do this…yet you are doing the exactly the same, albeit put sarcastically. America will get through this, if we remember why we are here to begin with…tolerance, freedom and hopefully ‘love thy neighbor’.

  • Melese Zenawi

    By no means America is not like Saudi Arabia & other Arab nations who opress freedom of religion. Public disorder acts should be taken into consideration in both sides of the debate. I think America will stand for the very purposes it issued war against others. FREEDOM to belief, speak & bla bla. We are wittnessing the rebirth of HITLER (example:Geert Wilders), he is trying to insult an american citizen, me. He should deserve to die. I think he is still in the dark age where by all of his speeches seem as he is a member of Gtsabo, Nazi. Anyways get out of our country. Your father has killed in the name of democracy so many south africans in the apparthaid. America this is real test to proof the values we stand for. “Every generalization is wrong, even this one” Who massacred jewish people? peoples like Geert Wilders who claim they are christians. Does it mean christianity should be evoked from Africa, Arab countries & Israel. NO NO, Individuals should be brought to justice who did wrong & doing wrong. That’s all. God Bless my country, Ethiopia & my prime minister position.

  • Donald Wallace

    You will never change the minds of people that hate, you can only try. Their hatred will always lead them down the wrong road. Stop hating on our President Obama because you really don’t matter!

  • Slim Pickins

    Plant vase broke.
    blame one kid
    blame the other kid
    stop learn and find out it was the niether
    it was the cat.
    stop bickering^and find out wht really happened



    • KPMc

      You saw the same propaganda video clips on every network repeated over and over and to you that means the ENTIRE Muslim world.

      Good to see that no matter how media savvy we’ve become the ignorant lemmings can still be brainwashed by propaganda.

      Read a history book and turn off the cable once in awhile.

  • amina

    why is there no freedom to build churches in muslim countries? why is no one talking talking about the persecution of christians in muslims countries all over the world? America only asks for the mosque to be moved – no one said dont build. In Muslim land christians cant even build a church in most instances.

    • KPMc

      Because we live in America. The LEADER of the FREE world. Where would YOU rather live?

      • KPMc


        I’m not sure what your argument is. Are you for the freedom of people to put their houses of worship wherever the want like in lower Manhattan? Or, like many others here are you saying as long as there are no churches/synagogues in Mecca then there shouldn’t be a mosque next to a strip club which is also near the WTC site? Or.. are you saying that we as a nation should somehow force other countries to live under our ideals? I’m really not sure what your proposing.

        In answer to your question I would love to see all peoples and nations embrace not only democracy but respect to freedom of religion and speech. But I live in this country where it seems we have to struggle to maintain those ideals even now, over 200 years after the foundation was laid.

      • A Christian

        I am a citizen of America and proud of it. But I am also a citizen of the world and as such can not ignore what goes on in the rest of the world or not be affected by it. It is not right that Christians are not allowed into Mecca or to build churches there. Surely as a supporter of freedom you would agree.

  • beur

    just don’t allow the building of that near ground zero. i think its disgraceful to the family of the victims. you know what are the reaction of muslims when the 9/11 happened? they are all happy and laughing :) yes they are not terrorist, they are muslim but why they are laughing? and they will laugh again when that building is build near ground zero :(

    please america, wake up, they are using there so called freedom agains you :(

    • KPMc

      So… ALL muslims were laughing and dancing? none were crying and heartbroken? None were shattered and confused? None prayed for peace?

      BTW… they are OUR freedoms. Not theirs or “so-called”

      Wake up and smell the constitution.

  • GM

    Listen to translated words direct from the Almighty Creator of this Universe
    38. So I swear by whatsoever you see,
    39. And by whatsoever you see not,
    40. That this is verily the pronunciation of an honored Messenger [Muhammad].
    41. It is not the saying of a poet, little is that you believe!
    42. Nor is it the saying of a Priest, little is that you remember!
    43. This is the Revelation sent down from the Lord of all that exists.
    44. And if he (Muhammad) had forged a false saying on our behalf,
    45. We surely should have seized him by his right hand,
    46. And then certainly should have cut off his life artery,
    47. And none of you could withhold Us from (punishing) him.
    48. And verily, this Qur’ân is a Reminder for the (pious).
    49. And verily, We know that there are some among you that belie (this Qur’ân).
    50. And indeed it (this Qur’ân) will be an anguish for the disbelievers (on the Day of Resurrection).
    51. And Verily, it (this Qur’ân) is an absolute truth with certainty.
    52. So glorify the Name of your Lord, the Most Great.
    110. (Remember) when Almighty God will say (on the Day of Resurrection). “O (Jesus), son of (Mary)! Remember My Favour to you and to your mother when I supported you with (Gabriel) so that you spoke to the people in the cradle (“this is new not mentioned in current bible which proved innocence of Mary before all people”) and in maturity; and when I taught you writing (the power of understanding) the (Torah) and the (Gospel), and when you made out of the clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My Permission, and you breathed into it, and it became a bird by My Permission, and you healed those born blind, and the lepers by My Permission, and when you brought forth the dead by My Permission; and when I restrained the Children of Israel from you (when they resolved to kill you) since you came unto them with clear proofs, and the disbelievers among them said: ‘This is nothing but evident magic.’ ”
    111. And when I (Almighty God) put in the hearts of (the disciples) to believe in Me and My Messenger, they said: “We believe. And bear witness that we surrender.”
    116. And (remember) when Almighty God will say (on the Day of Resurrection): “O (Jesus), son of (Mary)! Did you say unto men: ‘Worship me and my mother as two gods besides Almighty God?’ ” He will say: “Glory be to You! It was not for me to say what I had no right (to say). Had I said such a thing, You would surely have known it. You know what is in my inner-self though I do not know what is in Yours, truly, You, only You, are the All-Knower of all that is hidden and unseen.
    117. “Never did I say to them aught except what You (Almighty God) did command me to say: ‘Worship Almighty God, my Lord and your Lord.’ And I was a witness over them while I dwelt amongst them, but when You took me up, You were the Watcher over them, and You are a Witness to all things.
    157. And because of their saying (in boast), “We killed Messiah (Jesus), son of (Mary), the Messenger of Almighty God,” – but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but the resemblance of (Jesus) was put over another man (and they killed that man), and those who differ therein are full of doubts. They have no (certain) knowledge, they follow nothing but conjecture. For surely; they killed him not (Jesus) son of (Mary. But Almighty God raised him (Jesus) up (with his body and soul) unto Himself (and he is in the heavens). And Almighty God is Ever All¬ Powerful, All¬ Wise.

  • waleed

    GETitRight is a nazi very like the nazi who slaughtered the Red Indians and arab christians by crucaders

    • GETitRight

      Sorry waleed.. u got it wrong im Native American. and its too back all u colorful people wont pack up ur sh(t and sail back home where u came from.
      Leave go back to Africa Europe Mexico and hajji land set my people and their land free….

      • Humanitarian

        GETitRight: Native American means an Indian, a redskin. Mexicans were already there when your ancestors landed in their continent. So dont go too fast. Maybe you should also consider packing up??

      • http://culturecrusader.wordpress.com culturecrusader

        Don’t hold your breath for that to happen.

    • Melese Zenawi

      Nazi is the same with Saddam anyways

  • JDRH

    How incredibly sad to see such ignorance, bigotry and hate…after reading some of the comments above, it would seem that we have learned absolutely nothing over the last 10 years…at least then we could honor those who died in 9/11 and all those who have died in the name of organized religion, by showing them the respect they deserve, which is that killing, hatred, intolerance etc. are not the way, as I am sure they would agree, if they were still alive. This world has gone mad.
    Oh, and just for the record, Osama is not a Muslim, he is a Christian, always has been, whatever that matters…seriously, where are you getting your information from, you’re all so full of anger and insults, flying a flag, and you don’t even have your facts even slightly right! Hmm, sound familiar. One Love, J

  • Charley G.

    Al Qaeda commander Fery hakim will be impeached for his future jihad


    This Quran burning was started by a Pentecostal fanatic….ALL PENTECOSTALS are hateful rabid fanatics, they always have someone to hate as part of their religion. They are ALL dangerous people look at Terry Jones, enough said.
    Theirs is a satanic cult.


    All Muslims mosques and kurans should be banned from the United States.

  • John

    The Imam can build the Rev. can burn … neither are concerned with reconciliation, only notoriety. Comparing a national allegiance to a religious faith is a bit if a stretch … Al Qeada knows no national allegiance or borders … just ask them.

    • KPMc

      But we do!!!

  • Frank

    Let’s end all schools run by the Catholic church since the priests have been abusing children for decades. We should not allow a Catholic church with in two hundred yards of any school. Our children deserve to be free of fear from predatory men hiding behind the veneer of the clergy.


    • A Christian

      Anti-Catholic bigotry.

    • P.M.

      good analogy – like Jon Stewart said – there should be no catholic churches within 200 feet of a playground.

  • J

    Mayor Bloomberg so so wrong and such a goddam caterer. If you run for any other office I will not vote for you and so will many other New Yorkers.

  • adrian herr


  • Aquila729

    After the Ft. Hood shooting, committed by a crazed Islamist, Obama called for “tolerance”. After the Christmas Day bomber succeeded in igniting his underwear on a plane over Detroit, Obama called for “tolerance”. After the botched Times Square bombing, both Obama and Bloomberg, called for “tolerance”. If you want to get into the mindset of the liberal left, simply replace the word “tolerance” with “cowardice”!

  • Dave

    Obama is a jihadi Muslkim. Impeach and hang him for treason, for siding with the enemy, and for lying in their cause.

    • KPMc

      Why don’t you just say where your real prejudice’s lie. At least I’d have respect for you for stating what you truly believe. Do you have a white robe and hood in your closet?

      • KPMc


        You call what those in-bred mutants do and say intelligence? When they scream ‘White Power’ I cringe looking at the bottom of the barrel, blaming everyone else for the sorry mess they are in.

        I see them giving the heil salute meanwhile they would have been exterminated in Hitler’s purge of mental patients and people with sub-human level IQs.

        If you can look at one of those rallies and honestly say you are proud to be white based on their example then I feel bad for you.

      • no2mosque

        Hey KPMc… Now the KKK had intelligence when it came to thinking outside the box.
        The KKK originated in Corbin KY and so did Kentucky Fried Chicken… You see where I am going with this Statement.
        Maybe we need a White robe and hood in office to take over the Muslim Closet freaks spot??

  • tim

    Sure thing Ivan, extend the tolerance out into the atlantic

  • tim ray

    Thats interesting Ivan then whats taking so long? Yes, Bush did put them there but Osama obama IS NOT WORKING TO BRING THEM home. I suppose you think hes working on the economy too?

  • Ivan D.

    When Saudi Arabia allows a memorial to be built in Mecca, then they can build their mosque near ground zero. See if religious tolerance extends that far.

    • A Christian

      It is intolerant that Christians can not enter Mecca. There are mosques in Rome which is the city where the Vatican resides. Moslems are allowed to visit the Vatican. Being tolerant of other faiths is not stupidity.

      • Humanitarian

        Thats why you should take pride in being a Chrisitian. Im a muslim, and from this point of view Im totally on your side. One should strongly present his/her religion, not to hide it from others

    • KPMc

      So you think America’s freedom’s should be limited by what the rest of the world does?

      So much for being the LEADER of the FREE world.

    • Yola

      Do you think what muslim dont tolerant? And you want to be like their?

  • tim ray

    Ahmed, I cannot agree more about getting the troops home, however this sick muslime THEY VOTED FOR is keeping our troops there!

    • Ivan D.

      Bull!! Bush put the troops there. Obama is the working to bring them home.

    • P. M.

      Tim – what did you just start paying attention in January of 2009 ? Who put the troops there? And keep fooling yourself if you think it had anything to do with democracy or ridding Saddam or whatever excuse the fool YOU voted in started the war for. Obama brought the combat troops home – he left 50,000 there for peace keeping – just like we still have troops in Germany and Korea – you have alot of catching up to do.

  • Ahmed Rashad

    BTW, I don’t really care if the Mosque is built close or far from ground zero. That’s not the issue. They can keep dancing around the subject all year long for all I care.

    The burning is the real issue.

  • Ahmed Rashad


    9/11 was a tragic and barbaric event. (to kill non combatants in Islam is murder)

    10 years ago, terrorists in Egypt said that all Egyptians (except them) do not qualify as Muslims. We blamed them and their twisted minds.

    That’s what they do, twist things to fit their agenda. I don’t know why you have to blame it on a religion or a race.

    I’ve seen a lot of hate and aggression against everything I hold holy. Yet, I’ll never disrespect another religion or belief system. If you don’t want the mosque, then get your troops out of the region, and stop preaching democracy, equality, and freedom.

    Ps. Civilians killed by American troops and private contractors in Iraq and Afghanistan are estimated in the 10s of thousands. (not counting torture and rape)

    • P.M.

      well said Ahmed. But people like Tim don’t get the irony – supposedly we’re fighting for democracy and freedom for the Iraqi people(Muslims) but don’t believe in democracy at home for some of their fellow citizens.

  • Rodin

    Freedom FROM religion.


  • tim

    Thats good Ahmed then you should build yur mosque in the middle of the atlantic. Best place for your worship. Id have more respect for someone whos into satanism.

    • KPMc

      Make sure you let your maker know that on the day of judgment so you can be pointed in the right direction.

  • Ahmed Rashad

    So much for American democracy and civilization.

    It sounds like the year 1410, not 2010.

    All those saying “Burn the Quran” and “Kill Muslims”, What’s next? The American Inquisition.

    and after that, who’s next? Latinos, Blacks, Jews?

    Ps. we too had terrorist attacks, we too lost people and property, we too suffered.

    • Nicola101

      Ahmed Rashad is it? Last time I checked it was just the Americans that burn the Koran and that say kill Muslims… Dont Muslims pretty much kill each other????

    • Dana

      You obviously don’t get it. This place to be built is under sharia law which condones suicide bombing, jihad and killing of their enemies. Their enemies are US, the west. You stupid people that let cancers like this grow in our country are what’s destroying this country. Religion is fine unless it wants to KILL the rest of humanity and take over like they do. Read their history and what they’ve been doing for thousands of years.

      • KPMc

        You weren’t just selective in your study of history I presume? You read the history of Christianity and Judaism and condemned them for their atrocities too, right? And you didn’t stop there… you studied eastern religions to find murder, mayhem and destruction that terrorized others too. Then you lumped all their adherents into one evil group and you want them all stopped too, right. So let’s ban all religions.

        Next time you study history why don’t you start about the time of the American revolution and read about how we built a country that combats peoples tendency to turn religion into a state religion which subjugates it’s people. It’s quite a brilliant concept.

  • Dan

    1. Mecca
    2. Medena
    3. Al-Kuds

    • KPMc

      Let’s play that Sesame Street game. Which one of these 4 is different than the others… Oh… I know… Number four because it is in the United States where it’s people are guaranteed freedom and liberty under the constitution… Where the minority is protected from the majority when something is unpopular or makes people uncomfortable.

      The others are in countries where they don’t cherish freedom of speech or religion. Which one do YOU want to live in?

  • Humanitarian

    Sorry for all types of extremists who cant tolerate opposing viewpoints, whether Muslim, Christian, Jew, ….
    This event was not a matter of religion. It was a matter of dogmatism, blind obedience of someone who THINKS is obeying true Islam.
    I’m a Muslim (perhaps). INSISTING on building a WTC mosque isnt such a good idea to me as well. Its not necessary, it causes more tension. But considering it as an insult upon injured Americans isnt logical either. Wasnt there a single victim in the attack who had Islamic beliefs?? No one can be sure about that

    • Rodin

      Religion IS dogma.

  • steve

    You all must be unhappy at home to have this kind of hate. open the mind you have, and you will feel better!

  • Glenn Beck

    I support the mosque. AMERICA RULES

  • Joshua

    WTC mosqe is highly unacceptable and Obama will pay dearly for allowing such insult upon injured Americans.In the part of my country,Nigeria where I live,Mosqe is not allowed on our soil.

    • beur

      agree. its disgraceful to the family of the victims if that one is build. it’s like the person is already down and the suspect kick him again :(

    • P. M.

      Well then, I guess you don’t have freedom of religion in the part of Nigeria where you live.

    • uk6uep

      C’mon there are many mosque in Nigeria. Check out Abuja National Mosque. Maybe your blind if you actually live there.

  • obamaSUCKS

    Why is it taking so long for the conservatives to bring charges, impeach this administration or take up arms?
    The majority is against everything they stand for …. how long before we won’t have room to wiggle or make those decisions?

    • Ginny Kamph-White

      It Takes time for things to change they don’t happen over night it took time for the economy to go up in smoke it will take time for it to get better. If you expect it change that soon it won’t.

    • Donald Wallace

      No, you suck! Now how does that feel?


      Why because the “conservatives” don’t own the nation that’s why.
      You are a bunch of violent ignorants and need to be controlled.

  • GETitRight

    Some one needs to Impeach The United State’s Muslim President

    • Melese Zenawi

      Please craft your mind correctly

    • Meril

      The President IS NOT MUSLIM! And just for argument sake, do you take credit for the “Christians” who slaughtered (putting it lightly) the Native Americans and Mexicans on their own land when they first arrived here?? Do you take credit for the murderers who claim Christianity right before their killings?? If not, then why are we grouping all Muslims as one? What is with the hate??

      And for those who can’t seem to understand that change (especially from where the economy is) takes time. What did you this The President was, a genie? In your lives, paying off your bills takes time, finishing school takes time, change within that one particular loved one takes time, rearranging your lives takes time, ..so why wouldn’t getting an entire country back to at least having our heads above water wouldn’t take time? Calm down, and instead of going against the stream (always against The President and/or others), work with it and then you might see some change. But first, change yourselves!

      • redfeather

        Meril..I am in fact half Native American I even belong to a real reservation. And no I am not christian I prefer Shamanism. This brings me to my point though.

      • Meril

        I apologize for my wording, I meant “What, did you think this President was, a genie?”

    • Donald Wallace

      Sorry, we like him!

    • P.M.

      For what? They didn’t impeach Bush after his weapons of mass deception. They didn’t impeach Bush for starting a preemptive war on a sovereign nation that had nothing to do with 9/11 (which is against our constitution). Remember the Maine.

      • GWB AGAIN

        Hillary,Obama and the rest of the dems voted for the War… He didnt make up info the CiA and UN supplied the info, Obama has lied! GW never did, name one lie that EVER came out of his mouth. Your a BUFFOON!

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