Beis Rivkah High School Students Told To Delete Facebook Profiles

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Students at a Jewish high school for girls in Brooklyn have been ordered to delete their Facebook profiles for allegedly violating school policy.

Beis Rivkah High School president Benzion Stock said students signed a contract and knew they weren’t supposed to be on the social networking site.

“In religious communities they don’t want anybody to have the Internet, especially not Facebook,” Stock told 1010 WINS. “They all knew about it before, they were warned about it, they were told about it, they were taught about it and some girls ignored it.”

The ban has apparently been in effect for two years.

Stock said having a Facebook account violates a religious code of modesty.

“It’s not a modest thing for a religious Jewish man or woman to be on,” Stock said.

According to CrownHeights.info, students in the 11th grade with Facebook accounts were taken out of class and told to delete their accounts and pay a $100 fine or face expulsion.

What do you think? Sound off below…

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  1. Cory says:

    well said

  2. Michelle says:

    OMG they are going to grow up to be axe murders or rapists because they didnt have facebook!

    Really? it’s been a rule for two years, they signed agreeing they wouldnt be on it. get over it

  3. Mama Magee says:

    Rules are rules; there will always be a few who think the rules don’t apply to them. Children (and a high school student is a child) must earn their freedoms – usually after years of having to follow RULES. Get over it.

    1. DebS says:

      “and a high school student is a child”

      I made the mistake of referring to my daughter and her friends as “kids” when she was 16. She says, “Mom, we’re not kids, we’re young adults.” Riigghhhttt! lol

  4. Richelle G says:

    narcsissistic..oops
    I am a product of the public school system…lol

  5. Muramasa says:

    I would leave the school and then publicly renounce their idiotic religion and encourage a lot of my schoolmates to do the same thing.
    Should my act of defiance go smoothly, that would prove devastating for the school and it would probably never recover from it.

    1. Richelle G says:

      I respect thier right to religion.
      I respect the fact that they adhere to thier beliefs and expect thier young to adhere as well.
      I am not sure what my beliefs are yet I am still looking, but facebook is an evil vice, I have kids and it has turned them narsisstic. No one really needs to know that much about you but your mate, and family.
      Having them delete it is not harmful to them.
      Maybe more people should. I never had one to begin with.

      1. Fred says:

        Maybe more people should mind their own damn business

        1. Hester says:

          Minding one’s own business would be so much easier if so many people weren’t pouring their business out into the street via Facebook!

      2. mike says:

        your an idiot

        1. SkepticalOne says:

          Perhaps you should learn the difference between your and you’re before you call other people idiots

      3. IgnoranceisBS says:

        How about creating events that people in your community can contribute to? Or what about posting news that is heartwarming? Maybe pictures and fan pages of people helping each other are a bad thing? What about the Arab spring which helped people rise up for their rights?

        I get it, most people don’t use it in this way. But, not everyone is posting “look at me!!” posts either. Learn a bit about what you’re criticizing before you criticize it.

  6. mikey says:

    Any groups can have rules but those rules cannot be in violation of a citizens rights as granted by the both bill of rights and constitution. If you say that the jewish groups can do this then by the same logic muslims in our country should be able to practice sharia law.

    1. Don says:

      What are you talking about Mikey… It is not a public school and both the parents and the kids were all aware of the rules before they signed the contract with the school. They are legally bound by the contract they signed. If the kids don’t like the rules then let them break the rules and get booted out and then watch as their parents are sued and made to pay the full amount owed under the contract. This is what is so wrong with America right now, too many people think they can do what they want when they want… It’s all about teaching the kids discipline and respect, something that is sorely missing in this day and age.

      1. Keith says:

        If the rules are unconstitutional, It does not matter if a person signed a contract or not. It does not matter if its a public or private school. And, it does not matter if it is religious based or not. By law, you can not sigh your Constitutional Rights away.

        Clearly the school can not say what the students can or can not do in their private life, so the school is over reaching their rights to dictate and govern what a student can and can not do when away from school property in a student’s private life.

  7. Hello says:

    Religions are dictatorships without borders. .

    1. usamare says:

      If they have friends outside of the Jewish community, they could well grow up doing business with or even marrying outside of the community. That would be a disaster.

      1. Amtracmarine says:

        They aren’t allowed to have friends outside of their community.

        1. DebS says:

          Not true. I have friends that I have met through work at Jewish owned companies. They are good people and friends.

    2. ME says:

      Amen!
      Amen

    3. Steve says:

      You can argue either side of that statement but the issue is rules. The students are (assumed) minors under control of parents and teachers. In a controlled environment some “rights” have limits. Everyone was aware of the limits but some chose to test the system. That is a natural exercise for most people; they got caught. No big deal until someone makes it a religious issue – which it doesn’t seem to be.

  8. Andrew says:

    If you can’t live by the rules you agreed to, then you should be booted. People on here talking as if facebook is their right, shut up. They signed an agreement. If they want to be on facebook, go to some other school, public schools are free.

    1. Ben says:

      Can children sign a legally enforceable contract?

      1. padinka says:

        No, but if it’s like my daughter’s school then both kids and parents sign the contract that the kid agrees to. Her’s happens to be a no drug policy.

      2. Keith says:

        I think the answer is already in the question there. Of course not.

        Though the argument may be that the parents also signed the contract. Either way, the Constitutional Rights can not be signed away in a contract, so the contract itself is not binding.

        1. FragmentFour says:

          Is there a constitutional guarantee that protects social media access? Legally speaking, I’m afraid the school can do this. I don’t like that much, but I believe it’s true.

          1. Keith says:

            Freedom of Speech, and Freedom of the Press? It does not guarantee that people have to use the social media. But, it does guarantee a persons has the right to use it on their own time if they chose to.

            Granted the school can censor what happens on school property and school functions. But, they do not have the right to censor off of school property, or school functions.

        2. Jay Pea says:

          Constitutional rights can be signed away in a private contract. The bill of rights protects those rights from government infringement, not from a private institution, like say a private school.

          This may be a freedom of speech issue, but the legal question here is, is the child’s freedom of speech right so offended to merit a win over their parent’s fundamental right to raise their children as they see fit?
          The answer is most likely no, since the children aren’t being restrained from speaking, rather their parents are restricting the available vehicles of their communication.

    2. Amtracmarine says:

      If they are under legal age they can’t enter into a contract and I’m sure that if they had a choice they would be happy to go to a normal school.

      1. Muramasa says:

        That’s not a big problem. Althou I was always an excellent student, never grounded and never punished, it wouldn’t be a big problem for me to get expelled from this idiotic school, simply by ridiculing their stupid relgiion, and publicly anouncing my atheism.
        That would force my parents to enroll me in a normal school.

    3. padinka says:

      Exactly Andrew. Facebook is not a right. And policy is set by every school in this nation. Boys can’t have hair longer than their collar in our schools. It was challenged in courts and the school won. You have a right to an education, what you don’t have is a right to an education on your own terms. Schools have a legal right to set and enforce rules and policy.

  9. mike says:

    Seems the school powers to be are blind to the basic rights & laws of America..
    Perhaps the powers to be should return to the countries of their ancestors & leave the American girls alone. before some one takes them to court for justice.

  10. DAVID S says:

    EVERY ORGANIZATION INCLUDING THE ATHEIST RELIGION HAVE RULES AND REGULATIONS TO FOLLOW IF THIS RELIGIOUS SCHOOL FOR YOUNG WOMEN HAVE RULES THEY EITHER FOLLOW THEM OR LEAVE THE SCHOOL BUT SEEMS ALL JEWISH GIRL SCHOOLS ADHERE TO SAME REGULATION AND SOME EVEN AD NO CELL PHONES

    1. Anon says:

      What “atheist” religion?
      That doesn’t even make sense.

      1. Merle says:

        What? you have never heard of a ‘confirmed Atheist?”
        🙂

    2. Anon says:

      We atheist don’t care if you’re on a social networking site or have a cell phone.

    3. Hello says:

      Whats an Atheist religion? Buddhist? Must be since that system does no have a deity.

    4. Hello says:

      if Atheism is a religion, then bald is a hair color

      1. LISA says:

        ^ exactly.

    5. John says:

      That’s why I’m Agnostic. We don’t have any rules…at least I don’t think we do…I’m not really sure…

      1. Morgan says:

        Lol! Classic agnostic ideology. Love it.

      2. Chrissie says:

        Atheism has no rules either… If you are not sure if you have rules or not as an agnostic, maybe you should figure out what you really are.

        Non-Theists have no rules. Which is why 99% of non-theist are GOOD people. They do it all on their own.GASP.

        1. DebS says:

          Chrissie, John’s comment was meant as a joke. “Agnosticism is the view that the truth values of certain claims—especially claims about the existence or non-existence of any deity, but also other religious and metaphysical claims—are unknown or unknowable.”

      3. billydahkid says:

        Are you sure that you don’t thin you do?

  11. JACK M says:

    TRUE WORDS WERE NEVER SAID IN NAM NEVER MEET AN ATHEIST IN A FOX HOLE WE ALL PRAYED TO GOD

    1. Anon says:

      Atheist didn’t say anything because you probably would’ve shot them.

  12. Barry Doucette says:

    cults are dangerous things…

    1. CT Native says:

      Orthodox Judaism is NOT a cult!

      1. superjen says:

        All religion is a cult

  13. Robert Pinkerton says:

    ‘”It’s not a modest thing for a religious Jewish man or woman to be on,” Stock said.’

    This gentile is in full agreement as to myself. This opinion might label me as a mossback or shellback — as if I cared — but I was raised to believe that self-advertising is beneath the dignity of a gentleman. What are “social networking” websites, other than forums for self-advertising?

    1. TP says:

      Bob, I agree with you. I am not a fan of social networking but you and I are hypocrits in that we are posting here. Personally, this is my way of feeling important and thinking my intelligence will alter the ways others think. In reality I know I will not alter anyone elses thinking pattern nor am I any more intelligent than anyone else. So, this is a self-grandixzing ego drive for me and I would be better served in undertsanding that and practicing what thos school is seeking to teach. I’m otta here. Thanks for setting me up. I’m otta here my man!

    2. Keith says:

      Its just another way for us to socialize. Its human nature for us to be social.

      Now why people may socialize can be multyfacet. Self advertising can be one possibility for some people but defiantly not for everyone.

  14. M says:

    Classic – the girls were outed by the headmaster while he was searching Facebook for single women for extracurricular activities. And that would be single women that are NOT conservative/orthodox Jewish, preferably those schooled in the arts of “physical therapy” and moderate hourly billing rates. Maybe $100/hr, so bust 3 students, get 3 hours of fun..>COOL!

    1. GODis says:

      Oh man that’s hitting below the belt. lmfao

  15. mother in ch says:

    Yeah I learned that G-d was called yahweh in social studies class back in public school because the creator of the textbook didn’t know hebrew. How are Jews/Christians/Catholics/Protestants/Muslims blood cults. I have never seen anyone sacrificed for religion- of course plenty of american kids are by the parents ignoring them in pursuit of 24/7 jobs where the parents are handcuffed to their desks (figuratively) while their kids turn into latchkey kids who start acting out because they are ignored and see nothing to live for.and end up joining gangs to have someone to care for them and….. well you know the rest of the story -you read the news. Calling our Creator imaginary- well……anyone who studies the whole creation process of how a person changes from a zygote to a baby can not possibly believe this is all bu chance- sorry darwin….

    1. Anon says:

      Yahweh is a volcano god and you’re delusional.

    2. eziekial says:

      The old testament has multiple references tosacrificing animals to appease G-d, and new testament has christians drinking the blood and flesh of christ.

    3. Weasel says:

      LOL!!!” never seen anyone sacrificed for religion” Are you friggin blind or just stupid……lets start with the first one……Jesus……here is a few more…..JUST ABOUT EVERY MAJOR CONFLICT AND WAR KNOW TO MANKIND!!!!!……lady, you really are the true simple mind of the religious type that I love to make fun of……have a nice day lemming.

    4. Ben says:

      they believe in the sacrament…

  16. butcher99 says:

    so you delete the facebook account under your name say, Joan Smith and start a new one under Johanne Smyth. Silly old farts just are so silly.
    Damn, I am one of those old farts and even I can figure that out. It i like the boss who wants your facebook password. 2 accounts and give the no account boss the blank one.

    1. truebob says:

      I guess the whole ethics thing was on a day you were cutting school, bozo.

      1. IMAWALLY says:

        I’m guessing the whole ethics thing was on a day when these students were cutting school. As they signed a contract with the school then did what they were told not to. Don’t you think?

        1. Amtracmarine says:

          When did contracts signed by minors become legal??

          1. DebS says:

            If it’s anything like the school my daughter went to, it’s signed by both the students and their parents.🙂

  17. fuc FB says:

    oh no , no FB account, good, who needs to know that their “friend” from 20 years ago’s daughter had her Prom. You stupid sheep.

    1. marc says:

      Says the man with no friends.

    2. BahBah says:

      Ahhh…I hear the bleeping sounds out in the facebook pasture proclaiming their wisdom beyond the sheep in the pasture next door. We all reside in some pasture…like it or not.

    3. Guest says:

      I care
      That means their friends daughter is 18
      Giggity Giggity Giggity all right

  18. a says:

    Ironic, that the guy who invented was FB was Jewish😉

    1. Anon says:

      And thankfully is an atheist right now.😀

  19. Billum says:

    If the Facultiy follow the same rules… how will THEY know if the students delete their accounts or not?

    Sounds a tad funny to me.

    I’d walk in .. say I deleted my account.. and defy them to prove I did not. Right in front of me.

    1. truebob says:

      Kicked out, your whole family considered immoral and no one in the community will associate with any of your relatives. Good job wiseguy.

  20. Chris says:

    Education is supposed to prepare one for the “real world”. The ability to understand and effectively use social networks is essential in today’s business world and will be even more important in the near future. Instead of banning FB, there should be a class on FB ethics and its use as a marketing tool for businesses…

    1. cynthia says:

      This is a conservative Jewish school, these girls will mostly remain in that community. In their’ real world’ they won’t need facebook.

      1. Amtracmarine says:

        In their “Real” world they won’t need a computer either.

    2. Keith says:

      Great point.

    3. Keith says:

      I was referring to that was a great point on the teaching ethics and use of marketing tools and businesses.

  21. Erk says:

    And people wonder what inspires antisemitism… Note the $100 cash grab on top of the public humiliation! Oy vey iz mir! I’d hang up my Yarmulke if this ever happened to me or my kid – then again, my kid has a choice. I guess I’m not ultra-conservative!

    1. mother in ch says:

      no cash grab- if they stay off facebook for a year they get their money back- where is the humiliation?

      1. Erk says:

        I didn’t read that in the article. A bond is better than a fine for sure.

    2. PPTG says:

      Correct! You are an American

  22. sean says:

    I don’t have any problem with making them delete their accounts…the rules need to be enforced. I just wonder about the fine. Unless the rules specifically stated that they were to be fined as well, I find that to be malicious.

    1. Keith says:

      There is no question that rules are important. I think the true question is not so much if rules are important, that there are reasons for rules, and rules need to be enforced. I think the question is when do rules over reach their boundaries

      I seems the school is over reaching dictating what a person can or can not do when they are not on school campus. Now if someone was posting nude photos of them self, that could have negative implication on the religious school and the students they have.

      Since that is not the case of improper behavior, and that the school can not make rules that violates peoples rights, the argument that “All” rules need to be enforced is really mute.

  23. Darcy says:

    Several other people have already noted this – but this is a private school that the parents chose. They agreed to the rules of this school and no doubt have paid quite a bit of money for their daughters to attend. If they don’t agree with this rule, then they should choose another school that will allow for more freedom.

    The world is all about rules – plenty of them. You and I follow rules everyday in every aspect of our lives. Without rules there would be chaos. However, we are most fortunate in this country that outside of the rules of law that keep everyone safe, we are free to choose what other rules we do or don’t want to follow. If you don’t like home owners association rules, you don’t live in that community. If you don’t like the rules a certain employer insists on, you find another job.

    In other words, we have freedom, but so do others. They are free to enforce their rules. You are free to choose another school.

    1. Erk says:

      Very well-put.

  24. VY says:

    The girls that want to be on face book will just create profiles with nick names or code names and no pictures. It just drives this underground. And the “Men” who enforce this upon these girls will continue to use face book themselves. Funny you don’t see anything like this for Jewish male high school students. It’s just another way the male power structure inside the orthodox community kepps its control over women alive and well. it’s supposed to “protect” women from being sexual objects, mainly from men who can’t keepp it inside their pants, so they subjugate the women to cover for the men having no self control.

    1. R says:

      There is no male power structure in that community. The boy’s have way stricter guidelines in their schools. I don’t live there anymore nor am I religious but I find it astounding how every “forward-thinking” person in America comes down on religious people. It’s not forward-thinking if you can’t accept other people’s lifestyles. They’re happy and they aren’t hurting anyone. They also don’t care if you have facebook after high-school, in fact most of the teachers do but they don’t feel it is appropriate for impressionable high-school students which while I don’t agree with is their right as a private school.

      1. Cheese Wonton says:

        Nonsense. I used to work for Chabad Lubavitch and the men treat women as poorly as the Saudi’s do. This sort of mysogenist crap has no place in 21st Century America.

        1. mother in ch says:

          garbage- do your research on the saudis- yeah there are some creeps -but in this generation there are creeps all over- but all in all most men are nice and we have a ketubah that non-jews don’t have which means that we have rights. There are NO baby daddies in the crown heights jewish community. In many of the major schools (boys and girls) there are wedding halls- boys are brought up that a bride is something to obtain- our lives revolve around our families. Yes not everyone obtains the ideal but the ideals are there. In our community we have woman doctors, lawyers, accountants, etc. Only monsters who belong in jail beat their wives or kids- yes it happens but it is shunned. and it happens much much less than the secular community. I chose this way of life over 20 years ago and I am happy I did.

          1. Kate says:

            @mother in ch, why are you online? Isn’t it immodest? I’m glad you have “woman doctors,” but please realize that the women in the so-called secular world (why may have their own religious beliefs, but they’re not the same as yours) fought for the rights of all women. So it’s astonishing to see women who agree to be treated as second class, getting out of the way for men on the sidewalk, being subservient, working full-time for a husband who stays home and “studies.”

        2. harold says:

          I am familiar with Chabad Lubavitch and the women seem quite up there in terms of respect and dignity. Either you worked for them as a janitor and had no clue as to what their rituals and customs were about and therefore assumed that the women who have different roles were being treated disrespectfully or you are just shooting from the gut. Lots to argue about over here but not on the fact that these Chabad women are treated like Queens starting from their leader down to their very philosophy which puts them on a high pedestal which explains the extraordinary high number of prestige positions held by their women.

    2. Buggoigle says:

      Men are not allowed to use facebook, either. For the most part, it is not something that is enforced but is rather a matter of self-denial, and most super-religious young adults that I know are conscious of the choice they are making for themselves. These people pretty much avoid the internet altogether, which on the one hand is pretty heavy-handed, but on the other it makes them better equipped people in general. Remember phone books? Remember maps? I think we should all spend a little less time online and more time doing things for ourselves.

  25. Oakspar says:

    The school wants to promote modesty, a longstanding virtue among women that empowers them to be free from social pressures to denegrate themselves as sexual objects.

    Facebook is about self promotion, and does not line up with the virtue of modesty.

    The school has a standing policy, in effect for years, that bans Facebook, and likely other similar social media. The girls signed on to this policy. The parents agreed to the policy by putting their child in this school. There was consent from all involved.

    The girls broke the rule and were punished.

    Nothing at all here makes this unusual. Those arguing that teens should be able to exspress themselves however they want should realize that teens are still children and do not have unlimited rights. Parents have the right and legal obligation to cencer and educate their children. There is no law against putting your beliefs on your children, there is an obligation to do so. If you believe your children should not have any beliefs put on them – that is itself the belief that you are putting on them. Leave other parents to choose superior belief systems.

    To those arguing that homeschool is the only answer to protect your children from this intrusion – realize that this school was the choice of those parents. It is to be expected that if you put your child in a Facebook free school it is because you believe that having your child Facebook free is a virtue – otherwise you would not choose that school.

    After all, there are cheaper options if you want your child to be “like everyone else” and in line with mainstream culture – they are called public schools.

    1. Ellennemm says:

      “If you believe your children should not have any beliefs put on them – that is itself the belief that you are putting on them. Leave other parents to choose superior belief systems.” “Superior”? Really? What an incredibly arrogant thing to say.

    2. Darcy says:

      Your “superior beliefs” apparently didn’t teach you how to spell censor.

    3. marc says:

      My daughter has a facebook and doesn’t “denigrate” herself into a sexual object. What the parents have done, by agreeing to this, they have granted the school their parenting responsibilities. It should be MY decision, whether my daughter has a Facebook page or not, based on MY evaluation of her maturity. And I must continually monitor to ensure she is staying within the bounds of what I consider moral. I wouldn’t expect a school or an educator to do my parenting job for me.

    4. Kate says:

      The cheaper option of public schools (nice put-down, very subtle) is what most people do in this country. In fact, it is where I met people unlike myself while still adhering to my parents’ values. Funny how that can work…that a family can be strong enough to withstand a little outside pressure. And, mainstream culture makes all of the rest possible. We provide the infrastructure for everyone else. We serve in the military, staff the hospitals, run the subways, build the buildings. Try doing that with one little religious group that thinks the rest of the world is “secular” and “immodest.”

  26. Ms Kelly says:

    So the administrators can be on Facebook and the internet monitoring what students and others are doing but no one else can??? Hmmmm sounds like hypocrites.

    1. Darcy says:

      Sounds about right for ancient attitudes.

    2. mother in ch says:

      nope- children are not mature enough to access adult content- sounds right to me!

  27. hbcc says:

    thought this would count as violating a person’s right to free speech??

    1. AMcBride says:

      The government can’t violate your First Amendment rights, but a private institution can make its own rules about what is accepted in their organization and what is not.

    2. mother in ch says:

      since when did kids have free speech- I went to public school and if I did something against the school’s policies (in or out of school) I got to face the music!

      1. Keith says:

        The First Amendment of the Constitution actually gives kids the right of Free Speech.

        Now the mistake that some people may may is that Free Speech is absolute ,when in fact there are limits to Free Speech. Screening fire in a movie theater would be one example of limits. There are also laws against a person slander, defamation,verbal threats of physical harm, public verbal profanity are some other limitations to Free Speech.

        As far as age, there is no age limits to a persons Constitutional Right to free speech.

  28. Susan says:

    The $100.00 fne is probably for his pocket. The parents should fine out where he is putting it.

    1. mother in ch says:

      read above- he is holding it til the end of the year- If they stay off facebook – they get it back- mostly this is the honor code- these are good girls

  29. actually- says:

    actually- all of the girls have deleted their accounts, and most of them are in full agreement with the school policy. at the beginning of each school year there is a “contract” signed by the students that states that they will follow certain key rules, one of them being not having a facebook account. The girls understand that they broke their own word.
    the advantage of a religious private school is that most of them have the maturity to admit that they were wrong.

  30. Ross says:

    What a bunch of idiots…lol. Oh well, it was a good laugh. I like the comment about the world being flat too. That made my day!

  31. Jon Anthony says:

    I’m all for religion in schools – but there has to be a balance. I went to private school for 8 years and we had it jammed down our throat. There are more kids incarcerated, dead, (OR WORSE) that went to my school than you can imagine. The school may have good intentions here, but there wont be a lot of ‘lived happily ever after’ stories.

    1. mother in ch says:

      nope- this school has produced some of the finest young ladies- some of which are grandmothers by now- you have ever seen. They care about the whole child- not just the scholastics – they help kids who are having problems with making friends, etc- not just the IQ but also the EQ-

  32. Kat says:

    I think that the school should not be able to do this, but like the article said it is a private school so they can do what they want. However, I think the $100 fine is a bit much…

  33. schmitthead13 says:

    is this a new way to raise money, this is one of thousands of reasons why i will home school my baby, how is this fair and why do schools get to rule what my child does?

    1. Seraphim0 says:

      The hundred dollars is more than likely to drive home the importance of the rule to the kids. It’s also a privtae school, meaning you pay to send your kids there.

      I always love it when people get on the homeschool high horse. The unfortunate consequence of homeschooling (well, ONE of them), is that kids do not get the social interaction with their peers that they need. Schools help a child mature and grow socially when otherwise they would not.

      I have run into children at a homeschool conference (my fiancee did a presentation at one) that had the most awkward kids. They had no idea of social cues or the like. Additionally, what in the heck is a parent doing when an 8 year old has yet to learn to read because he was homeschooled? The latter is utterly true. An 8 year old child was given a puppet pamphlet and had no idea how to read.

  34. crabman says:

    so much for open minds —– so the world is still flat too—

  35. BJB says:

    I do not agree with banning religion but yes they all could be considered a cult
    cult/kəlt/Noun: 1.A system of religious veneration and devotion directed toward a particular figure or object.
    2.A relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister.

    1. mother in ch says:

      how can they (we) be considered a cult? If it is according to your definition- 1. a system of religious veneration directed towards a particular figure or object- well then it goes against your second definition 2- a relatively small group of people having religious beliefs or practices regarded by others as strange or sinister. Because the majority of the world practices some worship of a higher power AND the majority of the world regards those who don’t venerate their particular higher power as strange or sinister- see the spanish inquisition see the romans throwing the christians to the lions see etc etc etc etc …so according to your own definition we can’t be a cult (besides our own particular object of veneration isn’t considered a figure as Judaism doesn’t believe in a middle man and our higher power is non-corporal (does not have a body).

  36. Tony says:

    private institutions can do whatever they want within the law…

    1. Clay Vollers says:

      “within the law” would be the key phrase. This “contract” is no more valid than anything else that is a blatant violation of the 1st amendmant of the Constitution of this country. This country is ruled by law, not religious beliefs. The Jews want their “exceptions”, the Catholics want their “exceptions”, the Mornans want their “exceptions”, and the Muslims want their “exceptions” too. But unless we’re willing too wrap the women from head to toe, outlaw birth control, allow multiple wives, and stone anyone who is different than ourselves we might want to stop relying on the superstitions of ignorant Bronze Age nomads and follow the laws of this country.

      1. mother in ch says:

        when is it our RIGHT to have birth control? I can’t pick up any medicine I want off the pharmacy shelves no matter how much money I have. Sorry Jews don’t have multiple wives and to my knowledge Catholics do not either. The only stoning I have seen around here is by ignorant punks against white’ies or hunkies and the only reason I saw it is because it was my car that got stoned. Thank G-d those kids had rotten aim. There is no law in the country that says all children must have access to all social media out there. In fact- to my knowledge- there are laws that say that there are many sites on the internet that are only for certain age groups.

      2. Ben says:

        The courts ruled you can’t sign away your right to free speech… look it up.
        Also, children can’t sign contract enforceable by law.

    2. PPTG says:

      Yea! If they ask them to bend over they will how stupid is that FB is the Devil!!! Haha!!

  37. Mike says:

    This is why I disagree with private schools… they believe they can do anything they want to, even if it violates a human’s basic rights. If facebook enables the pursuit of happiness, then who cares? I have seen plenty of chruches (including JEWISH) on facebook! If they can have a facebook page for a church, why can’t these girls?

    1. dougtawa says:

      Yes, the constitution is perfectly clear on this… You have the right to bear arms and have a Facebook account.

    2. S says:

      So what if you disagree with the rules that a particular private school chooses to enforce? You, or your children, are not forced to attend private schools.

      I hope that you aren’t suggesting that all students should be forced to attend public schools and learn whatever values the government chooses. Now that would be a violation of basic human rights.

  38. Tj says:

    This is just pathetic! Religion shouldn’t factor in denying the students the right to put whatever they want because the USA Constitution says so. Anyone for region is just plain wrong. By the way, anyone can counter this by putting a fake name through Facebook. Stupid principal!

    1. S says:

      These students agreed to forgo Facebook in order to attend Beis Rivkah, a private school. The Constitution guarantees free speech…not free speech without ramifications or consequences.

      Example: if you work in a waitress as a restaurant, I suspect that you would be fired if you went into work and called your employer names.

  39. objetd'pfft says:

    …are these students citizens of the USA or property of a religious organization? An organization can always make whatever rules they want but that does not mean they are not stupid rules. The rule should be challenged, and reason and logic should prevail.

  40. Akr says:

    I’m not jewish…and I agree with policy and the religous concept. they should completely get ride of Facebook its causing more problems then solution. Mankind came this far and I think we can live without our friends knowing what we are doing everyday.Privacy.Lots of people don’t read fine print.

    1. schmitthead13 says:

      I dont think they should be allowed to tell someone elses child to what they have to do., BUT i do think your so very right they should do away with this facebook altogether, its evil and is destroying people, I dont want to know what my friends are doing every single day, what ever happend to a simple phn call?…someone at work asked me what people did before the interet, I said they called or wrote a letter.

      1. Seraphim0 says:

        Another close minded comment. I have a facebook account. I use it to keep in touch with family I would not otherwise see across the country, nor was I able to contact previously.

        People like you need to realize that it’s used for much more than just ‘updating every day.’ I also use it to keep in touch with people, and meet new people, within my profession and hobbies.

        1. RML says:

          Agree with Seraphim, How is facebook evil? That statement is ridiculous. If it’s not for you, that’s your choice. I too use it to keep in touch with family all over the globe that other wise I would not be able to.

  41. Anti_Religion Not Anti_GOD says:

    Religious freaks ! A religious freak is a religious freak whether they’re Jewish, Muslim, Christian. Just plain mindless freaks !

    1. mother in ch says:

      how can you believe in G-d without believing in religion? Weren’t you ever taught that there are no free lunches in this world? G-d just put you on this planet- prepared the planet so that it would have what to furfill your needs. and then decided to go for a trip to the restaurant at the end of the universe?! No G-d has an entire list of what He wants for us- we are just lucky that it is in our best interests to follow that list.- He created us so He knows what is best for us better than we do- besides He knows what will happen after we exit this life….
      /

      1. Muramasa says:

        Why should I believe in God anyway?

      2. mikey says:

        I do not believe in god. I do not need the threat of gods anger to make me live my life right. I also do not need it to justify me being here. Organized religion needs to die and never come back. The world will be a much better place with out. Think how many wars have been fought over it. Gods and religion both created by man for man.

  42. Joker Jones says:

    Yes, the last thing you want is High School Students having freedom to express themselves and communicate their ideas freely without censorship by their school. Some of them might figure out what a sham organized relifion is.

  43. Maria says:

    Im wondering how the school found out about the accounts.. Wouldn’t someone from the school have to have an account as well in order to search for these kids? Anyhow, if its a rule and they signed a contract then they shouldn’t have opened an account.

  44. its good to know says:

    I guess the students tested the boundaries and failed. A good lesson for all.

  45. Sara says:

    That school president seems like a real leader. He is standing firmly behind the schools policy and has no problem explaining it to a media outlet.
    Mr. Stock, I hope you always stand firm in your moral convictions in the face of public scrutiny.

  46. Dina says:

    If you don’t like the rules, choose a different school.

    1. Ben says:

      Rules don’t trump rights.

      1. sbast18 says:

        Absolutely Ben. The kids have a right to use whichever resource they choose – and the school has the right to let them vacate and report to a public institution because…they have rights too🙂

  47. Mushky says:

    It is a private school. They can make whatever rules they want.

    The students all sign a contract at the beginning of each school year.

    Schools enforce rules.

    It’s as simple as that.

    1. Ben says:

      Rules don’t trump rights, even simpler.

  48. The Facts says:

    Private schools are free to do as they please in this area. Those who are unable to follow simple rules can avail themselves the services of the public education system.

    1. Yea because Tenakc/Tanach says that no Jew can use facebook… how funny is this.

    2. achasurius says:

      no one is asking how the school found out ??? didi they go on facebook themselves and search for the students ? violating their own policy ?

      1. mother in ch says:

        how could the school NOT find out?!! Anyone on facebook gets suggested people based on common interests and you know what….they girls have many of the same interests as many of the adults….the policy wasn’t against adults having facebook but against kids having it. Kids can’t drink legally til 21- fight that as unconstitutional- after all every 14 year old should have the right to buy booze!

    3. jae says:

      What Nazis.

      1. dougtawa says:

        Pretty ironic… Calling Jews Nazis…

        1. DAVID S says:

          LOL

    4. tarecole says:

      This is exactly why ALL organized religion is crap. We don’t need anybody to tell us they know what is right or wrong. Just ask yourself. If you simply live a life of being good, then you are better than any religion can ever possibly be. Get Good America. God is Good not religious!

    5. gmoney says:

      Oy Vey!

    6. GrizzlyBear says:

      Yes, rules are rules and we need to follow them but try to change the ones we don’t agree with. In this case I 100% agree with the students…the abolishment of Facebook should change. Modest or boastful behavior is not embedded in the tool used, it is in how we use it. Being a slight Facebook user,there should be no reason why these students couldn’t use Facebook in a modest manner. The problem here is the rule makers. They simply do not want to take the time to devise the rules/guidelines for the students to follow nor do they want to have to worry about trying to police them. So instead they take away the liberty!

      This is what happens with many things. The ultimate fault is those following the rules who do not stand up for their rights and liberties when they feel they are wrong.

    7. Richard says:

      Try not following the rules of FaceBook and see what happens !!

  49. Herschel Haircutsein says:

    Its not easy running a cult like religion!

    1. David says:

      What cult? There is none.

    2. Jake says:

      Cult? Judaism is a religion, not a cult. Go back to school Herschel.

    3. The hard truth facts says:

      all religion are cults. they should be abolish and banned!!!

      1. JCS74sailor says:

        That sounds like a communist view to me!

      2. mother in ch says:

        The hard true facts

        there aint no atheists in a foxhole!!!!!!!!!!! My dad doesn’t believe in religion but when his life was in danger I got the call to pray for him!!!!!! (I was quoting a popular phrase I know two negatives mean a positive- but this means that when your life is in danger all of a sudden you realize who your Creator is and who has been watching your back all this time)

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