Speed Cameras To Join Red-Light Cameras On New York City Streets?

Assemblyman Asks For 40; AAA Says It's Just A Money Grab, Doesn't Punish

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Twelve states and Washington, D.C. already have them and now New York City wants them — cameras to nail speeding drivers, with fines “accelerating” to $150.

Instead of “the check is in the mail,” city drivers could soon find “the ticket is in the mail” if they step on the gas pedal too hard, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.

“I firmly believe that having speed cameras will save lives,” Staten Island Assemblyman Matthew Titone said Wednesday.

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Titone is co-sponsor of a bill that would allow the city to install 40 speed cameras — they look much like the 150 red-light cameras the city already has — in an effort they believe will make the streets safer by deterring speeding.

Under the proposal:

* If you travel 5 to 10 mph over the speed limit the fine is $50

* 10 to 30 mph above the limit and the fine goes up to $75

* More than 30 mph too fast the fine doubles to $150

Assemblyman Titone said he sees another benefit in these tough fiscal times: the cameras free up cops for other things.

“I’d rather, you know, have a camera, technology monitoring traffic infractions and having a police officer out looking for the drug dealer, the pedophile,” Titone said.

Albany lawmakers can expect push back from AAA, which makes the point that while the ticket comes with a fine, drivers aren’t punished by also getting points on their license, the way it is when a police officer is involved.

“New York City’s program not involving any points … it doesn’t look like they’re out to get bad drivers off the road but just make money off of people who happen to be speeding,” AAA spokesman Robert Sinclair Jr. said.

“It makes money for the city for damn sure, but maybe it’s a good idea because too many accidents happen,” said Dr. Arthur Klafter of Staten Island.

“If I were sure in my own mind that everything was done correctly I don’t think I’d have a problem with it because I think speeding is a tremendous problem,” added Les Feuerstein of Staten Island.

“It’s a good thing, but then it’s a bad thing because we’re already paying so much as taxpaying citizens, tolls raising,” Charles Walker added. “Safety is always important but people’s pockets are important as well.”

The speed camera bill could reach the floor of the Legislature as early as January.

AAA also worries that other infractions will be ignored if cops are taken off speed patrol, like drunk drivers and those following too closely.

Do you think this is a good idea? Please offer your thoughts in the comments section below.

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  1. James C. Walker says:

    Speed and red light cameras ONLY work when the engineering is deliberately done badly to increase revenue at the expense of less safety. The are ticket cash registers, NOT ticket cameras. See the science on our website. James C. Walker, National Motorists Association, http://www.motorists.org, Ann Arbor, MI

  2. dd says:

    Speed Cameras will = More traffic, people don’t want to get ticketed.. Duh…

    If you slow down, you get a ticket.
    If you want to speed up to get into another lane, you get a ticket.
    If you want to exit sometimes you need to speed up and slow down, you get a ticket.

    Tell you Bunch of idiots just want to make money off the citizens of NY.

    They are doing the same thing with the Tolls and the Subways, even ticketing you for stupid stuff. They want to find any excuse to get money.

    Bad enough the rent and car gas is high in this city.

  3. CJ says:

    Most accidents are caused by distracted, texting and putting on make up drivers.
    There is a small percentage accidents that are fatal when look at as a whole.
    Placing speeding cameras will not eliminate the problem, Mr. Bought and Sold Politician.
    Suggestion: He who makes the rule or law should be subjected abide buy the same rules and not be exempt by using City Official Cars.

  4. CJ says:

    I firmly believe that the politicians should be subjected to the same laws they create.
    Stop driving around in “official” cars when off duty and let’s see if he or she obey the rules proposed.

  5. Stephen Donaldson says:

    Pretty much a complete money grab. Heck over in AU they are citing for 1 km/h tickets: http://www.banthecams.org/Speed-Camera-News/how-the-scam-really-works-long-term-scamera-citing-for-as-low-as-1-kmh-that-is-under-1-mph-folks.html

    I wonder how much of this push (Chicago is trying to push it too) has more to do with the fact that the RLC scam is FALLING apart in other parts of the US. There people are realizing more and more that most of the “violations” are technical fouls like right turns on red, stop lines or split second mistakes.

    Speed Scameras are NOT about saving lives, since they DON’T pull over dangerous drivers, all it does is send a bill. That is not safety, but bill collecting.

    Further, if the machine makes a mistake (and they frequently do: http://www.stopbigbrothermd.org/2011/09/forest-heights-speed-camera-defendant.html or http://www.stopbigbrothermd.org/2011/10/pg-countys-new-speed-camera-issues.html), you typically considered guilty even if innocent.

    In fact even going slow to avoid a speed scamera ticket is no long possible. Spain is citing drivers for going too SLOW by their speed scameras. http://www.thenewspaper.com/news/35/3523.asp

    This will be used as a tax. not safety.

    Most “speeding” by the ways has more to due with underset speed limits than safety issues. When speed limits are set to the 85% speeds, most “speeding” disappears.

    Fight the SCAM!

    Ban the CAMS!

    http://www.motorits.org
    http://www.banthecams.org
    http://www.camerafraud.com
    http://www.bhspi.org

  6. Slim Pickens says:

    Yet another page taken from Orwell.

    1. CJ says:

      I firmly believe that the politicians should be subjected to the same laws they create.
      Stop driving around in official cars when off duty and let’s see if he or she obey the rules proposed.

  7. sdfhsajdfjasdjkf2343284902374 says:

    .
    The law should require a Warning sign that you are approaching a red light or speed camera BEFORE you get to it, allowing you time to slow down or stop.
    I saw online that you can order special clear coversthat block the camera flash when it tries to take a picture of your plate if you go thru a red lite camera or one of these speed cameras the cover makes the plate hard to read.
    if they do this stuff, most people will be buying these clear plate covers

    1. No way around it says:

      They are illegal in New york.The ticket for that is way more expensive then a speeding ticket.I should know got pulled over for it.

    2. Mark says:

      “a Warning sign that you are approaching a red light or speed camera BEFORE you get to it”

      Its called a speed limit sign…

  8. dfsjkfdsjkfdshjfdj says:

    .
    The law should require a Warning sign that you are approaching a red light or speed camera BEFORE you get to it, allowing you time to slow down or stop.
    I saw online that you can order special clear coversthat block the camera flash when it tries to take a picture of your plate if you go thru a red lite camera or one of these speed cameras the cover makes the plate hard to read.
    if they do this stuff, most people will be buying these clear plate covers

  9. asdkfajsdhfadhf says:

    This is nothing mre that big brother in greedy cities llooking to make extra money.
    The ticket should be give to the driver by a policeman, not some stupid camera that records the plates. What if someone loans their car to another person and that person is the one responsible for speeding?

    IF they pass this anyone gettign a ticket should file a class action lawsuit against the town issuing the ticket.
    Tickets for speeding should be issued ONLY by a policeman who witnesses the act and catches the person on radar.

  10. Klato says:

    It is the way the Arabs do it. Then they bet their car is fast enough to go through the camera before it can take a picture. Some actually do. Some crash.
    I don’t think it will take long before that becomes a local sport.

  11. KPMc says:

    “I’d rather, you know, have a camera, technology monitoring traffic infractions and having a police officer out looking for the drug dealer, the pedophile,” Titone said.

    Besides the embarrassment this sentence is can someone tell Mr. Titone that uniformed police officers don’t do those things. Those are activities reserved for detectives and plain clothes officers working with a specific anti-crime unit.

    But why should we expect an Assemblymen calling for new laws to know that?

  12. Henry says:

    I think this country is falling apart when I read a story like this. The concept of Speed cameras are contrary to the principles on which this country was built. Speed cameras and red light cameras are the very foundation for a government with it’s ‘eye’ on you. Governments don’t take power away from themselves. This is just another way to make the government more and more powerful. When the government has no more streets left to put cameras on, they will look to put them in peoples homes. Hey, “if you’re not doing anything wrong, you have nothing to fear”, right ? America? Maybe we need a new name.

  13. scorp says:

    You break the F#@king law you pay, stop f-ing complaining, what I’m suppose to feel sorry for you because you got a ticket for breaking the law and endangering the lives of others F-YOU! What the F@#k are we suppose to do applaud you for speeding. Selfish A-holes.

    1. Danny says:

      A bit cranky today? Maybe there should be a law to stop senseless cursing? You would be public enemy #1.

      1. badman says:

        scorp is right, even if he’s offended your virgin ears.

        funny how one commenter wants “warning signs”

        here’s a sign for you: obey the law, or get a ticket. simple enough?

  14. ttrue nyc says:

    i am getting a horse. Bloomfcuk could take a pic of my horses @ss every time i go over the speed limit.

    1. Joe Schmo says:

      LOL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    2. midi-man says:

      LOLROF. Bloomfcuk should have a camera installed up his wazoo. so he can monitoir it.

  15. Tootsie says:

    The red light cameras are dangerous. I got hit from behind stopping for one. That cost me 2 grand. I hate NYC it is an ANAL city lead by someone who should have been out of here a long time ago.

    1. KPMc says:

      No… you got hit because someone behind you was traveling at an unsafe speed and distance to properly stop at a red light.

      Next!

      1. Danny says:

        KPMc, You were not there. You do not know the road conditions. You do not know if it was sunny, cloudy or night. You probably do not even drive. Stop acting like you are some sort of judge, jury and executioner. NEXT!

        1. KPMc says:

          the CAMERA did NOT cause the accident.

    2. asdfjdsfahjhjf3333 says:

      tootsie – if someone hits you from behind its THEIR fault. why did it cost you two grand? the person who hit you is responsible and THEIR insurance has to pay. I would have gotten a good lawyer and sued them not only for the two grand but for injuries as well and collected $$$$$$$$$$$.
      The a$$hole should have not been following to closely.
      You have a right to sue when its not your fault – teach them a lesson, go to the doctor, get checked for whiplash, or whatever, and make the a$$hole pay up big $$$$$$,

  16. I HATE ezPass Toll Hikes $12, its a shame says:

    ASK this fcaking ITALIAN HOMO Assemblyman Titone, HOW MUCH IS HE GETTING IN KICKBACK FROM THE SPEEDY CAMERA COMPANY. @$$houle
    i don know what the fuack this state is doing,
    what is next ya Assemblyman Titone, 50 cent or dollar toll on bklyn, willi, Manhattan bridges….
    Big companies are laying off people left and right, and this jrek ov want to put cameras on the street, why cant we install cameras on your house, and watch who you dealing with this siht.

  17. Jay says:

    This whole “savings lives” argument is such B.S.!!! It’s all about finding new revenue sources. These politicians must think we are total idiots!!

    Here’s the problem – who pays the ticket when multiple people in the family drive the same car, or if a friend borrows the car??

    1. KPMc says:

      Owners should be responsible for their cars. That includes when they lend it out.

      Next!

  18. gerry says:

    Hey, Phoenix Arizona went with this and then they got it repealed. Why not raise speed limits to the levels the majority of people drive at. Most people who drive the limit create hazards for others.

    1. tony says:

      No, its speeders and tailgaters that create hazards for others

    2. scorp says:

      Because if they raised it then idiots like you would then would try to drive faster than everyone else, creating a vicious cycle of stupidity all over again.

  19. zappy says:

    this BS i had one of those red light sent to my mother that is 78 yr old from 400 miles away? they drop it !

  20. vinny says:

    Why dont they put cameras in all the toilet bowles in the united states and then let the lawmakers look them over every day.

  21. alaine says:

    ….and Y’know???………its late and I’m tired.

  22. ellswood says:

    I think this is a good idea. It seems to work in European countries. If people drove a little bit more responsible then there would be no need for such a device. After getting a few $150 tickets, you’ll slow down.

  23. alaine says:

    ‘scuse me………I meant to say “language.” Gulp!

  24. alaine says:

    Gee. y’ know, Mr. Titone, if uh, y’know, you could only learn, y’know, to talk without, y’know, saying “Y’KNOW.!!!! Could we chuck this meaningless expression out of the English languge!!!!! The only purpose it serves is to fill in the time when you can’t think of what it is you’re trying to say! People are just so full of themselves that they think they don’t have to use good English. Y’kjnow???

  25. "gunner" says:

    damm! i’m very glad i left new york city forever 50 years ago. it much better up here in the boondocks. the air is cleaner and the politicians are reasonably honest, except for a couple of carpetbaggers from new york.

    1. KPMc says:

      But apparently you can’t find a website that caters to the news of YOUR area. Here you are trolling on a news site for NYC. Miss us much?

  26. colleen says:

    city and states want more money so who they come too? and now taxpayers has to pay more because the SS check has to be increased. Its legal robbery, and what if a car looks like yours but its not, some people only have their license plate at the back of their car.

  27. William Weiss Esq. says:

    I recomend civil disobedience

  28. colleen says:

    help Ive been robbed, stick up highway robbery, know that song?

  29. bb says:

    Can you $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

  30. Steve says:

    I’m getting fed up with this State and country!

  31. J says:

    This FCKING Country and State are falling apart. America is totally FCKED UP! EXCUSES AND MORE EXCUSES to control the population.

  32. AZE says:

    good red light camera detector – http://www.gpsangel.com – only $49

    1. KPMc says:

      Why not just STOP at the red light?

  33. Camrea Upper U.S. says:

    Can we also have a camrea on all the back room deals that Bloomberg made illegally behind closd doors, or through proxy holding corperations, like the new yankee stadium, citi field, the 2nd av subway line, Giant stadium, and a multitude of onknown multi billion dollar projects that this creep had his hands in? After all, why would he want to rig the elections to be here a third time?

    1. KPMc says:

      What did the Mayor of NYC have to do with a privately financed stadium in New Jersey?

      Perhaps you mean the new home of the New Jersey Nets being built in Brooklyn?

      As for rigging elections that is NOT what happened. Mr. Bloomberg won the election because more people voted for him then any other candidates. The people spoke. Now as to how he got on that ballot considering there were Mayoral term limits when he took office is another matter entirely. Unseemly, in bad taste, full of hubris… maybe. But it was neither rigged or illegal.

  34. c sam says:

    A camera for speeding, camera for red lights (just cross the line not the intersection) cameras on the streets, it must be 1984!

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