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NYC Cashier Who Beat Customers Claims Self Defense

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A cashier at a McDonald’s on West Fourth Street in Manhattan was captured on video savagely beating two female customers with a metal rod on Oct. 13, 2011. (Photo: CBS 2)

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) — A McDonald’s cashier jailed for beating two irate customers with a metal rod (click here for video) says he was only trying to defend himself.

Rayon McIntosh was arrested Oct. 13 after a wild fight inside a McDonald’s in the Greenwich Village neighborhood in Manhattan.

Video recorded by a customer showed two furious women vaulting a counter to attack McIntosh after some sort of dispute.

McIntosh grabbed a metal bar and fought back with savage force, continuing to deliver crushing blows even after the women were incapacitated on the floor.

McIntosh tells the New York Daily News in a jailhouse interview published Saturday that he acted to protect himself.

He says the women came in angry, and he was just trying to keep things calm when they “attacked for no reason.”

One of the women has a fractured skull.

McIntosh, 31, was arrested and charged with two counts of felony assault and criminal possession of a weapon while the two women were charged with menacing, disorderly conduct and trespassing.

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  • Joe Noone

    If I’m on the jury he walks.

    • sane_voter

      Charging this poor victim is prosecutorial misconduct.

      • sane_voter

        The mere fact that he might go to trial will scare away others in defending themselves, and this weakens the society.

  • phillysmart

    I don’t understand why they charged him with anything….we have really become so lame as a society that we don’t know right from wrong

    • edhalifday

      Yes

  • GIVEMEFREEDOM

    He is not a law enforcement officer. He is not trained in excessive use of force. He is rendering himself safe and has no idea when the threat is over.
    He is innocent until proven guilty and from the video, he looks innocent as hell.

    • Mike Moffat

      They attacked, he backed off. One came over the counter at him, and the other moved to cut off his escape as they continued to come after him. He successfully defended himself. End of story.

  • phillysmart

    This man should not be charged with anything…he was attacked the video clearly shows it …i certainly would have felt my life was in danger…these woman are animals and they tried to bully the wrong guy

    • Surfin Bird

      true to a point phillysmart. He should of just pushed them away

      • phillysmart

        thats easy to say now ..but when you are scared to death and the adrenelin is going its not that easy

      • anti-liberal

        He tried that you idiot and retreated, unless you watched a different video than me, they aggressively came after him at which point he defended himself.

    • Kevin Pearson

      You’re right, but this is NY. Remember Micheal Nifong? The charges
      are politically motivated. You cannot jeopardize the black vote, you cannot jeopardize the drug vote, you cannot jeopardize the BLGT vote, you cannot jeopardize the obese vote.

  • Ed Fdnyretiree

    Too bad he didn’t kill them. Remember Bernard Goetz? That is the only thing these animals comprehend.

    And they certainly won’t come back for more!

    Self defense it is.

  • GreatGranny Smith

    I hope there is a defense fund for him. How dare anyone charge him with any crime? It’s the thugs who become the victims in the media. I pray not in the courts. Those two have been charged, have they not?

  • jason taylor

    He definitely has some self defense claim. The question, IMO, is whether a jury would find that it’s imperfect self defense since the force looks like it may have been a bit excessive. Yes, there were two of them, but the cashier wasn’t alone and there were other employees around to help him get the women under control.

    Also, I bet that his response was conditioned by his time in prison. I mean, if two inmates came after him in prison what we saw in the video would be exactly what he’d have to do to survive. I wonder if the jury will be allowed to take his particular past experience into account in deciding whether the use of force in self defense was reasonable.

    • Jimbo Limbo

      NONE of those other employees DID ANYTHING, though. Just because people COULD HAVE helped, that doesn’t mean a thing. THEY DIDN’T. End of story. This was their chance to help get those women under control. It happened, and they let it go by in fractions of a second.

      Those other employees were just watching, like 80%+ of all people always do. His fellow employees are the same people who would walk by a man on the sidewalk who is bleeding to death, they clearly see what is happening, they think that it’s a terrible situation, and they quickly walk on by.

  • Yeah Fing-Whey

    If more of these thugs are beaten senseless we’ll have fewer thugs behaving badly for no good reason.

    • jason taylor

      OTOH, who’s the thug here? Yah, the women were wrong to come after him, but this guy served ten years in prison for shooting and killing someone.

      • phillysmart

        they picked the wrong guy…they iniated it he was trying to do his job…his past record has nothing to do with this…..I would give them more than they asked for if they came after me like that…he should walk whats he suppose to let them beat him or somehow use restraint…gve me a break

      • UberD

        He served his time and was released. He was working, keeping his nose clean, “doing the right thing.” He did not go looking for this trouble; it came to HIM. He shouldn’t be punished twice for his original crime, and since when did being convicted of a crime and serving your time become justification for denying someone the right to defend themselves when attacked??

      • monstersdoexist

        Oh, and if YOU ever get in trouble with the law, I suppose YOU will not mind when they drag up all those speeding tickets YOU got in your life or anything else YOU served your time for?

      • Kevin Pearson

        Cheers to McDonalds for hiring people that have been convicted criminals, otherwise they would just resort to a life of crime out of necessity.

        What was the line in “The Green Mile” ? “He’s paid his debt. He’s square with the house/” If I were in a position to hire, I would likely recruit former convicts that have paid their debt, in instances when bonding or other factors are not an issue. The problem is that too many in our society – especially those that claim to be “Christians” – have forgotten what Jesus (who was a convict himself) said about forgiveness.

        And for those of you that would accuse me of being a bleeding heart liberal there is a name that you should remember: Frank Abagnale, Jr.

  • DOUBLE_CHINNED_PUPPETEER

    McIntosh should not be charged. He is clearly innocent.

  • Meme Meyagi

    what is done about 7 million mooslime terrorists living in usa?

  • KC

    I love it and hope he gets off. Two fat, loud Latifas out of control, more power to him! Keep swinging, they could have gone to Burger King and had it “their way!”

  • Vince Santos

    The attack was brutal and the question is really about whether or not he needed to continue to beat them even when they were on the ground. You can’t see what’s going on that low but it does look like he stopped them early on and didn’t need to continue to beat them like that.

    But I will say he was in the right for defending himself to start but it looks like he took it a little far.

    • Windygirl

      You don’t know what went on behind the counter. It’s possible they were trying to get up and as one person said on another page, when you disable an opponent in a situation like this, you make sure they stay down. As another person said, others could have helped him – well, they didn’t. He couldn’t be sure they would. According to most of the people who have been posting on this and the other site, no one would find him guilty. McDonalds should hire him back for doing his job. They weren’t only going for money, although you never know what their intent was, as other reports have said he had questioned a $50 they were trying to give him and that is why he was first slapped, but they *were* going for him and he was defending himself. He should *not* have been expected to sit back and take a beating by two aggressors. That is unconscionable.

  • XNYbob IN Fla

    The counter jumping woman looks like a man. I would have been scared. And two of them? His fellow employees didnt seem to jump in to help him out. 2 vs 1. Maybe he used excessive force, its so easy to armchair quarterback the video which is what prosecutors will do. Does McDons train their employees how to deal with customers on the attack?

    • Jimbo Limbo

      I cannot speak to what they currently train, but to the best of my memory, they used to train (at least up through the 1990′s) employees to call the cops in a situation like this. That was it. They did not train to physically defend oneself or another employee. This man should have run from the women, somehow avoided physical confrontation by all means necessary, by their policies. SUCH policies fall short of reality. They trained to cooperate completely with any robber, follow all commands, and not to lay a hand on anyone, no matter what. I think the policy was more aimed at avoiding lawsuits than employee protection. The corporation is concerned with its own well being, which is the bottom line- $$$$$. Worker bees will come and go, it is the financial welfare of the hive that is important to the corporation.

      • monstersdoexist

        It’s LIBERAL nutless pukes like you that are ruining this country. Your “retreat like a girl and call the cops” attitude shows a real weakness in you, jimbo. Now, go back to watching Jersey Shore and reading your Cosmopolitan magazine.

        • Jimbo Limbo

          You apparently missed what I said. I said that MCDONALDS TRAINS THEIR PEOPLE IN THIS MANNER. Learn to read, buddy. Learn to read.

  • Judy

    Next time all irate customers will think TWICE before jumping the counter. Sorry it looked so brutal. Here’s a man trying to keep his nose clean after serving time and this stupid woman jumps the counter to attack him…if he was a wimp he would be the one hurting they would have tear him to pieces. Good thing he could defend himself. She got her just reward and I know she will think TWICE.

  • stev

    If the gender has been reversed, 2 men jump over the counter and attack a female cashier, the cashier wouldn’t be charged even if she killed them…

  • mark

    He was right in every way. He made a past mistake and is working to better him self today. These women need to be locked for up their actions and one of their mothers are defending them are you kidding me.

  • Barry

    This did happen on the cashier’s side of the counter, did it not?
    SELF DEFENSE!

  • Edward Borrero

    Bitches, they deserved what they got. Let him go, cut him free please.

  • Joey

    BOON-SHE in the make. not quite there yet but, 2-3 big macs away. definitely

  • Malkam Dior

    This is why I no longer feel safe where there are video cameras..Simply because they are useless, even when the actual event is recorded, it does no justice at all.

  • gotacomment

    Those two female hyenas are lucky to be alive. He did nothing wrong. McDonald’s is a pack of hypocritical corporate little baby kittens and all the sensationalistic headline writers and reporters who are trying to make this out to be his doing should find themselves looking for their next scoop in a horse barn.

  • Lawrence

    What do you mean he ‘claims’ self-defense? The video proves he acted in self-defense.

    My goodness, the bias in the media nowadays is astounding. No one wonder people are always skeptical of reporting being brought out to the masses. It’s completely twisted.

    • Sydelle Houston

      That’s right. The first airing of the incident was in its entirety. Then the media chopped it up so that all people saw the next day was him using the metal rod. So many people I spoke to had only seen the chopped up version and had no idea that he was attacked first. Their opinions changed immediately after seeing the whole video on YouTube. Yes, most definitely self defense!

      • Sydelle is right

        a lot like Rodney King, if you watched the video in it’s entirety instead of the little bit the media kept playing over and over you would have seen what lead up to “THE INCIDENT”

  • Richie

    These woman were lucky he did’nt kill them. Maybe these women will think twice next time. As far as the cashier goes, charges should be dropped and he they should give him his job back with retroactive pay. I would have done the same thing if I was in his shoes. Guy is not guilty period. People need to pay the price when they do stupid things like these two did. End of story.

    • Andy VanMiddlesworth

      Women like these two do not think and that’s the whole problem here all away around.Wait for the major lawsuit these two bring against McDonald’s for their own stupidity.

    • Kevin Pearson

      No. promote him to head of security or something like that.

  • Nancy

    Call me crazy, I’m not a violent person and have never had the tendency to be violent. If I’m at my work place and someone/two comes in and a physical altercation begins and THEY, JUMP THE COUNTER AND ASSAULT ME…I WILL BY ALL MEANS DEFEND MYSELF. IF HE WERE ON THE RECEIVING END OF THIS AND WAS KILLED OR IN THE HOSPITAL….McDonalds would tell his parents”We are very sorry for your loss”. They would then hire the “next potential victim”
    He had every right to defend himself !

  • Stupid political correctness

    Its obvious he’s in the right. It was clearly self defense. Our society becoming so politically correct that it’s actually handcuffing us and impeding our logic. Call a spade for what it is, a spade.

    • NYC IS A CESSPOOL

      ABSOLUTELY CORRECT……….AMERICA ESPECIALLY NY HAS BECOME A SHELL OF WHAT IT FORMERLY WAS

    • lawrence

      This man had to defend himself against those people who jumped the counter. I would have done the same to any of them. This man should be let go.

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