Thousands March To Protest Ban On Using Public Schools For Religious Services

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Religious leaders and elected officials joined a massive march to protest the ban on religious gatherings in public schools.

An estimated 17,000 worshipers marched across the Brooklyn Bridge to City Hall Sunday to protest the Appeals Court decision to ban religious services from public schools to avoid the appearance of government endorsement of particular faiths.

“Freedom to worship, that’s what we want,” they chanted.

On December 5, the City announced congregations would have to stop using public schools for services as of February 12.

“We are here to tell Mayor Bloomberg, I mean we are going to have 60 churches homeless and that’s not Christ-like,” said Bronx Pastor Sal Sabino of the Heavenly Region Christian Center.

“The church has been notoriously persecuted since its inception so I’m not surprised but we’re not going to stay quiet we’re going to speak out and say this is what the foundation of America is built upon,” said Roseann Kytka of Ascencion Presbyterian Church, which meets at P.S. 101 in Forest Hills.

Bills are pending in the State Legislature and City Council that would reverse the ban.

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  1. Joel says:

    Go pray in the park. Preach to the squirrels.

  2. Adeyinka O mcadewunmi says:

    Nations that say no to GOD will perish.The former ussr,is a good example.Religion and the knowledge of the Almighty that was featured in the bible are two different things

    1. p8nt says:

      Care to explain then how China practically owns the entire world??

      1. AuntTootzToldMe says:

        Thank you!!! I guess Russia wasn’t nasty enough!!!

      2. Rich S. says:

        Christianity is endorsed by China through their official churches. China produces more Bibles than any nation on earth. I worshiped in a church in Shanghai that was built with government funds.

  3. p8nt says:

    Religion belongs at home, place of worship, or a religious school. It does not belong in the public school!! However, religion of all types should be taught in public schools. People need to be educated about what religion is, so that they won’t be as ignorant as most of the present population.

  4. naana says:

    so true!

  5. pugphan says:

    Once again atheist roaches come out from their rocks to bash things they can
    never understand. You peeps are a miniscule of the pop. All things start somewhere, so what if there were civilizations, how ever big they were anywhere else on the planet. What does that have to do with what the almighty chose to do in Palestine? Likewise with the tale of Gilgamesh, the truth is one, it has many windows and many peeps see it differently, like a book, everyone has diff POV. Christianity has many diff denominations, but we all agree on its core, and it doesn’t matter what you wretched roaches think. Hooray to those brave souls out there marching for righteousness sake. God bless and God speed…smokersodysseycom

    1. AuntTootzToldMe says:

      pugphan

      Once again atheist roaches come out from their rocks to bash things they can
      never understand.

      There are no atheist roaches. There ARE christians who ACT like roaches, however they are not Christians! Beware of the reichwing American christian Taliban!!!

  6. Mayor Koch's dental bridge says:

    Yes these jerks marching & chanting on 6th avenue & 23rd street almost knocked
    down an old blind couple on the sidewalk ,too busy chanting & praying,only one
    Police car was there from the 13th precinct ,imagine only one police car
    for OWS or a labor union demonstration.? Caught by surprise I guess.

  7. Mr. Bean says:

    All religion is a facile superstition ,no one knows anything about creation &
    God”
    3500 years ago India had civilizations that were not Christian cities of
    200 thousand people, The Bible does not mention Chinese,Africans or other
    people except in the most superficial way it has been Europeanized.
    Montaigne the philosopher said “Oh senseless man.who cannot possibly
    make a worm & yet makes Gods by dozens”

    1. Rachel (South Carolina) says:

      The Astronomical Evidence that Jesus is the Messiah – the Savior of the World
      By Dr. Mark Creech
      Christian Action League
      It seems that no matter how much evidence there is for Jesus’ claims to be the Son of God, the Messiah of the world, some people will persist in their unbelief and doubt his credentials.
      By some counts there is between 300 to 400 messianic prophecies in the Old Testament. Some, however, believe that number is too high and count the major prophecies as less than 100. Apologists Josh McDowell has made a study of the major prophecies and numbers them conservatively at 61. He argues these 61 prophecies are identifications that any claim to being the Messiah must possess.
      In his book Science Speaks, Peter Stoner took only eight of these prophecies, which are most basic and calculated the odds of all of them being fulfilled. Here is a list of those prophecies:
      1. Messiah would be born in Bethlehem (Mc. 5:2).
      2. Messiah would be proceeded by a messenger (Mal. 3:1).
      3. Messiah would come to Jerusalem riding on a colt (Zch. 9:9).
      4. Messiah would be betrayed by a friend (Zch. 13:6).
      5. Messiah would be betrayed by thirty pieces of silver (Zch. 11:2).
      6. Messiah’s betrayer would try to return the thirty pieces of silver, but it would be refused. The betrayer would then throw them on the floor of the temple (Zch. 11:13).
      7. Messiah would not speak in his own defense (Is. 53:7)
      8. Messiah’s hands and feet would be pierced (Ps. 22:16)
      Stoner used to calculate the odds were arrived at by himself and over 600 of his students over the course of about ten years. Whenever Stoner found reason for the odds to be revised, he made them even more conservative. Stoner and his students found in considering just these eight prophecies the odds that they would be fulfilled by any one man who lived between the writing of the prophecies and today is 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. That’s 1 to the 10017 power. The odds are astronomical.
      Stoner then calculated the odds of forty-eight of the prophecies concerning Jesus and discovered that the odds were 1 in 10157 power.
      As incredibly large as that number is, it must be remembered that conservatively speaking, as Josh McDowell argues, there are at least 61 major messianic prophecies. If the odds of 48 prophecies being fulfilled are statistically zero, how much greater are the odds of 61 prophecies.
      The improbability is overwhelmingly mind-boggling.
      Of course, some will still argue that these prophecies could be fulfilled intentionally. Well, perhaps entering into Jerusalem on a donkey could have been intentional. Nevertheless, how does one contrive their own place and time of birth, descendants, the actions of others (such as Christ’s betrayer), or his means of death?
      The preponderance of the evidence that Jesus is the prophesied Savior of the world is demonstratively undeniable. Many men have claimed to be the Messiah through the centuries, but only one man has presented us with the proper ID. That man is Jesus Christ.
      Will you believe in Him? Will you receive Him as your Savior?

      This is why we need Christianity (not religion) back in our country.

      1. Nick says:

        400 prophecies and you list 8 that supposedly “came true.” THE EVIDENCE IS IRREFUTABLE!

        1. Rachel (South Carolina) says:

          Of course, some will still argue that these prophecies could be fulfilled intentionally. Well, perhaps entering into Jerusalem on a donkey could have been intentional. Nevertheless, how does one contrive their own place and time of birth, descendants, the actions of others (such as Christ’s betrayer), or his means of death?

      2. naana says:

        can you please give me just one single prophecy where Jesus is mentioned by name? The term Messiah, translated as Christ, is not a name but a title. Is there a single prophecy where it says that the name of the Messiah will be Jesus, and that his mother’s name will be Mary, that his supposed father will be Joseph the Carpenter; that he will be born in the reign of Herod the King, etc? No! There are no such details! Then how can you conclude that those ‘Thousand’ prophecies refer to Jesus, peace be upon him?”

        1. Rachel (South Carolina) says:

          Daniel 9:24-27. The prophecy of the seventy weeks. Study it, research it for yourself. Be blessed.

      3. royallen says:

        brainwashed…………………….

  8. Noper says:

    People they are only using the schools for religious services when school is not in session such as on the weekends. They are renting. Please people learn to read.

  9. Vernon Hell says:

    What offensive nonsense! An individual is free to pray wherever and whenever he wants and does not need a church, synagogue, temple or mosque to do so. He can even pray in the bathroom while wiping his behind.

    It takes a colossal fool to think that God is up there eagerly waiting to be spammed with robotic recitals of canned prayers. Those wishing their prayers to be heard should talk directly to God with original, sincere heartfelt requests. There is no need for these corrupt liar churches with their sinister ministers.

  10. Try reading. says:

    The lack of reading comprehension here astounds me. No one is asking for religion to be taught during the school day. The groups are asking to be allowed to rent space after hours and on weekends, just like the hundreds of other organizations who “are” allowed, like scout troops, substance abuse groups, support groups, etc. Free and unfettered access to public spaces for all religions is actually what freedom of religion is about. No one will be forcing any child, or adult, for that matter, to attend anything. Renting space to a group does not automatically signify endorsement, or establishment of any kind of official religion. Refusing a group based upon religion is actually quite unconstitutional and discriminatory.

    1. royallen says:

      There is plenty of rental space available,try the vfw,elks,lions, or a slew of private organizations,who rent there halls out on a regular basis,and leave the government owned buildings out of it !

      1. Try reading. says:

        I’m a tax payer. The government has no money but that which originally belonged to taxpayers, thus, government building= my building. Let em stay.

  11. The Realist says:

    Requiring public schools to be used for religion means establishing an OFFICIAL RELIGION of all NYC public schools, which means establishing an OFFICIAL RELIGION for the City itself. Do we really want that?

  12. david11238 says:

    Why should government insure a meeting place for any religious institution? Government has the obligation to protect churches and members from harm, but certainly no obligation what so ever to insure they have a social lofe. That’s up to the members of the church. Actually, the School Board & NYC doesn’thave a single obligation to insure a meeting place for any body or organization, much less a church/synagogue or the like.

  13. Mike says:

    Schools belong to the tax payers…But government owns them like everthing else…People are suppose to dictate to the government, but the government really dictates to the people…

    1. Build a church says:

      True thats why schools should be used for just schooling.you have heat cost electric cost cleanup who pays that.

      1. Xander says:

        Actually the churches pay quite a bit of money to rent space, and pay for many improvements in the schools. Where exactly do you think they will find vacant land in NYC to build a church?

        1. AuntTootzToldMe says:

          They don’t have to build. Certainly there are other vacant buildings in the whole of NYC they can convert and use. More American christian Taliban whining.

        2. Land all over NYC says:

          OMG you have to be kidding me there is vacant land in every borough.It is not like it is a booming economy.And they do not spend alot to rent the space it does not even cost the days pay for maintence worker to open and cose the school.Bottom line school should be for school not some fly by night churhes there are plenty of places to worship.

  14. Rachel (South Carolina) says:

    The Astronomical Evidence that Jesus is the Messiah – the Savior of the World
    By Dr. Mark Creech
    Christian Action League
    It seems that no matter how much evidence there is for Jesus’ claims to be the Son of God, the Messiah of the world, some people will persist in their unbelief and doubt his credentials.
    By some counts there is between 300 to 400 messianic prophecies in the Old Testament. Some, however, believe that number is too high and count the major prophecies as less than 100. Apologists Josh McDowell has made a study of the major prophecies and numbers them conservatively at 61. He argues these 61 prophecies are identifications that any claim to being the Messiah must possess.
    In his book Science Speaks, Peter Stoner took only eight of these prophecies, which are most basic and calculated the odds of all of them being fulfilled. Here is a list of those prophecies:
    1. Messiah would be born in Bethlehem (Mc. 5:2).
    2. Messiah would be proceeded by a messenger (Mal. 3:1).
    3. Messiah would come to Jerusalem riding on a colt (Zch. 9:9).
    4. Messiah would be betrayed by a friend (Zch. 13:6).
    5. Messiah would be betrayed by thirty pieces of silver (Zch. 11:2).
    6. Messiah’s betrayer would try to return the thirty pieces of silver, but it would be refused. The betrayer would then throw them on the floor of the temple (Zch. 11:13).
    7. Messiah would not speak in his own defense (Is. 53:7)
    8. Messiah’s hands and feet would be pierced (Ps. 22:16)
    Stoner used to calculate the odds were arrived at by himself and over 600 of his students over the course of about ten years. Whenever Stoner found reason for the odds to be revised, he made them even more conservative. Stoner and his students found in considering just these eight prophecies the odds that they would be fulfilled by any one man who lived between the writing of the prophecies and today is 1 in 100,000,000,000,000,000. That’s 1 to the 10017 power. The odds are astronomical.
    Stoner then calculated the odds of forty-eight of the prophecies concerning Jesus and discovered that the odds were 1 in 10157 power.
    As incredibly large as that number is, it must be remembered that conservatively speaking, as Josh McDowell argues, there are at least 61 major messianic prophecies. If the odds of 48 prophecies being fulfilled are statistically zero, how much greater are the odds of 61 prophecies.
    The improbability is overwhelmingly mind-boggling.
    Of course, some will still argue that these prophecies could be fulfilled intentionally. Well, perhaps entering into Jerusalem on a donkey could have been intentional. Nevertheless, how does one contrive their own place and time of birth, descendants, the actions of others (such as Christ’s betrayer), or his means of death?
    The preponderance of the evidence that Jesus is the prophesied Savior of the world is demonstratively undeniable. Many men have claimed to be the Messiah through the centuries, but only one man has presented us with the proper ID. That man is Jesus Christ.
    Will you believe in Him? Will you receive Him as your Savior?

    This is why we need Christianity (not religion) back in our country.

    1. RJ O'Guillory says:

      Search the Darkness

      Standing silent, on the edge of life,
      alone among the crowd.
      As laughter lays against my soul,
      and the terror screams out loud.

      Ride the banshee of loss and despair,
      briskly into the cold, dark rain.
      Let loose the reins of the beast of Hell,
      ride firmly into the pain.

      Search the heavens quick and fast,
      uncover the depths of Hell.
      Prepare to ride, accept the costs,
      for it’s yourself you will have to tell.

      Stories lost, old tales left behind,
      from a record you’re afraid to start.
      In a library mixed with pain and fear,
      in a volume called your heart.

      Your soul screams out, an endless cry,
      from the quiet darkness it calls.
      “Come to me, end this journey,
      for in life you have seen it all.”

      But in our journey of life on earth,
      false prophets trade in soiled goods.
      The pain and horrors of the journey we take,
      need merely to be understood.

      RJ O’Guillory

      *….serves as the introduction to my memoir…Webster Groves-The Life of an Insane Family

    2. Charles Chapman says:

      For Rachel
      Isn’t 1 to the 10157 power still 1? Also where are you getting these numbers from? I know you get them from biblical verses but it seems to be pulled from the thin air. Also how does this show that we need Christianity back in our country? You pretty much argued that Jesus Christ is the savior and nothing about the country needing one or what would happen. Also this math can be applied to anyone since you’re arguing there won’t be a second messiah. he life of any one person is very complicated and to get a second person to do the same thing is astronomical.

      1. Rachel (South Carolina) says:

        Actually, there are over 300 prophecies that Jesus fulfilled from the Old Testament. The first one is Genesis 3:15. Have you looked in the Bible and researched this for yourself? Please do. I think you will find it is all true. After all what else is there in this life. There is no hope for our country, our nation, our world. Look at the mess we are in. All these things that are happening are predicted in Matthew chapter 24. I for one will trust Jesus. He is the only way. John chapter 14.

  15. win says:

    Young children will not be attending public school on Sunday. I think they know the difference, Milan. We are not asking that religion be taught in the public schools, just for the right to equal access for meeting purposes on Sundays.

  16. RJ O'Guillory says:

    …goodbye America,….
    ———————————————

    The U.S. of Hollow

    Junior demons litter the culture,
    sucking up all that’s left.
    The Elder knew how to pick em’
    The Boy claimed no such heft.
    Picked apart and long picked over,
    our bird of Giving Thanks.
    America, finally laid to rest,
    by her own traitorous Yanks.
    Liberty & Freedom,
    need no such plan to follow,
    bleeding slowly across our land,
    The United States of Hollow.

    RJ O’Guillory /Author/ Webster Groves-The Life of an Insane Family

  17. milan says:

    religion in your house not in our public school system
    religion is private view of life and can NOT be forced to others …specially our young children
    it should be taught in schools history classes every kind of religion so the children will have to think on their own what it is all about THE RELIGION

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