Cops Confirm New Remains Human; Skull Also Found Along Ocean Parkway

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Police have confirmed that the latest set of bones found Monday morning at Jones Beach State Park are human remains.

Those remains, potentially those of a 9th victim, were discovered near Zach’s Bay at the park, which is about a mile and a half east of the Jones Beach water tower.

Later Monday afternoon, authorities also said that a 10th set of human remains and a human skull may have been discovered at a bird sanctuary off of Ocean Parkway, CBS 2’s Jennifer McLogan reported.

1010 WINS’ Sonia Rincon with more on where the remains were found

Investigators expanded their search for a serial killer into Nassau County Monday after investigators recovered eight bodies on Suffolk County beaches.

Police and sanitation vehicles blocked off all traffic on Ocean Parkway. A mobile sign advised drivers of a beach search that will shut down the Parkway all day.

1010 WINS’ Mona Rivera reports: Det. Lt. Kevin Smith says the killer could be anybody

About 125 searchers, some with dogs and others on horseback, hit Tobay Beach and Jones Beach State Park to scour the area for evidence.

Police were also searching a nearby 550-acre wildlife preserve and a 30-acre pond. They’re using cherry pickers supplied by the Fire Department to peer above the heavy brush to look for any evidence.

Residents near Gilgo Beach, where the search originated, were shocked by the recent gruesome discoveries.

“To find all these bodies here, we’re shocked. We’re a close community, leave our doors unlocked,” one neighbor said.

None of the four most recently recovered bodies have been identified.

“We have no information on the sex, or age or any other information on the four remains we found,” said Richard Dormer, Suffolk Police Commissioner.

WCBS 880’s Mike Xirinachs reports: Is There More Than One Killer?

Police, however, have ruled out the remains are those of 24-year-old Shannan Gilbert of Jersey City. She disappeared May 1 after running from a client’s house in Oak Beach.

The initial search for Gilbert back in December led police to the bodies of four women wrapped in burlap, unburied in the thick brush.

WCBS 880’s Mike Xirinachs reports: Beachgoers Affected By Investigation

All four worked as escorts who advertised on Craigslist and worked in various Nassau hotels.

Police have been troubled by a lack of clues, despite an extensive number of crime scenes to investigate.

Police told CBS 2 they were getting closer to finding the killer, but declined to provide further details.

However, Det. Lt. Kevin Smith told 1010 WINS’ Mona Rivera that reports suggesting a suspect may soon be identified and that such a suspect could be in law enforcement are not true.

“For anyone to come out and say that it’s a specific person, a specific occupation, or a specific type is unfair and I think it’s mere suspicion, it’s mere speculation,” Smith said. “Right now, it could be anybody.”

Lawrence Kobilinsky, professor of John Jay College of Criminal Justice, suspects the killer may be familiar with police procedures.

“Either he knows what he’s doing and understands what crime scene investigation is all about or he has just been lucky up until now,” said Kobilinsky. “He is very comfortable working here or else he would never have used this site. He knows this area, knows it is relatively deserted.”

Is enough being done to stop the killer? Sound off in our comments section.

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  • Chas H.

    Reality check….

    1. Most serial killers are white men in their 20’s or 30’s. True. But not all… Wayne Williams of the famous Atlanta killings in the early 1980’s was black, as were the DC Snipers. There are currently many female serial killers in U.S. Prisions, but they usually kill by non violent means. They may kill for years before someone finds the common link to the deaths they cause. (i.e.a nurse who poisons her victims, or a mother who kills her children or family members)

    2. Most serial killers are extremely intelegent. True… But they are also very sick people.

    3. Serial killers are fasinated with death. False, serial killers want control. The ultimate control is to kill someone. Look at Ted Bundy, or the BTK killer Dennis Rader or the unsolved Zodiac killings. All wanted complete control of their victims and then tried to control the media. I sure now that this persons crimes have come to light, we will get some type of media flash from him.

    4 Serial killers will kill victims who match their own racial profile. True. Serial killers need to be able to blend with society in order to find their victims. When the Atlanta killings were taking place many people claimed it was a race war or the KKK trying to kill all the black children. etc. and a white person could not walk into a black neighborhood without being a suspect. ( I live in Atlanta and I remember it very well. I was 12 at the time. ) The truth was it was a black man that helped out at the local boys and girls club that had access to hundreds of children and no one suspected him of anythig until he was caught.

    The media breeds serial killers with shows such as CSI, Bones and Dexter, False. A serial killer has a mental defect that prevents him or her from feelling any sympathy for his victims. It’s called a sociopath. To a serial killer a person is an object and nothing more. When they kill they can not “feel” the victims pain in the way a normal person would be able to do so. This is why a soldier coming back from war has a difficult time. They feel the pain of what they had to do. For a serial killer to kill someone is just like going to the store to buy a gallon of milk. It’s also why there are not 1000’s of serial killers all over the place. But only 3 or 4 at any one time. It’s a mental disorder. Granted one we don’t know much about, but we learn more everytime we catch one of these SOB’s

    Lets keep our head on straight and hope the police, and FBI can find this a$$H-Le before someone else becomes his next victim

  • Moral Truth

    Serial Killers are NEVER Native American Indians….and thats the moral truth.

    • Mr. Armenia

      Nor are they ever found to be Inuit.

  • Hank Warren

    Suffolk cops that are too busy writing speeding tix instead of catching a serial killer, yet another violation of our rights. Add it to the list of gov’t violations of our right:
    They violate the 1st Amendment by placing protesters in cages, banning books like “America Deceived II” and censoring the internet.
    They violate the 2nd Amendment by confiscating guns.
    They violate the 4th and 5th Amendment by molesting airline passengers.
    They violate the entire Constitution by starting undeclared wars for foreign countries.
    Impeach Obama and sweep out the Congress.
    (Last link of Banned Book):

    • Reality


      No one gives a sh!t about your paranoid rantings.

  • jayhuf

    I can’t believe i am the only one here to note the irony of this tragic story. Isn’t “CSI” a TV series on CBS? Isn’t this a CBS website? Maybe CBS should cancel it’s TV shows that are training a better breed of serial killer. Come on libs isn’t it for the “collective good” of our society.

  • VAVOOM. Hey It's Jared!!!!!

    i js dnt undrs stand!!!!?

  • Annette

    I am wishing good luck to the Nassau and Suffolk police who will work tirelessly in their hunt for this monster. He is smart but he is insane which gives the cops an edge, He has used throwaway phones to taunt the families which shows he is unbalanced. He will make a mistake somewhere and the cops will get him. My heart goes out to the families of the victims…they love their children no matter the dubious choice of career they chose.

  • Roscoe

    Does anyone remember a similar MO in Atlantic City? Prostitutes found dead along a secluded road? Wonder if it is the same guy?

  • Joh

    Basicallly, YOUNG AMERICAN WOMEN are being murdered, I’m outraged & sad. Go get him, COPS!!! We’re behind the Police Investigators.

    • Casual Observer

      I’m sure you stay up late every night brooding in a dark corner vowing that you will never enjoy life again until this evil doer is captured.

      Cut the cr@p you p0ser. Push the shall0w “I’m hoighly concerned for humanity” PR act on someone else.

      • Joh


        You make me cry.

  • Fred

    wrong STUPID. the atlanta serial killer was BLACK. the DCsnipers were BLACK.

    • Esther

      Quit it! They weren’t black, and you know it.

  • anonymouse

    That’s because non-serial killers, those getting caught, are the less intelligent inferior breed of criminal.

  • Joshua

    Or Hispanics.

    • Vendetta

      Or African American

    • Casual Observer

      Or Asian

  • Susan

    These bodies remained undiscovered for so long because much of the “park” area is closed to human beings to protect the habitat of shore birds breeding and nesting area, and other wildlife habitat. I grew up on Long Island. The park police took trespassing onto those areas very seriously. I wonder if its the guy (cop) who was always chasing the teens away? Does anyone know how old the oldest body is?

  • Robert

    Parents- teach your little girls that prostitutes have a homicide rate 18 x greater than normal, sane women- women who are not stupid or addicted enough to chance herpes, AIDS, HPV (cancer) and death on a daily basis. Tell your kids that nothing good will come of a them working at intruding into or helping others break their marriage vows. “Pretty Woman” is a lie from Hollywood. The reality of prostitution is danger, drugs, no real loving relationships, post traumatic stress syndrome, rape, PEDOPHILIA and death. We don’t want it legalized, it is bad for our society and bad for the women stupid enough to do it.

    • Blueyz133

      Unfortunately not all professional sex workers come from functional families, where the parents would want to councils their children properly. A lot of these women come from drug addicted parents and or prostitues themselves. A lot of these women’s futures are stamped on their foreheads the day they are born.

  • Michael

    Doesn’t have to be a cop to know crime scenes. Just a big fan of CSI or Bones or dare I say… Dexter. Hollywood gives lessons on serial killing.

  • dsobwick

    For the guy living in Montana, ever hear of Nathaniel Bar Joah??? Likes to eat children and did the deed in Montana

    • Danny

      Bar Joah was originally from Massachusetts. Didn’t move to Montana until after he was released from prison the first time.

    • Alan Foos

      I’m from Montana, Wick, where men are men – and sheep are nervous. I said FROM, I don’t live there, anymore. Don’t ask me why, either.

  • Gamesta

    The killer knows computers and networks. He knows how to mask his MAC and IP addresses so the logs from CraigsList wont help at all.

    With any luck he forgot to mask his identity on one of those occasions.

    Check all of the online personals sites as well. and stuff like that. That’s where he’ll be.

    I’m guessing he lives in Long Beach.

  • Frosty the Flowman

    This may sound insensitive but are the beaches still open? I don’t want to miss the air show memorial day weekend.

    • EB

      You’re hilarious.

  • Anthony Pepe

    ritual sacrifice made on the beach?

  • sherlock holmes

    this all started from 1 missing gal that was heard screaming, they looked for her and stumbled upon all of these other bodies, bizarre, never a link found between all of these girls that were missing, doesn’t say much for missing persons bureau. as desolote as that road is, it would still be pretty ballsy to carry bodies around, I don’t think they would have done it without knowing when and where the police are, either they are a cop or have some type of scannier device. also, the burlap bags they mentioned some of the bodies were in, this is what a clammer would use, he probably thought a burlap bag wouldn’t bring any attention near the water, they should check those with shellfish permits, has to be someone local.

  • Pitot Tube

    You are a Moron. Most Serial Killers are middle aged white men.

    • Kevin Provance

      20 and 30s it not middle aged. Cite your source.

  • Jimmy The Weed

    police are way too busy harassing people for marijuana to look into stuff like this.

  • EAPoe

    A rabbit cannot possibly pass through the maze of briar aand brambles not to
    mention poison oak & ivy etc. Is this person dumping the bodies utilizing a chopper?

    • Texas Twister

      I’m a land surveyor in the South West, USA. We have the roughest brush country in the US aside from Alaska, and I work through such undergrowth. I doudt brush stops the hardy.

  • rick

    Long Island and NYC are completely different places and environments. Just in case you don’t know this, but the USA has the most serial killers than any other country in the world ( no we are not the biggest one either, if that’s your next
    thought ) and the majority of serial killers are from the Northwest. Now, where did you say you are from again ? Scary isn’t it ?

    • Toady


      We have the “most” of a lot of things. We are almost 400 million people.

  • pops

    the suffolk strangler

  • Jim from Boston

    This case is eerily similar to a serial killer case in New Bedford, MA, 1988-1989.

    New Bedford is not too far away from LI.

  • I_support_fascist_laws

    Your “safe clean environments” won’t protect them from AIDS. You can’t give an AIDs test every customer and even if you could, sometimes it takes months after getting the virus for it to appear on a test. And codoms break….

  • Kathleen3

    This certainly doesn’t say much about police investigating missing persons, does it? How sad for the families who must wait until a serial killer forces them to do what they should have been doing all along.

    We are paying for law enforcement to protect us while police chiefs hold press conferences announcing what they will not do – enforce immigration laws. This story confirms what they failed to do. Now, my question is: What do they do?

    • bf

      What on earth does this have to do with immigration. You are a nut.

    • Steve B.

      Kathleen3 has a valid point and it’s certainly true that the police do not go looking for missing prostitutes. Unless of course they get a phone call from one in distress and then stumble on a whole lot of bodies. That said, there are thousands of missing person reports yearly around the country, too many to run to ground, way too many being women, with many being prostitutes. A lot are simply running away from “home”and not actually getting murdered or otherwise into trouble, just existing on the fringes of society. When one does, it’s very sad and unfortunately they are easy prey.

      I do hope the police get a break and catch this animal quickly.

      I do feel for the Nassau Police, who I’m certain were really, really hoping this wasn’t headed their way with today’s news being the worst possible news. To anyone who’s ever hiked or explored the JFK Bird Sanctuary, it’s just huge and there could easily be a hundred bodies in the bushes and it wouldn’t surprise me if these bodies have been there for a long, long time.

    • Michael Kirkby

      Stranger murders are the most difficult for police. Yes it’s hard on the families but it’s also hard on the investigators. People tend to forget that cops are people too with feelings. How many people live in New York City alone? The amount of daily crimes can cause a lot of things to slip through the cracks. I think I would like another look at that millionaire who one of the girls was with.

    • Guido Sarducci

      Nothing against cops, but cops are more like archeologists or historians-they are trained to go to a crime scene, figure out what happened in the past, and try to figure out who or what done it. They are not your protectors.

      The police have successfully argued in court there is no duty to protect you. If you call to report someone is coming to kill you, they’ll probably ask you if the killer has arrived yet and tell you to call back when he gets there.

      If you want protection, get a gun and learn to protect yourself.

      Don’t believe me? Ever hear the old saw about calling the paramedics, cops, and Dominoes for a Pizza and seeing who arrives first? My paramedic buddy told me he routinely responded to gun fights in the hood and passed the cops several blocks away, waiting for the gunfire to stop.

  • Htos1

    They ALL used Craigslist.Crack their accounts and track ip’s to respondents,find the matches,boom!Headshot!

    • Helios5

      i was just wondering the same thing. why haven’t they trolled craiglist’s records already? how many other craigslist crimes have been solved in a matter of hours. why is this one taking so long? makes no sense.

      • Annette

        This person is very smart. Hides his IP address and makes calls from throwaway cellphones always calling from crowded places in NYC so even if they triangulate the location it is impossible to pick him out of the crowd from surveilance cameras etc. A smart criminal is more difficult to catch but he has to slip up someday. I am wishing good luck to the police and extending my support to them in the difficult but not impossible job they have ahead of them. And PLEASE everybody remember that these murder victims had families who love them despite their dubious choice of careers.

  • Logic Speaks

    So a killer will stop killing if prostitution were legal?
    Using that logic, a theif will stop stealing if everything were free?
    You sir, are a moron.

    • Kevin Provance

      That’s not exactly a logical argument. If everything was free, there would be no theft. One cannot steal what is given away freely. A better analogy would be suggesting a pot smoker would quit doing pot if it were legal.

  • walter12

    You guys in NYC have rampant street crime, Mexican and black youth gangs, dopers and deadbeats everywhere, and serial killers, and your stupid and idiotic mayor tries to tell us about gun rights. Everyone in Montana is armed to the teeth and we have very little street crime and very few murders.

    • Auburn Dale

      AND you get federal earmarks paid for with OUR tax dollars.

      • SteveM

        One has nothing to do with the other, unless maybe you’d like Federal earmarks to buy New Yorkers guns…

    • Toady


      These killings did not occur in NYC and Long Island towns do not have mayors.

      Try to keep up.

    • cfrank

      And how many people live in Montana. 2
      And this crime scene is not in New York City, its Long Island. Check a map.

    • Jim

      Actually, we don’t. Our crime rate is as low as it was in the 1950s. You can walk the streets more safely than you could during the Johnson years. And, each day I am here, I am thankful that I do not live in Montana, surrounded by armed paranoiacs.

    • Rugbyball

      Long Islands Gun Laws are not NYC Gun Laws. Completely different. As @CFrank says, check a map :-)
      Although not as easy as the wild west of Montana, Long Island is much easier to get a gun permit than NYC, In NYC, its damn near impossible to get a hand gun permit, forget a carry or conceal permit, and hard to get a rifle permit. In L.I., as memory serves me, if your of legal age and can legally own a gun, meaning no convicts etc. You can buy a rifle with your drivers license, a small permit form filled out at gun shop, no biggie. In NYC it requires a visit to the Police Station and a lot of red tape for a rifle permit.

      Now for Montana, the acre to person ratio is HUGE, even for the cities. In NYC, we would have same ratio in persons to sq-ft as you have to persons to acres, maybe. If someone was to take a random shot in either locals, you probably wouldn’t hit anyone in Montana, In NYC, you would hit many people. It’s just the way it is. If you gave everyone in NYC a pistol and they used it to defend themselves, I could guarantee a missed shot, which test have showed even the most hand gun skilled citizen is a poorer shot under stress than one not, would hit an innocent person, maybe even a child.
      So no gun nut, for or against, myself. I don’t think handguns in NYC in the hands of everyone is a good idea. HOWEVER, pepper spray, tazers or other non-lethal defensive devices, all for it.

      • Guido Sarducci

        Yeah, just look at how well the NYPD shoots. Remember that guy who was shot reaching for his wallet? They fired hundreds of rounds at him and hit him, like, 20 times. The average gun owner civilian is a better shot than the average cop.

      • reesie

        These women were strangled…… it really doesn’t matter what the gun laws here in NY are. And to be honest I think I’d be more afraid of living in Montana……

  • Fritz Von

    Too many room temp I.Q. types, watching too much TV.

  • Klone Chaser

    Arrest Jay Palmos now.

  • Auburn Dale

    I suspect that (1) the killer IS a cop or ex-cop, and (2) the police are protecting him.

    • Uncle Iroh

      If you were a cop, would YOU want to protect a fellow officer if you knew he was an active SERIAL KILLER??? The idea is ludicrous. You seem to lack a basic understanding of human nature. Maybe go outside once in a while.

      • Auburn Dale

        If you’re a cop, you’ll protect whomever your commanders and union leaders say to protect. Part of the police culture is protecting fellow cops AT ALL COSTS.

    • danyak

      you’re a halfwit.

  • Omar

    Even if they could work legally, they’d be still risking their lives because there are too many crazies out there who post in all caps everytime the need to speak about a topic. Those people are the real criminals who should be locked up in pound me in the a$$ prison.

  • suzan

    Why dont they place camaras through that area. Makes no sense not to.

    • Jacque D' Rippeur

      Cameras cost money fool. How’s the mayor going to eat if we waste money on crime prevention? What’s wrong with you?!

  • Ann

    I don’t think that neighbor should have admitted they leave their doors unlocked. I’m sure local home invaders will be happy to read about that!

    • Alan Foos

      Ann, I think you could safely assume that they don’t leave them unlocked, anymore. Well, what with fluoride, amalgams and radiation, maybe you’re right.

  • gg

    Must be a small runt killer who picked all girls under 100 lbs….hope he gets gang rape din jail…then beaten to a bloody pulp!

    • jfx

      anyone who hopes for another human to be raped is dangerously close to serial killer mentality themselves….justice is execution, nothing more

  • jtorres

    Legal prostitution wouldn’t necessarily have prevented this from happening. this is the work of a sick individual. Of course, these women made easy targets but some serial killers couldn’t care less what you do. Just as long as they can grab you

    And how can the police stop the killer when they have no clues to go on? This isn’t Criminal Minds where they find a serial killer in an hour. At least they are searching and maybe they’ll be able to unearth informatio that will lead them to the muderer.

  • J

    This is the work of a white man. And like FASCISTSLAWS, prostitution should be legal since our communist government is so concerned with taxing Americans to death!

    • Jaleema Rubbles


      Please explain how this is the work of Whitey. Show your work.

      • Whitey

        Whitey is the only one who works around here.

      • Kevin Provance

        Statistically speaking, most serial killers *are* white and extremely intelligent. Pick any John Douglas novel, the man who pioneered the FBI behavioural unit.

    • reesie

      J….I live in upstate NY and about 13 years ago we had a serial killer singling out prostitutes…….he’s African American. Serial Killers know no race know no gender….

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