Move Over Congestion Pricing, Say Hello To ‘Traffic Pricing’

Mayor Is At It Again And Opposition Remains Fierce As Ever

NEW YORK (CBS 2/WCBS 880/1010 WINS) –– Rumors of congestion pricing’s demise has been greatly exaggerated.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg’s controversial plan to charge people to drive into key parts of Manhattan during the week was back on the highway on Wednesday.

CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer has discovered that officials have been secretly working on a hush-hush congestion pricing proposal for months.

1010 WINS’ Al Jones with Mayor Michael Bloomberg on the new congestion price plan

WCBS 880’s Rich Lamb reports on Bloomberg’s proposal to charge $10 to enter Lower Manhattan

For many drivers the mayor’s congestion pricing plan was a car wreck waiting to happen — and they were happy when state lawmakers towed it away and left it in the pound.

But it’s been resurrected and nobody is happier than the author himself.

“What a clever idea. My God, how did they think of that?” Bloomberg said to some laughter on Wednesday.

Of course, it’s going through a bit of re-branding and is now being called “traffic pricing.” And the idea is to charge drivers to come into Manhattan in order to raise money for the cash-strapped Metropolitan Transportation Authority.

Sources involved in the project said they hope to sell it to balky lawmakers by promising bus and subway service restoration, a possible fare rollback and no relief from payroll taxes for suburban businesses.

“I still think it makes so much sense. You want to dissuade people from driving because our streets are clogged,” Bloomberg said.

The project is so hush-hush that backers won’t say just how much they want to charge — Bloomberg originally sought $8 for cars and $21 for trucks — or where the dividing line will be. Bloomberg at first said south of 86th Street.

One thing that hasn’t changed is driver opposition.

WCBS 880’s Sean Adams reports gets reaction

“The economy is going to get killed,” one man told WCBS 880’s Adams.

“I think that’s a bad idea. The city is so expensive to get in and out of in parking. To do that just to get into it, I don’t think it’s a good idea,” Flushing resident Chaya Nisanov told Kramer.

“It’s gonna hurt the economy. I think most people aren’t going to bother coming in to the city. I wouldn’t,” added Deer Park’s Vipan Kapur.

“I don’t think it’s enforceable. I think it would be very difficult to implement,” said Ed Sullivan of Darien, Conn.

Another man said, “That would put us out of business, easily. Yeah, because of all the prices – the fuel, the tickets.”

Still another said, “In this marketplace, with the economy being the way it is, I just can’t see adding anymore burden.”

Sources told Kramer they’d like to have a traffic pricing bill before the Legislature sometime this year.

There was no word from Gov. Andrew Cuomo on whether he would support such a move. He’s taken a no-new-taxes pledge and “traffic pricing” is a new tax.

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  • BILL

    NYers are stupid. They voted for a Bostonian who wants to destroy NYC

  • edy

    Come on people…stop whining…this is NY…what did you expect.


  • Dave

    by the way guys, the first time around the Federal govt would have given the city 500 MILLION dollars if we would have put congestioin pricing into play. You the people said no, and then a couple months later the economy hits teh toilet and now your all crying poor and saying you don’t have jobs, yadda, yadda, yadda. You can’t have it both ways. Personally, I believe that if you live and have a vehicle registered within the 5 boroughs than you shouldn’t have to pay but if your coming from the suburbs the message needs to be to use public transportation to get here.

  • Dave

    its a great idea, just don’t give the money to the MTA use it for other things. I don’t understand what is wrong with people and why they think it should be normal to take 1 hour to go from the upper east side to battery park city by car because often thats how long it takes. Lets face it, there are too many cars in the city and there ARE viable methods of public transportation to get here and get around once you are here. Not to mention bikes which are absolutely the BEST way to see the city but people are too SCARED to share the roads with crazy drivers.

  • tell the truth

    sounds like the mayor doesn’t like being stuck in traffic with all the peasants. He likes to be able to cruise through the city from place to place, party to party. Sure, he’s worth 20 billion dollars, and the man wants to be able to fly through town. He doesn’t have a problem paying a couple extra hundred bucks a week,why should you?
    He’s looking to balance the MTA, What the fuhk an I missing here. The MTA is a private corporation.They collect about 35 million dollars a day from tolls, bridges, tunnels, buses and subways. Why don’t they sell the 100 million dollars in art that they have hanging on their walls. why are we subsidizing a private corporation. Another bailout by taxpayers, just like we did with the investment banks.
    If Bloomberg loves this city so much why doesn’t he donate 5% of his net worth,which is 1 billion dollars, to the city budget crisis. Put his money where his mouth is.
    You know the truth is “Follow the Money” and you’ll see how it finds its way back to Bloomberg and his businesses.
    It’s disgusting and somebody should do away with him for the good of every New Yorker. He is so extremely rich, that he is completely out of touch with New York and New Yorkers.
    follow the Money.

  • nan

    come on! all is about money. this is not about noise, pollution or traffic…’s all BS. NYC is going to become a communist city

  • Ken

    I am one New Yorker who lives in Queens and is completely against any pricing plan on the lower east river bridges. Such a plan would strongly hit small businesses who rely on the toll free routes, new yorkers who for one reason or another can not take public transportation or need to use their cars, and, in general, is an extremely lazy way out for politicians who want to once again balance a budget on the backs of New yorkers. I am someone who will take note of any politician who votes for a pricing plan and ensure that the person does not get my vote come the next election cycle. NO HOW, NO WAY>

  • joe

    mr. bloomberg just give me a cal….please….i can solve the traffic problems in the city. no joke.

  • badman

    no more. pay for what you use. no more free street parking either. free access and parking are just another form of welfare. if you don’t like it, take the bus/subway, or just stay out of manhattan.

    there’s already a cost to drive into manhattan. it’s just that the drivers don’t pay it. everyone else does, in the form of dealing with noise, pollution and too many cars.

    there are mass transit options for handicapped people, too. you don’t NEED a car. you’re just lazy.

    • A Queens Driver

      I sincerely hope you never experience the loss of your mobility and become dependent on others and need to use the services you mention. You don’t know what it’s like unless you’ve been there. Those who are physically able drive themselves rather than rely on a public service like Access-A-Ride to do it for them are being self-sufficient and not taking advantage of disabled services they don’t need. Calling handicapped/disabled people lazy is just plain ignorant.

      • badman

        you don’t need access a ride but you do need to drive? your “self-sufficiency”is very convenient for you. anyone, mobility-impaired or not, is more “self-sufficient” with a car. It’s easier and more convenient.

        Handicapped/disabled people are not lazy. But many drivers will make a million excuses not to get out from behind the wheel of their cars. they are lazy.

    • a

      I don’t need a car? I am just lazy? Yeah, my tools and materials will just appear where I need them and float around and follow me on the train from site to site. Drivers don’t pay to drive into Manhattan, other people do? Where have you been? Do you know the tolls and meters i pay per day? The cost to register my truck? Fuel taxes? Sorry the way your mass transit ride is so cheap is because DRIVERS are subsidizing it!

      • Eric

        maybe we should pay to breath in Manhattan also. Eric

      • badman

        you have to drive for work the same way a delivery truck driver has to. tolls and fees are a cost of doing business. it’s like any other job – there are other people that will do it, fees and all, if you don’t want to. work somewhere else.

        it’s a big, mean world. life is tough for everybody. this is NYC. not a place for crybabies.

  • UESmel

    I think it’s a really good idea to give the MTA more money since they’ve shown that they handle finances so well.

    Let’s face the facts.this isn’t about traffic. This is about money (aka taxes).

    I voted for the other guy.

  • A Queens Driver

    So now our illustrious mayor wants to charge us to drive into his glorified borough??? Wait, I forgot, to him, Manhattan IS ALL of New York City. Last time I checked, there were FIVE boroughs of NYC. Why should we be charged to drive in our own city??? What about disabled people and those with mobility issues who use their cars as their only means of transportation? Some of the mayor’s constituents cannot take public transportation because of walking difficulties, including me. I cannot walk long distances, or stand for an hour to wait for a bus, or climb endless subway steps. I rely on my car as my sole means of transportation to be an independent and functioning member of society. Without my car, I would be dependent on others to drive me around. Charging me to drive from Queens to my doctor appointments in Manhattan is ridiculous!!

  • kabir

    Bloomberg is not mayor He is Bed Bug, He trying suck blood from middle and lower income pepole. STOP Him imidiatly, we are tried of his activity,

  • Eugene Victor

    I’m glad the idea is being revived. We have to get New Yorkers out of their cars and into public transit. The streets of the city can’t accommodate the number of drivers who want to use them. We need disincentives to drive into the corr of the city, and charging people is a great way. This will be a huge benefit to working class New Yorkers, who, for the most part don’t own cars and aren’t part of the problem. I wish Mayor Bloomberg the best of luck.

    • frankiev

      You obviously are someone who doesn’t HAVE to drive into the city. You also are under the impression that this will cut back on traffic. IT WILL NOT! It is just a ploy to collect more money from people who have no alternative but to drive into the city. Do you really think people want to sit in traffic, pay $3 an hour at a parking meter if they can find one or pay $30 and hour in a parking lot and get your car dinged up. THEY DO NOT. THEY JUST NEED TO.

      • badman

        if you HAVE to drive in, pay for it. what a load of BS. nobody HAS to drive in. get your fat butt out of the car and into the subway.

        if you don’t like it, get a job somewhere else. there are other people that can use your job and will take public transit to get there.

        lazy, selfish and with a grand sense of self-entitlement. this country is going to hell bc of people like you.

      • Eugene Victor

        Hey Frankie,

        Badman basically said what I would say in response to you. I would add that there are usually municipal parking lots around suburban train stations. No one has to drive into the city. And even if you can argue that you do have to drive into the city (perhaps you are allergic to people, and can’t be on trains), you are the exception. People drive into the city because it is a reasonable alternative for them. Make it less reasonable, and fewer people will drive. Don’t get mad, Frankie, there will be fewer cars on the road for you.

    • MannyWar

      To all of those who like this idea,let me ask you something. What about the worker who has to make deliveries into the city everyday. How is he supposed to get his goods there. Via subway??! Thats not going to happen! So by charging trucks $21 to get into the city,only going to do one thing…cost more people their jobs. When the company has to cough up more money, its the workers who pay for it. Its that simple. This is going to put more people out of work.

  • Ronnie from Morris Park

    Billionaireberg just can’t stop with this added tax to people in this city. A millionaires tax is a no go but punching the middle class in the pocket is ok. Talk about killing small business think about a company with 5 trucks driving into Manhattan every day. Thats 125 dollars a day at 5 days a week is 625 a week at a total of 2500 a month. You might as well cut back on 1 or 2 trucks costing what 3 or 4 jobs Thanks Billionaireberg

  • tellhimitstime2go

    mayor doomsberg is at it again

  • Hot Blooded

    I think Johnny is right. Time to cut the freebies

  • Hot Blooded

    I don’t understand something. They call it “congestion pricing” as if they want to cut down congestion, but they went out of their way to cause congestion by closing up Times Square & Herold Square. I’M CONFUSED!

  • Johnny

    Maybe they should consider reducing the amont of people collecting welfare and other freebies that burden the rest of us. The city needs to learn to work with what it has.

    • harriet in queens

      Yeah, lets the kiddies stave to death, or live in the fresh kills land fill picking through the garbage, get idea

      • Johnny

        How about some personal responsibility instead of relying on other to provide for you. Perhaps it’s something beyond your intellect to grasp.

  • Dave


  • jtorres

    Revrse some service cuts, delay the next fare hike? Yeah, right. Until the law gets passed and then it’s “OH, sorry, we were wrong, we can’t do any of that. But the congestion pricing stays” As usual. And politicians wonder why the public doesn’t trust them.

  • Angel From The Bronx

    Bloomberg is a Snake! He knows we are doing bad as it is already. He lost My support.

  • JACK

    This to me is a joke. Congesting Pricing will not solve the MTA’s Money Problems. Taxes in NY are too high already. Toll Prices are a joke. Everyone should just blow through the toll booths and just skip paying on the bus and subway. What are they going to do. Arrest everyone. Stop the trains and buses. I already drive through tolls without paying with fake plates. Its time for New Yorkers to stand up to the MTA. The MTA needs to cut its capital plan if it can’t afford it.

    • jtorres

      You are not standing up to the MTA by blowing through tolls with fake plates. You’re just breaking the law. You want to be principled and really protest? Use your real plates, blow through the tolls and refuse to pay the tickets and fines you’ll get. THAT’S standing up for what you believe in. Your way is cowardice.

      • alex

        I agree with you jtorres

  • Godzilla

    And turn all the outer borough transit hubs (Flushing, Forest Hills, Downtown Brooklyn) into pollution-filled park n rides for suburbanites.

    • harriet in queens

      only if the actually increase service, out here in flushing it’s dicey enough, and service on the weekend is optional, at best

  • Matt

    Uh huh, sure it is. It will never happen.

  • TheTruth

    We pay the highest taxes, ridiculously high toll prices, and lets not even start on transit. What do we get for all this? Roads not even suitable in 3rd world countries to drive on, more traffic due to having to make room for bike lanes, and a transit system that’s “going your way”…rarely!

  • TheTruth

    We need a mayor that isn’t so out of touch with the majority of the population. A mayor with real vision, intellect and the capacity to come up with new different ways of generating revenue for this city instead of the same old BS politics of hurting the avg. citizen that’s just trying to keep their head above water. Enough with the extra fees, tolls, and taxes, we’re being overcharged for everything that has to do with living in NYC as it is!!!

  • CSI

    Good for all the drivers. Goooo Bloomberg.

  • Tom

    He always get what he wanted or he won’t quit!!!!!If you like London so much, you should move to London, Bloomberg.

  • DanTe

    Just wall in Manhattan with Der Fuhrer Bloomberg in it. It’ll be his private domain just like he wants it. The twits voted for him, they deserve it.

    Presidente For Live, Bloomie?

    • DanTe

      (Mispelln here. You twits can nitpick at it now. We all know logical constructs gives you headaches.)

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