I SURE WISH WE FELT THAT WAY ABOUT OUR GREAT COUNTRY, YOU EITHER LIVE THERE OR HAVE A REASON TO VISIT THEN GO HOME……

http://www.examiner.com/republican-in-orlando/catherine-forester

Ah, majority rules? So, our community doesn’t want any negroes around, and we vote on that, is that all right, too?

Have to wonder though if the camers turn up landscapers that are hiring illegals, will they prosecute?

Actually Dave, a lot of people go to the Merchant Marine Academy for spoting events and other activities. True, most people take Steamboat Road in the Village of Great Neck and only enter Kings Point at the border but as one who has worked in KP there’s an awful lot of people who get lost looking for the academy.

Fine Dave. Let’s make a pact, I won’t come in, if you don’t come out. Deal?
We both win.

Your shotgun is going to be taken away from you, Cowboy! And cameras deter crime they don’t prevent it! Nothing except a complete change in the morality of the world will prevent crime! Those guards and cameras deter crime in prison, if you don’t understand deterrence you don’t understand how the US won the Cold War, But you probably are much too young to remember that! And you sure didn’t learn about in public schools…. After you wake up, grow up!

Lovable Curmudgeon is practically an exemplar of why you may soon, in your lifetime, find yourself without the freedom to protect yourself from criminals who don’t obey laws, by definition, or from laws expressly designed to savage the non-privileged citizens who are bound under them . Maybe he/she, or those in his/her “social category” have the money, and/or the elite caste status to live in an area where private police departments exist, where you can festoon the neighborhood with security cameras like ornaments on an overladen Christmas tree, and where, when the unmentionable castes, criminal or not, enter into the protected zone they are quickly or immediately met by an armed authority with legal right to discharge a weapon. The aforementioned security paid for by said aforementioned aristocrats–directly from their pockets or indirectly from their culling of money and power from your slave labor in the system they control.

Almost all of the rest of us are not violent criminals, but we also will not have the resources at our leisure to command our self-protection, our family’s protection, or other decent citizens’ protection via some surrogate armed protection force that answers to us or else. As well, most of us would not wish to sacrifice the freedoms of our privacy and autonomy for such security, as such sacrifice is odious and unnecessary in order to secure ourselves, to what degree security in this life can be had or reasonably desired.

Lovable Curmudgeon, at the heart of it, doesn’t understand the consequences of his/her desires if enacted or doesn’t care if your family is attacked after you have been legally disarmed, so long as his/her family is protected. And, of course, privacy, and the abuse of it, matters far less to those who wish to do the watching or who hold dominion over the watchers.

The above is what you must come to understand. History teaches you this tough lesson to swallow–a truth we understandably do not want to believe about many of those around us, but which we must face, or otherwise be left increasingly to the perils of our self-deception. Lovable Curmudgeon can only be in one of two categories here: either he/she is a willing fool, or he/she understands what will happen to the non-elite in an unarmed society and simply is indifferent to this, or worse will derive satisfaction to our plight.

Why Lovable Curmudgeon, and the very significant number of like-minded individuals have come to this position is inconsequential to the situation: be it cowardice, be it sadism, be it unchecked opportunism, be it insanity. It simply doesn’t matter.

What matters is that you understand, THAT YOU UNDERSTAND, throughout history, there have always been a significant number of people in every society who at best care not that their whims are destructive to those around them or at worst act not on whim at all but with a purpose to harm those they see as chattel beneath them. Lovable Curmudgeon and those in agreement with Lovable Curmudgeon are not simply people with which you disagree.

They are people at which you are at odds; and it is the safety and the freedoms of your families and loved ones that are in the balance.

While you still can guarantee your right to self-protection by legal fiat, you best do so. Elsewise, Lovable Curmudgeon and his/her ilk will use legal fiat to see to it that you defend yourself as an outlaw or suffer the ravages put upon the law-abiding citizens in the lower castes of societies rendered evil by the law itself.

Rich & Curmudge – why don’t you girls settle this once and for all, with a tickle-fight!

They also deter crime. That is a form of protection.

So if I have a legitimate reason to be there, tell me how this DOESN’T violate the 4th amendment? They are still doing a search and seizure – and by your own admission, I should be able to go ANYWHERE – that includes a gated community, without such a thing happening.

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The Fourth prohibits UNREASONABLE search and seizure.

The license plate on vehicles is generally on the exterior of the vehicle, so there is no reasonable expectation of privacy to prevent the police from running your tag…. get over it.

Two things:

First, this article has been edited since it was originally posted. It had originally said something to the effect of “the cameras will run your license plate and if you have a criminal record it will be immediately reported to the police.” This has now been changed and removed.

Secondly, please learn to read yourself. I never said it was wrong to scan license plates, which cops do quite regularly when behind a vehicle. However, my point is that you are being targeted merely on the premise that because you have a criminal record you will be considered a suspect in a crime. That was the inference given by the article itself. If this is not the case, what other reason is there to see if you have a criminal record or not? They aren’t tracking for the sake of tracking. Let’s take the example of the robbery in the woman’s garage. According to the logic presented here in this article, if you happened to have a criminal record for whatever reason you would automatically be considered a suspect in this crime. Now, considering that criminals aren’t as dumb as anyone thinks, they could easily have taken a car that does not have a criminal record associated with it, mask the license plate, put on a false one etc to escape detection by the police. As a result, the one’s most likely being targeted are most likely frequently to be innocent people who just happened to have a criminal record for some stupid event they did in their youth, like I said in my comment.

In the future, please more closely read the aticle yourself before saying others are jumping t paranoid conclusions. Furthermore, it would be important for you to actually understand my point instead of erecting a straw man in place of it and arguing about things I never even talked about.

IF YOU “ACCEPT” THE TSA… STAY AWAY FROM ME! THEY ARE PART OF THE “SAME” PLAN TO INDOCTRINATE THE PUBLIC TO “ALLOW” BEING VIOLATED!

If the woman who had her ring stolen would have had a gun that night I bet you she would still have her ring too.