White Applicants Blast FDNY After Being Denied Entry To Preparation Class

They Say Being Shut Out By Vulcan Society Felt Like Reverse Discrimination

March 1, 2012 8:41 PM

This amateur footage shows predominantly white FDNY applicants waiting outside for a preparation class on Feb. 29 that they were never admitted to. (Photo: CBS 2)

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NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Applicants are letting loose on the FDNY, saying the department engages in reverse discrimination.

There were hurt feelings and racial tensions as white applicants were left standing outside a prep class on Wednesday night, reports CBS 2’s Lou Young.

“Whoever’s name is not on the list is not getting in, so were just following orders. That’s just the way it is,” the applicants were told.

Joseph Basile was one of those who didn’t get in.

“It wasn’t a good feeling. It felt like it was discrimination,” Basile said.

The class was conducted by the Vulcan Society, a group of African American firefighters in an overwhelmingly white department. Many applicants who were turned away preregistered online on forms that did not ask for their race, which made for testy moment.

“What would Martin Luther King do?” one agitated applicant asked.

Many applicants were referred to the Vulcan Society test by Deputy Chief Paul Mannix, who heads a group called “Merit Matters,” which calls for even-handed entry requirements regardless of race. He said it wasn’t a stunt.

“We feel that for your best opportunity to do well on the test the Vulcan’s test is a good test. They hit the nail on the head last time with those unique types of questions,” Mannix said.

“I was told [it] was of the best prep courses around, yes,” Basile said, adding when asked if his speaking out was to make a point, “no, I just wanted to take the test. It aint right.”

The Vulcan Society didn’t return Young’s calls Thursday. The FDNY said it is looking into the matter. Another prep test was scheduled for Thursday night. Basile said he would be back. He just wants in. He said he doesn’t want anyone else out.

Wednesday night’s class was the third in a series of prep exams given by the Vulcan Society. The previous two were integrated. The one Wednesday was the only one from which people were barred from attending.

Please offer your thoughts in the comments section below …

White Applicants Blast FDNY After Being Denied Entry To Preparation Class

robertmedwards

Maudie, your racist ignorance if showing.

Jas

true that.

mark

just because are racist doesn’t mean you are wrong

Wtf

Exactly! Look at the KKK…they clearly had it right.

SNAKESRULE

and they were democrats.

FRED

No you let maudie talk cause maudie is stupid enough to say stuff like that so when it comes time for the whites to go vote they dang sure won’t cast anything for obama! Maudie tends to forget this is still a majority white country! So you let maudie run her big stupid mouth!

KoreaKid

Lets have a “white’s” only prep test and see how the press treats it then. Would be interesting to advertise one just for fun of course!

George

Those stupid assholes still want something for nothing. Uh, do you think there maybe some answers to the questions on the test given here?
Tom

The building would be picketed then burned down.

Steve

Interesting….didn’t see anything about the ACLU jumping up and down and screaming about unfair this is….oh wait…that’s right…my bad…..wrong color…

Barack Hussein Obama

Won’t here anything from the, ah, Old Testament tribe, either.

Barack Hussein Obama

here = hear

muhammedx

or take a note from the brothers and flash mob beat some craka a$$ to a bloody pulp..then burn 4 or 5 city blocks… maybe beat a Korean store owner or two to death then for safe measure pull a crake trucker out of his ride and crush his skull. Then have the Justice brothers Jesse an Al roll in after the smoke clears and the bodies are scraped up and shake down any crake business left standing to get their cut.

RoccoP

IDRI — YEBAT SEBYA!
toughluck

lol Can’t top this.
SNAKESRULE

Koreans have mandatory conscription…recent (and not so recent) Koreans are quite capable with firearms and don’t suffer fools gladly…look to the LA riots to see how Koreans handle their business.

russ in nc

Safest place to be in LA at Riot Time is either Korea Town or Beverly Hills.

John D. Revelator

BO, go put your hat on sideways and steal some white grandma’s handbag – its the only thing you do well.
jersey dan

What did you expect? Look what’s in the White House! I hope you guys who were locked out and others who are screwed by this Mutant remember this in November!!! Wake up!!!
Beverlee

If the Vulcan Society receives any city, state or federal monies for this program there should be lawsuits.

Discrimination is illegal. Or is this just one more group that doesn’t know the definition.
FF IAFF

The International has been turning their backs on discrimination claims for decades. Shame on you President Schaitberger.. To the readers; Have you ever been told by your employer that your the wrong color or sex for the promotion? Thousands of cops, medics and firefighters have, even after scoring higher, having more training and time on the job, affirmative action points win out

LuckyStar61

Same reverse discrimination quotas have applied within the military since the 70′s.

Robert Exton

WHITE liberals getting what they voted for.
rick

and if the africans fail the test, then they will have to give them the jobs because nobody will tell the afros to kma
http://texasslant.wordpress.com DeeInHouston

Discrimination of any sort should not be tolerated. You want equal rights? Quit telling white people you’re not good enough by stacking the deck. And tell the race-baiting poverty pimps Jackson and Sharpton to get a new gig.

LuckyStar61

How about quit telling people of color, “You’re not good enough on your one merit without the help of quotas stakcing the deck.”

Namretupad

Be honest with yourselves, is anyone genuinely surprised by the discrimination?
Jullou

How many generations will have to pay? And how many of the so-called white devils were European citizens and had nothing to do with slavery or the aftermaths of it? Isn’t this about just making a race of entitlements????

George Johnson

As many as they can get to pay….

Fred Lopez

is is time for the revolution?
this government is not for the people
it is against the constitution and must be stopped
Jefferson said a revolution should happen every 30 years and we are overdue

sgt barnes

to start with, we need to send all the MEXICANS back to mexico.

LuckyStar61

For your information as you seem to have forgotten, SGT B,, American history is full of Spanish sur-names listed in the honored roles of fallen soldiers. Time for you to hit the low-crawl pits and lizzard crawl until you pukel

Boetica

So you support lawlessness? I could give a rat’s azz about surnames.
Bill Clinton

“Mexican” is a nationality, not a race (surname). So chances are pretty good that if you’re a Mexican in the United States you’re not here legally.

LuckyStar61

Are you sure Thomas Jeffeson was not miss-quoted or that it may have George Jefferson who said it?

Oldr New Yorker

Firefighter is rated by life insurance companies as a “Hazardeous Occupation.” The heart attack rate and lung disease rate for firefighters is well above the norm.
If yolu like carrying well over 100 pounds of equipment while climbing an 8 story tall ladder then go for it.
Firefighting tactics in New York City is to fight the fire from within the building. To go into the burning building and vent it. To go up on the roof and vent it. Just hope the building or roof does not cave in. Ever been in a burning building where the walls, floor and ceiling are all on fire at the same time? About as close to hell as one can get.
While i admire people who do this for a living I suugest one really think this type of occup[ation throiugh before becoming a firefighter. Why anyone would want to be a firefighter is beyond me.

BB

For the pension stupid!
Frank Talk

Because the benefits are fantastic and the work isn’t as hard or dangerous as they pretend it is.

Tommy

Because they fight a few fires in their entire career and spend the rest of the time sleeping, cooking, and hanging out. Then they retire at 45 years old with a fat pension.

Mr. Wee Wee

Mr. Wee Wee sez “yOu gO girl” and STAND FIRM behind Barack!

Teddy Ballgame

You moronic libtards. Always playing with somebody else’s wee wee.

Mack Seagrave

I can imagine you repeating that as you are hanging out the top floor rear window surrounded by super heated smoke and getting ready to jump because you are starting to burn while one of these “losers” is being lowered from the roof on a rope to save your sorry butt.
Fritz Von

You have to be racist to use the phrase “reverse discrimination”, aside from quoting the racist.

Nimadan

Anyone who denies there is racism against Whites in the modern US must himself be an anti-White racist. And if you’re of European descent yourself, that just means you’re also a sick self-hater.

Teddy Ballgame

Nimadan is a Nimarod. LOL!

john

We asked why our names were not on the list, they said they did not know. we asked how we would be able to get on their list they claimed they did not know. we also witnessed people entering the test area at 8 pm 1 hour after the tutorial had begun and a good half hour after the instructor claimed the class was full. this was a complete disgrace

muhammedx

that what your union dues get you. Keep voting Democrat and keep pretending you don’t understand.

FF IAFF

He is not in the union yet. You have to be hired and past probation to be a member in good standing. You are right about the union in thins particular topic. The International is afraid ,very afraid of big city democrats. Most of their dues paying members work for the cities that would do this and feel justified.
FF IAFF

He is not in the union yet. You have to be hired and past probation to be a member in good standing. You are right about the union in thins particular topic. The International is afraid ,very afraid of big city democrats. Most of their dues paying members work for the cities that would do this and feel fully justified.

Bob

When the instructors were asked how to get onto the e-mail list they told us they didn’t know. We were also told we showed up to a party we weren’t invited to.
Lonnie

So sad, that none of these mindless comments has anything to do with the story. Folks if you can;t read, go back to school. And if you suffer from ADD get help……

Smshicus

So sad the only comment you have to offer is absolutely worthless. Hope you got more to offer than that.

Jasper

This test is about as hard as a 6th grade spelling test. Like one really needs to study for this. Land pirates in the making.

Niles Farmdugger

“Land pirates in the making.” Wrong test Jasper … this is for the FDNY not the NYPD …
1marg

The dumbing down of tests in all professions has been so that minorities could pass.

You should see the teacher competency tests…some good questions, but to pass the test I think you need a 28% or something that ridiculous.

Can’t wait for the minority health care professionals that obamacare requires.

ron pablo

They’re already out there. One-third of all physicians are goofs from the third world, most of whom have no education past high school and no concern about American history. The healthcare bureaucracy is completely racist and fascist. Amerika’s only hope is Ron Paul and the return to the free market.

harry

reverse discrimination? Poor journalism!
Gerard Fitzgerald

There is only one definition of discrimination, reverse discrimination should mean no discrimination.
L.

Can you guys PLEASE hire a proofreader? It’s so hard to read these stories. “I was told was of the best prep courses around, yes,” DOES THAT REALLY MAKE SENSE TO YOU?

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