Indictment Against Levi Aron Imminent In Leiby Kletzky Murder Case

NEW YORK (CBSNewYork) — Key clues from the Medical Examiner’s report are paving the way for murder charges against Levi Aron following days of collecting and cataloguing piece of evidence, CBS 2’s Sean Hennessey reported.

It has been a week since the dismembered body of 8-year-old Leiby Kletzky was found.  Tuesday evening, the ME turned over his report to Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes’ office.  An indictment in the case is expected to come as soon as Wednesday.

Earlier Tuesday, Hynes paid his respects to Kletzky’s family at their Borough Park home.

PHOTOS: Death Of 8-Year-Old Leiby Kletzky | A Community In Mourning

CBS 2 learned that information from the Medical Examiner included clinical information about the cause of the little boy’s death and the ME’s opinion of when that murder may have occurred.

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Brooklyn District Attorney Charles Hynes Speaks With Pablo Guzman. (credit: CBS 2)

Hynes has promised to bring justice to Kletzky’s memory and told the boy’s grieving parents and sister that he is going to work his hardest to make sure the case against Leiby’s accused killer is tight and thorough.

WCBS 880’s Paul Murnane In Kensington, Brooklyn

“There will be several steps in this case before he goes to trial,” Hynes said. “We are gathering, with the police, every piece of forensic evidence necessary to support our case.”

1010 WINS’ Juliet Papa reports: A Very Careful Process

Aron is being held in a psychiatric ward at Bellevue Hospital under tight security. His attorneys met with him for about two and a half hours and they said their focus is on their client’s mental state.  They are also seemingly already laying the groundwork for an insanity defense.

“All we can say at this time without going into specifics upon talking to him for quite some time is that there’s a severe diminished capacity,” said Gerard Marrone, one of Aron’s defense attorneys.

Marrone said his client still hears voices, and is trying to use loud music to drown them out.

At Aron’s house in Kensington, Brooklyn where the brutal murder and butchering allegedly occurred, investigators have been removing evidence, including a cat that was brought out on Tuesday afternoon.

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Police remove cat from home of Levi Aron. (credit: CBS 2)

Asked why crime scene detectives were still at Aron’s home, Hynes said “this is a a very, very careful process.”

“If you look at cases that have happened recently, if these kind of cases are rushed, mistakes are made,” Hynes said.

Police are investigating whether Aron may be connected to any other cases of child abuse, or worse, by checking his DNA against evidence gathered at crime scenes around the country.

At the home of Leiby’s family in Borough Park, visitors from around the region and nation are coming to pay their respects.

A single, heartbroken mourner wept quietly outside the Kletzky home Tuesday for the murdered little boy and his mother’s unimaginable loss.

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Dapne Zerbovley mourns outside the Kletzky home (credit: CBS 2)

‘This should have never been. She should have never been stripped of her son,” Dapne Zerbovley, of Great Neck, told CBS 2’s Scott Rapoport.

Zerbovley said that she doesn’t know the Kletzky family, but knew she had to come.  She said she wished that God would give the boy’s mother the “strength to survive this horrifying, horrifying ordeal.”

Joe Gross has known the victim’s father, Nachman, since their boyhood and says the dad’s pain is immeasurable.

“It’s like a knife in the heart,” Gross said. “Very, very, very emotional about it. Distraught.”

How credible does an insanity defense sound to you? Sound off in our comments section below…


One Comment

  1. IgnoranteElephante says:

    Rodin’s problem is he reads these grandiose passages from history books or more likely they are read to him or are audio books, but he does not comprehend the meaning of them. It would be nice if he could respond to mine or anyone else’s questions, but he can’t because his small brain can’t comprehend what he is actually writing.

    Yes, Rodin, we have been down this road before when you were going on your anti cop diatribe, and thought for sure the cops would be found guilty of raping that girl, despite the lack of evidence. There, as here, I was right. Thus, I comprehend what you right and respond to all of your questions, but what I don’t get is the substance you intend to convey. You point out that the Dutch in the Golden Age banned outward expression of religion and had a near utopian society. What you omit is the causal connection between the religion ban and the utopia. Since we know from past dealings you are a connoisseur Latin, look up the following “Post hoc; ergo propter hoc.”

    One last thing, your rabid anti religious and anti God fanaticism is more fervent than most religious zealots. What separates your deeply seeded beliefs from theirs? In other words, you are practicing an anti religion, religion. If you are allowed to continually preach your distain for faith and God, should not everyone else be allowed to show their support for them. The converse also holds true. If outward religious expression is banned, like in the Golden Ages Dutch, then, so too, should your anti religious and anti God beliefs.

    1. Rodin says:

      I have no problem. YOUR problem is people like me doubt, question, THINK, while you follow.

      You stop peddling your gods, you’ll never hear from the likes of me again.

      1. IgnoranteElephante says:

        You are incapable of holding a thought. That is why you can’t show me a connection between lack of religion and utopia. You’re not a follower? You just proposed to FOLLOW the Golden Age Dutch! You like zealotry all right, as long as it is your own.

        I hope I will never hear from you again, but I won’t hold my breath.

      2. Rodin says:

        You’re incapable of surpassing and escaping the bounds of dogma. You’re right not to hold your breath. You wish you could silence inquiry! But why give ignorance a pass? YOU might be cattle but we are not sheep and, therefore, need no shepherd.

        “People seem to be offended by facts, or what used to be called truth.”
        – RANCIS BACON
        (1909 – 1992)
        Irish born British artist

        ‘nough said!

    2. IgnoranteElephante says:

      You’re the one who said you were leaving, not me. I like you here. There’s always someone to make a fool of. It is like you’re a twelve year old with a encyclopedia of quotes. You say things from it but have no idea what any of it means.

      Francis, not Rancis, Bacon used the imagery of the crucifix heavily in his writings. I doubt He was also known to fancy little boys. This is the second time that you have brought up people are cultures that were known pedophiles. Whatever you are trying to tell us, please stop. Perhaps, you meant to quote John Adams who said “Facts are stubborn things . . .” at eh Boston Massacre trials in 1770.

      1. Rodin says:

        Sorry about the typo. Spellcheck didn’t catch it. It was ‘cut and paste’ one letter short.

        I may be a “twelve year old with aN encyclopedia of quotes” but a very well-read 66-year-old 12-year-old and the ‘encyclopedia’ is my own, what I’ve gleaned over the years, counselor,

        I never said I was leaving. Wishful thinking? I’m having a blast! What I said is “You stop peddling your gods, you’ll never hear from the likes of me again.” READ AGAIN. Stop proselytizing every chance you get and I will do in kind.

      2. Rodin says:

        Point of information: Francis Bacon the artist, had you bothered to check the dates. And he wasn’t into “little boys” but just about everything and anything else.

        “I believe in nothing. You are born, you die and that’s it.” ~ FRANCIS BACON (the same one I quoted before)

        He used the imagery of the crucifixion too,

      3. Rodin says:

        Re: John Adams:

        “The United States is not a Christian nation any more than it is a Jewish or a Mohammedan nation.”

        “I shall have liberty to think for myself without molesting others or being molested myself.”

        “Let the human mind loose. It must be loose. It will be loose. Superstition and dogmatism cannot confine it.”
        ~ JOHN ADAMS

        Check out Adams, listed alphabetically.
        Then check Washington, Jefferson and Lincoln … and keep going.

  2. Zaide says:

    I think that saying anything even remotely anti-Semetic or offensive to us should be a crime. As the chosen people, we do not have to tolerate this questioning from outsiders and mongrols. We run the country and especially the city. We should never be questioned, let alone insulted. This is a complete Holocaust.

    I proposed “Lieby’s Law” include a provision making it a crime for any non Jew to question, insult, or say somethiing anti-Semmitic to a Jew.

    1. Bubbys says:

      There is actually a law about hate crimes, so if you were saying these kinds of things in public, directly to a Jew, it would be considered a crime, and if I would say it about anyone different from me, it would be the same.

      1. IgnoranteElephante says:

        Well, Bubbys, looks like the pot called the kettle black. Ignorant you are. One of the most cherished rights in this country is the freedom of speech. Thus, you can say anti Semitic things directly to a Jew. As long as you refrain from threatening anyone, the Constitution protects speech, no matter how repulsive you may find its content. In fact, the reason the first amendment is there is to protect speech people find offensive. Speech that everybody likes does not need protection because no one is looking to surpress it.

        You should stop studying religion, and begin studying civics. Afterall, this is America.

      2. Rodin says:

        @ Bubbys
        “… if you were saying these kinds of things in public, directly to a Jew, it would be considered a crime.”

        Wrong! Speech, even hateful speech is no crime.

        The New York Times
        ‘Even Hurtful Speech’
        Published: March 2, 2011

        @ Zaide

        BTW, it’s mongr-E-ls, not mongr-O-ls.

    2. Rodin says:

      ” As the chosen people ….” Hence the problem.

  3. IgnoranteElephante says:

    I agree with Bubby’s comment about us being unfairly persecuted because we are perceived as powerful.

    We are not, and are strapped for cash just like other New Yorkers. I own six nursing homes and 4 office buildings in Manhattan. When I am not tending to my equitable holdings, I cut and sell diamonds on the side. After the staff of my buildings and nursing homes are paid, and overhead and lawsuits are taken into account, I barely take in 3.5 million a year. Now, with 16 children, six of whom are in Yeshiva, and 5 of whom are in medical school, I can barely ends meet.

    This year we had to scale back on trips to Israel. Now we only go three times a year, not four. My wife’s designer dress budget was cut in half, and I told her she can only buy three $6000 dollar wigs this year, and not 11. With religious prohibitions requiring her to wear longer skirts and long sleeves, she has to buy two dresses that are combined into one dress that is religiously acceptable. I worry that with the price of Matzos going up, I might not even be able to have lavish Sabbath dinners.

    My wife, who is the director of an obstetrics department at a local hospital recently had to take on a second job as board of director of a Fortune 500 company.

    It certainly is not easy.

    1. Bubbys says:

      ignorant, you certainly fit your name. I will not even bother to reply to that sarcastic comment which appears to be heavily influenced by The Protocols of the Elders of Zion.

      1. IgnoranteElephante says:

        Protocols? What Protocols? Is there some Jewish plan to take over the world that we should know about?

        How dare you tell Zaide that it is illegal to be anti Semitic. Don’t you take credit, as a Jew, for being at the forefront of civil rights and liberties, and you go counsel someone that certain non threatening speech is illegal?

    2. Bubbys says:

      Unlike you, I have one job. I teach in the NYC public school system, and I teach children of all races. To me they are children, period, and I treat them as I would want my own to be treated. Teachers do not get paid much. My husband is a teacher and has two additional jobs besides. Obviously we are not eligible for gov’t entitlements, and we do struggle to make ends meet, just like the average “middle class” person, in addition to having to pay tuition, which is of course our choice, but benefits the children who attend my local public school. My real estate taxes go to pay for their education. I am happy to do it.
      My friends are mostly just like me. Are there people who abuse the system? Sure there are. But I assure you, people like you would find nasty and bigoted things to say even if everyone in my community was perfect. Which is why I will not even bother responding any more.

      1. IgnoranteElephante says:

        I have a job. I am a lawyer. I never accused you of bilking the system, just of claiming poverty while you are sitting on mountains of gold. Please do not teach your children about hate crimes because you are wrong. In order for there to be a hate crime, there needs to be a crime. Pure, non threatening speech is not illegal.

        When you talk about the rich Jewish people that donate to charity, be honest with your fellow posters.

        They donate to Jewish causes and to send Jewish kids to Israel. They don’t donate to any non Jewish chariities. Let’s face the facts here. Anyone says anything you don’t like and right away, they are an anti Semite, jealous, or ignorant. These are old and ineffective.

  4. Bubbys says:

    I am horrified by the outright anti semitic comments so prevalent on this page.
    On a different note, I am absolutely certain that NO parent in the city would be charged for child neglect because they allowed a child to walk home alone from school. Many non-Jewish parents do the same, though personally, I would have my child walk with a friend or two, and educate him about safety.
    Secondly, I am aware of plenty of Hasidic parents who were charged or questioned re: child abuse or neglect when they took their children to the e/r to have an injury treated, or if they had a 12 year old babysit their children )14 is the legal age. Jews are not immune to the legal system. Yes, their is a problem with many Chasidic Jews being wary of reporting to police. However, a large proportion of parents and people in the community have no compunction about calling the police. When you paint a community with a broad brush you are being bigoted and racist.
    If this community gets a good NYPD response, is because we are exceptionally organized and we are aggressive in trying to get resources for our community. There is nothing wrong with that. We are lucky to have dedicated leaders who work on that, and political and law enforcement people who respond.
    It would behoove any community to do the same

    1. Bubbys says:

      As for comments about Jews using money to get what they want. That is a classic anti semitic comment. I can assure you that most Chassidic people struggle to make ends meet, and have greater expenses because of their religious beliefs. They have to pay tuition for day schools, kosher food is more expensive, large families mean more money. There is a very strong commitment to charity in our community, and the rich people in our community give a tremendous amount of charity every day, to individuals and organizations, and I know it is usually charity that they cannot deduct from their taxes, because it is given in cash to private people. And our real estate taxes go to pay for your child’s public school education, while we pay for our children’s education out of our own pockets.

      1. saltine says:

        You seem to be completely forgetting the fact that every Hassidic family gets the highest amount possible for Food Stamps, Section 8 and Medicaid. Funny how the very same rabbi signs their paychecks, is their landlord and signs their birth certificates. funny how they all make the EXACT amount needed to get the MAXIMUM amount of FOOD STAMPS AND WELFARE. Yeah! The jig is up. We all know what they do. We all know now how they send “reps” to Food Stamp offices because the thousands of families are just too damn busy to come in themselves. they don’t wish to “mingle” with the poor black people who have to give them these illegally gotten funds. We all know how they send half their kids to Israel and conveniently ALWAYS forget to take them off the FOOD STAMP rolls. We all know! Nothing but generations of parasites. So much inbreeding. so much raping of boys and little girls. This family sent this kid to “pay” this guy for services. With what? His body?! Probably!

      2. IgnoranteElephante says:

        You left out that the community’s rich only give to Jewish charities. For a group that touts itself as being on the forefront of civil rights, arm in arm with labor, there is sure a lot of exclusion.

        Exclusive (and illegal) police force.
        Exclusive ambulance service.
        Exclusive lock smith.
        Exclusive industries where non Jews are only allowed to do the menial labor that Jews don’t want to do.
        Exclusive community.
        Exclusive court system.
        Exclusive transportation system.
        Forbidding intermarriage.
        Forbidding social integration.
        Forbidding outside news media.

    2. moe says:

      I must respectfully disagree with your contention that there are anti-semitic comments on this board. There may be comments based on a person’s observations or perceptions but that does not make them anti-semitic.

      Let’s face it. There are people within the Jewish community who feel that because they are Jewish, they are special and above everybody else who is not Jewish. This is proven by the quotes from within the community that news organizations have recorded. One might argue that racism and elitism can be found within the Jewish community and not the other way around.

      Just saying.

      1. Bubbys says:

        Moe, I think racism and bigotry is found in all communities. This does not excuse anyone when they engage in it.
        The difference between your comment and other comments here is this “there are people within the Jewish community who do so and so”. You did not say “they all” or “Hasidic Jews as a whole”. It is valid to say that there are many Hasidic people who do things that are wrong, and I myself am critical of those people. The words “they all” are usually a sign that a comment is coming from a bigoted person.

  5. WHO COULD THEY BE? says:

    Ignorante, and who may I ask are you referring to?

  6. Barre Flynn says:

    This man is profoundly evil not mental. However, our society and judicial system has no regard for profound evil so they call him insane because people just are not evil. So my best bet is that he will sit in a nut house for the rest of his life and the evil that he is and did will be disregarded or misrepresented.

  7. A mom says:

    Leiby is little boy like your son or my son, Leiby’s family is like any other hardworking family like yours or mine…That’s why Leiby’s tragic end feels like it happened in my family!
    I am not Jewish but it does not matter! What does matter to me is how scared the little boy must have been in his last 2 days on this earth, how he must have thought about all things he loved and what a tragic end came to this little, innocent life…….Children are considered a form of God in my religion and I cry that God did not protect his own little angel and he had to endure so much at such an age! I feel for Leiby’s mother, who may never forgive herself for letting him walk alone……This grief goes beyond religion, race, geography and language…….The only thing I want to do is pray to my Gods that Leiby is in heaven and will never have to come back to this lowly human life again!

    1. Bubbys says:

      Thank you, A Mom. The most despicable thing about many comments on this page, is that people are jumping on this very human tragedy, that can happen to anyone, to air their biases and bigotry in re: the Chassidic community and Jews in general. Shame on you who do that.

  8. kristinalee says:

    are you deaf or blind or plain stupid? the reports said they were a simple family living in a 2 modest bedroom apartment with 5 children, and the reports said they were an average family in the neighborhood.

  9. IE Hata says:

    Yes. When are you going to S T F U ?


      ie hata …. WHY SHOULD HE STFU? Everyone has freedom of speech even you. The last time I check this was or is America NOT Israel or any other country..

  10. Ima Toonces says:

    scarier than the murder, He met his wife on j-date! Jews will have to switch to ashley madison or e-harmony!

  11. Very conservative says:

    Liberalism is a mental disorder.

  12. Grele says:

    Leiby is in heaven now.

    1. Rodin says:

      Leiby is dead. Some consolation, fairy tales!

      Keep your faiths out f my face!!!

  13. Tomy is a Loser says:

    And you’re an embarrassment to the human race. Try learning how to spell and conjugate a sentence before brain-farting all over this website.

  14. s l says:

    its a shame to say to charge the parents, even you woudn’t think of this in a neighberhood that is safe and something like this never happens

  15. Natalie says:

    You would HAVE to be insane to do something like this but that doesn’t mean he didn’t realize that what he did was wrong. He knew it was wrong because he admitted to panicking when he saw the community frantically searching for the boy. If he didn’t know it was wrong he wouldn’t have “panicked”. I’m SICK of people hiding behind the insanity defense and justice never comes for their victims and the families. Enough is enough already.

  16. KLSD says:

    Very good work by the NYPD I just which they can do this kind of work for every crime that take place in the city instead of just for a few,NYPD came out in force and as far as I am concern it,s because this kid was JEWISH and that,s why its it shame,but otherwise good job NYPD.

    1. Adam West says:

      I see it a bit differently, I don’t think the NYPD came out because he was Jewish. They came out because the community put together thousands of volunteers and along with that there was pressure put on the NYPD to get involved earlier than they would normally for a missing person.

      If people put their local politicians to work right away in these situations they would also see the NYPD response, unfortunately when you call 911 alone nothing happens.

      1. NOT KOSHER ENOUGH says:


        You’re actually telling the truth but what you’re saying or telling us to do will NOT work, because is been tried before and we were NOT KOSHER enough nor were we RICH enough to pay of out politicians!!

      2. mak says:

        There does seem to be two sets of rules. One set is for us poor schlubs who have to work through ‘normal’ channels and hope for the best and the other is reserved for ‘special’ religious groups who have politicians on their side.

        It is getting rather nauseating to continually hear how ‘special’ this group believes they are and because they are so special, they can thumb their collective noses at the laws we all have to follow.

    2. Tomy says:

      blacks dont stick togeether and shiest each other….

      they can learn from the jews sticking together,,,they help each other….

      something u can say about minorities bro

      1. Lets stick toguether says:

        Of course they do, not individuality but in large professional groups.. There are hundreds of BLACK professional groups every where who are looking out for the well fare of all blacks…I don’t see as many for Hispanics…But blacks do stick together but NOT like the Jews.

  17. THEKLAW says:

    The people who are insane are the ones from the neghborhood watch group that decided to wait 2 hours to notify police of a missing child. There is no excuse for not notifying police right away when there is a missing child. Who ever made this decision has blood on his hands. I hope he has been relieved of any responsibillity for any kids including his own. Where is the public outcry.

    1. Adam West says:

      Missing cases are usually not looked at and a report is not taken usually for 24 hours!

      As for the timing, unfortunately it would not have made a difference as by 5:30pm Leiby was already in the hands of Levi Aron.

    2. s l says:

      this 2 hours wouldn’t make a big difference because even the police didn’t know in the begining about the car the boy was taken in. and it took enough time for this murder to do this!

    3. who's to blame|?? says:


      The people who made that rule the sharim have not made any changes to their policy concerning notification to police, nor has the day camp changed anything concerning their rules for allowing an 8 year old to walk home alone. Had the camp refused the parents request this boy would still be here, had the police been notified immediately the chances of finding him alive might have been better,……had the parents never allowed their son to force their hand in allowing him to walk home alone this boy would still be here…..shame on all those who in some form of authority or another failed to make those right decisions!!! and YES the monster Levi is NOT or should not go free and should be put away for the rest of his life.

  18. s l says:

    insanity? no way thats true. this murder knew what he was doing big time. because if he is a mental case and thats why he did it how did he go to work normal and was going around normal.? this mental issue would have been much more oubvious to do this. i think the voices he hears is that little boy crying asking him why did you kill me?

  19. Tia says:

    america is such a violent young nation, and it always has been actually. we have 85% of the world’s serial killers. killing and raping children here seems to be par for the course because child molesters and killers are locked away and then put right back into society. are they going to slap aron on the hand like they did Anthony? the world is watching. people get more upset over michael vick and his dogs than they do over the ghastly numbers of child abuse/ homicide in this nation. he is one of many. parents out there i suggest you fight for your children and watch out for them. the united states govt is obviously not that concerned about them

    1. i must admit is true!! says:

      what a shame but i must admit is true!!

  20. Maribel says:

    It appears tha Bloomberg is saying that this horrific murder was the work of God.

    Is he serious?

    1. Is God responsible? says:

      He probably meant God is in control, or God allowed it to happen or God saw what happened?

      I don’t know why when something so dreadful and tragic like this happens do we all immediately claim God is responsible!

      1. Rodin says:

        If you believe in all-powerful personal gods, you must accept that It allowed this to happen. You can’t have it both ways.

        “I don’t know why when something so dreadful and tragic like this happens do we all immediately claim God is responsible!” It’s called ‘escapism.’ Somebody has to be!

        Good without gods.

  21. Ryan says:

    He wasn’t insane working, driving a car, using his cell phone, making purchases, luring a little boy to his home, harrassing his ex-wife, paying his bills, etc. Now all of sudden he is pleading insanity out of convenience to free himself from responsibility for his actions. So sad insanity can be manipulated so easily.

  22. Bklyn mom says:

    You’re an idiot!

  23. angie says:

    he knows how to drive – why is he insane?

    1. Get over it he is insane says:

      My lord are you that dumb.This guy is as crazy as it comes either way jail or mental hospital he will be gone for at least 30 years.

  24. angie says:

    Insane means he doesn’t know right from wrong. He has a drivers license. He know when to stop on red and go on green. He is sane enough to dirve and sane enough to kil. Why don’t we have the death penalty? Insane people shouldn’t be in our society if they are dangerous to others.l

  25. IgnoranteElephante says:

    I have been critical of a community for their actions, not their faith. I am disturbed by the “don’t call the police” philosophy from within the community. The idea that a Rabbi has to be consulted before a crime is reported to the authorities is troubling. Problems arise when religious duty trumps duty to country and community, and this is compounded when it is lauded and praised by the government.

    With that said, I question not anyone’s religious tenets nor do I want mine questioned. Thus, if the Christians or the Jews find solace in G-d or the Bible (as I call it) then so be it. If they—or anyone else—think religion has some bearing on this crime, whether to understand its transpiring or to cope with it, why shouldn’t they do so? To compare this to voodoo is absurd and insulting. Religion is a personal belief.

    Much has been written about the constitution’s separation of religion and government—some of it by me—and rightfully so, but realize that only prevents the government from aligning itself with or establishing a national religion. It would also preclude a religious community from becoming a government. Another clause, lesser known, but in that same constitutional amendment, allows citizens to freely practice their religion in this country. Thus, to say that evocations of G-d should be behind closed doors is clearly not the state of the law in this country nor should it be.

    1. ktistielee says:


      1. THATS A LIE........ says:

        ktistielee thats alie…

      2. IgnoranteElephante says:

        Not according to them. Read this article in the Daily News about how the community says Rabbinical approval is needed before police are called.

        You should do your research before commenting.

      3. one of them says:

        I don’t know where you get that from, but I am from that community and there is no such “rule”. I have called the police a few times and I know many others who don’t hesitate to call if the situation needs it. I also always heard from people who had called the police about missing persons that the person has to be missing for 24 hours until they take action. Maybe that was only for adults.

    2. Rodin says:

      And I’ve posted THIS before:

      The Dutch of the Golden Age (XVII c.)who gave us oil paint, the art gallery, genre painting and still life, letter writing, the postal service, international trade, the stock market, the tulip and gin, also embraced religious tolerance, “freedom of religion” … and FROM it. While the they were free to believe or not in whatever got them through the night, it was to be done so privately. Banned were all outward manifestations and religious symbols, ergo, no proselytizing, no problem.

      The result, one of the greatest cultural watersheds in history, a time of scientists, philosophers, artists, writers, composers that became a refuge for ALL at a time ripe with religious persecution. Baruch Spinoza, the Portuguese Jewish philosopher, flourished there while working placidly as a lens grinder; Isaac Newton published his treatises there. Rembrandt, Van Dyck and Vermeer came out of that time free from religious obstruction and intolerance.

      1. IgnoranteElephante says:

        Are you calling for an amendment of our constitution which protects the free exercise of religion and the freedom of expression. Banning public display of religion is infringing on speech and religion.

        What is the connection between such a rule and what you call flourishing?

        The Dutch of the Golden Age also had sex with little boys. Will that help us flourish too?

      2. Rodin says:

        I’m not calling for anything. And, if you can’t understand my post and its relevance, you’re NOT WORTH discussing this with. We’ve been down this road before. I don’t waste my time with dogmatic fantacies. Don’t bother responding. I reject your ‘godly’ premises outright so there’s nothing to discuss.


    3. IgnoranteElephante says:

      We get this from your brethern in the community, some of whom were quoted in the News as saying Rabbis have to okay police involvement.

  26. iggy says:

    the only voices this thing hears is the voices of his lawyers

    1. Moishe Rosencrantz the Diamond Cutter says:

      Let us pray that this Hebrew’s soel is redeemed.

    2. ian the kosher deli owner says:

      Yes lets hope he can be saved.

    3. Leo the Banker says:

      I just want to put this behind us, so we can continue on our quest for world domination.

    4. Is it Kosher? says:

      Leo what r u talking about???

    5. Leo the Banker says:

      Kosher, if you are chosen like we are chosen, then you know exactly what I am talking about. If not, you will see.

  27. T. Thomas says:

    amazing, insanity, who thought of that one? the son of sam also said he heard voices from a Dog, but in the end admitted that it ws all a lie. well where does this creep hear his voices from?

    And how come no one of the idiot reportes asked the Lier for hire, what type of music he listens to?

    if he was able to hold down a job for 12 years, he aint insane, a moster yes but not insane. there were reports that he even prayed for the safe return of the kid, and might have even gone out searching, insane NO… this perv, PURE EVIL.

    the best thing might be to take him to the zoo, and feed him to the lions.

  28. Patricia says:

    This had NOTHING to do with … “GOD” leave the Voodoo worshipping out of it. Voodoo has it’s place and that’s behind closed doors in your home or place of worship. This was done by an individual exercising his free will to harm another human being plain and simple. Are we going to be persecuting “god” as well since some feel “he” had something to do with this? Oh I know! how about morning the childs death, prosecuting the murderer and leaving the lame God/Voodoo verbiage out of it?

    1. Rodin says:


  29. Marina Ios says:

    but, please, stop this “mental illness” thing excuse
    there are real illnesses, such as heart blocks, cancers, heart attacks, etc
    as long as the guy was functioning on a daily basis, as in: working, shopping, eating, bathing, etc, without any help, he looks pretty much ok to me.
    also, in cases like this, it should be an emergency death penalty, sorry, but is a waste of time and money to keep this beast in a hospital. he should be linched

  30. david says:

    I wonder if Bloomberg goes to every one’s house where someone committed a crime.

    Hope the Jew murderer gets the death penalty.

    1. Marina Ios says:

      unfortunately, here, nyc , we dont have the death penalty……it is a shame

      1. john says:

        Marina, there is capital punishment in New York. At least the last time I checked. Are they applying it? Well, that’s a different story. And I can see why they are not. It would be used unfairly against minorities. That’s the main reason. As long as it’s not going to be used unfairly, then I don’t think they are to use it. We still have a racist and prejudice justice system that is mostly white, that target defenseless, innocent minorities. What are your chances of walking if you are broke and get falsely accused? Probably zero. Defense attorneys don’t work for free the last time I checked. And you cannot rely on pubic defenders either. I have seen lots of minorities walk out of prison after more than 20 years, 30 years etc… for crimes they didn’t commit. Some, from death row. Thanks to DNA and other new technologies, (Innocense Project) and other people who work tirelessly to prove the innocence of those wrongly convicted. I bet those were the lucky ones. Some never had a chance because they got executed. Until the law can be applied evenly without regards to race, ethnicity, socioeconomic status, etc… then, they should just apply life sentences. Though it wil cost tax payers money, but better than killing one innocent person. My opinion of course.

      2. Diane D says:

        The death penalty in NY was REINSTATED in the ’70’s!

      3. The Facts says:

        New York’s death penalty was invalidated by a state court many years ago and the politicians in the legislature have received no political pressure to pass a new one which would meet the court’s scrutiny.

      4. IgnoranteElephante says:

        New York’s death penalty was held unconstitutional by the New York Court of Appeals in 2004.

        There is still the federal death penalty applicable in this state to federal cases. Should federal jurisdiction be found, say by bringing a kidnapped boy from New York to New Jersey and back to New York to get to Monsey in Rockland County (not an uncommon way of getting upstate) in interstate commerce–then Levi would face the needle.

    2. david needs a slap says:

      This was a little boy who was chopeed to pieces .This was one of the worst murders to date in new york.David are you really this stupid.

    3. IgnoranteElephante says:

      john, excellent little diatribe. Never let the facts get in the way of a rambling liberal talking point. The death penalty was stricken down as violative of the state constitution in 2004. Thus, we don’t have it. The grounds were largely speculative and had little to do with law or policy and nothing to do with race. It was just another decision by a liberal anti death penalty Court of Appeals in Albany.
      In this case, why evoke race? The murderer is an Orthodox Jew, hardly the minority that you feel would be persecuted by the death penalty.
      Defense lawyers are provided free to anyone who cannot afford them, and some of them are the best in the business.
      If you think the system is stacked up against minorities, you should saunter into a courtroom in Brooklyn or the Bronx, where day in and day out juries of all races and creeds let the seemingly guilty “walk”
      by ignoring some pretty convincing evidence. Prosecutors in those counties have trouble getting an indictment in front of a grand jury let alone a conviction. Police are routinely discredited and disbelieved for the simple fact that they are the police.
      If you still feel the system is racist, remember the biggest case acquittal in the face of overwhelming evidence in our lifetime was that of O.J. Simpson, a black man, who was acquitted in spite of DNA evidence.


      Ofcourse not only to his own alike, where was he and DA and commissioner Ray K when that little black child was murdered by a Jew who was immediately sneaked out of the country and sent to Israel for his protection, well? Any one cares to answer that one…

      1. The Facts says:

        The Crown Heights riot started after a traffic accident, not a murder

      2. NO FAVORITES PLEASE says:


      3. s l says:

        accident, is not killing

    5. s l says:

      it looks like you hate the jews

      1. NO FAVORITES PLEASE says:

        Si, Honestly I don’t hate the Jews, they are Gods children like any other race, they are humans, and have the same humanely needs like me, you or anyone else. I don’t believe in any form of elevating any particular race above others. I don’t believe the government should allow any form of discrimination against any particular race. I don’t believe anyone should be allowed to live above the rules, laws, of the country while most others have to follow them to the letter.

        So please stop with your “it sounds like you hate Jews” not mature, adult or even sensible reasoning.

  31. Bob Fowler says:

    Now for all of you who discount the wisdom of God, here is an opportunity for God’s Law to be applied. The Bible clearly states in Numbers 35:16:
    16 But if he smote him with an instrument of iron, so that he died, he is a murderer: the murderer shall surely be put to death.

    Forget about insanity, or Amnesty International, or an appeals process that will last through the century. They found PIECES of a boy in this man’s kitchen!!! Forget about the sterile wipe before the injection. Levi Aron just needs to be dead.




    2. Rodin says:

      Is that the same Babble that tells you to “turn the other cheek?”

      I believe there is no god and the Babble is fiction. End of argument. Invalid.

  32. Michael says:

    of course he is going insane. He’s not going to want to go to prison to find out what’s going to happen to him every night. insanity? don’t buy the act.

    1. what do you mean says:

      Michael , I’, never been to any prison, so I am confused as to what you mean?

  33. Natalie says:

    may his little angels spirit shine upon us and let the God be the judge for this horrible crime. Arrons soul will pay in hell for entirnity

    1. Rodin says:

      How repugnant! Why do I even bother?

  34. Jenn says:

    Jeez, of course he is insane. He hacked a human being up. You don’t do that unless you are insane. Now put him im solitary and throw away the key already.

    1. pat says:

      so i guess they haven’t arrested the parents yet. for what may we ask? for endangering the welfare of a child.that little 8 years old boy yes only 8 again 8 years old should have never walked all alone, never never never. im sorry the parents should be held some what accountable.

      1. CPS should take over now.. says:

        Pat, yes, unfortunately I feel the same, but because they’re Jews they haven’t. Ofcourse if it would have been a black or Hispanic they would have been charged with endangering the life of a child or neglect or something.

        I feel extremely sad for what the family must be going through all that guilt for allowing their 8 year old little boy walk home alone. But that is something that they will have to deal with for the rest of their life. Still the police could have charged them with endangering the life of a child, and had the department of child welfare CPS investigate the, …

        Heck I know of many many families who have been reported to NY CPS for stupid dumb silly stuff and had to be investigate…now this child tragedy does not merit CPS investigation?????

        What the outcome should be for them is a suspended sentence, because their guilt feeling will play in their hearts and minds for the rest of their life and I believe that’s enough punishment but none the less CPS should investigate them…

  35. LeslieS says:

    God? Bloomberg thinks God was involved in this? What nonsense.

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