FBI Launches Unprecedented Attack On NYPD Over Muslim Surveillance Tactics

Feds: Move Has Alienated People, Hurt Counter Terror Info Gathering Process

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — The head of the Newark FBI said Wednesday the NYPD’s monitoring of Muslims in New Jersey has had a chilling effect on the feds’ ability to gather counter terrorism intelligence.

In the annals of policing this is unheard of. Usually people in law enforcement hang together. If they have squabbles they keep it in the cone of silence.

Not this time.

“What we’re seeing now with the uproar that is occurring in New Jersey is that we’re starting to see cooperation pulled back. People are concerned that they’re being followed. People are concerned that they can’t trust law enforcement,” said FBI Newark Special Agent in Charge Michael Ward.

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Ward said the NYPD’s spying on mosques and Muslim businesses in the Garden State has caused sources to dry up and made the job of gathering counter terrorism intelligence much more difficult, reports CBS 2’s Marcia Kramer.

“It’s starting to have a negative impact. When people pull back cooperation it creates additional risks. It creates blind spots. It hinders our ability to have our finger on the pulse of what’s going on around the state,” Ward said.

Ward’s attack is the latest criticism of NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly’s decision to send cops way beyond the borders of the five boroughs to seek out people who might want to attack New York City.

But it’s the first attack by a brother law enforcement official, and it’s the first public display of what appears to b a long-simmering resentment among federal officials of Kelly’s success in building a 1,000-member counter terrorism unit that rivals any unit anywhere.

By comparison, the Newark FBI office has 100 agents.

Police experts told Kramer the attack is unprecedented.

“I’ve been in the field for 42 years and I can’t recall it happening before,” said Robert McCrie, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

Ward kept his on-camera comments brief, but then leveled other criticism of the NYPD, charging that Kelly’s force keeps a close hold on any intelligence it gathers and only shares what it wants when it wants.

“Law enforcement agencies don’t generally speak in the way this SAC did,” McCrie said.

The NYPD vigorously defended its past and present surveillance tactics and pointed out that many terrorist operations, including the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center and the 9/11 attack were masterminded in New Jersey.

The Department also pointed to the present terror concerns involving Israel and Iran. NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said: “…as the likelihood of military conflict between Israel and/or the United States escalates, understanding where an operative for Hezbollah, Iran’s terror ally, may try to meld in would be absolutely vital for the protection of New York City.”

And in a sort of good cop-bad cop scenario, the head of the FBI in Washington praised Kelly and the NYPD on Wednesday for doing a “remarkable job in protecting New York.”

Mayor Michael Bloomberg has refused to criticize harsh comments from critics of the NYPD’s tactics, including New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, but he did defend the city.

“Anything we’ve done in New Jersey, we have done under an agreement with the state of New Jersey that was signed by a previous governor, and still remains in effect,” said Bloomberg on Tuesday.

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Not backing down one inch, the mayor said the city will continue to gather the kind of information that the Constitution, and court decisions, allow it to do.

“We work with the governor of New Jersey and the state of New Jersey all the time. We’ll continue to do that,” added Bloomberg.

Christie said the NYPD thinks the world is their jurisdiction and the danger, he said, is that one agency cannot be aware of everything, and a lesson of 9/11 is that all levels of law enforcement need to communicate.

“I’m not saying they don’t belong in New Jersey, but tell us! Share it with the appropriate law enforcement agency,” Christie said. “My concern is this kind of obsession that the NYPD seems to have that they’re the masters of the universe.”

WCBS 880’s Levon Putney With Reaction From The FBI

Back in 2005, then New Jersey Gov. Dick Codey signed the executive orders that allowed the NYPD to cross the Hudson, and carry out surveillance operations in New Jersey.

But, as Codey told WCBS 880, he did not authorize any spying.

Where do you stand? Sound off in the comments section below!

  • cd

    0bama is GONE, even NEW YORK will get sick of this man and his drive to become KING!

    • mr.right

      They say “a picture says 1000 words” and this is very true even more so if you look at it closely, because the photo shows the police officers hanging their head low, but the Muslims with their head up and hugging one another as if they’ve been victimized somehow. 9/11 happened because we weren’t vigilant enough. CARE (the Council for Islamic American relations) the same care that is a unindicted co-conspirator with Hamas; has been training our FBI how to do the two-step with Islam. This whole article shows that stealth Jihad is tying the hands of our law enforcement. And if we don’t wake up, 9/11 will be a good day compared to what they have in store for us! Wake up America!

    • notoneofyou

      THe Jews seem to think NYC is their special enclave, far from
      American jurisprudence.

      OBL, the late, said it was the Jews that he was bombing in New Yokr 9/11,
      the building owned by Silverstein and occupied by…
      Bloomberg, now convinced he’d never be elected President, shows his hand.
      He has armaments from the US government. But thinks to use them for
      the Israeli govenrment.

      LIke Netannyahu, he thinks to move big before the election. When, he thinks
      no one will stop him.
      Is this the kind of thing Germany was so sick of?

      • dave

        Stop with the Jews controlling everything already! If they controlled so much, why is the FBI stepping in? Another story about the US preparing to strike Iran, someone blames the Jews, that obama would bomb Iran because of the Jews. Jeez, talk about paranoid. obama is a puppet for soros, and he is a socialist (they don’t like Jews)

        • blank

          the zionist run new york. the US is bombing the middle east to destablizes the region so the zionist can feel safe & expand there borders.

      • marywnm

        you appear to have the correct name

      • JByrd42

        You are a total moron. Now, go pray to Allah. lol

      • Steve

        Remember in the 60’s when the mooslims were gonna drive Israel into the sea?

        How did that work out for the religion of peace?

        • blank

          where did you get your info about muslims driving the jews in the sea? if you think that islam allows killing of others just because their different from you then you are wrong. start doing some reading @ http://www.aboutjihad.com/

        • Diane

          Not just the 60’s. That has been their goal ever since Israel became a state.

      • Jeff Sayin

        Very curious the moderator for this board decided to DELETE my prior comments pointing out the FACT that the reason there is so many commenters here spewing their viile racist views devoid of any substanitve conmments is because the Drudge Report linked to this article and the Drudge trolls dutifully show up to spew their garbage.

        So what does the CBS moderator do, leaves up all the anti-semitic and Obama hating comments while deleting comments from those pleading for a more substantive and respectful comments and dialogue.

        Does the local CBS station have an agenda of pushing these racist views?

        • Diane

          So I take it that anyone who doesn’t agree with you deserves to be called names.

    • mr.right

      hey hi ho obamas got to go!

    • Cate

      Its funny that Fat Cat Christie is accusing others of thinking they are Masters of the Universe!!!!

  • Mike G

    The NYPD ran afoul of the FBI by spying on the Fuhrer’s blood brothers.

    • Mark

      Bo ho cry me a river loser lib

    • RS

      Jeff, is the union paying by the hour, or per post? Or just some overtime in Soros office? Staff time with a Dem politician?

    • Guy

      Keep trying, tiger.

    • theJackal

      What a Kool-Aid swilling tool…. Obama is a fraud, that’s why his Birf Cert. is a forgery, that’s why he has a Conn. Social Security number, that’s why his school records, papers are sealed. That’s why his foriegn student scholarship is sealed, that why these videos of him chumming with vermin, were surpressed by the Left’s own admission. It truley is amazing, 40 years ago the entire regieme would of been tried for treason, now they run the show. We are doomed. “I’ve seen the enemy, and he is us.”

    • birdman

      I came here from Drudge & i’m neither a troll or a racist thereby making you’re comment totally null & void! I think they all are closing the net,the federalis & nypd to put us all in their police state.There is a reason why any group other than the rank & file socialists democrats are being targeted as “home grown terrorists.” They want anyone who are awake & not drinking the koolaid silenced..Stop watching the news & educate you’reself..

    • Jack von Bauer

      “the current and duly elected President of the United States.”

      Not for long, racist.pig.

    • GetObamaOUT

      another whiney libtard.. Jeff sayin, really? go cry in the corner and wait for your obama handout

    • Jeff Sayin Nothin


    • Mama T

      Who can’t come up with a legit birth certificate and has a Connecticut SS number, but has never lived in CT.

      • mr.right

        Yep! Obama own grandmother talks about him being born in Kenya, and actually witnessing him being born in a Kenyan hospital.
        No wonder he has always kissing muzzy butt and snubbing the U.S. Constitution along with our allies Israel and the UK. I believe he has a pathological hatred for our country.

    • Robotech

      You are a sad pitiful person who can’t see what is right in front of your face. This is the electronic age and if you expected borders, you should get the “F” off your computer. Kinda like the countries borders, all us forign people floodin your territory! Get as sensative about the real borders, put your big girl panties on and vote the Muslim Dictator out!!!

    • Steve

      You’re a real intellectual, eh?

  • W. Donoavan

    Is this from the same FBI that failed to stop the Muslim extremists from attacking NYC and VA on 9/11?

  • B. Samuel Davis

    Great – now the FBI is a Democratic organization – we should be very afraid of this new Gestapo

    • ARA

      Now? You think this is NEW? Holy cow, this goes back at least as far as the Clinton “administration.”

  • TStewart

    Amazing that an operation supported and sanctioned by the federal gov’t would now have this kind of flack from an FBI office. Let me guess. It’s an election year!

    • Jeff Sayin

      And about half the comments here are from some nut talking to himself using various fake names

      • donald

        Jeff I’m sayin you are “INSANE”!!

      • dave

        yeah, like jeff sayin. Even the Muslims did not have a problem with what the NYPD was doing. The elders welcomed everything NYPD was up to

      • mac

        Oh, Bull. You are just a myopic liberal.

    • Jack von Bauer

      You’re as deluded as you are stupid. You racist pig.

  • Shelley

    The only reason that some Muslims are withdrawing their cooperation with the FBI is that the Associated Press exposed the counterterrorism efforts of the NYPD, otherwise this would not be an issue.

    Thanks AP for making it harder for not only the NYPD to monitor extremists but the FBI also.

    • Splash

      You hit the nail on the head

    • Constant Researcher

      There is another reason why muslims are withdrawing their cooperation. C.A.I.R. has been advising them not to cooperate.

  • Jackoo7

    Everything I needed to know about muslims was learned on 9/11.

    Now everthing the counter-terrorist units need to know will come almost 100% from the muslim community. If you are looking for old folks you best look in an old age home, if you are looking for terrorists visit your local mosque. NYPD is NY’s finest in my book.

    • ImaHippyBurning

      Amen Brother!

  • Pat

    Let me guess…Bloomberg come out squeeky clean…What ever happened with the investigation on the NYC union snow plowers that let the snow pile up and people died?…I’ll bet Bloomberg cleaned house…Yeah, right…

  • Old Grey

    You gotta love the NYPD cop on the job. Here is a prime example of NYPD performance.

    Several years ago..the feds try to find a rabbit in central park. They report to the agency head that there are no rabbits.

    NYPD goes into central park. They come out with a bear in handcuffs, and a knott on his head. The bear is screamin” Ok..Ok…Im a friggin Rabbit…..!”

    Good work guys…keep up the good work….

    Another Badge….:)

    • TheBeatGoesON

      Old Grey? Been there, done that, eh? Thank you mister for your service & trying to make a difference. I liked your bear/ rabbit camp fire lesson/ story. Central Park without a REAL means of protecting my life? Not even for that overused “New York minute! No Sir! ‘Round here, we know that trying to carry a cop to survive is just not practical. That’s ONE reason handguns/ rifles were invented. Much more efficient as the truth IS, when seconds count, the police are only minutes away. can’t “be there” for everyone all the time. Anyway, the idea of making nice with believers or followers in/ of the “prophet”MO. Can’t REALLY HONEST OR BEFRIEND non-believers so what’s the point?! That’s just THEIR rules so Mister Mayor and too many others, you are feeding the CROC hoping not to be eaten. What a MO roon! Eh, “waht’s up dope/” Thanks for your story Old Grey and the good guys- you know who you are ;-} ) at NYPD FDNY and a few others, Thanks for doing what’s needed.

      • mr.right

        You are absolutely right! What the FBI would not do due to this current administration (play nice with the Muslims ) in fact what a lot of you don’t know is CARE (the Council on Islamic American relations) for years has been training out FBI and other law enforcement in how to deal with Muslims. The problem with that is, CARE is a unindicted co-conspirator with Hamas, is this crazy or what? They are training our law enforcement how to protect Muslims terrorists. Now,his is not stealth Jihad what is? And if this isn’t sleeping with the enemy what is?

  • jake49

    Good job NYPD, keep up the good work.

  • JAG

    Just think how much safer we would be without the Federal Government.

  • Omar

    The FBI investigates the info that the “muslim community” feels like disclosing, while the NYPD investigates the info that THEY uncover as a result of their police work. Notice the difference? The NYPD is in charge of their counterterrorism investigations while the FBI is subservient to the “muslim community,” which in turn is amenable to influence by mosque leaders who are overwhelmingly supportive of the Muslim Brotherhood and receive tremenfous amounts from Saudi Arabia . . . And now, they’re complaining because the NYPD doesn’t just “take their word for it” when it comes to what’s important for them to know . . . ? Sorry, NYPD is absolutely right on this one.

    • NWBill

      Agreed. The NYPD had to deal with 9/11 in its’ own city; FBI Headquarters or Quantico weren’t targeted in the attack.

      I’m gonna give NYPD the benefit of the doubt.

  • The Bruce

    Here’s a free piece of advice to the FBI that obviously didn’t get the memo:

    Ninety-nine percent of Muslims aren’t terrorists, but ninety-nine percent of terrorists are Muslim.

    I salute the NYPD for not bowing to politically correct idiocy.

    • rulierose

      right on! I second that emotion ;-)

  • Tracy Schillaci

    We have the most divisive president in modern history. So why would anyone be surprised that law enforcement official will be going at each other?

    This is what you get with divide and conquer political tactics. Obama backs OWS who hate cops. Obama backs police unions while bashing them in front of the NAACP. Obama backs the working poor AND the environmentalist who really don’t care about the working poor. In fact the environmentalist care more about a owl then they do humans.

    Obama is our president and now we are going to reap what he has sown!

    • Flerdesu

      “We have the most divisive president in modern history. ”

      It’s a mistake to mix up your mental state (which, I assume, merely mirrors the days rant on FOX news) with reality in the physical world.

      • BigBrotherIsGod

        Much of the news is made up after the coup and cover up. Unelected officials took over Washington and the media. They think you can’t handle the truth. Fact of the matter is we have no democracy, president, and freedom of press is an illusion.

        Our next election is shaping up to be as big of a sham as the last. Do you know why Sarah Palin’s bus tour was really canceled? Do you know why she stayed 30 miles away from the second debate and chose the death of Steve Jobs to announce that she’s not running? Know what leaked out? Sarah Palin and Cain aren’t in the race for the same reason, the truth leaked out. Search PalinsDirtyLittleSecret for the biggest cover up in history

        • AZH

          No I don’t. Please do tell us.

      • Tracy Schillaci

        Like almost every liberal in this world you do not have the ability to explain why I am wrong so you just resort to personal attacks.

        At least you admit you don’t watch Fox News, yet are not smart enough to not bring it up. You really should not make comment on things you know nothing about.

        I will await an intelligent reply from you but I won’t hold my breath, no one can survive that long.

      • JR

        Nice ad hominem attack. D*uche.

      • BigBrotherIsGod

        So much of the news is made up after the coup and cover up. Unelected officials took over Washington and the media. They think you can’t handle the truth. Fact of the matter is we have no democracy, president, and freedom of press is an illusion.

        Our next election is shaping up to be as big of a sham as the last. Do you know why Sarah Palin’s bus tour was really canceled? Do you know why she stayed 30 miles away from the second debate and chose the death of Steve Jobs to announce that she’s not running? Know what leaked out? Sarah Palin and Cain aren’t in the race for the same reason, the truth leaked out. Search PalinsDirtyLittleSecret for the biggest cover up in history

    • r charles

      Thannk you for your comment.

      • TheBeatGoesON

        Nice r charles. Smooth, and straight.

  • Mark Matis

    FBI works for Robert Mueller who works for Eric Holder. Members of the Religion of Peace are a Preferred Species, so OF COURSE the NYPD was wrong. Now if they had been infiltrating Christians instead, everything would be fine! Because after all, everyone KNOWS it’s those dam Christians who are the REAL terrorists…

  • Joe Doakes

    Do not take away the NYPD’s ability to defend NYC.

    They have street level wisdom the Feds can’t hope to ever create.

    • notoneofyou

      But they’re not the FEDERAL GOVERNMENT>

      They don’t have the mandate.
      It’s sill American, not Israeli laws in New York City.

      ANd Amdrican law reighs. May they REIGN IN HARD SOON.

  • dummy

    Bravo, I commend them for standing on this issue. Its ridiculous that the CIA is training the NYPD the way to operate without limits.

    • The Tin Man

      Your name says it all…………………..

      • TheBeatGoesON

        That’s a GOOD heart (The) Tin Man.

  • sturdee beggar

    It’s an ‘effing no brainer. NYC cops are manning the barricades. Can’t blame ’em.

  • therese

    Sooo is the New York Police Department Going to Back Obama this Election.
    I Pray Not


    The FBI is dead wrong on this one.

  • Co-Intel Pro

    Maybe the FBI is worried that the NYPD might catch them running a “false flag” attack. More than likely though it is probably as Paul Bopko wrote earlier, it came down from Eric Holder an IslamObama :-)

    • John Ramirez

      The city of New York is now being savaged by thier own liberal policies from a federal level. You reap what you sew New York!

  • Tommy

    So why would the Feds have the right to shove the State of NY from doing their job. The power is supposed to be with the states, not the federal government.

  • Alan Whitney

    Well, when the President is a Muslim, what do you expect?

    • JC71

      I know people will roll their eyes at that comment but from a legalistic Islamic perspective, it’s true.

      In Islam if the father is Muslim, the child is automatically considered to be muslim. In Obama’s case, his natural father was a muslim and his step-father was. So legally speaking, from a Koran-centric point of view, he’s a muslim.

      Add to the fact that he grew up in a muslim country, attended madrassah’s, etc. then he minimized America’s Christian heritige, while at the same time praising Islam in Cairo, and ultimately bowed to the king of Saudi Arabia in submission and it’s pretty clear, he takes HIS heritage seriously.

      • Stephen

        Can you name the verse? I want to look it up.

        • JC71


          “It says in al-Mawsoo’ah al-Fiqhiyyah al-Kuwaitiyyah (4/270): The fuqaha’ are unanimously agreed that if the father becomes Muslim and he has young children, then these children are to be regarded as Muslim, following their father.

          The majority (the Hanafis, Shaafa’is and Hanbalis) are of the view that what counts is the Islam of one of the parents, whether it is the father or mother, so the children are to be regarded as Muslims, following the parent, because Islam should prevail and not be prevailed over, because it is the religion of Allah that He is pleased with for His slaves.

          Secondly: When the Muslim child reaches the age of puberty, he is not required to utter the Shahaadatayn again.”

  • Mary Wright

    Gee, I think its good they are looking for people who might want to kill us. What is the problem with that? If we had more of that before 9/11 think of how many lives might have been saved?

  • Paul Bopko

    Who really believes that the FBI did this on their own? The word came doown from the Atty General from the Anointed one

  • TJP

    The FBI doesn’t care about the surveillance of Muslims, what they’re annoyed about is the NYPD scaring their surveillance targets by being a bit too obvious about it. If the NYPD hardly ever got caught, the FBI wouldn’t mind.

    • TheBeatGoesON

      You have a good point TJP.
      Being too obvious and being caught or IDed,THAT is bad and what is making it all worse and MUCH MORE and an END GAME Danger is that there are many of those intend on infiltrating THIS “Great Satan” and at least slit SOMEONE’s throat ( it is written and even better, there is some goofy “reward” of virgins) so if I can’t trust them because of THEIR OWN TEACHINGS, I don’t want them in places where they can do the damage required in their “lesson plan”. Why are there SO MANY in positions of access and responsibility?! WTF?! What about WTT [ 1993 AND back again to finish the (NUTjob ion 911] and much more? This whole thing stinks just as/ like B.O. and that’s why I’m damn tired of having to HOLD er my nose. I am an American citizen just as/ like many of my family before. I’ve lived in other lands and met many people of many cultural backgrounds and I have lived long enough to KNOW- For A Fact!, Jack- be YE an American, for real, care about where you CALL YOUR HOME,- do not hang out with folks who wear sheet kinda clothes when they are wealthy; you know, like KKK types OR Arab types. They don’t think of you as even a huMAN. That’s not cool. Not supposed to be that way here in the US of A We’ve come too far. We’ve been to the mountain. Time to get real, chose what’s right and make the “officials”, those wealthy, insulated big shot photo-op, self serving pols, quit the PC crud and do right by/ for US Stop the separating us by class, race, by faith. These 50 states, our home, is what we have. It’s not perfect but it’s still better than those crappy places they are leaving and coming here to destroy. As a wise guy once said (in a nice, simple old brick church in Richmond,Virginia back when some dudes wore white powdered wigs), guy’s name was Patrick Henry,” I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or, give me death”. It was JUST THAT IMPORTANT to him and a whole lot of other cats too. We have a way of life here that is waaaaqay better than what THEY have and I for one, don’t want to be around em when one decides to “cash in on those 72 virgins”.KABOOM! No thanks. Not in my Country. Bad enough {“you”) do that to your own people but I think most of us here, don’t dig that sort of expression. Too anti-social and primitive for this 21st Century Mo. If you’re not with us, you ARE against US of A. Thank you NYPD for educating yourselves to the enemy you face. It would be impossible to handle otherwise….and the big bois know that. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”. I prefer “In GOD we trust. All others pay cash”. Dang if We Ain’t Bein’ Bamboozled!” sorry I did go on. Peace, out.

  • JeffT

    The FBI and the DOJ have both been infiltrated by CAIR-types, pro-Muslim groups that see Islamophobia behind every attempt to prevent bombings and the like. Obama and Holder are doing everything they can to prevent law enforcement from doing their jobs. The Ft. Hood massacre is a prime example of letting the fox into the chicken coop. Even the Army has been indoctrinated in Islamic sympathies at the expense of our safety. Those 13 people at Ft. Hood didn’t have to die. The Army knew about Nidal’s leanings and let him continue to work with returning vets.

  • Mockmood

    Freeking hilarious! I feel safer knowing law enforcement is watching these people diligently. The first Trade Center bombing was planned inside a “mosque” in Brooklyn. And on 9/11, they didn’t scream ‘Allah Akbar’ as they murdered innocents because that’s what you say when you’re having fun. Those bearded bomber monkeys have been plotting to kill, enslave, and terrorize infidels since the 7th century. I avoid those animals like the plague, and I train my kids to do the same. It’s a simple precaution that can save their lives.

  • robbie

    NYPD believes that its should be proactive in searching out potential threats, however i am sure that abuses to civil rights occur when they are doing this,
    the NYPD should practice its motto, Courtesy Professionalism and Respect
    alot of the younger NY police i encounter have been rude, and curse at you and i am white. But the real problem is when NYPD chase a young man into his house and kill him infront of his family, this should not be forgotten that NYPD will chase you into your home enter without a warrant and kill you. BRONX da needs to indict ASAP. NYPD should no CPR toward this young man.(Ramarley Graham murdered by disrespectful NYPD punk.

    • FNYPD

      NYPD is disgusting, it’s a worse criminal organization (legal at that) in history of NYC, they’re the biggest bully’s, bigots, criminals and murderers. Killing citizens for as little as one joint of cannabis, are you people serious, you defending them? Feds should come in and overthrow these thugs! You’ve giving away your rights for nothing, nothing at all, and you keep giving it away.

      Stop pointing fingers, look around you and what you’re doing *NOTHING*, yet you’re defending an organization that see you as cattle now, you’re nothing to them, your representatives listen to money, NYPD is militarizing against it’s citizens, women are being attacked from all sides. Please take your head out of your ass for once and stand for what our funding fathers envisioned for this country.

      Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
      — Benjamin Franklin

    • Charlie

      You need to go back to school, your grammar is atrocious….

      • TheBeatGoesON

        Hey, my name’s Charlie too. I see your point Charlie but Robbie has his concerns about something he and friend(s) have been through that we might NOT know about. Like any and all “groups” of people, there will be bad ones. Always remember and never forget, cops are people too. Just sayin’, let’s stick together or we hang separately. And FYI, I think it’s cool that you spelled out “atrocious”. You’re correct and probably actually made Robbie and others, including me/ myself AND I, better writers for that “notice”. I do it too sometimes. Just get frustrated and “pick”. But has anyone else noticed how difficult it is to see and re-read what you have typed? Oh well, I’m getting too old…..G’night Charlie

  • Mike Jones

    FBI…. Fumbling Bunch of Incompetents.

  • Doug

    The FBI for decades has had a policy of NOT sharing information with local law enforcement even when the withholding of that information has jeopordized local law enforcement’s safety. I have seen it time and time again. Only recently has the FBI started to share information with local law enforcement and it has only been done in a very limited way. It’s rather ironic that the FBI now complains about this when they are STILL the biggest offender. Had the alphabet agencies SHARED suspect information prior to 9/11 it possiblycould have been prevented. The FBI still mistakeningly believes they are the tip of the spear when it comes to terrorism investigations, but it is the local departments who actually are and they need to remember this. The NYPD’s detectives are running circles around the FBI in protecting the City from attacks and are doing it for a lot less money.

    • Bloodless Coup

      It helps to know that the Professor that Bathhouse Barry was heaping praise on in the video that was released today was an avid supporter of Louis Farrahkan, the charismatic leader of the Nation of Islam Cult.


      Context is everything.

    • Capt. Howard. E. Battles, Ret.

      Doug is right on point. When dealing with local departments, THE FBI has always been BIG ME, little you. After 9/11, they felt they had to reinvent the wheel to fight terrorism within the USA, when actually there were Law Enforcement units already in place, like Drug Task Forces, for example, who were already “close to the ground” and had informants. All it would have taken was a little training on terrorism and they would have been ready to go. In many cases, the Feds did not take advantage of the anger and desire for revenge felt by local officers. They would have worked for FREE.

    • The Tin Man

      Amen Brother………………

  • Chartruce

    NYPD just doin they job. If you let the wolves (radical molems) into the chicken house they gonna be eaten KFC and usin the chicken wing bone as a tooth pic

  • FireTheFeds

    Yet another reason to abolish the misguided FBI. They can’t even figure out who the enemy is. We have no need for federal police who’s agenda is so clearly political. Time to clean house.

    • mezoo

      the enemy are chinese communists. yer all idiots. hundreds of nukes and i’ll bet you love walmart.

  • cj

    It is time to get rid of Ward and Mueller. Especially Mueller, he has been there too long. The same applies to him as to our state representatives. Four years is enough. The idea was to serve your country, not live off of it.

  • Web Mark

    WE should have kept the canal and given them New York!

  • JC71

    This would be the same FBI that just removed 1000 pages of training materials that referenced the violent aspects of Islam and the Koran from their traning manuals.

    The FBI has been infiltrated by CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood for several years now. Take what they say with a grain, no, shovel full of salt.

  • Momofthree

    This is exactly what Muzzies want…. rule over America.

    • notoneofyou

      Oh, but looks like it’s what the Jews want,
      congrol of New York City
      They”ve tried it so many paces inthe world, and been kiicked out,
      often the very hard way.

      Read history much?LIke it?

  • Moe

    The divider in chief sicking his Gestapo on state and local law enforcement. Wake up sheeple! You could be next.

  • The Tin Man

    NEVER and I do mean NEVER EVER trust a fed……………..

    …..and since when have they shared anything with anybody………..

  • Dennis

    Of course the FBI is attacking the NYPD for surveying potential Jihadists to protect us from possible attacks. It’s under Holder’s control, and Holder’s boss is Obama. I mean, what more do we need to know?

  • moe Tom

    Far too much chatter. The terrorists are eating it up.

  • Matthew Dunnyveg

    Do you know what the good thing about the federal government is?

    I don’t either, but we’re all paying for it.

    • TheBeatGoesON

      That was both witty and sadly true. And IT don’t come cheap!

  • Doolittle Bush

    The FBI can go pound sand. If their business had been put out there on front street the way NYPD’s has been, it would have had the same effects. The Premier Law Enforcement Agency, otherwise known as the FBI, can’t stand any other agency doing anything that they (FBI) thinks is their mission only. If they were half as competent as NYPD, maybe NYPD wouldn’t need to be doing these surveillance activities.

  • BarryS

    Good. NYC is out of control. Stay in your own damn city.
    This is all about control people. Keep you in fear and take your rights away.


    • Charlie

      BarryS=man in need of a long walk off of a short pier……..

  • Barry bin Inhalin

    FBI = DOJ = Holder = OhZer0. Does anyone not get it? Muslims are home free – per Barry of Kenya.

  • PETE

    Now, the FBI is coming out of their hole! Where were they before and after 9/11? They have so much crap before their own door, and should better clean up their act before attacking our NYC Police Department! Stop looking for excuses for your own lousy police work, and keep out of politics!! If the FBI would be half as good as our NYPD, they would have eliminated Organized Crime, International Drug Trafficking, and lately Internet crimes in their own backyard in New Jersey a long time ago. Just look at your ridiculous record and stop bothering Agencies with better, much better police work!

    • steve fox

      Now, the FBI is coming out of their hole! Where were they before and after 9/11? They have so much crap before their own door, and should better clean up their act before attacking our NYC Police Department! Stop looking for excuses for your own lousy police work, and keep out of politics!! If the FBI would be half as good as our NYPD, they would have eliminated Organized Crime, International Drug Trafficking, and lately Internet crimes in their own backyard in New Jersey a long time ago. Just look at your ridiculous record and stop bothering Agencies with better, much better police work!
      I sat home all day and played http://scrabblecheat.com and watched the news. It is clear nothing will stop the muslims. Either we monitor them or we leave them alone and hope they cooperate? We can see how much they want to help by arresting the muslims that helped find Osama Bin Laden. Monitoring won’t work because they will just target another city.

    • Marc

      “and keep out of politics!”! What right do the NYPD have to go out of their Jurisdiction. What the Hell were they doing in Arizona gun shows. Until you have no crime in New York, teep your butts there

      • PETE

        The NYPD went to Arizona BECAUSE most of the guns with which crimes were committed in NYC came from there! This is just good police work. What don’t you understand? That it would be the job of the FBI? That is correct, and it is exactly the point I want to make. The FBI is now playing politics to kiss Christies ass, and to cover up their own inability to do what the NYPD under Kelly is doing for years in NYC: To do good police work!!

        • r charles

          yes and the guns in arizona came from holders fast and furious?

      • Michael

        The NYPD’s jurisdiction is anywhere their investigations takes them. Jurisdictions only matter in the authorization to make an arrest or where the case is prosecuted. However, in the investigation stage there is no such thing as jurisdiction.

        • Marc

          But they have to coordinate with the Local LE. They didn’t do that so they are in violation.

          • Michael

            Coordination between agencies, in this context is a courtesy, not a steadfast rule and certainly not a violation of law.

            On most criminal cases coordinating between LE agencies is done. However, based on the ensuing hoopla, it appears NYPD had a good reason to limit the disclosure of their investigative activities.

            LE left out of the loop are acting cry babies.

            And it’s seems apparent why the Muslim Brother front groups such as CAIR, have their panties in a bunch.

  • The Facts

    We are now in the third week of this never ending non-story.

  • Vik

    I remember my daddy used to take a stick and dip it in some dog mess then stick it in my mouth “business end first”
    To this day I can’t help but take a taste when I see a fresh “treat” next to the sidewalk

  • Len

    Take the frigging towels off your heads, and you’ll bel left alone, we have the right to defend against terrorists especially those that resemble them, go back to where you came from.

  • Vik

    Hey, Christie the Cow — stick to what you know best. Kentucky Fried Chicken. Ring Dings. Fried Bacon. And Denny’s. And leave the real policing and governing to people who know how to do it here in NYC.

    • Mark Matis

      It would be nice if those doing the policing would bother to honor their oath to the Constitution. But that isn’t about to happen any time soon now, is it?

      • mr.right

        It never ceases to amaze me how day after day week after week they’ll have some victimize homosexual or some poor innocent desert dweller (muzzy) who came to the United States for a better life only to be further victimize by our U.S. Constitution and not allowing this muzzy desert dweller to practice a sharia on his daughter (honor killing) or demanding that she not be photographed for her drivers license but be allowed to wear a burqa.,,,,

        • mr.right

          ….Or behead his wife just the other day some Pennsylvania judge dismissed charges on a Islamic man who attacked a man for wearing a Halloween costume that resembled Mohammed. The judge said the Islamic man had every right to attack a man who wore the costume because sharia law takes precedence over American law and because the man believed that Islam was insulted that the Islamic person didn’t break any laws. We better wake-up!

    • Charlie

      Took the words outta my mouth!!

    • vtto r.

      did you read the same article I did?
      and don’t come over the river to jersey we don’t need anymore spendaholics.
      thank you.

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