State Senate Republicans Wrestle With Legalizing Gay Marriage

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — The issue of gay marriage in New York was in the hands of the State Senate’s Republicans Thursday who were divided over whether to bring the controversial measure to a vote.

The Republican leader of the state Senate, which controls the fate of the measure, emerged from yet another closed-door meeting Thursday morning with no plan to bring the issue to a vote. Dean Skelos, a Long Island Republican, gave the brief update after meeting with New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, a supporter of same-sex marriage.

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Volunteers spent part of last night calling thousands of supporters in a few remaining swing districts, urging them to pressure their lawmakers to vote for the state’s Marriage Equality Act, which passed the state assembly Wednesday night.

An unofficial count in the State Senate leaves the issue at a 31-31 tie.

Democrat Manhattan Assemblyman Daniel O’Donnell spearheaded the legislation.

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“We have a full commitment of 31. We need just one more vote,” the gay lawmaker said. “So I’m very hopeful that by the end of the week I’ll have a right to get married.”

Some Republican senators, like Andrew Lanza of Staten Island, said they’re on the fence. With the possiblity same-sex marriage closer than ever before in the state, there was passion on both sides of the aisle and from the state’s religious leaders.

“It is totally against our Torah values and the Biblical values that this country was based on as articulated by the Founders,” said Rabbi Noson Leiter.

Archbishop Timothy Dolan was also lobbying against passage through posts on his blog.

“Our beliefs should not be viewed as discrimination against homosexual people. This is not about denying rights. It is about upholding a truth about the human condition,” Dolan wrote.

Cardinal Edward Egan also opposes the bill and warns we all know what marriage is and you can’t legislate realities.

WCBS 880’s Rich Lamb reports: Egan Says We Need To Protect The Family

“Ever since I came in 2000, I’ve said to all who will listen and I’ve especially sat down quietly with our political leadership to say that this is a great mistake,” said Egan.

Egan called legalizing same-sex marriage “a great mistake.”

Thursday afternoon, Latino clergy who oppose same-sex marriage rallied outside the Bronx office of Senator Ruben Diaz Sr., the only Senate Democrat against the legislation.

WCBS 880’s Paul Murnane reports: Clergy Rally In The Bronx Against Gay Marriage

Bishop Hector El Banano, who represents New York Evangelicals, says their still in the Albany fight.

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Clergy against same-sex marriage (credit: Paul Murnane/1010 WINS)

“I mean we’re still pressing and calling and getting the word out,” he said. “But I’m aware we’re talking about 1 or 2 votes.”

In this group, there’s no compromise on this issue. One reverend said chaos and confusion can only follow the bill’s approval.

Should gay marriage be legal? Sound off in our comments section below…

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  • Mike

    Satan prevails over the church and now over the state. Let Gods will be done!

  • Pete

    I am 100% for these marriages if they can produce children, and I do not care if they come out through the rear- or the front door. Otherwise the Law of Nature should not be abused.

    • Rodin

      Ever hear of the “Peter Principle? Basically it states that everyone reaches a point where they become incompetent. That is your starting point. You got here too late and the party’s over… at least until tomorrow.

      Had you joined in time you would know that your claim is baseless.

      EVERY SPECIES has an amount of same sex activity, in humans there is a cross-cultural constant of about 10%. FACT.

      I’m sure you meant to be clever with your comment, witty, amusing. Instead, you showed yourself IGNORANT.

      Go back to NATURE and learn something. Leave your prejudices and misinformations at Nature’s door so you can. Then blather.

  • Dale Auburn

    I still wonder why opponents refuse to give SPECIFIC details on exactly HOW gay marriage has supposedly “harmed” traditional marriage.

    The challenge is quite simple: Just identify a SPECIFIC heterosexual couple whose marriage has suffered SPECIFIC damage (financial or otherwise) because of a SPECIFIC gay couple’s marriage. Oh, and please be SPECIFIC – names, cities, court rulings, links to media coverage.

    I’ll be waiting.

  • Rodin

    You are “a 27 yearS old doctor” who can’t write. Good luck with your search, gold digger!

    • Michael H.

      Spammer. Read the comment again. Definitely a spam account. CBS needs to hire more moderators and have an actual system of logging in.

  • Robert Ramirez

    I really think the government needs to take away the tax exemptions when they do rally and try to brainwash their followers. This is rediculous. Heteromarriage is rediculous as hell as well. They cheat continuously and it means nothing we might as well just outlaw all the tax exemptions for hetero married individuals since they are getting an advantage not afforded to others. Or forget the laws of intestacy. What are we arguing about. I see marriage as an expensive bond to break, I’d rather live together and kick them out when im done, this will save me the expensive divorce and all the other drama, if gay folks want that madness i’d say let them enjoy it just like the rest of us.

  • Rogelio Guiterrez

    every war and everything that the Babble tries to protect is at the will of depriving something from something else. religion=war, equals control and I say test free will and free thought. I am really impressed by all these comments here. Very good arguments. I say let people love who they shall and at the end of the day Religious institutions attempt to control everyone who follows them. Think and believe freely. Remember the one day when blacks and whites could not marry, did the babble tell them it was wrong. Im sure some fool of the ministry was out saying God was against that. Let’s grow the hell up

  • Dale Auburn

    Has anybody ever noticed how opponents refuse to give SPECIFIC details on exactly HOW gay marriage has supposedly “harmed” traditional marriage.

    The challenge is quite simple: Identify a SPECIFIC heterosexual couple whose marriage has suffered SPECIFIC damage (financial or otherwise) because of a SPECIFIC gay couple’s marriage. Oh, and please be SPECIFIC – names, cities, court file numbers, links to media coverage.

    I’ll be waiting.

  • littlestar

    Why do you run Michael ? Liiilestar doesn’t want to hurt anyone. Of course they are two unrelated topics, the real issue is rights. Peoples rights. The people who comprise other nations. ” Some other ” nation wants the bomb realy bad. They consider it a fundamental right to protect itself. Why do you choose not to ansewer ? Could it be that some nations don’t have that ” defensive ” right ? Could it be that some people don’t have that right to be married ? When the lambs stop screaming let me know Mikey boy… Luv ya !

    • Michael H.

      If you’re going to push the issue, if one nation has the right to the bomb, all nations have the right to the bomb. Why should we dictate to other nations whether they can develop their own weapons? We’re the only one that’s actually used them, and on a CIVILIAN population.

      Are you done derailing the conversation?

      • littlestar

        Thanks pal ! You are neither a hypocrite or a coward. Now go out and find a nice Lesbian girl.

    • Rodin

      TO: littlestar.

      RE: All your comments

      You are not worth an answer.

  • littlestar

    Michael H – It requires no expliantion realy. I simply view gay people as being intolerant of the opposite sex. Also don”t you think that all nations on earth have a right to defend thier country as they choose to. I mean isn’t that thier right ? If you agree with the ” marriage equality ” bill for the functionaly insane, aren’t you compelled to agree with let’s say, nuclear equality ? I know my spelling sucks bro. Sorry. Luv ya !

    • Michael H.

      Your lack of intelligence never ceases to amaze me. How do you not choke on your own tongue?

      • littlestar

        Dear Sir, ansewer the question.

      • Michael H.

        yes, that was an ad hominem attack. The problem is, I have to lower myself to your level to debate you, and you’ve already mastered your own little domain down there.

      • Michael H.

        and what you have given as an argument is called a straw man argument. Nuclear weapons have nothing to do with gay marriage. There’s no point in answering your “question” since it has nothing to do with the topic at hand.

  • PMM

    YES, people ARE free to live how ever they want for their (maybe) 70 or 80 years in this world.
    But, they WILL get what is coming to them for abiding by G-d’s word or NOT abiding by His word in the next world.
    It behooves everyone to spend some time thinking about that.
    “If ya wanna play, ya gotta pay.”

  • littlestar

    I hope that you guys are right that this is not a terrible sin. I’d put my money on Jesus if I were you. Please no violent or hate filled responses. Thanks ! Luv ya !

  • Carew Marcus


    • Rodin

      Keep your faith and bigotry out of my face. It’s time for freedom FROM religion and ignorance.

      Good without gods.

      • littlestar

        Hey Rodent ! You are intolerant of the opposite sex. Doesn’t that make you a bigot ?

      • Michael H.


        how in the h-e-double hockey sticks did you come to that conclusion? How does being pro-marriage equality equate to somebody being “intolerant of the opposite sex”???

      • Rodin

        Married 33 years to the same WOMAN, first and only marriage. No children (3 Dogs) to avoid breeding the likes of you.

        @ Michael H.

        Weeds breed.

    • Eric

      And just what are Catholic priests doing with their fingers in the eyes of God? When you make such an assine statement that Cuomo is “trying to put his fingers in the eyes of God”, look to your own people first as they molest little children. How dare you judge others until you clean your own house?

      • Finbar

        Oh sure, all Catholic priests had sex relations with children. I hate to lower my self, but you really are a d- – k.

  • Rodin

    Why won’t my comment about Dolan take? Just the one about the Jew. Anyone at CBS covering the non-Cardinal?

  • Rodin

    @ Rabbi Leiter

    “It is totally against our Torah values and the Biblical values that this country was based on as articulated by the Founders,” said Rabbi Noson Leiter.

    David hit on Jonathan. Exemplary! The Babble is nothing if not a dirty book about murder and mayhem, adultery and debauchery, genocide and extermination all in the name of Yahweh.

    • littlestar

      Wow that’s cool ! I never knew that David hit on Jonathan ! did he want to marry him also ?

  • pugphan

    Liberalism is an atheistic abomination. Republicans should remember Mat: 19:3-12
    Christ said: Some are born that way, they aren’t meant to marry! smokersodysseycom

    • Michael H.

      pugphan, you are ignorant of your own words. Matthew 19:3-12 refers to EUNUCHS not gays.

      • Micha

        hahahahahaha!! Michael H, i think i love you!

  • PMM

    Republicans who vote for this abomination are finished as Republicans.
    I wouldn’t expect anything different from the liberal democrats. As Michael Savage says “Liberalism is a mental disease”.

  • michell

    Lohan;This only regards the organization and its funds.

  • Michelle

    Stop asking me to recognize someone’s fettish. Our country grants liberties but is not required to license, regulate, and consecrate them. My senator represents a neighborhood of Irish, Italians, Blacks, Orthodox-Jews, and Pakistani Moslems. Not one of these groups wants this. Yet she will vote for it. In turn we will not reelect!

    • Micha

      Michelle, don’t you find it odd that your list of people in your neighborhood are all people who have faced oppression in the past? The Irish living in the caves of NYC… The Italians who were hung for just being Italian…The black who up until about 70 years ago couldn’t marry a white person because it was illegal… the Jews who were forced into concentration camps and the Muslims who are all lumped into one category because of a few nut cases. Why would people who know what it feels like to be hated for something they can’t help do it to someone else?

      • Micha

        i did some research, it was actually ONLY 45 years ago that mixed marriages were legalized.

      • michelle

        Stop oppressing us and forcing our hand to cinsecrate license and fund this behavior, We have been oppressed enough and this is just another form of cultural coersion.

      • Lisa G. Staten Island, NY

        YES YES YES – I could not agree with you more. Why would people who know what it feels like to be hated for something they can’t help do it to someone else?

        I love my partner and want the same rights as every other married person in this state! It is my civil liberty as an American!

    • Micha

      “Fund” this behavior? What are you funding? The gov’t even attached a provision to this bill that no religious institution will be forced to perform a gay marriage if they don’t want to. I consider myself a Christian, but I tend to lean more towards the live and let live ideology. If God isn’t happy with gays, guess what? THEY will be the ones to face the music, not us. Jesus forgave the people who murdered him, do you think he couldn’t forgive this? Stop hating what you just can’t understand… it’s not very Christian-like.

  • Jayne

    Either allow all to marry civilly or ban civil marriage all together. The religious fanatics can do whatever they like but discrimination has no place in the secular world. (see First Amendment, Establishment Clause).

    The religious leaders need to stay out of the conversation as religious leaders or they should lose their tax exemption.

    • michell

      Thats nice. They are not allowed in a conversation. Silence them! Which ammendment allows for that?

      • Lohan

        You seem to be unaware that the law does not allow tax exempt organizations like churches to lobby. They can say whatever they want; it’s a free country – but then their tax exemption should be taken away. I quote you from the IRS, which grants tax exemptions:

        To be tax-exempt under section 501(c)(3) of the Internal Revenue Code, an organization must be organized and operated exclusively for exempt purposes set forth in section 501(c)(3), and none of its earnings may inure to any private shareholder or individual. In addition, it may not be an action organization, i.e., it may not attempt to influence legislation as a substantial part of its activities and it may not participate in any campaign activity for or against political candidates.


      • Jayne

        I didn’t say they couldn’t speak out on a personal basis. Just not in their capacity as a church leader. You know, the church that has a tax exemption because they are separate from the government.

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