Biden Discusses 2016 Plans, Death Of Son In Emotional 'Late Show' Interview
NEW YORK (CBSNewYork/AP) -- In an emotional interview that cast a deep pall over his deliberations about the 2016 race for the White House, Vice President Joe Biden said he is overwhelmed at times by his son's death and unconvinced he could commit fully to being president,
Asked about his 2016 decision on CBS' "The Late Show with Stephen Colbert," Biden said Thursday he'd be lying if he said he knew he was prepared to run following Beau Biden's death in May due to brain cancer.
"My dad had an expression. He said 'you know you're a success as a parent when you look at your child, and they know he was better than you.' I was a hell of a success, but my son was better than me," Biden said.
With a level of candor seen rarely in politics, the vice president recalled a breakdown of his emotions during a recent visit to a Colorado military base when a well-wisher yelled out the name of his son and referenced his decorated military service in Iraq.
"All of a sudden, I lost it," Biden said. "How could you ... that's not ... I shouldn't be saying this: You can't do that."
Biden's much-anticipated appearance on "The Late Show" was expected to take on a light and comedic tone, but instead veered almost immediately into raw and personal territory. He said White House hopefuls must be able to promise voters they can commit their whole heart, soul, energy and passion, and said, "I'd be lying if I said that I knew I was there."
"Nobody has a right, in my view, to seek that office unless they're willing to give it 110 percent of who they are. And I am, as I said, I'm optimistic, I'm positive about where we're going," Biden told Colbert. "But I find myself -- you understand it -- sometimes it just overwhelms you."
Biden had previously expressed doubts about whether he and his family have the emotional energy to run. Still, his blunt description of his own emotional frailty on Thursday marked the strongest indication yet that he may be leaning against running for the Democratic nomination.
Since his son's death, Biden has frequently peppered his speeches with references to Beau and the impressive résumé he developed in his 46 years. Yet the vice president went further in the interview, describing in detail conversations he had with Beau in the months before his death at a military hospital.
"He said, 'Dad, sit down, I want to talk to you.' He said, 'Dad, I know how much you love me,"' Biden recalled. "'Promise me you'll be all right, because no matter what happens, I'm going to be all right.'"
If Biden seemed unusually willing to bare his soul, it may have been due to his host. Colbert, the longtime Comedy Central star who this week took over David Letterman's former role, lost his father and two brothers in a plane crash as a child, CBS2's Dick Brennan reported. Biden invoked Colbert's losses to make a point about how "there are so many other people going through this."
"I feel self-conscious talking about it," Biden said, looking down solemnly and occasionally wringing his hands.
Decades ago, at the start of his political career, Biden lost his wife and infant daughter in a car crash that also injured Beau and his other son, Hunter. Asked by Colbert how he perseveres, Biden cited his Catholic faith and his determination to simply keep moving.
"I feel like I was letting down Beau, letting down my parents, letting down my family, if I didn't just get up," Biden said, his voice trailing off at points. "You've just got to get up."
When the show returned from a commercial, the crowd was chanting "Joe! Joe! Joe!"
"Be careful what you wish for," Biden quipped.
Colbert joked with Biden about being vice president.
"I want to give your office the respect it deserves," Colbert said. "How much is that?"
In reply, Biden held up his thumb and forefinger about an inch apart.
"People make jokes about the office all the time," Colbert said.
"They should!" Biden replied. "There's no inherent power in the vice presidency."
He said, however, that much had to do with the relationship with the president.
For his part, Colbert was unabashed in his support for a Biden campaign, praising him effusively for showing Americans "the real Joe Biden" and adding, "I think we'd all be very happy if you did run."
Biden attributed his current star status in the Democratic Party to the fact that he never felt compelled to modulate what he says.
"If you can't state why you want the job, then there's a lot more lucrative opportunities other places," he said.
Biden's public meditation on the 2016 race capped a hectic day of speeches and events in New York, where he focused on two issues that have been central to his political career for decades: workers' rights and violence against women. He spent part of the day at a fundraiser for Senate Democrats.
The vice president once set an end-of-summer deadline to decide whether to run, but that outlook was reshuffled after his son, the former Delaware attorney general, died. In early August, Biden let it be known that he was actively considering a run. More recently, Biden's aides have said any announcement would likely slip into late September or early October, or possibly even later.
The intense interest stirred up by the prospect of Biden running has essentially frozen the Democratic primary campaign, as Hillary Rodham Clinton and the other candidates wait to see whether they'll face another formidable contender. Recent national polls have suggested Biden could be competitive against the Republican candidates, and that he's more popular within his own party than Clinton in key primary states.
Funny or not, the late-night appearance put Biden on the same stage to which 2016 presidential candidates have been flocking. Since Colbert's debut this week, he's already snagged an interview with GOP contender Jeb Bush and booked future appearances with candidates Donald Trump and Ted Cruz. Clinton will try out her comedy chops next week on NBC's "The Tonight Show Starring Jimmy Fallon."
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