FBI Launches Unprecedented Attack On NYPD Over Muslim Surveillance Tactics

Feds: Move Has Alienated People, Hurt Counter Terror Info Gathering Process

March 7, 2012 11:22 PM

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NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) – The head of the Newark FBI said Wednesday the NYPD’s monitoring of Muslims in New Jersey has had a chilling effect on the feds’ ability to gather counter terrorism intelligence.

In the annals of policing this is unheard of. Usually people in law enforcement hang together. If they have squabbles they keep it in the cone of silence.

Not this time.

“What we’re seeing now with the uproar that is occurring in New Jersey is that we’re starting to see cooperation pulled back. People are concerned that they’re being followed. People are concerned that they can’t trust law enforcement,” said FBI Newark Special Agent in Charge Michael Ward.

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Ward said the NYPD’s spying on mosques and Muslim businesses in the Garden State has caused sources to dry up and made the job of gathering counter terrorism intelligence much more difficult, reports CBS 2′s Marcia Kramer.

“It’s starting to have a negative impact. When people pull back cooperation it creates additional risks. It creates blind spots. It hinders our ability to have our finger on the pulse of what’s going on around the state,” Ward said.

Ward’s attack is the latest criticism of NYPD Commissioner Ray Kelly’s decision to send cops way beyond the borders of the five boroughs to seek out people who might want to attack New York City.

But it’s the first attack by a brother law enforcement official, and it’s the first public display of what appears to b a long-simmering resentment among federal officials of Kelly’s success in building a 1,000-member counter terrorism unit that rivals any unit anywhere.

By comparison, the Newark FBI office has 100 agents.

Police experts told Kramer the attack is unprecedented.

“I’ve been in the field for 42 years and I can’t recall it happening before,” said Robert McCrie, a professor at John Jay College of Criminal Justice.

Ward kept his on-camera comments brief, but then leveled other criticism of the NYPD, charging that Kelly’s force keeps a close hold on any intelligence it gathers and only shares what it wants when it wants.

“Law enforcement agencies don’t generally speak in the way this SAC did,” McCrie said.

The NYPD vigorously defended its past and present surveillance tactics and pointed out that many terrorist operations, including the 1993 attack on the World Trade Center and the 9/11 attack were masterminded in New Jersey.

The Department also pointed to the present terror concerns involving Israel and Iran. NYPD spokesman Paul Browne said: “…as the likelihood of military conflict between Israel and/or the United States escalates, understanding where an operative for Hezbollah, Iran’s terror ally, may try to meld in would be absolutely vital for the protection of New York City.”

And in a sort of good cop-bad cop scenario, the head of the FBI in Washington praised Kelly and the NYPD on Wednesday for doing a “remarkable job in protecting New York.”

Mayor Michael Bloomberg has refused to criticize harsh comments from critics of the NYPD’s tactics, including New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie, but he did defend the city.

“Anything we’ve done in New Jersey, we have done under an agreement with the state of New Jersey that was signed by a previous governor, and still remains in effect,” said Bloomberg on Tuesday.

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Not backing down one inch, the mayor said the city will continue to gather the kind of information that the Constitution, and court decisions, allow it to do.

“We work with the governor of New Jersey and the state of New Jersey all the time. We’ll continue to do that,” added Bloomberg.

Christie said the NYPD thinks the world is their jurisdiction and the danger, he said, is that one agency cannot be aware of everything, and a lesson of 9/11 is that all levels of law enforcement need to communicate.

“I’m not saying they don’t belong in New Jersey, but tell us! Share it with the appropriate law enforcement agency,” Christie said. “My concern is this kind of obsession that the NYPD seems to have that they’re the masters of the universe.”

WCBS 880′s Levon Putney With Reaction From The FBI

Back in 2005, then New Jersey Gov. Dick Codey signed the executive orders that allowed the NYPD to cross the Hudson, and carry out surveillance operations in New Jersey.

But, as Codey told WCBS 880, he did not authorize any spying.

Where do you stand? Sound off in the comments section below!

FBI Launches Unprecedented Attack On NYPD Over Muslim Surveillance Tactics

TJP

The FBI doesn’t care about the surveillance of Muslims, what they’re annoyed about is the NYPD scaring their surveillance targets by being a bit too obvious about it. If the NYPD hardly ever got caught, the FBI wouldn’t mind.

TheBeatGoesON

You have a good point TJP.
Being too obvious and being caught or IDed,THAT is bad and what is making it all worse and MUCH MORE and an END GAME Danger is that there are many of those intend on infiltrating THIS “Great Satan” and at least slit SOMEONE’s throat ( it is written and even better, there is some goofy “reward” of virgins) so if I can’t trust them because of THEIR OWN TEACHINGS, I don’t want them in places where they can do the damage required in their “lesson plan”. Why are there SO MANY in positions of access and responsibility?! WTF?! What about WTT [ 1993 AND back again to finish the (NUTjob ion 911] and much more? This whole thing stinks just as/ like B.O. and that’s why I’m damn tired of having to HOLD er my nose. I am an American citizen just as/ like many of my family before. I’ve lived in other lands and met many people of many cultural backgrounds and I have lived long enough to KNOW- For A Fact!, Jack- be YE an American, for real, care about where you CALL YOUR HOME,- do not hang out with folks who wear sheet kinda clothes when they are wealthy; you know, like KKK types OR Arab types. They don’t think of you as even a huMAN. That’s not cool. Not supposed to be that way here in the US of A We’ve come too far. We’ve been to the mountain. Time to get real, chose what’s right and make the “officials”, those wealthy, insulated big shot photo-op, self serving pols, quit the PC crud and do right by/ for US Stop the separating us by class, race, by faith. These 50 states, our home, is what we have. It’s not perfect but it’s still better than those crappy places they are leaving and coming here to destroy. As a wise guy once said (in a nice, simple old brick church in Richmond,Virginia back when some dudes wore white powdered wigs), guy’s name was Patrick Henry,” I know not what course others may take, but as for me, give me liberty or, give me death”. It was JUST THAT IMPORTANT to him and a whole lot of other cats too. We have a way of life here that is waaaaqay better than what THEY have and I for one, don’t want to be around em when one decides to “cash in on those 72 virgins”.KABOOM! No thanks. Not in my Country. Bad enough {“you”) do that to your own people but I think most of us here, don’t dig that sort of expression. Too anti-social and primitive for this 21st Century Mo. If you’re not with us, you ARE against US of A. Thank you NYPD for educating yourselves to the enemy you face. It would be impossible to handle otherwise….and the big bois know that. “The enemy of my enemy is my friend”. I prefer “In GOD we trust. All others pay cash”. Dang if We Ain’t Bein’ Bamboozled!” sorry I did go on. Peace, out.

JeffT

The FBI and the DOJ have both been infiltrated by CAIR-types, pro-Muslim groups that see Islamophobia behind every attempt to prevent bombings and the like. Obama and Holder are doing everything they can to prevent law enforcement from doing their jobs. The Ft. Hood massacre is a prime example of letting the fox into the chicken coop. Even the Army has been indoctrinated in Islamic sympathies at the expense of our safety. Those 13 people at Ft. Hood didn’t have to die. The Army knew about Nidal’s leanings and let him continue to work with returning vets.
Mockmood

Freeking hilarious! I feel safer knowing law enforcement is watching these people diligently. The first Trade Center bombing was planned inside a “mosque” in Brooklyn. And on 9/11, they didn’t scream ‘Allah Akbar’ as they murdered innocents because that’s what you say when you’re having fun. Those bearded bomber monkeys have been plotting to kill, enslave, and terrorize infidels since the 7th century. I avoid those animals like the plague, and I train my kids to do the same. It’s a simple precaution that can save their lives.
robbie

NYPD believes that its should be proactive in searching out potential threats, however i am sure that abuses to civil rights occur when they are doing this,
the NYPD should practice its motto, Courtesy Professionalism and Respect
alot of the younger NY police i encounter have been rude, and curse at you and i am white. But the real problem is when NYPD chase a young man into his house and kill him infront of his family, this should not be forgotten that NYPD will chase you into your home enter without a warrant and kill you. BRONX da needs to indict ASAP. NYPD should no CPR toward this young man.(Ramarley Graham murdered by disrespectful NYPD punk.

Charlie

You need to go back to school, your grammar is atrocious….

TheBeatGoesON

Hey, my name’s Charlie too. I see your point Charlie but Robbie has his concerns about something he and friend(s) have been through that we might NOT know about. Like any and all “groups” of people, there will be bad ones. Always remember and never forget, cops are people too. Just sayin’, let’s stick together or we hang separately. And FYI, I think it’s cool that you spelled out “atrocious”. You’re correct and probably actually made Robbie and others, including me/ myself AND I, better writers for that “notice”. I do it too sometimes. Just get frustrated and “pick”. But has anyone else noticed how difficult it is to see and re-read what you have typed? Oh well, I’m getting too old…..G’night Charlie

FNYPD

NYPD is disgusting, it’s a worse criminal organization (legal at that) in history of NYC, they’re the biggest bully’s, bigots, criminals and murderers. Killing citizens for as little as one joint of cannabis, are you people serious, you defending them? Feds should come in and overthrow these thugs! You’ve giving away your rights for nothing, nothing at all, and you keep giving it away.

Stop pointing fingers, look around you and what you’re doing *NOTHING*, yet you’re defending an organization that see you as cattle now, you’re nothing to them, your representatives listen to money, NYPD is militarizing against it’s citizens, women are being attacked from all sides. Please take your head out of your ass for once and stand for what our funding fathers envisioned for this country.

Those Who Sacrifice Liberty For Security Deserve Neither.
– Benjamin Franklin

Mike Jones

FBI…. Fumbling Bunch of Incompetents.
Doug

The FBI for decades has had a policy of NOT sharing information with local law enforcement even when the withholding of that information has jeopordized local law enforcement’s safety. I have seen it time and time again. Only recently has the FBI started to share information with local law enforcement and it has only been done in a very limited way. It’s rather ironic that the FBI now complains about this when they are STILL the biggest offender. Had the alphabet agencies SHARED suspect information prior to 9/11 it possiblycould have been prevented. The FBI still mistakeningly believes they are the tip of the spear when it comes to terrorism investigations, but it is the local departments who actually are and they need to remember this. The NYPD’s detectives are running circles around the FBI in protecting the City from attacks and are doing it for a lot less money.

Bloodless Coup

It helps to know that the Professor that Bathhouse Barry was heaping praise on in the video that was released today was an avid supporter of Louis Farrahkan, the charismatic leader of the Nation of Islam Cult.

http://pjmedia.com/tatler/2012/03/07/a-few-fun-facts-about-professor-derrick-bell-jr/

Context is everything.
The Tin Man

Amen Brother………………
Capt. Howard. E. Battles, Ret.

Doug is right on point. When dealing with local departments, THE FBI has always been BIG ME, little you. After 9/11, they felt they had to reinvent the wheel to fight terrorism within the USA, when actually there were Law Enforcement units already in place, like Drug Task Forces, for example, who were already “close to the ground” and had informants. All it would have taken was a little training on terrorism and they would have been ready to go. In many cases, the Feds did not take advantage of the anger and desire for revenge felt by local officers. They would have worked for FREE.

Chartruce

NYPD just doin they job. If you let the wolves (radical molems) into the chicken house they gonna be eaten KFC and usin the chicken wing bone as a tooth pic
FireTheFeds

Yet another reason to abolish the misguided FBI. They can’t even figure out who the enemy is. We have no need for federal police who’s agenda is so clearly political. Time to clean house.

mezoo

the enemy are chinese communists. yer all idiots. hundreds of nukes and i’ll bet you love walmart.

cj

It is time to get rid of Ward and Mueller. Especially Mueller, he has been there too long. The same applies to him as to our state representatives. Four years is enough. The idea was to serve your country, not live off of it.
Web Mark

WE should have kept the canal and given them New York!
JC71

This would be the same FBI that just removed 1000 pages of training materials that referenced the violent aspects of Islam and the Koran from their traning manuals.

The FBI has been infiltrated by CAIR and the Muslim Brotherhood for several years now. Take what they say with a grain, no, shovel full of salt.
Momofthree

This is exactly what Muzzies want…. rule over America.

notoneofyou

Oh, but looks like it’s what the Jews want,
congrol of New York City
They”ve tried it so many paces inthe world, and been kiicked out,
often the very hard way.

Read history much?LIke it?

Moe

The divider in chief sicking his Gestapo on state and local law enforcement. Wake up sheeple! You could be next.
The Tin Man

NEVER and I do mean NEVER EVER trust a fed……………..

…..and since when have they shared anything with anybody………..
Dennis

Of course the FBI is attacking the NYPD for surveying potential Jihadists to protect us from possible attacks. It’s under Holder’s control, and Holder’s boss is Obama. I mean, what more do we need to know?
moe Tom

Far too much chatter. The terrorists are eating it up.
Matthew Dunnyveg

Do you know what the good thing about the federal government is?

I don’t either, but we’re all paying for it.

TheBeatGoesON

That was both witty and sadly true. And IT don’t come cheap!

Doolittle Bush

The FBI can go pound sand. If their business had been put out there on front street the way NYPD’s has been, it would have had the same effects. The Premier Law Enforcement Agency, otherwise known as the FBI, can’t stand any other agency doing anything that they (FBI) thinks is their mission only. If they were half as competent as NYPD, maybe NYPD wouldn’t need to be doing these surveillance activities.
BarryS

Good. NYC is out of control. Stay in your own damn city.
This is all about control people. Keep you in fear and take your rights away.

NYC= POLICE STATE

Charlie

BarryS=man in need of a long walk off of a short pier……..

Barry bin Inhalin

FBI = DOJ = Holder = OhZer0. Does anyone not get it? Muslims are home free – per Barry of Kenya.
PETE

Now, the FBI is coming out of their hole! Where were they before and after 9/11? They have so much crap before their own door, and should better clean up their act before attacking our NYC Police Department! Stop looking for excuses for your own lousy police work, and keep out of politics!! If the FBI would be half as good as our NYPD, they would have eliminated Organized Crime, International Drug Trafficking, and lately Internet crimes in their own backyard in New Jersey a long time ago. Just look at your ridiculous record and stop bothering Agencies with better, much better police work!

Marc

“and keep out of politics!”! What right do the NYPD have to go out of their Jurisdiction. What the Hell were they doing in Arizona gun shows. Until you have no crime in New York, teep your butts there

PETE

The NYPD went to Arizona BECAUSE most of the guns with which crimes were committed in NYC came from there! This is just good police work. What don’t you understand? That it would be the job of the FBI? That is correct, and it is exactly the point I want to make. The FBI is now playing politics to kiss Christies ass, and to cover up their own inability to do what the NYPD under Kelly is doing for years in NYC: To do good police work!!

r charles

yes and the guns in arizona came from holders fast and furious?

Michael

The NYPD’s jurisdiction is anywhere their investigations takes them. Jurisdictions only matter in the authorization to make an arrest or where the case is prosecuted. However, in the investigation stage there is no such thing as jurisdiction.

Marc

But they have to coordinate with the Local LE. They didn’t do that so they are in violation.

Michael

Coordination between agencies, in this context is a courtesy, not a steadfast rule and certainly not a violation of law.

On most criminal cases coordinating between LE agencies is done. However, based on the ensuing hoopla, it appears NYPD had a good reason to limit the disclosure of their investigative activities.

LE left out of the loop are acting cry babies.

And it’s seems apparent why the Muslim Brother front groups such as CAIR, have their panties in a bunch.

steve fox

Now, the FBI is coming out of their hole! Where were they before and after 9/11? They have so much crap before their own door, and should better clean up their act before attacking our NYC Police Department! Stop looking for excuses for your own lousy police work, and keep out of politics!! If the FBI would be half as good as our NYPD, they would have eliminated Organized Crime, International Drug Trafficking, and lately Internet crimes in their own backyard in New Jersey a long time ago. Just look at your ridiculous record and stop bothering Agencies with better, much better police work!
I sat home all day and played http://scrabblecheat.com and watched the news. It is clear nothing will stop the muslims. Either we monitor them or we leave them alone and hope they cooperate? We can see how much they want to help by arresting the muslims that helped find Osama Bin Laden. Monitoring won’t work because they will just target another city.

The Facts

We are now in the third week of this never ending non-story.
Vik

I remember my daddy used to take a stick and dip it in some dog mess then stick it in my mouth “business end first”
To this day I can’t help but take a taste when I see a fresh “treat” next to the sidewalk
Len

Take the frigging towels off your heads, and you’ll bel left alone, we have the right to defend against terrorists especially those that resemble them, go back to where you came from.
Vik

Hey, Christie the Cow — stick to what you know best. Kentucky Fried Chicken. Ring Dings. Fried Bacon. And Denny’s. And leave the real policing and governing to people who know how to do it here in NYC.

Charlie

Took the words outta my mouth!!
vtto r.

did you read the same article I did?
and don’t come over the river to jersey we don’t need anymore spendaholics.
thank you.
Mark Matis

It would be nice if those doing the policing would bother to honor their oath to the Constitution. But that isn’t about to happen any time soon now, is it?

mr.right

It never ceases to amaze me how day after day week after week they’ll have some victimize homosexual or some poor innocent desert dweller (muzzy) who came to the United States for a better life only to be further victimize by our U.S. Constitution and not allowing this muzzy desert dweller to practice a sharia on his daughter (honor killing) or demanding that she not be photographed for her drivers license but be allowed to wear a burqa.,,,,

mr.right

….Or behead his wife just the other day some Pennsylvania judge dismissed charges on a Islamic man who attacked a man for wearing a Halloween costume that resembled Mohammed. The judge said the Islamic man had every right to attack a man who wore the costume because sharia law takes precedence over American law and because the man believed that Islam was insulted that the Islamic person didn’t break any laws. We better wake-up!

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